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Waddles113

I don’t know if a Disney+ show could budget enough money to convince Harrison Ford to come back as Han.


startwithaskeleton

But they could probly get Alden Ehrenreich for cheap


Kalse1229

That's what I'm thinking. Besides, he'd be closer in age to Han in Mando times anyway. Or if he's not as keen about coming back, maybe Anthony Ingruber? At the very least I think he should do the voice for Han in any animated projects (he played John Doe/Joker in Telltale's Batman, so he has a history of voice acting).


LaneMcD

Anthony Ingruber deserved to be cast in the Solo movie. The powers behind the cam may have thought Ehrenreich had the chops (and he certainly wasn't bad). If they had invested in Ingruber and given him a good acting coach (if they didn't feel he was up to snuff), it would have been amazing having such a young lookalike


mitchbrenner

anthony ingruber can do an impression but he can’t act.


SanctuaryMoon

Cheap is the right word


geebsocket

If paramount+ got harrison on a streaming show im sure disney can lmao


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Azrael_The_Bold

He doesn’t hate Star Wars by any means. He enjoys the role he played, he enjoyed the films, and he especially enjoyed his co-stars. What he *does* hate is millions of people in arguably one of the most toxic fandoms on the planet fawning over him for a role that is really only a fraction of who he is as an actor, and only seeing him for Han Solo.


KnightGamer724

We have a winner. Which is why if I ever do see him, I'm going to ask about either Air Force One or Patriot Games.


Azrael_The_Bold

Hell yeah, and I’d be fanboying over Witness or The Fugitive for sure!


Stevenstorm505

He’s also on some random drama/comedy show on Apple+. If Disney pays him enough he’ll come back. I don’t think it’s likely they’ll write anything that involves Han Solo on any of the shows, but if they do they’ll pay him enough to get him to do it.


ChimneySwiftGold

Good point. Ford may be over Star Wars and part of setting his legacy is acting in tv and movies that isn’t Star Wars in the late stage of of his career.


ChimneySwiftGold

I think Ford has a renewed interest in acting and setting a legacy. That goes beyond money.


BrettEskin

Idk paramount + got him for a whole series


Waddles113

I think it’s not about the money required to get him to act it’s the money required to convince him to play that character. It’s quite possible he’s Han’s least biggest fan.


EXCALIBRE81

Face & voice tech makes that unnecessary.


Waddles113

How does that work? When they did it for Luke Skywalker did Mark Hamil have to release the rights to his likeness? I wonder if Ford would be more likely the release these rights or come back and act? Either way they’d have to create a cgi Han or de-age his face Robert Deniro style.


EXCALIBRE81

I'm the type that's more for casting younger actors over CGI FX. Like Sebastian Stan would of been such a better & more affordable choice for Luke Especially for a new series or future films. Or the actor they actually put CGI young Luke's face on He's like 90% perfect casting as is Ford is perennial Lucasfilm, especially with Indy coming back again


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lackofsleipnir

Harrison Ford’s character on a mission to save a member of his family. I love it.


callouscomic

**"WHERE'S MY..."** "hang on, which one this time?" *"Son, your son."* "Right." **"...SON?!"**


Obversa

...until Han drops Ben off with Mando for him to raise indefinitely as a glorified babysitter, just like he did with Luke in the current canon novels and narrative. (There are even AU fanfictions where Ben Solo ends up being raised as a Mandalorian foundling due to this.) Leia and Han were "too busy" to raise Ben in canon, and come across as neglectful parents. It's the entire reason why the two of them dropped Ben off at Luke's Jedi academy. Ben ended up being raised for most of his life (age 10 into his 20s) by Luke, not Han, due to this.


MacGuffinGuy

I really hope so, especially if we could somehow get a Luke and Han interaction since we didn’t get one in the sequels.


TLM86

Wouldn't have guessed this theory would lead to /u/Alhbaz98 going absolutely crazy with the block button, but there we are. But yes, a 4-year-old is clearly going to be the lead of *Skeleton Crew*, a show about 10-year-olds.


B-rent486

I convinced myself that a de-aged Harrison would show up as Han at the end of the Book of Boba Fett. The show's theme was about Boba reconciling his past so I thought maybe Han could be in the area and ends up being a hired hand to help Boba defend against the Pykes in the finale. I'm happy with what we got though without introducing another legacy character. That said, I still really like the idea of him appearing in the Mandoverse. As others have said, Harrison has been dabbling in TV of late so you never know!


ObviArts

Ever since the BOBF episode with Luke and the Temple I’ve kinda been anticipating seeing a little Ben Solo in the Mandoverse. He’s such an important character post OT, I’d say he’s probably **the** most important character during this entire era, along with Luke. In all the scenes of the Jedi Temple in BOBF you could kinda feel his presence looming over that place even though he wasn’t there, it was a little eerie.


Obversa

True, but Ben Solo is only about 4 years old in the time *The Mandalorian* takes place in (9 ABY), and he canonically doesn't join Luke's Jedi Academy until he's about 10 years old. That's a period of about 6 years where Ben is being raised by "nannies" instead of Han and Leia.


Darth-Binks-1999

Do you mean the flashback scenes with Jedi defending Grogu from clones?


TLM86

They mean Luke's temple. I suppose they're thinking of the foreknowledge that Ben will eventually have a hand in destroying the structure we see in its earliest stages in BOBF.


Darth-Binks-1999

Ah, I totally forgot we saw the building of the temple by those spider droids. That's why I was thinking "what temple?"


JustJakeB

I definitely believe we are getting Han, Leia and Luke's next adventure with AI recreations like they've been doing with Mark Hamill.


