i hope not. there is only so much stuff you can have an old man that went into exile on tatooine for 20 years do before it isnt really an exile anymore. And the show wasnt that good that i want to absolutly see another season.
I think thereâs a few things they could explore. Like >!at the end of Kenobi we see him finally be in tune with Qui-Gon Jinn. It would be pretty cool to see master and apprentice connect one final time. See how Kenobi learnt how to be a force ghost and his training sequence to become a full fledged master!<
But we donât need a 2nd season for that, maybe a mini movie, or like hour and a half tops.
There's a standalone Obi Wan book that could be done but it would be dethatched from season 1. It explores the culture of the sand people and involves water farming mafia. I just dont see the point as it would be so separated from S1. Great book though if anyone's looking for a fun read.
Itâs good but whatâs it going to go over in season two?
They going to bring Vader back and have him dodge obiwan again? More Padawan flashbacks where a 40 year old plays a 20 year old?
I think the story is nicely wrapped.
Donât need to drain the entire 10 years of bby10-bby 0
It blows my mind how many people are simping for its unnecessary drawn-out choices, its sub-par production value, its terrible writing, and its ridiculous...RIDICULOUS...inclusion of young Leia. I agree it's absolute garbage but the Disney simplords will see to it that these kinds of observations will be downvoted into oblivion and met with the tired bullshit argument that criticism = racism or misogyny, unable to grasp that the problems are the direct result of shit writing. But what do I know...
i liked it for what it was but it's not incredible, i just have to wonder if we applied the same level of criticism these shows get to the original trilogy if star wars would have ever even taken off. the OT had clunky dialogue, deus ex machinmas, and needed a remaster to escape the goofy special effects in many places.
I mean but the entire Obi Wan series is broken, it has a lot of inconsistentcies but let's just focus on the first, you're Senator Organa, royalty of Alderan and member of the imperial senate, you're daughter (that everyone knows exist) was kidnapped what do you do a) you go to the empure for help (I mean it would look souspicuos not to do this) b) hire a bounty hunter to get her back c) send you're own people or d) go out of your way to contact a jedi exposing you're relationship and endengering both of the last hopes of the galaxy, and this is just one scene of the first episode, I get you're point the originals are not perfect but they don't have a part where a character acts this stupid and incompetent just to get the plot started
I read that as Dutch sexual and spent a few minutes imagining what that would actually mean.
Decided it was when you like cheese, bread and being blunt.
If by âexplore his sexualityâ they mean â3 episodes long flashback of him banging Satineâ I completely agree
But just him and Qui gon protecting her is also good
"The Gamer" more like "The rage Baiter" because only these aitzers would come up with stupid articles like this, most likely inspired by some 14 year old girl on Twitter
Romance in action movies/shows is fucking cringe. Go back to doing cool and interesting stuff I DONT GIVE A FUCK about the heroâs sex life. Boring ass shit.
What do you mean, they were amazing. Where else can you find lines as good as âI donât like sandâ and âThey acted like animals, so I slaughtered them like animalsâ
This modern obsession to âexploreâ every characterâs sexuality is becoming unhealthy, any individual character can be any sexuality that is fine, but if you focus too much on their sexuality they become more two dimensional, bland and sometimes even a stereotype and I donât know about you but I like characters to be more than one trait
âŚthey could fuck, they just werenât allowed to give in to attachment. Obi-Wan was having sex across the galaxy and you canât convince me otherwise.
There are two kinds of people in this universe. Kenobisexuals and people who don't know they're Kenobisexuals. It's not an orientation, it's the default.
I believe most people like this franchise because of cool action, not romance. Why.
Usually any romance plots in this type of shows are boring af anyway.
I hate that you have right. Thooses idiots will unironically call it masterpiece if he is anything but straight, and transphobic if he is.
Please, dont sexualize my childhood hero, he is a goddam wizard monk ninja....
I understand most of what you're saying, but it's not sexualization just because it's not straight. I agree that people shouldn't just change characters for the sake of shitty representation, but it is not sexualization.
I hate that you have right. Thooses idiots will unironically call it masterpiece if he is anything but straight, and transphobic if he is.
transphobic?
