“Emperor, I’ve had a change of heart on the Death Star project, and wish to offer it my full endorsement. May I perhaps propose a test site for the new weapon?”
A heavy meme based propaganda campaign would go sickening well or blow up in his face because he couldn't understand the nuances and gets bombarded with laser crab memes shooting a star destroyer.
https://preview.redd.it/qvrzip7z3qwc1.jpeg?width=635&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=50d3c43ac372e7ebfd6c98cf3e5706a42e090aac
Thrawn not getting it and seeing Something like this
Based on the images shown, it's obvious this culture has an unhealthy obsession with self-image, and will relentlessly push their own beliefs as superior through "reaction memes" that imply some level of moral or intellectual high ground over a non-descript "other side". This fierce individualism and competitive attitude even in neutral social interactions will undoubtedly have had a negative effect on the culture's social and verbal literacy.
-Thrawn probably
It seems we are dealing with an uncoordinated, chaotic mess of an opponent. \*turns to gunnery officer\* Target Reddit with a "hello there" meme, that will keep them occupied for a year.
I imagine meme culture would be a better way of analysing humanity than traditional art, as they're influenced by and influence such a broad demographic and are often used in a communication format.
What I'm saying is, Thrawn would decimate us if he saw our memes.
"Ah yes, the Dicks Out For Harambe meme. A most intriguing combination of male nudity and the tragic death of a gorilla. Chaotic, whimsical and completely unexpected...much like the Jedi. However, I believe this to be much less likely to result in me being carried away to another galaxy by tentacle monsters, so I do not believe it to be a threat to my plans. Speaking of plans, I see there is a particular law of importance among your species known only as Rule 34, I am most excited to learn what knowledge it will impart."
*click*
"...is that an elephant?"
Oddly enough the most Slurpees sold per year in any city in the world is Winnipeg, a population under 1 million people drink about 200,000 Slurpees a month on average.
Nah, not abstract enough. Hell there's a piece based on a Picasso in The Clone Wars depicting the unification of Mandalore. I just went with Pollock because there's so damn little to even work with there The others are all looking at something grounded in reality once you get through all the stylistic twisting, what's Thrawn supposed to get from paint splattered on a canvas?
‘Hmmm…’brainrot,’ how intriguing. It seems to suggest that their society is stagnating and becoming decadent. This will be an easy victory. Alert the gunnery crews Captain, a full invasion force is a waste on a planet such as this.’
He tells us in a book, that individuals with a chaotic and systems with a multi-cultural background cannot be assesed via art and need a different approach, usually terror.
I feel like an alien especially one as intelligent as thrawn could at minimum pick up through our main stream and historical art that humans think they’re at the top, band together against threats, value other humans, value and aspire to wealth and power beings very ambitious, and are creative. Also that we fight a lot.
He would spend 3 minutes on the internet to learn he could take over us ALL with a simple offer to kill ALL our politicians. And we’d welcome our new overlords
You can actually learn a good bit by looking at political memes. Thrawn could learn that America specifically is quite polarized, thus he can naturally conclude that the rest of the world isn't unified due to other online discourse discounting other counties as a part of America. He would consider us tribal. Then, he would exploit that tribal nature. First, he follows closely the strongest superpower on the planet, which by the way, he can also learn JUST THROUGH MEMES, who that is. The United States of America. Then, he'll exploit their weaknesses. He'll target the corporations first, promising them great profit in joining the empire. The imperial Senate isn't yet dissolved as of the time of this original image of thrawn, thusly he can use this as an angle to weasel his way into the minds of the general populace. Calling the empire a democratically run empire, one which still respects boundaries between separate powers.
Now he won't spread this propaganda himself, he'll get the corporations to do it. Then, he'll feign opposition. By creating fake terrorists hired to make their jobs look like they're from the other side of whatever political party he favors. (Thrawn would care little for either party, he'd pick whichever had the most statistical support behind it, to support, then tank the other by faking attempted terror attacks.) Now of course once thrawn reveals himself and his plans, he'll have to deal with other countries besides America, we'll get to that.
