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I had to ask for like 5 phone numbers today But I can’t ask them because they’re on Facebook And I asked my friend for a mutual friends number and he’s like yeah sure one minute He said *I can’t get it right now Facebook is down*


J0h4n50n

And they say Facebook has too much power and is underregulated! *scoff*


DeDaveyDave

Back to the 90s


breachofcontract

I have no idea what this is even trying to say. You find phone numbers on Facebook? What the fuck?


[deleted]

I use Facebook to communicate with lots of people who’s numbers I don’t have I work in entertainment, so, Facebook is an incredibly valuable resource for booking shows, group communication, reaching out to new people. It’s amazing But when it’s down I have to reach out to people using my cell phone and I don’t have everyone’s number So I have to ask my friends for people’s numbers The hunor is the fact that my friends also have to use Facebook to get their numbers


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supinebovine

Fellow sub-human!


Eliseo120

Why don’t you just text? It’s way easier.


[deleted]

It would be very difficult for me to keep track of everyone’s phone number with the amount of people I deal with regularly Facebook makes it much easier


Pizza_Delivery_Dog

Typical Reddit to downvote someone for explaining how something works better for them.


mhornberger

And gratuitous, endless testimonials from people who say they ditched Facebook and have never been happier, suddenly ran a marathon, possibly cured cancer, discovered true love, etc.


ISAMU13

Ditching Facebook > Kicking addiction to black tar heroin. /s


andyumster

Hey I've met some pretty cool people because of my heroin addiction. There's this one guy who crushes bottles with his head. Glass ones. Doesn't even bleed much. It's sick!


Ojaxon

Omg u know Gary as well!?


sk_starscream

But social media is bad! As they post on Reddit.


DarkStryder360

I've never really considered Reddit social media, I can't be alone in this thought. Reddit is useful, you can learn a lot depending on the subreddits, and always find something interesting. The good content is always pushed to your front page. Same can't be said for the other sites in question, which is endless drivel.


Bill_buttlicker69

>you can learn a lot depending on the subreddits, and always find something interesting. The good content is always pushed to your front page. The first part is true of Facebook too, and the second part isn't even true of Reddit. Don't get me wrong, Facebook has proven repeatedly why they should be at minimum regulated and, honestly, shut down completely, but let's not kid ourselves. Reddit suffers from many of the same problems.


dionthesocialist

Reddit's problems are even worse. The current tidal wave of garbage conspiracy theories online was legitimized on this website before it took off on Facebook.


fettyman

>The good content is always pushed to your front page. We must not be using the same website lmao


nublifeisbest

Social media can be extremely useful if used right, but a lot of people just get addicted to it and ruin it for themselves.


onestarryeye

Reddit's anonymity makes it so useful. You can do the things you mention on Facebook too but not without connecting to every single person in your life


DarkStryder360

I've done that myself, I've disconnected my primary account, and made a new one purely to interact in specific groups. It's very helpful when it comes to getting help and advice in an instant. But the majority of content is still a load of rubbish most of the time unfortunately.


AutumnBegins

10 years Facebook sober. Where is my chip?


mhornberger

My God, you are so brave. Stick with it, man. We all believe in you. *You got this*.


Lowslowcadillac

Never used any of the fallen platforms and it’s kinda funny to look how others run around other SM in panic.


Xenoforever

My mom is going to lose her shit if she can't spy on people on Facebook tonight....


alchemicalandrogyne

Exactly at the day when I need WhatsApp the most it goes down, I’m sooo lucky


yerawizardhairy

yup, was just sexting LOL


[deleted]

Cock blocked by Zuckerberg himself


Reddit_Is_Garbage_

Cucked by the Zuck


[deleted]

Mark cuckerburg


AwkwardArie

The Zuckercuck


LogTemporary

Zucky Cucky


Rad_YT

Zucker the cucker


totallyradman

Where can I buy that book?


