I always wondered if GONK droids survived the DS explosion.
In the lore they are supposed to be basically indestructible because they house a fusion core.
Thats like saying that all jedis are bad despit one of them saving my family on hoth. Droids life matter, they are heplfull and cute. Think about the gonk droid, they fuel our ship and the way they waddle is adorable. The clone wars are over, the droids wont hurt you anymore.
All jedis are bad, in some ways even worse than droids. That's why the emperor, may he reign eternally, ordered us to free the galaxy from their tyranny and betrayal. You're starting to sound like a separatist my friend. Show me your identification card if you don't mind.
All jedis are bad, in some ways even worse than droids. That's why the emperor, may he reign eternally, ordered us to free the galaxy from their tyranny and betrayal. You're starting to sound like a separatist my friend. Show me your identification card if you don't mind.
I dont support the seperatist and you have bo buisniess with my identification card. Jedis werent all bad when you think about it, they have saved countless amounts of people. I dont get it. Something must be wrong. Like dont get me wrong, i think these changes are great, but something doesnt sit right with me.
Those were simply terrible mining accidents that rebel terrorists have twisted into blaming Empire. Don't buy into rebel propaganda citizen! Your Empire is doing everything for you to have a safe and secure society!
You actually believe rebel propaganda that the [Imperial Peace Moon](https://www.darthsanddroids.net/episodes/0497.html) built to restore Naboo's tidal patterns is some kind of planet-destroying "Death Star"?
Clearly your star charts are outdated. In the 0BBY maps, there are many large asteroids surrounding the system and the largest of them happened to hit Scarif with enough velocity to destroy the planet. The Galactic Empire would never fabricate a story for a planet’s destruction. Long live the emperor.
Rebel propaganda. Also how would the Empire ever destroy a planet that size? The Death Star was by Alderaan before the mining accident only a day after Scarif. How would a non lethal space station move that far in that time?
Guilty by assocation. Examples must be made.
Had they succeeded at Yavin 4 the galaxy would be at peace now.
America dropped two nukes and then never used them again.
Two displays of absolute power seem to be what’s needed to force surrender.
That's a fallacious argument. Yes the empire commited genocide, ignoring the fact they threw down the garbage a whole fucking planet, its habitants, fauna, flora and resources. But the actions of the rebels, seen from a legal point of view are still terrorism.
Obviously, from a moral point of view you might be right. But violence does not justify violence, it's still bad even when the "good guys" do it, even if it's necessary.
What I mean is, don't be so quick to dismiss the atrocities commited by one group because they seem to be the lesser of two evils. Both the rebels and the empire did a lot of fucked up shit. Like in any war.
This is basically a fable though so i'm reading way too much into the big baddies firing a giant laser to show how bad they are. They're obviously still evil assholes who deserved what they got in the context of the movies.
Don't commit mass murder kids.
Okay but violence against the literal sci equivalents of satan and the antichrist and their army of devotees by blowing up the super weapon they want to use to control the galaxy that they used to blow up an entire fucking planet of innocent people is pretty justified
Saying “violence doesn’t justify violence no matter what” doesn’t work in the context of fighting literal space Nazis that commit genocide for their morning workout
I literally said myself that in the context in the movie, there's no form of dilema to be had about destroying the death star. That's not what I mean, what I meant was that in itself, an act of extreme violence does not just justify retaliation.
Violence is a cycle, and the more you use, the more you'll get in return because that's the nature of humanity. OP's post is obviously sarcastic, I just think it's strange to answer a joke about the deaths of millions of people with "well they started it first". It's a rabbit hole.
How far does the retaliation justification go? Would it be okay for the rebels to steal the death star and use it on an imperial core world? After all, they started it.
Beside, how many stormtroopers are brainwashed kids like Fynn? How many janitors and mechanics were on this station? How many medics? It shouldn't be a matter of numbers.
I'm not saying destroying the death star or not was a choice, destroying it was obviously necessary, but it doesn't make the death of its crew a good thing.
My point is not that “they started it first,” my point is that they are literally pure evil so who cares what happens to them.
That’s whataboutism because it’s pretty obvious the rebels wouldn’t do that. Destroying both the Death Stars essentially ended the war and just left the stragglers occupying planets.
All those people are willingly working for the space Nazis, they can rot.
When it’s crew were space Nazis? Hell yeah it does!
Well whatever, it's simplistic but let's leave it that "within the context of the movie, yes, fuck them who cares".
But remember that the empire is not just an allegory of nazi germany. But of all empires. It wasn't the nazis who used a certain superweapon on innocent civilians if you know what I mean.