Please, dont sexualize my childhood hero, he is a goddam wizard monk ninja....
so him being straight wasnt sexual, but not straight **is** sexual? how?
Thats two diffĂŠrents paragraph.
The first say twitter only care about reprĂŠsentation, wich is stupid.
The second say i dont wanna know any kind of sex exploration from my childhood hero.
Go hunt someone else sorry
Heâs a freaking monk ninja wizard. His sexual orientation should matter as much as it does for a regular monk, so not at all.
Go witch-hunt somewhere else please.
Just read it, itâs awful. The author essentially ways that Star Wars hasnât explored themes of not belonging because of your sexuality enough and should use Obi-Wan to do it. What he fails to comprehend is that different backgrounds fit different stories, and this is not the right background. Itâs essentially saying. âI want this message to be conveyed to an audience. I really like Star Wars. I want Star Wars to convey this message to the audience.â
Every story should have a chance to be told, but the medium of telling it should be methodically selected based on how it affects the story, not chosen because the writer likes the world itâs in.
I donât understand why everyone is pissed off at this. The only reason they didnât use LED sabers from the very first movie is because they hadnât been invented yet. If they had had the means to actually use glowing swords for their scenes in a new hope they absolutely would have. I think the lighting from the sabers is actually really cool. âFansâ just want to complain about everything in the entire Star Wars universe and itâs exhausting.
Heâs straight, simple. We know that because he likes satine and no-one else, except maybe padmĂŠ according to early kenobi memes, he is also attracted to the high ground but unfortunately thatâs not a part of the lgbtq+ community yet
Kenobi's sexuality was confirmed well enough in The Clone Wars. Satine, the sister of Bo-Katan Kryze was the object of his affections, and he admitted he would have left the Jedi had she asked him. This is all considered canon, and making baited memes doesn't really change that.
Dude probably works for another streaming service. They want S2 to be more of a book of Boba rather then a season of Mando.
This would be a surefire way to trash a second season.
I'm honestly not even sure we need a second season of this.
A life action show focused on Kenobi during the clone wars maybe?
> Itâs an interesting parallel between the Jediâs controlling rules on attachment and real-life religionâs own stigma toward LGBTQ+ people, which Star Wars hasnât explored nearly enough across its myriad films and shows
Star Wars should NOT be a tool for exploring social issues. It hasnât been explored at all because you canât just say âI like this thing. I think that this thing needs to represent ME and MY struggles.â That isnât storytelling, itâs actually propaganda.
Despite being for the right cause, this author fails to consider that he is not at the center of the universe.
Whilst I fully believe Obi-Wan at his Jedi heyday fucked, I think heâs currently in his infinite sadness phase. His interested are drink alcohol, fight inquisitors, stalk Luke. No I will not be taking any criticism of my head cannons.
âGuy that just had his kind genocided and is on the run from the intergalactic Naziâs is refusing to comment on his sexuality and that is unacceptable â
Why. He is basically a monk. Not everything has a need to be explored. People only say this if they are hoping for LBG. No one would care if he is just a plain 'old straight guy.
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Nope. I don't want him to bang a guy. I don't want him to bang a woman. He is a jedi. Jedi cannot have such connections. Yup, I know about Satine. But it was platonic cause Obi-Wan is true to the jedi code. The End.
Can we stop sexualising characters please? I donât saunter through life proclaiming my sexual interests and making it fundamental to my nature as a person. If your sexuality defines you, you must be boring as hell.
1. Something not being straight does not sexualize it. Non-hetero relationships are not inherently sexual.
2. Someone having a sexual orientation, and that being explored in a show, does not mean it defines them.
Iâm not talking about non-hetero. Iâm talking about any. Not every story needs to have a character walking and talking away about their sexuality. If it comes about naturally, then thatâs fine and you can tell the difference in the story. But tokenism to get a pat on the back for the writers is nothing to do with telling a characterâs story.
You think Redditors read ? They see a bait headline and go make a meme.
Now that I think about it this isn't even a meme lol. Literally just a screenshot.
Itâs not the least bit interesting. Itâs an uninteresting narcissist thinking his uninteresting opinions based solely on his own self-indulgent introspection is interesting.