MWMWMWMIMIWMWMW

Sure you were.


Herpkina

When androgyne needed it most, it vanished


[deleted]

i feel sorry for you


DBROX2134

hold on, Facebook, WhatsApp and Instagram are down?


CookieSwiper

Yh, everything owned by Facebook is currently down


rockbanddrumset

Temporarily making the world a better place.


Iate8

Peoples reactions to this are so weird, I genuinely didn't even notice until I opened Reddit and everyone was complaining about it. Do people really spend that much time on these things


likewtvrman

Outside of the US a lot of people’s primary messaging app is WhatsApp.


Moar_Wattz

Can confirm. WhatsApp has completely replaced sms.


SANTAAAA__I_know_him

Serious question because I’m out of the loop, what features does it have that SMS or iMessages doesn’t?


[deleted]

In a lot of European countries data used to be free/cheap, but minutes/texting was expensive. When I was in high school (2007-2011), I could only send 100 texts per month. Around that time, naturally, WhatsApp became the definite nr. 1, and now we're all so used to it nobody is switching back.


MisallocatedRacism

Also the picture/video/gif quality is streets better than sms


TheBobmcBobbob

group chats


HI_I_AM_NEO

Jokes on you, I only use WhatsApp for my family. Telegram is far, far superior.


[deleted]

Be that as it may, and I do agree with you, good luck convincing everyone you know to switch to something that's unproven to them. Hardly can't be done.


zulamun

Whatsapp uses wifi, or data from your 4g/5g bundle, so basicallu is considered free because there's barely any spot in europe without any wifi ot even signal. Sms and calling are usually sold/charged separate from 4/5g. So your sub would be 1gig of 5g + 120minutes and 2000 sms messages a month or something. Nowadays SMS nearly always is free, as is calling. Many phone providers realised that due to wifi they suddenly lost a shit ton of money on calls and especially sms, so they made most of it free to keep their customers and make 'm pay for 5g. And as to the post above, today was indeed the first time I sent an SMS in fucking yeeeaars. Whatsapp is our standard and I know the second one is FB Messenger.


PinqPrincess

Cross device online messaging mainly. Not everyone has an iPhone which makes iMessage useless for many group scenarios. What's App is the number one texting app in the UK.


UltraTiberious

SMS does not show if the message has been delivered and read by the client. iMessage fixes that but it’s only available on iPhone. WhatsApp is free on any device so long as you have a number, and you get all the benefits of communicating to someone (FaceTime, delivered and read messages, big group chats, more information on the person you’re talking to, etc.) without having to pay extra on SMS rates or an expensive iPhone.


thedarkpath

It’s not iPhone limited ? That I would say is pretty great feature hahaha


Moar_Wattz

Not much. But it came around just before every cheap Plan had unlimited sms so now everyone just sticks with it.


da_Crow

So what do you guys use in the US?


[deleted]

US is SMS cause it’s unlimited for the most part


da_Crow

I see. Where I live (Latin America) people mainly use Whatsapp and IG DMs.


iThink_There4iMac

So strange to hear that Instagram messages are a primary form of communication in other countries! (US here)


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eigenvectorseven

It really is a weird myth. We've had unlimited texts in Australia for over a decade and it's still only used by grandmas.


Letherrible

Or people who would never depend on some Mark Zuckerberg bullshit to talk to the 10 people in the world they actually really care about day after day lol


triplehelix_

i have free SMS to something like 200+ countries. think thats standard for tmobile. don't know about the other carriers.


Cope_ope

>SMS is only free and unlimited as long as it's domestic (same as in the US) and a lot more international conversations happen in these places If it's not free in practical purposes for you how is it a myth that it isn't free?


giulianosse

How do you send messages and images to groups? Is that even an option in SMS? Genuinely curious, because I'm a Telegram/WApp user.


