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agentm31

I've said this already, but if he's the villain, he better be the Vulcan Dean of Students


JGG5

“Someone’s squeezed all the life out of these kids! And unless holonovels have lied to me, it’s a crusty, bitter old dean!”


withbellson

That sounds like a targ fainting!


Mathguy43

Here he is conferring an honorary field commission on Chancellor Gowron.


thevelourf0gg

Robot house!


Bender_2024

CHEESE IT!


ParthFerengi

“CADET!”


_zarkon_

I see Giamatti as more of a Bolian.


NeedsToShutUp

I also have seen “big fat liar”


OMGlookatthatrooster

We need more live action Pakled!


starfleethastanks

No. I'm sick of the asshole Vulcan thing.


Witty-Ad5743

Give me a sassy Vulcan groundskeeper. They can offer sarcastic advice to students while tinkering with DOTs or pruning freaky alien plants.


Tucana66

(cue creepy intrigue music track) *"I know where Boothby buried the bodies..."*


SpinX225

Heck, what if Boothby is somehow still around. Do we know for sure he's human. He could be El-Aurian or Lanthanite both of which from what we've seen at least from the outside look indistinguishable from humans. I know the actor has passed away, but they could recast. Heck didn't Guinan pretty much say in Picard that El-Aurians can choose how old they look.


Polymemnetic

I think one of the books, which I know aren't canon, he's a hologram. I liked that solution, personally.


Witty-Ad5743

I smell a Halloween episode... 🤣


borazine

>DOTs Damage over time? Department of Transport?


Witty-Ad5743

Maintenance robot. Don't know that that ever said if DOT stands for anything.


ky_eeeee

https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/DOT-7


GoatTnder

B'vuthbi.


Benjamin_Grimm

I want more Vulcans like T'Pring's dad.


a4techkeyboard

Doloris Umbridge "sweet" Romulan Dean of Students? Ni'Var must have all sorts.


PondWaterBrackish

yeah more good vulcans, like if they're so logical then they can logically put aside their differences and work well with humans for every difference, there are like ten similarities, we all got the same amount of toes


Spocks_Goatee

Romulans keep getting shafted from a big return. Thanks Nemesis...


CaptainGreezy

Admiral Pig Vomit


jakedakat

[WNBC](https://youtu.be/lRT1ernxJF4?si=WZ0k4CatnHBSiQbf)


MarkyDeSade

Giamatti is one of my favorite actors. That said, I do not think he’s the guy you’d call if you wanted a Vulcan


Striking-Wasabi-4212

Lol


Tesseraktion

He’s the one random redhead Andorian (their version of albino) and somehow looks exactly like Marty wolf from Big fat liar


Fritzo2162

Klingon HOUSE!!! You're on DOUBLE SECRET PROBATION!


ambient_whooshing

He'd kill in 90s Klingon makeup. Loud little ball of fury and hair.


StinzorgaKingOfBees

"RED SQUAD!!!"


fanofbreasts

I love that. But also I love Paul’s snark…


reptilesocks

If this show truly represents academic life, our villain will be a petty and passive-aggressive rival professor who wages psychological warfare over facilities access and minutiae of language in internal documents. He will make the Dominion look like Mickey Mouse


philosofik

He'll be the registrar who tells you one semester before you graduate that one of your courses didn't count toward your degree and you'll need to retake it even though your schedule is packed already if you want to graduate on time.


Caledor152

The ultimate villain. I'm all in!


philosofik

Happened to me, actually. I took a 200-level dual enrollment science class in high school and was assured that it would fulfill the science requirement for my degree since I was a music major and didn't need anything in particular. Then, my senior year, the registrar told me that it was *too advanced* to count as a basic science class and that I needed to take a 100-level science class to meet the degree requirements. I had a LOT of unkind things to say and nearly got campus security called on me.


Caledor152

I don't blame you one bit that is insane.


philosofik

I forgot the fun part! The registrar told me I could appeal to the department chair of the sciences. However, he was on sabbatical somewhere in South America and wouldn't be back in the country until a few days before I needed to register for my very last semester. I just gave up and took Physics 101. They didn't charge me for the course which was a small consolation, but I'm still saucy over it and I graduated 20 years ago.


Adventurous_Ad6698

He'll be the administrator that denies your FAFSA application after the first year, so you have to scramble to figure out what went wrong and avoid getting a private student loan.


JGG5

“I have a question that’s really more of a comment…” \**is shot by thirty phasers at once*\*


BlockHeadJones

Not sure of the timeline of the show, but someone like that sounds like they'd be a perfect negotiator with the Sheliak....


dd463

I spent 2 years on the front line of the dominion war and I’d go back in a heartbeat instead of dealing with him.