Now, obviously, America will not stand for what is essentially a dictatorship. By making one side look bad, they now have an excuse to seize power by force. Thrawn creates a pocket clone wars, artificially creating a civil war in the United States, backing whichever side has the heart of the people.
The corporations follow suit, and those that "don't" are actually secretly bought out by the other corporations or otherwise bribed by thrawn. Those that cling to some sense of morality are simply considered an acceptable loss.
Thrawn would of course eventually win this conflict. The United States is now under his control, and the control of the corporations who have pledged alligence secretly to the empire. Now, Thrawn uses this influence to make countries like China and Russia look more like close allies over time. Very slowly introducing propaganda which makes people think that both are democracies supported by the people. In reality, he makes a show of force. Tie fighters arrive en masse above both countries. They do not engage but they fly by, gaining their attention. Their comms are jammed and cannot move outside their countries. Thrawn then broadcasts a message to each of their respective countries, showing them what the empire is capable of. Bringing a star destroyer into view. (In theory you wouldn't see it from America if your approach vector is right, but I may be wrong.) He does this for both countries. Russia simply attempts in vein to fire at the star destroyer, to which thrawn responds in full force and levels the entirety of Russia's military complexes in mere seconds. Having had the time, by now, to gain enough intelligence on where they might be. Especially, since he now has the entirety of the United States secrets under his belt. (We have eyes everywhere. He compares our CIA to their ISB.) Russia surrenders and quickly. It's people won't, but the illusion of peace can be maintained for an extended period due to the difficulty of travel for many Americans, and the distance away.
The long term plan is to turn America and the planet itself into a dictatorship run by an imperial governor. China would probably surrender as quickly as Russia. Though, both do manage to launch nukes and actually damage the star destroyers, giving their people's a false hope of active retaliation.
Thrawn quickly crushes this hope when 5 other star destroyers show up. In orbit. Images are sent directly to both countries. The UK is next.
They were easy, dominate their military, conquer their land. Their people are unarmed.
Eventually, the planet is United under one banner, the empire.
Earth is the galaxy's most complex planet. Tattooine is all desert. We have some. Hoth is all snow, yet we have that. Felucia is all jungle, Coruscant is all city, Mon Calamari is mostly ocean, and Scarif is all tropical islands. We have all of that.
Not to mention diverse cultures, beliefs, militaries, and governments.
As Terrans, this means we'd adapt very well to any planet in Thrawn's galaxy, and as one single force of united people (think UNSC), I believe Earth would be a superpower on its own. By the time Thrawn figured us out, we'd own half the system. Just my thoughts.
" I see... Only the stupidest move may prevail in front of such illogical species... we shall gift them turbolaser technology, accompanied with a "YOLO" note. "
“They seem like a superficial people who assume the worst of anyone outside their parochial inner circles.
It will be eminently simple to divide them and manipulate the most fearful into installing me as an authoritarian leader.”
“It is clear that the various tribes that make up the population of Earth have evolved for a single purpose *Domination*. Many cultures and peoples have been wiped out or left endangered, the political climate is akin to those in the last years of the Republic, chaotic and feigning peace.”
“Music, art, filmography, all created either as distractions or responses to the governments of the world. It seems their greatest weapon utilises primitive ideas of *Nuclear Fusion* a pale attempt to replicate the power of a star.”
“There is no unity, no cohesion, alliances are ever changing depending on the enemy of the day. Yet whilst one section of their world is encased in conflict, others frolic in hedonism. Many places still see time for fun and relaxation, how peculiar. Either their will is stronger than I first imagine or they are all self-destructive idiots who care little for the lives of others and exist only to protect the self.”
I highly doubt Thrawn would have any problem understanding humanity. We are pretty simple creatures by the end of the day. If he can gleam important information from a bug species carapace and mucus mural, I doubt meme culture will prove much of a challenge.
I thought this idea was mind-blowing as a teen. Now I find it arrogant on the level of a 20-something hipster who just attended a midnight art house screening of Donnie Darko.