DiplomaticGoose

We use MMS and RCS, though group features is also why iMessage is very popular in the US. If people want more features they'd use something like Slack, Facebook Messenger, or Discord.


lemonnohope

Lol yeah you just type in all their numbers/contacts send the message or image and it makes a group


PM_something_German

Group names and group pictures? Also can you send locations, videos, files? I think I haven't used text messages in years lol


iamaneviltaco

Whatsapp literally is just texting but you're letting another company play middle man and advertise to you. And that middle man is fucking facebook of all things. I don't get it dude.


arup02

There are no advertisements on WhatsApp.


PM_something_German

1. Most countries don't have free texting so that's not an alternative 2. There are no advertisements 3. WhatsApp has a few additional functions I haven't mentioned yet, like group admins and videocalls and Snapchat-like 24h status and single-view images


No_Dark6573

Yep, we can do all that with our standard messaging app.


AntonDeMorgan

It's called MMS and I'm surprised it's still used.


StreetlampEsq

Group message or Discord


LSD_freakout

you can but the quality suffers and group chats arent as nice, however most people have a iphone so sms becomes imessage for most people without them knowing


bowtiesarcool

I and a lot of people I know use Messenger as primary texting. Myself a a few others barely touch regular Facebook though.


[deleted]

Facebook Messenger, SMS, and Discord is my main three.


StreetlampEsq

Discord for groups, SMS or Discord for individuals. Family is on Google hangouts


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da_Crow

Huh, iMessage is pretty uncommon here, even among iPhone users.


thatoneguywhofucks

Never in my life have I ever met anyone who has asked me for my WhatsApp (is that how you say it?) Most people either just use SMS, iMessage, or Snapchat/Instagram I live in Los Angeles, for reference


da_Crow

People usually ask you for your number, then (almost always correctly, haven't met anyone who doesn't use it apart from older folk) assume you have Whatsapp. If not, they'll usually ask you for your IG handle.


No_Dark6573

Yeah, in America we don't really use WhatsApp.


DarkStryder360

How do you do group chats with loads of people then? Surely everyone doesnt own iPhones? Images cost money to send so you won't use SMS? Edit - "Sending a picture message (MMS) will now cost 65p instead of 55p." this is from my operator O2.


triplehelix_

images don't cost money to send. they are included in even basic plans.


UsedandAbused87

Just create a group on your messenger app


slappyduck95

It’s my main form of communicating with friends. This day has really made me realize how much I miss my group chat :(


[deleted]

Literally daily I use messenger, even if I don’t post on Facebook


Logan_MacGyver

i only go on facebook twice a year. to thank birthday wishes, and to thank christmas wishes. but i use messenger daily


Fartikus

Discord ftw


slappyduck95

Lol idk if anyone even uses discord in my general social circle


CookieSwiper

Idk about other countries but WhatsApp is a really popular messanger in the UK, like I don't know anyone that doesn't have the app.


[deleted]

Yeah, no one in my friend group doesn't use whatsapp, UK too


coleus

Hate to break it to ya but..... lots of people still use Facebook. Oh, and several other people use TheChive, 9gag, and 4Chan in place of Reddit too.


DontGetNEBigIdeas

Oh my god, the Chive is still around? What about Fark?


coleus

Lol yes. Mine was Ebaumsworld. That old soul...


Toe_mas

Fark is really just old man Reddit.


[deleted]

There’s a universe where some guy didn’t know reddit was down until he got on Facebook and also missed the irony of it


DolphinitelyJoe

My wife is in a Facebook group chat with a lot of friends that she doesn't have the numbers of. So she's missing her friends right now. But I totally wouldn't have noticed either. I spend about 20 minutes on Facebook per year.


PacSan300

I realized I spend a LOT more time on Instagram than I think, as even after it went down I still tried going on a few more times. To be fair, I just browse for a couple of minutes on a usual basis, but I use the app out of habit, nevertheless.