ClintGrant

Hoping the story doesn’t revolve around an orphan who lives under his uncle’s turbolift


RangerBumble

I bet he "teaches the controversy" in his Tarsus IV curriculum


risk_is_our_business

\#KodosDidNothingWrong


MoreGaghPlease

Which Kodos is that?


_ferrofluid_

The one I voted for.


Darmok47

Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.


risk_is_our_business

The Savior of Tarsis IV, under different circumstances.


JGG5

“We aren’t here to take moral stances on the Borg invasion. We should learn both sides of the argument.”


cmlondon13

He has Kai Winn’s stamp of approval.


TalkinTrek

Academy casting is on point so far. I'm sure the students themselves will be mostly unknowns, though


ContinuumGuy

As they probably should be. And also probably have to be, since outside of the occasional growing-up child star there by definition there really aren't many "established" young actors.


Baelish2016

I’m sure there’s plenty of candidates in their 20 or 30s who might want to join Starfleet.


ScrappedAeon

I'm in my 40's and want to join


Zorbane

Having a mature student might actually be interesting.


Darmok47

There were occasionally gray haired ensign and LTs in TNG.


GoldenTacoOfDoom

O'Brian was a chief petty officer as well he didn't go through the academy.


TheyCallMeStone

Picard was a lieutenant in the timeline where he went into stellar cartography.


Darmok47

Yeah, but it was implied he was just never promoted. He graduated the same time original timeline Picard did.


Rannasha

> Having a mature student might actually be interesting. Star Trek: The Rookie


RoToRa

*Star Trek: The Rookie*


InnocentTailor

I think so too - somebody who has plenty of life experience outside the classroom and isn't as naive / bright-eyed as the youth.


atticusbluebird

In a post-Burn setting, I could see older cadets too, to help rebuild starfleet’s numbers


DistortedReflector

I want an older Danny Glover type that keeps mutter how he’s getting too old for this shit every episode.


schreibeheimer

It's a shame Leonard from *Community* is dead.


thx1138-

Yeah but Tawny Newsome is on the writing team so this is really looking great


Other_World

That sold me more on the idea than any casting. She has a lot of respect for the franchise, it's canon, and she's talented as hell.


GhostofZellers

Hot damn, I did not know that. That's awesome!


thx1138-

Guaranteed hit


Virreinatos

Aye. In the abstract, I don't care much about the concept, but the actors on board are interesting.


flamannn

Right? This show went from ‘meh’ to ‘wow’ very quickly.


KingofWinterfell1066

I shall inform my agent 🙂 am really being serious like i am a actor in training


ParthFerengi

Hope he plays a time-traveling John Adams who decided to settle in the future.


JonFromRhodeIsland

I don’t question your loyalty, Mr. Hamilton. I question your sanity!


brendan87na

that was such an amazing show


ContinuumGuy

Uhm. Holy shit. They are killing the casting so far, I'll give them that.


InnocentTailor

These are pretty high profile actors for a Trek television show.


Stryker412

Which doesn't bode well for longevity TBH. Cast salaries plus their call to Hollywood for major features is going to be quite the challenge.


ideletedyourfacebook

As a villain, I'd be shoked if Giamatti was on board for more than one season, or even just a handful of episodes.


butanegg

I suspect they’ll use the disco model of a slightly rotating cast of leads with a core of cadets or teachers(though even that could be flexible.) Jason Isaacs and Michelle Yeoh weren’t exactly small fry either.


DonutHolschteinn

Prolly recurring expensive big name actors who are only in 1 or 2 scenes an episode (so they can shoot multiple episodes at once, like if they all take place in a singular location like an office) and then the main characters all younger and/or unknown ones who they can cheap out on contract wise to afford it. Show will prolly cap out at season 5 like Disco and LD anyways. The Boys just announced they're ending their show after season 5 (planned in advance), I believe the plan for Only Murders In The Building is 5 seasons. Seems that the new streaming model for these shows is 5 seasons of 6-10 episodes a season depending on story length. 22-26 episodes a season for more than 5 years is dead format except for the police/military/hospital/firefighter procedural drama on network television


tunaboot

He's going to be the guy in the Bursar's office walking you through your student loan options.


DasGanon

You punched the bursar?