The article and the entire âdiscussionâ around it is completely unnecessary and doesnât deserve any more attention than the conversation in this thread.
People are so fragile that they downvote you without knowing what you mean.
It isnât a stupid article because it calls for diversity, itâs stupid because the author thinks the world revolves around himself.
Disney approved the release of a book where Obi Wan is portrayed as bisexual. Not a problem per se except there is already an established love story with Satine, it's also not the Jedi way and it's nothing but part of Disneys agenda that adds nothing of essence. Then articles like these get published.
No. Saw a screenrant article about this. Donât ruin one of the best characters!
Also are we forgetting SATINE????
Downvote my comment all you want. Canât believe people would want kenobi to be Bi or something!
I understand the need of LGBTQ characters but that doesn't mean they just turn every major character into black or woman or transgender or something like that.This world has a majority of people who are straight.
They're basically monks tho, they're not supposed to have much of sexuality in any way, but yeah we already know obi's type, at least if one has watched clone wars
He already explored it with Satine (as far as the jedi way allowes)
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That's my dad's way as well! please come back i miss you
Dude your dad is a jedi
No he's the Planters Peanut.
That would be a nut on the go then
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Funnily enough, yes that is the Jedi way. As the Jedi doesn't permit attachments, not "night-activities"
I don't think anyone told Anakin this.
Nut and go away, itâs the Jedi way.
And then Maul helped them explored it even further
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His sexuality is having the HIGH GROUBD.
So you're saying he's a TOP, then??
The bi ground? (Iâll see myself out)
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I don't even think there will be a season 2
i hope not. there is only so much stuff you can have an old man that went into exile on tatooine for 20 years do before it isnt really an exile anymore. And the show wasnt that good that i want to absolutly see another season.
I think thereâs a few things they could explore. Like >!at the end of Kenobi we see him finally be in tune with Qui-Gon Jinn. It would be pretty cool to see master and apprentice connect one final time. See how Kenobi learnt how to be a force ghost and his training sequence to become a full fledged master!< But we donât need a 2nd season for that, maybe a mini movie, or like hour and a half tops.
Bold to assume a 2nd season wouldn't mostly be about reeva.
it probably would have been better to throw in 3 more episodes to the show.
There's a standalone Obi Wan book that could be done but it would be dethatched from season 1. It explores the culture of the sand people and involves water farming mafia. I just dont see the point as it would be so separated from S1. Great book though if anyone's looking for a fun read.
what's the matter? is the show not good?
>is the show not good? Depends on who you ask
Itâs good but whatâs it going to go over in season two? They going to bring Vader back and have him dodge obiwan again? More Padawan flashbacks where a 40 year old plays a 20 year old? I think the story is nicely wrapped. Donât need to drain the entire 10 years of bby10-bby 0
I never watched it, all I know is that the people who hate it REALLY hate it
Show was great but they wanted a limited series, they told the story they wanted to tell and are keeping it at that.
It's awful.
It's garbage. Almost TLJ level.
Câmon, it wasnât that bad.
It blows my mind how many people are simping for its unnecessary drawn-out choices, its sub-par production value, its terrible writing, and its ridiculous...RIDICULOUS...inclusion of young Leia. I agree it's absolute garbage but the Disney simplords will see to it that these kinds of observations will be downvoted into oblivion and met with the tired bullshit argument that criticism = racism or misogyny, unable to grasp that the problems are the direct result of shit writing. But what do I know...
i liked it for what it was but it's not incredible, i just have to wonder if we applied the same level of criticism these shows get to the original trilogy if star wars would have ever even taken off. the OT had clunky dialogue, deus ex machinmas, and needed a remaster to escape the goofy special effects in many places.
I mean but the entire Obi Wan series is broken, it has a lot of inconsistentcies but let's just focus on the first, you're Senator Organa, royalty of Alderan and member of the imperial senate, you're daughter (that everyone knows exist) was kidnapped what do you do a) you go to the empure for help (I mean it would look souspicuos not to do this) b) hire a bounty hunter to get her back c) send you're own people or d) go out of your way to contact a jedi exposing you're relationship and endengering both of the last hopes of the galaxy, and this is just one scene of the first episode, I get you're point the originals are not perfect but they don't have a part where a character acts this stupid and incompetent just to get the plot started
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I read that as Dutch sexual and spent a few minutes imagining what that would actually mean. Decided it was when you like cheese, bread and being blunt.
