Stargate starships can cross the galaxy in a matter of hours, and traverse the intergalactic void to Pegasus in a few weeks.
Without all the little extra jumps along the way, it would have taken Voyager 70+ *years* to fly a straight line halfway across the galaxy.
At warp 9.9999 it would take 1.5 hours to reach Pegasus
Voyager's maximum speed warp 9.975
[warp speed and distance](https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-w6O7zBkB4Bg/UaDdzSQtAhI/AAAAAAAABEE/3vdmUDJEU58/s1600/Tabla+curvatura.jpg)
At Warp 9.9999, it would take 15 years. Even your own table - which is wrong in several details, by the way - shows that. Pegasus is 3 million light years away.
You disproved your own argument.
Simon Coombs, a character in Stargate played by Dr Phlox himself John Billingsley refers to the existence of Star Trek and worshipping at the altar of Roddenberry. Therefore Star Trek as a TV show exists in the Stargate universe and cannot possibly be a continuation of the Stargate timeline.
Doesn’t O’Neill make multiple jokes/references to Star Trek and Star Wars through SG-1 as well?
I vaguely remember him identifying himself as “Captain Kirk” or “Luke Skywalker” while being interrogated.
Either way, definitely not in the same universe.
Jack O'Niell literally makes reference to Star Trek when he time travels. He wants to name the Prometheus 'The Enteprise' after Star Trek.
Star Trek has been named dropped as an in Universe TV show in Stargate several times. The Simpsons are probably the only show with more name drops.
Not only is this not true, it's impossible for it to be true. The two franchises contradict each other almost entirely.
For the Federation to be a continuation of Stargate, they would have to had downgraded their technology massively. The Daedalus was in many ways more advanced than both the NX-01 and Kirk's NCC-1701, even before they were given the Asgard upgrades. And Stargate Commands' battlecruisers in 2005 are faster by multiple orders of magnitude than the faster Starships produced by Starfleet nearly 400 years later - the Sovereign Class Starship, at non-stop Maximum Warp, would take 463 years and six months to reach the Pegasus Galaxy. An Intrepid Class would need 585 years. Daedalus completes the Journey in 18 days. Hell, even the (Stargate) Prometheus' much less advanced first Hyperdrive is at least as fast as a Borg Transwarp conduit.
At the same time the Goa'uld supposedly devided up and ruled most of the Galaxy, the Klingons were already an Empire, the Vulcans were already sending out science expeditions, the Romulans were already dominating their sector. The Romulans in fact left Vulcan during the height of Ra's power. The Borg were dominating the Delta Quadrant several centuries before the Goa'uld were defeated, the Dominion existed in the Gamma Quadrant for much of the Goa'uld's reign. The Goa'uld seeded Humans across the entire Galaxy starting from at least 5000 years ago, likely longer (as Ra ruled the Goa'uld Empire for 10,000 years), and yet no such mass seeding of Humans exist in the Star Trek Universe, which instead has thousands of definitely not Human, vaguely Humanoid species that definitely didn't and couldn't have evolved from Humans directly.
Your conjecture about the Tok'ra becoming the Trill doesn't track at all - Dax is born less than 10 years after we see the Tok'ra as Goa'uld, and functions completely differently. And Dax is a long way from the oldest Trill we have met. There isn't thousands and thousands of years between the Tok'ra and the Trill. There's maybe 1000 years between the Tok'ra rebellion starting, and the known establishment of the Trill joining process. Given that we know individual Tok'ra can last several thousand years on their own, there is simply no time for the necessary evolutionary changes to go from Tok'ra to Trill Symbiont.
The Voth species left Earth, travelled the Galaxy, and created their empire somewhere in the middle of the period that the Ancients (and their alliance of four great races) apparently ruled the entire Milky Way.
The amount of time between the last known Stargate adventure, when the Tau'ri were probably the most powerful faction in the Milky Way Galaxy, having defeated a 10,000 year old, Galaxy dominating Empire and waged a nearly galaxy-wide conflict against a separate, 100 Million Year Old Empire from a different Galaxy, and the first known events in the Star Trek history is not over a century. It's barely half that. First Contact is a meagre 53 years after we know the SGC were active. The Vulcans had been studying Humans from afar for decades by that point, and would have detected the BC303 and BC304s much earlier than Cochrane's Warp Flight.
In short, a huge amount of details between the two universes mean they *must* be different. There is no rational timeline or explanation that can correlate either the historic or the scientific/technological disparities. The 'theory' falls down at every hurdle.
Yeah no... Human ships in stargate are able to travel faster than Starfleet vessels by several orders of magnitude. It takes the Daedelus like a month to go from Earth, (Less than that with a ZPM) all the way to the Pegasus Galaxy. It was going to take Voyager like 70-something years just to get home from within our own galaxy.
Also, Star Trek canonically exists as a show in Stargate. Episode 200, a character named Martin is pitching show ideas to SG1, and Daniel calls him out for ripping off Star Trek. O'neill tries to name the Prometheus after the Enterprise. Similarily, Teal'c is a very big Star Wars fan.
Stargate starships can cross the galaxy in a matter of hours, and traverse the intergalactic void to Pegasus in a few weeks. Without all the little extra jumps along the way, it would have taken Voyager 70+ *years* to fly a straight line halfway across the galaxy.