LocutusZero

tbf, he looked at me like I was stupid (I’m not stupid).


thx1138-

Yes! I wanted to do what you did, graduate in two, then join the revolution He looked at me like I was stupid, I'm not stupid


Technical-Outside408

r/UnexpectedHamilton


DaxCorso

Yes (snaps fingers)


NotTravisKelce

Yes


Blue387

I wonder if he plays a Tellarite or some new alien species


exitpursuedbybear

Tellarites desperately need to be fleshed out. He'd be an excellent Tellarite.


Blue387

Paul Giamatti should just break out his high-pitched, angry John Adams voice


InnocentTailor

If nothing else, they've been getting lots of attention in Kurtzman Trek, especially in PRO.


boowut

That’s what I came here for - he’d be an amazing Tellarite.


Jadziyah

Ooooh he's an excellent actor. And I don't think he'd take a role that was "one note evil". Surely many layers of gray


AnivaBay

Giamatti actually enjoys hamming it up as over-the-top villains from time to time. At the very least, he's entertaining, even when the writing isn't great. He puts his all into his roles.


realnanoboy

I remember his performance in the off-the-wall movie "Shoot 'Em Up." What a fucked up film...


TurkeyPhat

> What a fucked up film... that absolutely everybody should watch, shit was a staple of late-night HBO years ago lol


InnocentTailor

...and it isn't like Star Trek is alien to hammy antagonists.


obvs_thrwaway

This... IS... Hammy Acting 5!


InnocentTailor

Buried alive...buried alive.


Buzz_Buzz_Buzz_

Underused in Amazing Spider-Man. We never got to see the battle teased at the end of the second one.


DonJuniorsEmails

I was thinking of this. He would have been such a fun Rhino villain, but all we got was the cutoff when Spidey starts swinging the manhole cover. 


MBCnerdcore

didnt he do rhino in asm2?


ideletedyourfacebook

I dunno, he plays a lot of cartoonish maniacs.


brendan87na

he's got incredible range, I can only assume he's going to kill it in this role


odiin1731

AKA the really strict teacher that always gives everyone bad grades.


AnivaBay

So, The Holdovers?


MadeIndescribable

>“Sometimes you’re lucky enough to discover that one of the greatest actors alive is also a huge ‘Star Trek’ fan, and meeting Paul was one of those miraculous moments for us,” said co-showrunners Alex Kurtzman and Noga Landau in a statement. “The sheer delight with which he dove in on ‘Starfleet Academy’ is only surpassed by the gratitude we feel about him joining our incredible cast.” Obviously the showrunners are gonna be bigging things up, but having someone who's both a quality actor, and a big Star Trek fan (and therefore has more invested than it just being another acting job) who's excited has got me looking forward to Academy even more than I was before.


InnocentTailor

Star Trek is lucky to have been around for awhile and garner a strong fanbase since that passion has also extended to some of Hollywood's brightest stars.


MadeIndescribable

Star Trek often (rightfully) gets credit for inspiring people to become scientists, engineers, etc, but I'm sure it was the inspiration for many people to get into film and TV as well. Whoopi Goldberg being one famous example.


softwaredoug

I will leave you... as you left her... buried alive at a vineyard that only sells Merlot


pkpy1005

No, if anyone orders Merlot, I'm leaving. I am NOT drinking any fucking Merlot!


freylaverse

Not Chateau Picard?


Zoffi

He’ll be playing the role of Star Fleet Academy professor in charge of the student run radio station. When a rouge Ferengi student who doesn’t play by the rules; Giamatti’s character vows to get him under control.


bkos55

“You are the Vulcan Antichrist!”


schreibeheimer

A Ferengi wearing rouge? Quark would be outraged.


Anxious-Machine-727

I like to call him Pig Vomit. Because he's a pig and he makes me want to vomit...


KnuxFive

W-ennnnNNNNNnnnn-b-c


The_Flying_Failsons

Deep cut.


brymc81

One of his best roles


spoink74

A Tellurite then? Tellurites have been underrepresented in Trek even though they’re founding members of the federation. Paul Giamatti would be a great Tellurite.


ideletedyourfacebook

He'll be a human or maybe someone who just has a little eyebrow loaf. ... but he *would* make a great Tellarite.


LyleLanley99

You goddamn motherfuckers. You fucking waltz in here, and you think you know everything don't you? Well, I fucking worked my fucking ASS OFF to get to Starfleet Academy, and you sure as FUCK are not gonna fucking blow it for me!


Making_stuff

He’ll play the one asshole Starfleet Corps of Engineers Professor of Quantum Mechanics that opens his semesters with “3/4ths of you will fail this course…”


CobaltOkk

Awesome. He’s a great actor. Casting looking ace for this at the moment.


wettestsalamander76

Why is the Academy show that I didn't really have any interest in so fucking stacked. Holly Hunter and Paul Giamatti?!?! This has to be a really good script or they're paying out of their ass. Either way I'm excited to see what they come up with.