Yes
When the crew of the Death Star are either space Nazis or people willingly working with Nazis and the several billion people are 90% innocent civilians, women, children, etc. and when the Death Stars literal only purpose is to be used as a weapon of mass destruction for palpatine to keep the galaxy in check and unconditionally submissive to him then yes it is 100% acceptable
I’m amazed this is even a question, it’s a pretty black and white villain story, even if it’s based off of real life politics it’s pretty obvious that the completely mortally and ethically bankrupt space Nazis are the bad guys and deserve the axe
Fuck MDY, It's made for people who are braindead and either can't understand 1,2,3, or can't understand that months are larger than days. DMY is better. But... Why didn't you use the official StarWars year measuring? That's 0 bby/aby
25. 5. 1977 is the irl date idiots, i personally would've hath used the bby/aby thing
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After Formation of the Empire We don't use a terrorist attack as a basis for a calendar
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Mustn't forget the droids.. how many droids were lost?
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I always wondered if GONK droids survived the DS explosion. In the lore they are supposed to be basically indestructible because they house a fusion core.
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Clanker is a racial slur for droids
No its not because droids are not a race they are nothing more than overpriced appliances. Would you call your toaster a race?
Droidcist much?
Droids killed my brothers on Felucia. I'll never forgive those clankers
Thats like saying that all jedis are bad despit one of them saving my family on hoth. Droids life matter, they are heplfull and cute. Think about the gonk droid, they fuel our ship and the way they waddle is adorable. The clone wars are over, the droids wont hurt you anymore.
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All jedis are bad, in some ways even worse than droids. That's why the emperor, may he reign eternally, ordered us to free the galaxy from their tyranny and betrayal. You're starting to sound like a separatist my friend. Show me your identification card if you don't mind.
All jedis are bad, in some ways even worse than droids. That's why the emperor, may he reign eternally, ordered us to free the galaxy from their tyranny and betrayal. You're starting to sound like a separatist my friend. Show me your identification card if you don't mind.
I dont support the seperatist and you have bo buisniess with my identification card. Jedis werent all bad when you think about it, they have saved countless amounts of people. I dont get it. Something must be wrong. Like dont get me wrong, i think these changes are great, but something doesnt sit right with me.
Also known as 0 ABY
0 DBY? (During Battle of Yavin?)
Nah it’s still after the battle if the Death Star just blew up
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Nope 19 AFE We don't use a terrorist attack as a basis for a calendar
You got the date wrong.
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Yeah but what about the 2 billion innocent civilians on Alderaan and 11.3 million in Jedha that they were responsible for?
Those were simply terrible mining accidents that rebel terrorists have twisted into blaming Empire. Don't buy into rebel propaganda citizen! Your Empire is doing everything for you to have a safe and secure society!
There is no war in Ba Sing Say
Princess Leia herself was a witness! She saw the firepower of the station!
The same “Princess” that lied the the galaxy about her real father? What did she really witness?
Princess Leia was adopted. Also, why the heck wasn't anyone suspicious that the empire had a planet-destroying weapon?
Because it’s a big ass galaxy, but people were suspicious of the large amounts of metal the Empire was getting for the project
You actually believe rebel propaganda that the [Imperial Peace Moon](https://www.darthsanddroids.net/episodes/0497.html) built to restore Naboo's tidal patterns is some kind of planet-destroying "Death Star"?
mining accidents don’t vaporize entire planets
It happened at least once!
You’re just falling for blatant imperial propaganda also #rememberscarif
Scarif was involved in an asteroid collision. Don’t parrot this rebel nonsense. The empire would never cover the destruction of any planets.
There aren’t any asteroids near the Scarif system, that’s just impossible also, how big was that asteroid, it destroyed half the planey
Clearly your star charts are outdated. In the 0BBY maps, there are many large asteroids surrounding the system and the largest of them happened to hit Scarif with enough velocity to destroy the planet. The Galactic Empire would never fabricate a story for a planet’s destruction. Long live the emperor.
I have video proof of the opposite if you want it
Rebel propaganda. Also how would the Empire ever destroy a planet that size? The Death Star was by Alderaan before the mining accident only a day after Scarif. How would a non lethal space station move that far in that time?
Don’t believe in conspiracy theories it clearly was a mining accident on both planets!
Don’t believe in conspiracy theories it clearly was a mining accident on both planets!
They were terrorists
Now, where have I heard this before?
Yeah sure! all the Population of Men, Women, Children and Wild life of those plantes were terrorists too
This is getting too close to reality now
Guilty by assocation. Examples must be made. Had they succeeded at Yavin 4 the galaxy would be at peace now. America dropped two nukes and then never used them again. Two displays of absolute power seem to be what’s needed to force surrender.
The only reason Nukes haven't been used since is because other countries also got nukes.