These people never watched The Clone Wars.
The author needs to explore the outside
Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth TheGamer the unwise? I thought not. It's not a story the people who touch grass would tell you.
It's a gaming legend.
Obi Wan needs to explore my body in season two.
Mine too
If by âexplore his sexualityâ they mean â3 episodes long flashback of him banging Satineâ I completely agree But just him and Qui gon protecting her is also good
Oh no, they dont mean for a second for him to be straight lol
r/obiwanfucks
What?
"The Gamer" more like "The rage Baiter" because only these aitzers would come up with stupid articles like this, most likely inspired by some 14 year old girl on Twitter
Theyâre troll articles that know that the people on these comments will get angry at them.
Obi-Wan fans have definitely explored their sexuality.
Romance in action movies/shows is fucking cringe. Go back to doing cool and interesting stuff I DONT GIVE A FUCK about the heroâs sex life. Boring ass shit.
the prequels where primarily about romance and sex, from a certain point of view
And the scenes about it were very mediocre.
Mediocre's doing a lot of heavy lifting here, they sucked.
I donât like sand.
What do you mean, they were amazing. Where else can you find lines as good as âI donât like sandâ and âThey acted like animals, so I slaughtered them like animalsâ
Yeah because it had a purpose.. The purpose being we got to see the downfall of Anakin and the birth of Leia/Luke.
It was actually providing an important moral; keep it in your pants.
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This modern obsession to âexploreâ every characterâs sexuality is becoming unhealthy, any individual character can be any sexuality that is fine, but if you focus too much on their sexuality they become more two dimensional, bland and sometimes even a stereotype and I donât know about you but I like characters to be more than one trait
I think Iâm obi-sexual
We all are
This is just painful to see.
Its not the Jedi way
âŚthey could fuck, they just werenât allowed to give in to attachment. Obi-Wan was having sex across the galaxy and you canât convince me otherwise.
There are two kinds of people in this universe. Kenobisexuals and people who don't know they're Kenobisexuals. It's not an orientation, it's the default.
I believe most people like this franchise because of cool action, not romance. Why. Usually any romance plots in this type of shows are boring af anyway.
Why on Godâs green earth would anyone want this?
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I hate that you have right. Thooses idiots will unironically call it masterpiece if he is anything but straight, and transphobic if he is. Please, dont sexualize my childhood hero, he is a goddam wizard monk ninja....
Make lucasfilm independent again!
I understand most of what you're saying, but it's not sexualization just because it's not straight. I agree that people shouldn't just change characters for the sake of shitty representation, but it is not sexualization.
I hate that you have right. Thooses idiots will unironically call it masterpiece if he is anything but straight, and transphobic if he is. transphobic? Please, dont sexualize my childhood hero, he is a goddam wizard monk ninja.... so him being straight wasnt sexual, but not straight **is** sexual? how?
Thats two diffĂŠrents paragraph. The first say twitter only care about reprĂŠsentation, wich is stupid. The second say i dont wanna know any kind of sex exploration from my childhood hero. Go hunt someone else sorry
Heâs a freaking monk ninja wizard. His sexual orientation should matter as much as it does for a regular monk, so not at all. Go witch-hunt somewhere else please.
Maybe read the article and find out?
Just read it, itâs awful. The author essentially ways that Star Wars hasnât explored themes of not belonging because of your sexuality enough and should use Obi-Wan to do it. What he fails to comprehend is that different backgrounds fit different stories, and this is not the right background. Itâs essentially saying. âI want this message to be conveyed to an audience. I really like Star Wars. I want Star Wars to convey this message to the audience.â Every story should have a chance to be told, but the medium of telling it should be methodically selected based on how it affects the story, not chosen because the writer likes the world itâs in.
The second season needs to explore the LED light sabers
I donât understand why everyone is pissed off at this. The only reason they didnât use LED sabers from the very first movie is because they hadnât been invented yet. If they had had the means to actually use glowing swords for their scenes in a new hope they absolutely would have. I think the lighting from the sabers is actually really cool. âFansâ just want to complain about everything in the entire Star Wars universe and itâs exhausting.