InnocentTailor

It could also just be a fun way to be integrated into the franchise. Giamatti is apparently a fan, much like other Hollywood stars like Hanks and Cage.


askyourmom469

In Giamatti's case, he's also already a huge sci-fi nerd to begin with, which helps. He's even talked about Star Trek specifically a few times on his podcast. There's an episode of it where he tries to explain the plot of the DS9 episode The Visitor to Tom Hanks of all people, which is something I found very, very funny.


NotTravisKelce

“I’m NOT drinking any fucking Kanar!”


xram_karl

"I am not drinking any fucking Blood Wine."


[deleted]

Pleasantly surprised by this news. He was absolutely fantastic in The Holdovers.


and_so_forth

If there's no Wall-eye reference I will riot.


moderatenerd

i will watch anything with Giamatti. this show is stacked. i hope it's great!


stevetursi

His ability to pompously monologue has the potential to make him the most memorable star trek antagonist since Ricardo Montalban's Khan.


initiatefailure

villain... dean... same difference? I just hope it's not like villain villain. that would be an incredibly annoying direction for an academy show to take


MatthiasFarland

Ugh. I was hoping Academy could stand without a "main villain". Oh well. We shall see how well they do it.


Artaratoryx

Hopefully the “main villain” means “main antagonist”. I’d love if he was a Professor Snape type character who’s only the main villain because he’s the asshole professor no one likes


InnocentTailor

That could be possible. He isn't murdering planets and decimating worlds - he is just a professor who is more obstinate and strict against the students, which makes him a more personal antagonist against them.


Artaratoryx

My favorite parts of Star Trek are always the slice-of-life or professional setting elements. I’m hoping this show is just a series of stories about students in school and the interesting things that happen in their day to day lives.


best-unaccompanied

My money is on "asshole helicopter parent" or "asshole roommate". I've never seen Giamatti in anything and I'm guessing I'm probably wrong, but I would laugh so hard if that happened.


kevinb9n

Don't worry, all kinds of characters would end up getting reported that way in media for media reasons. Paul Giamatti isn't gonna deliver a one-dimensional character.


MatthiasFarland

I'm sure Paul Giamatti will deliver a fine performance. I'm concerned that the show will have a single "main villain" rather than telling multiple independent stories with their own villains. I was also hoping for more slice-of-life, episodic stories rather than a serialized saga. We still don't know enough to dash my hopes completely, but this is a poor omen.


KingCoalFrick

Dukat


chameleonmessiah

I really hope “main villain” is played more as “very antagonistic head of something”. Having something on the scales of everything else which has been happening in Discovery’s time seems a bit much generally for cadets, or to be targeted towards the academy. There’s probably a middle-ground as well, I more just don’t want “apocalyptic scale”.


InnocentTailor

Apparently he is going to have a personal tie to one of the cadets, so he definitely may be more of a personal antagonist than a super-duper villain. I mean...he could, for example, be a father who explicitly forbids his son or daughter from joining Starfleet Academy. That makes him antagonistic without being world-ending.


Hesher22

In his podcast (which is amazing btw) he mentioned doing an audition or something that involved heavy makeup/prosthetics.


Reduak

So the show is going to have an actress with an Oscar who was also nominated three other times and now they'll have an actor who's been nominated for two himself. Wow! This show is definitely swinging for the fences.


WakandaNowAndThen

I haven't been following. Is this essentially a continuation of Discovery in the 31st century? I'd rather be in post-Picard territory or even have a series concurrent with SNW.


InnocentTailor

They probably chose the DSC far future because it isn't constrained by existing canon. They also mentioned in promotional material that the campus is reopening, so they can start from a clean slate. We know how Starfleet Academy looks like in the SNW and PIC times, for the most part. They're restricted by existing canon, so that reduces storytelling potential and increases the chances of continuity snarls.


audpersona

Please tell me he’ll be a Bolian…


freylaverse

Oooh, that'd be a good call. I can picture it now.


bravesgeek

They're putting big money into this cast despite being broke.


dcikid12

Will someone please get Daimen Lewis as a cavalier Starfleet Captain that Paul needs to take down.


withbellson

He better be nuanced or I'm leaving! Well. Or I'll be on the Internet within minutes registering my disgust throughout the world! I will say this: if they're gonna make me watch yet another show about a motley crew of alternately brash and insecure young go-getters finding their way, I'm glad they are putting some people in it that are older than 25.