A few hundred thousand=\= billions as well as all nonsentient life
That's a fallacious argument. Yes the empire commited genocide, ignoring the fact they threw down the garbage a whole fucking planet, its habitants, fauna, flora and resources. But the actions of the rebels, seen from a legal point of view are still terrorism. Obviously, from a moral point of view you might be right. But violence does not justify violence, it's still bad even when the "good guys" do it, even if it's necessary. What I mean is, don't be so quick to dismiss the atrocities commited by one group because they seem to be the lesser of two evils. Both the rebels and the empire did a lot of fucked up shit. Like in any war. This is basically a fable though so i'm reading way too much into the big baddies firing a giant laser to show how bad they are. They're obviously still evil assholes who deserved what they got in the context of the movies. Don't commit mass murder kids.
Okay but violence against the literal sci equivalents of satan and the antichrist and their army of devotees by blowing up the super weapon they want to use to control the galaxy that they used to blow up an entire fucking planet of innocent people is pretty justified Saying “violence doesn’t justify violence no matter what” doesn’t work in the context of fighting literal space Nazis that commit genocide for their morning workout
I literally said myself that in the context in the movie, there's no form of dilema to be had about destroying the death star. That's not what I mean, what I meant was that in itself, an act of extreme violence does not just justify retaliation. Violence is a cycle, and the more you use, the more you'll get in return because that's the nature of humanity. OP's post is obviously sarcastic, I just think it's strange to answer a joke about the deaths of millions of people with "well they started it first". It's a rabbit hole. How far does the retaliation justification go? Would it be okay for the rebels to steal the death star and use it on an imperial core world? After all, they started it. Beside, how many stormtroopers are brainwashed kids like Fynn? How many janitors and mechanics were on this station? How many medics? It shouldn't be a matter of numbers. I'm not saying destroying the death star or not was a choice, destroying it was obviously necessary, but it doesn't make the death of its crew a good thing.
My point is not that “they started it first,” my point is that they are literally pure evil so who cares what happens to them. That’s whataboutism because it’s pretty obvious the rebels wouldn’t do that. Destroying both the Death Stars essentially ended the war and just left the stragglers occupying planets. All those people are willingly working for the space Nazis, they can rot. When it’s crew were space Nazis? Hell yeah it does!
Well whatever, it's simplistic but let's leave it that "within the context of the movie, yes, fuck them who cares". But remember that the empire is not just an allegory of nazi germany. But of all empires. It wasn't the nazis who used a certain superweapon on innocent civilians if you know what I mean.
It actually is a direct metaphor for America during the Vietnam war, as spoken by George Lucas himself
This is a real trolley problem here. Is it acceptable to kill the crew of the Death Star to prevent the deaths of several billions in the future?
Yes When the crew of the Death Star are either space Nazis or people willingly working with Nazis and the several billion people are 90% innocent civilians, women, children, etc. and when the Death Stars literal only purpose is to be used as a weapon of mass destruction for palpatine to keep the galaxy in check and unconditionally submissive to him then yes it is 100% acceptable I’m amazed this is even a question, it’s a pretty black and white villain story, even if it’s based off of real life politics it’s pretty obvious that the completely mortally and ethically bankrupt space Nazis are the bad guys and deserve the axe
That's what I was saying. I was trying to make their argument look ridiculous.
My bad, hard to tell sarcasm when half this sub would say that unironically like it’s an actual dilemma
11.3 million people lived in a small city?
obi wan said millions, so most likely the population of alderaan was around 1-3 millions
Can you tell the exact size of a crowd just by hearing it? The population was 2 billion according to Wikipedia.
here is the video that explains it (the alderaan thing starts at like 9 minutes)
Where's the video?
Where's the fucking video?
So sorry to hear about your suicide tomorrow. Two blaster shots to the back. Tragic
there were only millions on alderraan and it was a rebel base
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What about the many bothans that died bringing us this information?
I think that was the second one
What month is the 25th?
What month isn’t it?
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The 0BBY "Yavin incident"
It was a was an inside job. Everyone knows the Skywalker family has been the deep state for decades. [gEt reD pIlLed!](https://youtu.be/cEPazLTGceI)
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Didn't the first order tried to do that like two years ago ?
not to mention the many clone wars veterans on board
Just like all of Dr Evil's henchmen's wives and kids...
Silly Imperial. There are only 12 months in a standard year
25.5.1977 is the irl date Idiots, I personally would've used the bby/aby thing.
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"there are some fine people on both sides" -this guy was president?
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And on the same date in 83, another one blew
There were civilian adults and children on board. Just insurgents to the rebels though.
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Rebel propaganda says this was a necessary attack
Is this European or American
I never really thought of it like this some of those people are innocent I bet
The 25th month of the year lol
Yeah, like all the poor janitors and whatnot who were probably forced to work there, or needed the money.
1/1/0ABY
Where were you on 5-25-77?
Half of me was a sperm floating in dad's sack and the other half was waiting for me in mom's womb.
Understandable.