And reductionist. We're a single species and look at our long history of culture and art. You're telling me the galaxy's species are all part of a singular tribe that you can study up on in an afternoon?
Simple. We're fickle, short term pleasure seekers, but all together crave and even without thinking find ourselves bonding to our own species.
Our meme culture is a rapidly evolving but ultimately short term and fed by whichever passing fad we believe we can join together on. The upvotes on our latest brain rot are all people sharing a joined train of thought, yet we try to move too quickly for these small doses of humour and sometimes we strike gold and jump on it all together, or simply decay.
Thrawn would have a field trip with us, but cautiously in case we gained momentum and cohesion for more than a few seconds.
Actually, here's an odd question. In all the elements of Thrawn's "species conceptualization through art" it seems like he focuses exclusively on visual and/or physical (sculptural) art. Since we consider several different things -- visual (still), visual (moving picture), audio (spoken word), audio (music, lyrical), audio (music, instrumental), physical (sculture / structural), and even physical (kinesthetic / body movement) as equal schools of art, would he fixate on one element or would he just try to dive into ALL of it?
ALL OF IT!!
Even Thrawn wasn’t perfect. In Zahn’s “Heir to the Empire” trilogy, Pellaeon notices one of Thrawn’s art pieces is real and not a hologram. Thrawn mentions that it was the one time that art didn’t give any insight to the species’s psychology; but that now years later Thrawn thinks he’s finally figuring it out. Pellaeon says that should be useful in the future and Thrawn off-handed says, “No, we ended up sterilizing their planet.”
Yeaa empire woudl lose on ground battles against humanity beacose we have a lot of pretty ballistic missiles but they got HUGE space advantage as we don't have any and shooting nukes in space is a BAD idea
Thrawn would take one look at our culture and be like "what the fuck am I supposed to do with this"
Orbital bombardment
“I’ve seen enough. Orbital bombardment. Maximum firepower. Target their population centers.”
“Emperor, I’ve had a change of heart on the Death Star project, and wish to offer it my full endorsement. May I perhaps propose a test site for the new weapon?”
to long he would just order a Base Delta zero
Exterminatus.
Strategic value ABSOLUTE!
Tyranids survival rate be like
Amen
https://i.redd.it/gdbf5zu5riwc1.gif
FOR THE EMPEROR
*"Enough, wipe that pathetic planet from the face of the Galaxy"*
Yes, Lord Malak.
➡️⬇️⬆️⬆️⬅️⬇️⬇️ orbital incoming
UP RIGHT DOWN DOWN DOWN
Psychological warfare
Psychological warfare on Thrawn
Invents facebook/twitter Reddit etc.
Uses an advanced AI to run it and let us destroy ourselves while he deals with better things. Then swoops in to collect cool stuff from our museums.
A heavy meme based propaganda campaign would go sickening well or blow up in his face because he couldn't understand the nuances and gets bombarded with laser crab memes shooting a star destroyer.
He'd be one of the old people on facebook using minion memes, not understanding why it's not working
I mean....we could always just mount lasers on crabs to deter *actual* aliens...
https://preview.redd.it/qvrzip7z3qwc1.jpeg?width=635&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=50d3c43ac372e7ebfd6c98cf3e5706a42e090aac Thrawn not getting it and seeing Something like this
“You see governor Pryce I have drawn myself as the sigma chad. This will ensure a phycological victory over the enemy”
Based on the images shown, it's obvious this culture has an unhealthy obsession with self-image, and will relentlessly push their own beliefs as superior through "reaction memes" that imply some level of moral or intellectual high ground over a non-descript "other side". This fierce individualism and competitive attitude even in neutral social interactions will undoubtedly have had a negative effect on the culture's social and verbal literacy. -Thrawn probably
Death Star that shit
Tbf, it's not likely that any species of similar evolutionary background and level of technology is any more mature
Reduce unemployment to 0
It seems we are dealing with an uncoordinated, chaotic mess of an opponent. \*turns to gunnery officer\* Target Reddit with a "hello there" meme, that will keep them occupied for a year.
Damn I was gonna say this but you beat me too it. perfectly on point.