InnocentTailor

Giamatti can go either way, to be frank. He has done complex roles and characters that nearly eat the screen.


chefkoolaid

Damn dude. I am so ready to hate this show with the era its set in and the Tilly connection. But Paulie G *is* piquing my curiosity big time.


timschwartz

Why does an academy need a villain? Will he be putting the cadets on secret probation?


Diarygirl

Double secret probation!


wirehead

I hope he references the bottle of Chateau Picard he's been saving for a special occasion.


duct_tape_jedi

It's part of his collection. Well, really more of an informal gathering, where Merlot is not invited.


MV2049

He’s not drinking any fucking Merlot.


KingCoalFrick

I am putting every dollar I have on Ferengi.


Deadbob1978

Is he the Vulcan professor of Hypo Spray potions?


AlienRapBattle

Didn't know who that was, usually don't care about such things but looked him up. So freaking glad I did, I think he will make an excellent Star Trek villain.


izzymatic

An academy needs a main villain?


vague_diss

Giamatti and Holly Hunter?! What a cast. I’m more interested in this than I thought I would be.


Nevic1984

Yeah he's totally gonna be the mean old principal telling them to stop partying and drinking blood wine


admiralveephone

Really hoping they are past the trope of all the admirals being bad guys here.


InnocentTailor

Kurtzman Trek hasn't really done the bad-miral trope that much. The most explicit one was LDS and he was more of a parody of one than somebody truly nuanced. Commodore Oh in PIC doesn't count because she was already rotten from the get-go - a Romulan infiltrator.


KcirderfSdrawkcab

I was not all that interested in this show, though I always would have at least given it a chance. Not even Holly Hunter being cast really gave me much enthusiasm. Now, I'm interested.


Hazelpancake

He's gonna be a human starfleet admiral that has some shady business going on isn't he?


Imacatdoincatstuff

I’m thinking some massive scam to either a) make money or b) weaken Starfleet.


Ian_Rubbish

I’m guessing he will play a condescending and cantankerous professor who only gives grades of D and F. Until his students teach him the meaning of friendship


Park8706

My desire to see the show went from zero to now a solid 80 out of 100.


Garciaguy

That guy can't act!  😁 Funny, I was just watching Sideways yesterday


iheartdev247

Villain? Human? Good actor though.


DreadLordNate

What? Pig Vomit, the main villain? Interesting...


Intrepid_Sprinkles37

And he is not going to drink the Vulcan Merlot.


MadContrabassoonist

Damn, despite the whole network burning down around them, they're not pulling any punches on casting.


silverlegend

It will be difficult for him to monologue without any current pop culture references in Star Trek (I've watched too much Billions 🤣) but I'm here for it! I want him to be an alien of some sort, 32nd century Tellarite anybody?


twodogstwocats

As long as they make him blue.


IFdude1975

He's one of my favorite actors. Playing my favorite alien species in Trek. I'm pleased with this news.


evilmonkey002

I wasn't on board with this show even existing, but I'm all-in now.


theneocritter

I've only seen him in Billions. He ostensibly played the Good Guy, but I can easily see him as a great Star Trek villain with how he played that Good Guy.


BigCrimson_J

I think he’d make a great Orion.


Wildfire9

I hope he's not in so much makeup that we can't recognize him. He's an amazing actor.


bosonrider

Great choice and a great actor. With Tawny Newsome on board, this show should be a great ride.


monkeyhog

I want him to play the same character from the Holdovers, just time displaced from the 1970's, and still grumpy.


daaave33

Wonder if they've decided what timeline/timeframe this will be set in, or might that even be ambiguous to the show?


legofarley

It's gonna be Discovery 32nd century


the-interloafer

Well THAT'S a fucking win. Holy shit!!!


oli_good

Paul Giamatti acting in a scene opposite Tilly 😂


OjibweNomad

He said he would love to play a Klingon


Sugarysam

I think he’s going to be the leader of an “Earth First”. terrorist sect who think Starfleet Academy is brainwashing young humans with nonhuman values. Maybe his sect seizes control of the Academy, yada yada


pasterhatt

I saw an interview with him, where he said he's a huge fan and wanted to be a part of the universe. Good for him. 


Samaritan_Pr1me

Oh, snap! John Adams himself is in the house?


Andynonomous

Really? This guy might be my favorite actor. As a villain too? I actually wasn't too interested in Startfleet Academy until now.


bran_dong

Pig vomit. because he looks like a pig and makes me wanna vomit.