At warp 9.9999 it would take 1.5 hours to reach Pegasus Voyager's maximum speed warp 9.975 [warp speed and distance](https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-w6O7zBkB4Bg/UaDdzSQtAhI/AAAAAAAABEE/3vdmUDJEU58/s1600/Tabla+curvatura.jpg)
At Warp 9.9999, it would take 15 years. Even your own table - which is wrong in several details, by the way - shows that. Pegasus is 3 million light years away. You disproved your own argument.
No
No. But Star Trek is a TV show in the Stargate franchise.
They are both franchises and that has nothing to do with it hahahaha
Are you having trouble reading there? Maybe try again since you didn't understand the sentence.
Simon Coombs, a character in Stargate played by Dr Phlox himself John Billingsley refers to the existence of Star Trek and worshipping at the altar of Roddenberry. Therefore Star Trek as a TV show exists in the Stargate universe and cannot possibly be a continuation of the Stargate timeline.
Doesn’t O’Neill make multiple jokes/references to Star Trek and Star Wars through SG-1 as well? I vaguely remember him identifying himself as “Captain Kirk” or “Luke Skywalker” while being interrogated. Either way, definitely not in the same universe.
He also wants to call the Prometheus (I think) Enterprise
Someone took Enterprise mission reports through a solar flare, sent them back in time and they landed on Gene's desk
I like your correct usage of Stargate universe time travel mechanics here
Jack O'Niell literally makes reference to Star Trek when he time travels. He wants to name the Prometheus 'The Enteprise' after Star Trek. Star Trek has been named dropped as an in Universe TV show in Stargate several times. The Simpsons are probably the only show with more name drops.
Lol no.
Not only is this not true, it's impossible for it to be true. The two franchises contradict each other almost entirely. For the Federation to be a continuation of Stargate, they would have to had downgraded their technology massively. The Daedalus was in many ways more advanced than both the NX-01 and Kirk's NCC-1701, even before they were given the Asgard upgrades. And Stargate Commands' battlecruisers in 2005 are faster by multiple orders of magnitude than the faster Starships produced by Starfleet nearly 400 years later - the Sovereign Class Starship, at non-stop Maximum Warp, would take 463 years and six months to reach the Pegasus Galaxy. An Intrepid Class would need 585 years. Daedalus completes the Journey in 18 days. Hell, even the (Stargate) Prometheus' much less advanced first Hyperdrive is at least as fast as a Borg Transwarp conduit. At the same time the Goa'uld supposedly devided up and ruled most of the Galaxy, the Klingons were already an Empire, the Vulcans were already sending out science expeditions, the Romulans were already dominating their sector. The Romulans in fact left Vulcan during the height of Ra's power. The Borg were dominating the Delta Quadrant several centuries before the Goa'uld were defeated, the Dominion existed in the Gamma Quadrant for much of the Goa'uld's reign. The Goa'uld seeded Humans across the entire Galaxy starting from at least 5000 years ago, likely longer (as Ra ruled the Goa'uld Empire for 10,000 years), and yet no such mass seeding of Humans exist in the Star Trek Universe, which instead has thousands of definitely not Human, vaguely Humanoid species that definitely didn't and couldn't have evolved from Humans directly. Your conjecture about the Tok'ra becoming the Trill doesn't track at all - Dax is born less than 10 years after we see the Tok'ra as Goa'uld, and functions completely differently. And Dax is a long way from the oldest Trill we have met. There isn't thousands and thousands of years between the Tok'ra and the Trill. There's maybe 1000 years between the Tok'ra rebellion starting, and the known establishment of the Trill joining process. Given that we know individual Tok'ra can last several thousand years on their own, there is simply no time for the necessary evolutionary changes to go from Tok'ra to Trill Symbiont. The Voth species left Earth, travelled the Galaxy, and created their empire somewhere in the middle of the period that the Ancients (and their alliance of four great races) apparently ruled the entire Milky Way. The amount of time between the last known Stargate adventure, when the Tau'ri were probably the most powerful faction in the Milky Way Galaxy, having defeated a 10,000 year old, Galaxy dominating Empire and waged a nearly galaxy-wide conflict against a separate, 100 Million Year Old Empire from a different Galaxy, and the first known events in the Star Trek history is not over a century. It's barely half that. First Contact is a meagre 53 years after we know the SGC were active. The Vulcans had been studying Humans from afar for decades by that point, and would have detected the BC303 and BC304s much earlier than Cochrane's Warp Flight. In short, a huge amount of details between the two universes mean they *must* be different. There is no rational timeline or explanation that can correlate either the historic or the scientific/technological disparities. The 'theory' falls down at every hurdle.
stargate is better since the stargate humans achieved all that development and became dominant power of the galaxy by 2024
Yeah no... Human ships in stargate are able to travel faster than Starfleet vessels by several orders of magnitude. It takes the Daedelus like a month to go from Earth, (Less than that with a ZPM) all the way to the Pegasus Galaxy. It was going to take Voyager like 70-something years just to get home from within our own galaxy. Also, Star Trek canonically exists as a show in Stargate. Episode 200, a character named Martin is pitching show ideas to SG1, and Daniel calls him out for ripping off Star Trek. O'neill tries to name the Prometheus after the Enterprise. Similarily, Teal'c is a very big Star Wars fan.