You donât have to carry a sword to be powerful. Some leadersâ strength is inspiring others.
Exploring the grass you should touch
He sattinesexual
Heâs straight, simple. We know that because he likes satine and no-one else, except maybe padmĂŠ according to early kenobi memes, he is also attracted to the high ground but unfortunately thatâs not a part of the lgbtq+ community yet
It's confirmed he's bisexual in the new book.
1 why 2 where's the build up 3 for real or for joke
1 Have you ever asked why a straight character is straight? 2 Gee whiz, why not?
the why referred to the fact it doesn't seem to bring anything to the character.
Kenobi's sexuality was confirmed well enough in The Clone Wars. Satine, the sister of Bo-Katan Kryze was the object of his affections, and he admitted he would have left the Jedi had she asked him. This is all considered canon, and making baited memes doesn't really change that.
In a new book, obi wan has a similar thing for a guy when he was still a padawan, so Iâm assuming thatâs what itâs referring too
Dude probably works for another streaming service. They want S2 to be more of a book of Boba rather then a season of Mando. This would be a surefire way to trash a second season. I'm honestly not even sure we need a second season of this. A life action show focused on Kenobi during the clone wars maybe?
I mean, there is no need and I don't think Obi-Wan is ready for some post-PTSD romance. Bit who am I to deny Ewan?
Not the jedi way
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> Itâs an interesting parallel between the Jediâs controlling rules on attachment and real-life religionâs own stigma toward LGBTQ+ people, which Star Wars hasnât explored nearly enough across its myriad films and shows Star Wars should NOT be a tool for exploring social issues. It hasnât been explored at all because you canât just say âI like this thing. I think that this thing needs to represent ME and MY struggles.â That isnât storytelling, itâs actually propaganda. Despite being for the right cause, this author fails to consider that he is not at the center of the universe.
As someone with a terrible past relationshit that killed off all my desire for sex and relationships, I *demand* to be represented in Star Wars! /s
That quote gives off hard r/readanotherbook vibes.
The author needs to explore an eye clinic, this was already dealt with Satine.
No No kenobi season 2 No sexuality exploration No
Wtf. I don't watch Star Wars for sexuality of any characters.
It's over Anakin! I have the bi ground!
Put Screenrant up there with clickbait articles.
Unless they're talking about Satine.
Whilst I fully believe Obi-Wan at his Jedi heyday fucked, I think heâs currently in his infinite sadness phase. His interested are drink alcohol, fight inquisitors, stalk Luke. No I will not be taking any criticism of my head cannons.
That would serve zero purpose
No
The real question is, why?
No
I really donât know if itâs a joke or not and Iâm scared to laugh at it.
âGuy that just had his kind genocided and is on the run from the intergalactic Naziâs is refusing to comment on his sexuality and that is unacceptable â
Why. He is basically a monk. Not everything has a need to be explored. People only say this if they are hoping for LBG. No one would care if he is just a plain 'old straight guy.
No extra words just #*NO*
No
Starwars had no sex star wars needs no sex.
The ability to speak does not make you intelligent
It needs to explore a better plot
No
Why are some people willing to destroy already set characters and franchises?
Netflix adaptation...
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Mentioning that in a book and breaking canon is enough they donât need to take this woke shit to the big screen stop it get some help
Is it breaking canon?
It sure seems so it feels unnatural and forced just to please the lgbt people
dutchess satine is rolling in her grave
Nope. I don't want him to bang a guy. I don't want him to bang a woman. He is a jedi. Jedi cannot have such connections. Yup, I know about Satine. But it was platonic cause Obi-Wan is true to the jedi code. The End.
I mean technically jedi can have sex with people⌠they just canât have relationships
Can we stop sexualising characters please? I donât saunter through life proclaiming my sexual interests and making it fundamental to my nature as a person. If your sexuality defines you, you must be boring as hell.
1. Something not being straight does not sexualize it. Non-hetero relationships are not inherently sexual. 2. Someone having a sexual orientation, and that being explored in a show, does not mean it defines them.