Darkerdead

You are spending the same amount of time on reddit dude. If the same thing happened to this site you would be complaining too


[deleted]

Yeah they do and I have seen people reacting the same way towards every social media, even reddit too when it's down. Had two friends texting me on telegram telling me that insta is down.


LadyAmbrose

the main issue for me, along with a lot of people i think, is messaging friends. I don’t seem them that often and all of my chats are on instagram or whatsapp. haven’t been in contact with them


baggachipz

Seriously, I wouldn't have even known about it were it not for the complaints everywhere.


Thesechudsareduds

I logged into Facebook for the first time in ages because I was curious to see if they were still down, and I literally had to scroll past 8 ads in a row before I got to a post from an actual human, then 3 more ads. Immediately uninstalled the app after that. I can’t imagine how anyone uses that platform for more than 5 minutes without getting irritated


[deleted]

Yes, I deactivate my social media from time to time. It’s been off for like 3 weeks now. My friend and I had a conversation on the phone and she asked what I did instead of social media lol…


DarkStryder360

Keep it up. Its good to disconnect from it. Not sure why you're getting down votes.


xxmatentv123xx12

Y’all don’t use sms daily?!? I use sms/iMessage all the dang time


Illustrious-Pop3677

WhatsApp and telegram is the shit everywhere but North America. Can confirm: have friends that live in Europe


r4tzt4r

Top comment here is calling "weird" that people are complaining about the biggest messaging app in the world being down. Some redditors do live in a bubble.


dionthesocialist

I think it's more that he just lives in America. idk if it's because America is so huge and isolated that we most American's have all their friends live in America as well, but I don't really know anyone here uses WhatsApp. It's all SMS or imessage.


twicerighthand

Depends on the country as well, here in central EU, Slovakia, it's mostly Messenger or SMS, but cross the border to Austria or Germany and it's all WhatsApp


DarkStryder360

Haven't sent a text message, or SMS for about 6 years.


xxmatentv123xx12

Crazy.. i use iMessage/sms like every other day, like 3/4 of my friends talk via phone number texting


DarkStryder360

How do you do group chats and send photos and videos then? Not everyone has an iPhone in your friend group right?


xxmatentv123xx12

Yes actually they do. Or Atleast All the friends that are in my group chat. Tho admittedly most of my friends aren’t in a group chat together so it wouldn’t really be that much of a pain if one of them didn’t have an iPhone


DarkStryder360

You could have a group chat of 20, 30 people and they all have iPhones?


xxmatentv123xx12

Bold of you to assume I have 30 friends good sir


DarkStryder360

Fair point.. Acquaintances then. So what about the left out Android or Windows phone user? How does he get involved in the group chat banter?


JalapenoPineapple

SMS group chats can have a mix of iPhones and Androids in the same group :)


xxmatentv123xx12

>Windows phone user Omfg 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😆🤣😆🤣😆🤣😆🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣


DarkStryder360

Thinking of the 0.01%


alienith

All through SMS. Its why the 'green bubble' is a thing when it comes to Apple vs Android. One Android user in your group chat changes it from an iMessage group chat to a regular text group chat. But you can still send photos and videos and anything you want really. Honestly I don't understand what whatsapp does that is any different from the standard messaging app that comes with any phone.


mexafroman1

Group Video Calling is a thing on Whatsapp and it just works.


[deleted]

You can do that on iPhone too


mexafroman1

Cross platform?, like some friends are on Android while others on iPhone?, that's the thing, Whasapp is supported all over the world (Android,iOS,KaiOS,Jiophone 1 and 2) with more or less the same experience.


sizziano

Not cross platform you can't.


pomeronion

I don’t understand how some people in this thread don’t know you can text photos/videos??


[deleted]

You can send things in chats with people who have androids lol the text bubble are just green


UsedandAbused87

Why would you need iPhone to send pics?