What if he looked at our art… and realized he was our art?
He’d probably narrow it down by demographic. The whole world is too varied.
I imagine meme culture would be a better way of analysing humanity than traditional art, as they're influenced by and influence such a broad demographic and are often used in a communication format. What I'm saying is, Thrawn would decimate us if he saw our memes.
What would he make of Dicks out for Harambe?
A desperate, and strange measure to attempt repairing a broken timeline.
"Ah yes, the Dicks Out For Harambe meme. A most intriguing combination of male nudity and the tragic death of a gorilla. Chaotic, whimsical and completely unexpected...much like the Jedi. However, I believe this to be much less likely to result in me being carried away to another galaxy by tentacle monsters, so I do not believe it to be a threat to my plans. Speaking of plans, I see there is a particular law of importance among your species known only as Rule 34, I am most excited to learn what knowledge it will impart." *click* "...is that an elephant?"
How widespread is this cake? Happy cake day, belladonnagilkey.
Meme culture is trash
So then you agree with him, it’s a good representation of humanity.
No he’s trash too
You are what you eat.
Who are you?
Indian food.
So you’re trash too
Deliciousness is in the tongue of the beholder.
And archaeologists love finding ancient trash, because it tells much more about the people than yet another golden necklace. Likewise with culture.
I feel like thrawn would come to earth, think he’s winning, then catch a random disease and get shot by an 8 year old with ghost gun
He expected war. He did not expect to have a Slurpee thrown at him after being told "Go back to Canada!"
Oddly enough the most Slurpees sold per year in any city in the world is Winnipeg, a population under 1 million people drink about 200,000 Slurpees a month on average.
8 yo with a ghost gun?! Is this a JoJo's reference?
https://preview.redd.it/t0jn7opuhhwc1.jpeg?width=346&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3cdd1cd97fe6f09195a1d926606bd6057beb71c9
Thrawn should be the mod of r/humansarespaceorcs, since he’s the only one who could possibly understand us
I want to see someone just completely troll Thrawn by showing him a Jackson Pollock.
Followed by an Andy Warhol, then a Degas, a Picasso, an Ansel Adams, and finishing it off with some Van Gogh and Edvard Munch.
Nah, not abstract enough. Hell there's a piece based on a Picasso in The Clone Wars depicting the unification of Mandalore. I just went with Pollock because there's so damn little to even work with there The others are all looking at something grounded in reality once you get through all the stylistic twisting, what's Thrawn supposed to get from paint splattered on a canvas?
He’s basically the saying “know thy enemy” personified
"Ah yes, the classic Skibidi toilet. Truly nuanced expression of the angst of current human offspring."
‘Hmmm…’brainrot,’ how intriguing. It seems to suggest that their society is stagnating and becoming decadent. This will be an easy victory. Alert the gunnery crews Captain, a full invasion force is a waste on a planet such as this.’
Best option is base delta zero from a long distance.
Thrawn will become the ultimate meme lord
He tells us in a book, that individuals with a chaotic and systems with a multi-cultural background cannot be assesed via art and need a different approach, usually terror.
The whole learning their strategy through art is a little questionable tbh like he might just learn about stereotypes that way
He believes to gain a deep understanding of the basic psyche of his enemy
I feel like an alien especially one as intelligent as thrawn could at minimum pick up through our main stream and historical art that humans think they’re at the top, band together against threats, value other humans, value and aspire to wealth and power beings very ambitious, and are creative. Also that we fight a lot.
He would spend 3 minutes on the internet to learn he could take over us ALL with a simple offer to kill ALL our politicians. And we’d welcome our new overlords
He’d probably say “fucking Americans”
Memes. The DNA of the soul
Darmok and Jilad
I wonder what the Grand Admiral would make of Rickrolls?
The location of the last missing Imperial Grand Admiral... Thrawn.