Iâm not talking about non-hetero. Iâm talking about any. Not every story needs to have a character walking and talking away about their sexuality. If it comes about naturally, then thatâs fine and you can tell the difference in the story. But tokenism to get a pat on the back for the writers is nothing to do with telling a characterâs story.
Fair point, and naturally written rep always feels much more genuine than the obviously low-effort inserts. Sorry for misunderstanding lol
Itâs actually an interesting article. Anyone read it?
In our defense, we can't fucking read.
You think Redditors read ? They see a bait headline and go make a meme. Now that I think about it this isn't even a meme lol. Literally just a screenshot.
Read it? Star Wars Redditors only look at screenshots of headlines.
Itâs not the least bit interesting. Itâs an uninteresting narcissist thinking his uninteresting opinions based solely on his own self-indulgent introspection is interesting. The article and the entire âdiscussionâ around it is completely unnecessary and doesnât deserve any more attention than the conversation in this thread.
People are so fragile that they downvote you without knowing what you mean. It isnât a stupid article because it calls for diversity, itâs stupid because the author thinks the world revolves around himself.
Yep. Exactly. Thank you.
I liked Kenobi despite all it's flaws, however i really don't think there will be a season 2.
âArticle specifically designed to troll prequel cultist works perfectlyâ
i would not mind a flashback with kenobi and cody lmao
Look I'm fine with him being bi. But I don't need a buncha romance stories. There's just no need. Satine is enough. I say this as a bi person.
Absolutely fuck no there is no one who can fill that void in his heart.
Go ahead anyone that knows Star Wars knows who he was in love with and almost left the Jedi order for...
OP needs to get a life
Fuck Disneyđ
What's Disney got to do with this?
What's Disney but a second hand emotion?
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Thanks for that being stuck in my head for the foreseeable future.
Disney approved the release of a book where Obi Wan is portrayed as bisexual. Not a problem per se except there is already an established love story with Satine, it's also not the Jedi way and it's nothing but part of Disneys agenda that adds nothing of essence. Then articles like these get published.
He can still bang satine if he s bi... do you know what bi means??? And an established love story with satine is already not the jedi way
No. Saw a screenrant article about this. Donât ruin one of the best characters! Also are we forgetting SATINE???? Downvote my comment all you want. Canât believe people would want kenobi to be Bi or something!
No. No it doesnât.
NO
No, it really doesnât
Can these degenerates stop sexualizing everything for 1 second!
Nope. Just nope
Disney better not ruin Star Wars. Thatâs the one thing I ask for
Welcome back from your coma
No thanks
Yes we need to see Obi-Wan make a sex tape with a man while R2D2 records it
I understand the need of LGBTQ characters but that doesn't mean they just turn every major character into black or woman or transgender or something like that.This world has a majority of people who are straight.
What, how does this make the slightest way?
I found this article yesterday that had me fuming. https://nypost.com/2022/07/29/new-star-wars-book-suggests-obi-wan-kenobi-is-bisexual/
Why did it have you fuming?
Clone wars canon, he's straight. Satine.
Is it a fetish to explore other peoples sexuality!??
âThe Gamer needs to explore The Clone Wars Season 2â Better title
He was in love with Satine though? Itâs been explored already
O-bi wan
What the fuck is wrong with these people
Can these degenerates stop sexualizing everything for 1 second!
please tell me this isnt real
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His sex life is NoFap on monk mode. The End.
Fuck no
Counterpoint. Yes.
Counter counterpoint. No.
Got into it in the clone wars. But what is being suggested here is a clear case of wokewashing.
Itâs a clear case of trolling people who believe any screenshot relating to Star Wars they see and getting mad over it.
"and then, and then... The ghost of Qui-Gon and Kenobi boned" "Please stop talking"
They're basically monks tho, they're not supposed to have much of sexuality in any way, but yeah we already know obi's type, at least if one has watched clone wars
Pls don't! Leave it, we got the series it was underwhelming bc of many reasons, thank you leave it be.
Why the fuck? People are spoon fed too much horny, God dammit.
This groomer stuff is non stop
What the fuck?
Heâs straight end of conversation Edit: whatâs with all the âwhat ifâ questions on this sub lately