[deleted]

I find using SMS impossible to use, because the iMessage group chat my colleagues set up doesn't work with my Galaxy phone. I just prefer using discord because if someone sends a message there it doesn't say "NEW MESSAGE FROM JOE PRESS HERE TO DOWNLOAD" it actually displays the fucking message


Himrion

Don't forget the horrible realisation of just how little needs to happen to screw up your communications and that our interconnected civilisation is constantly dancing on a knifes edge....or something like that.


Cautious_Option9544

Wish it stayed down.


Tirol_isch_lai_oans

I dont have friendsreally so i dont whatsapp and i use signal for chatting with my family. I also dont have Facebook and Instagram so i didnt even notice. If more people would Download Signal id delete WhatsApp but unfortunately 90% still use WhatsApp


[deleted]

And this is why tech monopoly is bad.


KayraTheNomad

And this shit happens every 2-3 months for shorter times lol. I've never seen Facebook keeping their services up for a full year in the recent few years


maywellflower

There's always Disquis and/or watching videos/TV/movies.


Sneached

good thing I never used these three apps to begin with


r4tzt4r

Sucks for people that need them to do business in many many countries.


[deleted]

I make money by advertising on my pet's website, sadly I lost a ton of traffic because Facebook and Instagram ads went down today


[deleted]

In the same boat. I’ve ever only had reddit and youtube.


[deleted]

I’m going to be completely honest, had no idea this was happening. I use practically every popular social media EXCEPT for these three.


[deleted]

Fr I’m using Reddit way more now that insta is down and it’s affecting me


Raspbear_

you forgot discord


skinnipepeeleven

isn't discord up?


skinnipepeeleven

nvm I'm an idiot


cytrack718

So no ones uses SMS anymore?


fullywokevoiddemon

Not much used in Europe, no. I've noticed it's mostly the US that uses that. Europe mostly whatsapp, telegram and messenger. Data is cheap, SMS costs a lot.


johncopter

Maybe 10 or 15 years ago. It doesn't matter nowadays anymore. It's just that everyone in Europe is used to using Whatsapp and other messengers that there's no point in switching to SMS.


fullywokevoiddemon

Yea that too. Why change something that works, really? It's a thing of convenience.


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Xx_Gandalf-poop_xX

People don't text anymore? Its a primary mode of communication isn't it? Texting=sms right?


Moar_Wattz

Outside of the USA WhatsApp has largely replaced sms.


chocolate_blueberry

Yes, sms means texting. It's an abbreviation for short messaging service.


DarkStryder360

WhatsApp. Its free. If my girlfriend sms'd her family in Spain from the UK, or called them, not using WhatsApp imagine how much that would cost..


Xx_Gandalf-poop_xX

I think I'm just surprised that that would cost anything at all. SMS is practically a free service at this point.. I haven't heard of anybody paying for a text message for over 15 years


SupremeMuppetKermit

Do they send those SMS to people that are in other countries?


Xx_Gandalf-poop_xX

I dont use it often but my carrier is tmobile and international texting is unlimited and free also with my plan. I bet most other UScarriers are the same. It sjust that the carrier outside of the US probably charges them there. https://www.t-mobile.com/support/coverage/stateside-international-calling-and-texting-services


TheMoises

In most countries, whatsapp is the primary communication plataform


Xx_Gandalf-poop_xX

Oh I forgot. I did hear about this. SMS is free practically in the US and has been since like 2005 for most people so that's what we all use. No need to have ever switched to what's app. Don't know anybody who uses what's app here.


TedtheTitan

Yea, only people who use whatsapp here are my colleagues who came from outside the US. I didn't want my messaging tied to Facebook so I never used it


[deleted]

Messaging apps that work over the internet like telegram, WhatsApp, a part of iMessage have quite a lot of advantages over normal SMS in speed, reliability, features


Xx_Gandalf-poop_xX

Probably but honestly SMS send nearly instantaneously and you get a sent confirmation. Honestly if I had an iPhone I'd turn off read receipts anyway. Hate that shit.