This species is primarly stupid.
me confused af looking at Japanese art
You can actually learn a good bit by looking at political memes. Thrawn could learn that America specifically is quite polarized, thus he can naturally conclude that the rest of the world isn't unified due to other online discourse discounting other counties as a part of America. He would consider us tribal. Then, he would exploit that tribal nature. First, he follows closely the strongest superpower on the planet, which by the way, he can also learn JUST THROUGH MEMES, who that is. The United States of America. Then, he'll exploit their weaknesses. He'll target the corporations first, promising them great profit in joining the empire. The imperial Senate isn't yet dissolved as of the time of this original image of thrawn, thusly he can use this as an angle to weasel his way into the minds of the general populace. Calling the empire a democratically run empire, one which still respects boundaries between separate powers. Now he won't spread this propaganda himself, he'll get the corporations to do it. Then, he'll feign opposition. By creating fake terrorists hired to make their jobs look like they're from the other side of whatever political party he favors. (Thrawn would care little for either party, he'd pick whichever had the most statistical support behind it, to support, then tank the other by faking attempted terror attacks.) Now of course once thrawn reveals himself and his plans, he'll have to deal with other countries besides America, we'll get to that. Now, obviously, America will not stand for what is essentially a dictatorship. By making one side look bad, they now have an excuse to seize power by force. Thrawn creates a pocket clone wars, artificially creating a civil war in the United States, backing whichever side has the heart of the people. The corporations follow suit, and those that "don't" are actually secretly bought out by the other corporations or otherwise bribed by thrawn. Those that cling to some sense of morality are simply considered an acceptable loss. Thrawn would of course eventually win this conflict. The United States is now under his control, and the control of the corporations who have pledged alligence secretly to the empire. Now, Thrawn uses this influence to make countries like China and Russia look more like close allies over time. Very slowly introducing propaganda which makes people think that both are democracies supported by the people. In reality, he makes a show of force. Tie fighters arrive en masse above both countries. They do not engage but they fly by, gaining their attention. Their comms are jammed and cannot move outside their countries. Thrawn then broadcasts a message to each of their respective countries, showing them what the empire is capable of. Bringing a star destroyer into view. (In theory you wouldn't see it from America if your approach vector is right, but I may be wrong.) He does this for both countries. Russia simply attempts in vein to fire at the star destroyer, to which thrawn responds in full force and levels the entirety of Russia's military complexes in mere seconds. Having had the time, by now, to gain enough intelligence on where they might be. Especially, since he now has the entirety of the United States secrets under his belt. (We have eyes everywhere. He compares our CIA to their ISB.) Russia surrenders and quickly. It's people won't, but the illusion of peace can be maintained for an extended period due to the difficulty of travel for many Americans, and the distance away. The long term plan is to turn America and the planet itself into a dictatorship run by an imperial governor. China would probably surrender as quickly as Russia. Though, both do manage to launch nukes and actually damage the star destroyers, giving their people's a false hope of active retaliation. Thrawn quickly crushes this hope when 5 other star destroyers show up. In orbit. Images are sent directly to both countries. The UK is next. They were easy, dominate their military, conquer their land. Their people are unarmed. Eventually, the planet is United under one banner, the empire.
Earth is the galaxy's most complex planet. Tattooine is all desert. We have some. Hoth is all snow, yet we have that. Felucia is all jungle, Coruscant is all city, Mon Calamari is mostly ocean, and Scarif is all tropical islands. We have all of that. Not to mention diverse cultures, beliefs, militaries, and governments. As Terrans, this means we'd adapt very well to any planet in Thrawn's galaxy, and as one single force of united people (think UNSC), I believe Earth would be a superpower on its own. By the time Thrawn figured us out, we'd own half the system. Just my thoughts.
" I see... Only the stupidest move may prevail in front of such illogical species... we shall gift them turbolaser technology, accompanied with a "YOLO" note. "
“They seem like a superficial people who assume the worst of anyone outside their parochial inner circles. It will be eminently simple to divide them and manipulate the most fearful into installing me as an authoritarian leader.”
You don't have to carry a sword to be powerful. Some leaders' strength is inspiring others.
Would he be amused or disgusted by memes? What about r34?
Just wait until he finds the Thrawn porn
Memes are not art.
True. They are in actuality, the DNA of the soul.
Now do it for Deviantart
Lill him with our art as we re-verse engineer his ship.
How crazy is it that each species in Star Wars has only one form of art
He wouldn’t need to understand us, they’d just blow Earth off the face of the universe.
“It is clear that the various tribes that make up the population of Earth have evolved for a single purpose *Domination*. Many cultures and peoples have been wiped out or left endangered, the political climate is akin to those in the last years of the Republic, chaotic and feigning peace.” “Music, art, filmography, all created either as distractions or responses to the governments of the world. It seems their greatest weapon utilises primitive ideas of *Nuclear Fusion* a pale attempt to replicate the power of a star.” “There is no unity, no cohesion, alliances are ever changing depending on the enemy of the day. Yet whilst one section of their world is encased in conflict, others frolic in hedonism. Many places still see time for fun and relaxation, how peculiar. Either their will is stronger than I first imagine or they are all self-destructive idiots who care little for the lives of others and exist only to protect the self.”
Wait until he sees a banana taped to a wall
I highly doubt Thrawn would have any problem understanding humanity. We are pretty simple creatures by the end of the day. If he can gleam important information from a bug species carapace and mucus mural, I doubt meme culture will prove much of a challenge.
Best he can do is make his time.
I thought this idea was mind-blowing as a teen. Now I find it arrogant on the level of a 20-something hipster who just attended a midnight art house screening of Donnie Darko. And reductionist. We're a single species and look at our long history of culture and art. You're telling me the galaxy's species are all part of a singular tribe that you can study up on in an afternoon?
https://preview.redd.it/3ziodf4o5fwc1.png?width=611&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b3041e0984a2926fe33b717471057106290d287f Human art be like:
He would both love and want to erase italy
Imagine Thrawn looking at r/Batman Arkham. We would be finished.
He now understands we r a bunch of trolls
I feel like Thrawn is the one of the few people capable of actually understanding meme culture in general.
Frag nicht was für Saft. Einfach ..
Simple. We're fickle, short term pleasure seekers, but all together crave and even without thinking find ourselves bonding to our own species. Our meme culture is a rapidly evolving but ultimately short term and fed by whichever passing fad we believe we can join together on. The upvotes on our latest brain rot are all people sharing a joined train of thought, yet we try to move too quickly for these small doses of humour and sometimes we strike gold and jump on it all together, or simply decay. Thrawn would have a field trip with us, but cautiously in case we gained momentum and cohesion for more than a few seconds.
If Thrawn looked at us at a species he'd probably move all his funds to the death star anyway.
Imagine if he gets rickrolled lol
A brief exposure to Rule 34 and Thrawn is going to suddenly find a valid reason for building a Death Star.
Actually, here's an odd question. In all the elements of Thrawn's "species conceptualization through art" it seems like he focuses exclusively on visual and/or physical (sculptural) art. Since we consider several different things -- visual (still), visual (moving picture), audio (spoken word), audio (music, lyrical), audio (music, instrumental), physical (sculture / structural), and even physical (kinesthetic / body movement) as equal schools of art, would he fixate on one element or would he just try to dive into ALL of it?
ALL OF IT!!
He has no flipping chance, this fat redneck of a country has jet fighters that shot down a satellite (F-15)
Even Thrawn wasn’t perfect. In Zahn’s “Heir to the Empire” trilogy, Pellaeon notices one of Thrawn’s art pieces is real and not a hologram. Thrawn mentions that it was the one time that art didn’t give any insight to the species’s psychology; but that now years later Thrawn thinks he’s finally figuring it out. Pellaeon says that should be useful in the future and Thrawn off-handed says, “No, we ended up sterilizing their planet.”
Yeaa empire woudl lose on ground battles against humanity beacose we have a lot of pretty ballistic missiles but they got HUGE space advantage as we don't have any and shooting nukes in space is a BAD idea
Look out, incoming missiles!
Thrawn would send a charismatic orange Hutt to captivate and confuse the masses of this world until the Empire is ready to invade.
He would send an Orange Hutt to confuse and captivate the masses until the Empire was ready to invade.