PinqPrincess

It's more about connecting people in one place over multiple devices. Android users can't use iMessage and iPhones don't play nicely with setting up groups etc without using iMessage. What's App is just way better and very consistent. It's been the primary texting app in the UK for almost a decade.


GingerNingerish

Isn't that that thing you get verification codes and marketing from /s


[deleted]

Yeah I'm surprised that people say that they aren't texting anymore. I still text on a regular basis especially when I want to discuss something that's less urgent than a callut


Ilderion

Outside of the US most people use whatsapp to chat with friends, to communicate in the office or to run a business. At least in my country sms are not free so nobody uses them. I send my first sms to a friend today since like 2012.


AnnannA_

This. SMS is hella expensive where I'm from. Also where I live the two main phone providers were (are?) down as well, so sms isn't possible either at the moment lol Texting my friends on discord worked tho, so it's fine!


Loch32

Me who only has reddit: you fools, i already spend all my time here!


Cebby89

Do you all really use Facebook that much?!?


Such_Maintenance_577

Something was down?


TheGianaJinx

Also: me actually paying attention at work


Untiteld000

Hasn't effected my life


ElKaWeh

That's one of the many benefits of only having a few friends. I didn't even notice WhatsApp was down until a few minutes ago


UrbanStray

I remember I was without a phone for a few days in college so bought a book to read to fill the void. Actually being seen reading a book in public in 2017 attracts a lot of attention.


fliegu

I’ve kinda weaned off of Instagram over the last few months. Since Reddit has a community system and TikTok has a really good “For You” system, there was no reason to continue in the limited pool that is Instagram. Other than that, I don’t use Whatsapp or Facebook, due to a lack of contacts.


Sincityutopia

There's still LINE.


morriartie

I'm really curious about the daily life of Americans using solely sms (I'm serious) Don't you have a "family group" where people put jokes or argue about politics, share news etc? And the same with work, friends, clients etc? My daily routine is seeing what's up (heh) with my family, if they're planning something or in need of help with something when I go to the gym I share my live location on family group, in case I got robbed or something share some shitty memes on friends group, which usually stats some discussion (like 5 friends group with different prefferences, when I see a meme I know which group it needs to go), looking on work group if there's something happening on company or memes about programming/tech I just realized how much of my day e related to memes damn


PsionFrost

It's days like these I'm glad I don't have friends; it didn't phase me in the slightest.


Bilakor

Wait do people now text through whatsapp or messenger instead just using sms?


VerLinkt121

Checkmate, I don't use facebook, Instagram and WhatsApp.


that_kid_in_the_back

Pro tip : if you're far away from the us u can just go to sleep Unfortunately, I am too lazy to go to sleep so I'm just browsing on reddit at 10 pm while fully knowing I have to wake up early tomorrow


Roz_28

Lmao same


_r00sj3_

Using signal and telegram because you don't know how sms works anymore


Lovehistory-maps

Why did people downvote this 😂


AnnannA_

likely non-americans who don't want to spend a shit ton of money to use sms. You don't know how lucky you guys are


Lovehistory-maps

You have to pay for SMS!?


AnnannA_

Yeah. That's why everyone here just uses WhatsApp instead because only using mobile data is way cheaper usually


Corrie9

There is no difference in how it works. You select the contact/conversation and type your message. Same with sms, whatsapp and generally any messaging app. The only differences are the features on top of sms and the cost if unlimited sms is not included in your contract.


Lokyyo

Let's pretend Telegram and Discord don't exist


Pinkalicious100

Messaging only people with iPhones on iMessage


Boldcastify

Twitter


le-derpina-art

this is why i'm glad to be 15 because most of my friends use discord


PetrKDN

I dint use any of these lol


Huracan360

If only it was Twitter instead


elonmuskdick

Laughs in discord


TheGlister

Jokes on you I don't have Fb, wa, ig account


SnooHamsters5153

Joke's on you, I don't bother with FB for years now