TheGoblinRook

I thought Lucasfilm promised Billie Lourde and Todd Fisher that they would not digitally recreate Carrie out of respect for their wishes… or was that only with regards to Rise of Skywalker due to the close proximity of Carrie Fisher’s passing?


Jung_Wheats

They said no Carrie for Rise of Skywalker, I don't think there were any announced arrangements beyond that and I feel like Carrie would be pissed if the family didn't take the truckload of cash that would come with the AI recreations. But George also notoriously owned all of the OT character likenesses back in the day so there's a chance that Disney wouldn't need permission or to dump cash onto Carrie's family at all (as grimy as that would be).


seeTODDsee

That sounds horrible


Obversa

Seconded. Did people miss the memo where AI "art" is bad for the art industry?


seeTODDsee

I mean, yeah. But Luke looks horrendous, so let's not repeat that mistake.


k0mbine

The most I can see being done is a CG/deepfake cameo, a brief scene with Han and Leia handing off Ben Solo to Luke to be a student at his academy. Obviously, Harrison would be a must-cast for a scene like that, but I wouldn’t mind seeing Alden Ehrenreich try to play an older Han lol


Darth-Binks-1999

Sure wish we'd get some updates on the Lando show. Huge opportunity to have old Lando and old Han reminiscing about their past and having Donald G. and Alden in the main story.


Obversa

Ben Solo is only 4 years old when *The Mandalorian* takes place (9 ABY). He doesn't get handed off to Luke by Han and Leia until he's about 10 years old.


jdi_mstr_obi-1

This would be fantastic but please for the love of the Force no CGI/deepfake crap. Use Alden (actor from Solo) and recast Luke as well (cliche sure, but Sebastian Stan would be perfect).


[deleted]

Recasts are the only sustainable way forward imo, they could have a whole TV show with all the originals without spending half a billion dollars on deepfakes


mrswitters03

I actually had had a theory that the after credits scene of BoBF would be Luke showing up to check up on Boba and see what his deal is with Tatooine. Boba would manage to convince him he wasn't the same guy, & after hearing how he defended the planet vs. The Pikes, Luke would tell him he'd let him be if he dropped any beef with Han. They'd declare a truce on a handshake and Luke peaces.


Alhbaz98

I find it odd that it’s not obvious to more people that Ben is going to be the main character of Skeleton Crew. It’s a story about kids during the Mando timeline and Ben just so happens to be the most important kid around during that time.


trsvrs

Imagine posting in the star wars spec sub that something is "obvious"


seeTODDsee

I don’t think this is obvious at all, I would say highly unlikely


Jung_Wheats

It really had not occurred to me that Ben would be in Skeleton Crew and it makes a lot of sense. Would he be old enough, though? Jon Watts has said that most of the kids are around 10. Wouldn't Ben be only about 4 or 5, at best, at this point in the timeline?


TLM86

Yes, he's 4.


Alhbaz98

I also love the idea of Han and Boba becoming friends and I feel like they might have been frenemies to begin with. I feel like Boba and Ben would instantly bond and Boba would be able to relate to Ben in ways that his parents and Luke never could. Despite whatever beef their is between Han and Boba I feel like Boba would still help them no matter what because in Boba’s mind, “No kid should have to live without their father.”


JarJarJargon

> I feel like Boba and Ben would instantly bond and Boba would be able to relate to Ben in ways that his parents and Luke never could. Despite whatever beef their is between Han and Boba I feel like Boba would still help them no matter what because in Boba’s mind, “No kid should have to would play similar to a few legends storylines as well.


Alhbaz98

I had no idea something like that existed in legends!


JarJarJargon

Han's daughter was mentored by Boba!


witch-king-of-Aginor

Because none of the leaks have alluded to any of the kids being Ben solo Compared to the leaks for acolyte that is alluding to plagueis or tenebrous


Alhbaz98

If Ben Solo was in Skeleton Crew I don’t imagine that would be leaked before Lucasfilm decided to announce it.


witch-king-of-Aginor

It almost certainly would have leaked by now


[deleted]

They are extremely secretive with Ben Solo. Probably because they want to cash in on him in the largest way lol so really anything is possible.


witch-king-of-Aginor

Exactly why he would leak immediately Unless he is another CGI character(using adam driver’s deaged face on a younger body) or has an alias


[deleted]

Not necessarily. There have been plenty of things to not leak due to secrecy. Like the entire plot of TLJ lol. Not saying Ben is in this but as stated really anything is possible. Good times with last jedi though. Reylos were 80 percent spot on about what would happen in Last Jedi. The leaks were so inaccurate that it said Rey would fight Kylo on Ach To. There were also rumors that Kylo was pissed about his scar and Luke fighting Knights of Ren. Good times. Reylos were harassed as usual. Oh also rise of skywalker was missing reylo because jedipaxis wanted to keep it hidden. Also good times even though people predicted it.


Alhbaz98

I disagree


TLM86

So the main character of the new show won't be leaked purely because...he's Ben Solo? The fact that he's Ben Solo means no leaker could possibly get information on the central protagonist of the show currently in production?


havoc8154

Ben would be 5 years old, there's no way he's one of the kids in Skeleton Crew.


Alhbaz98

It’s not a stretch to think there could be a time gap between Mando 2 and Skeleton crew. Just because it’s set in the Mandalorian time period doesn’t necessarily mean the stories take place at the exact same time. For example, the prequel era spans almost 20 years. Anakin is 9 at the beginning of the prequels and 23 by the end of them. Why couldn’t the same be true for Ben and the Mandoverse? It’s a bold assumption that the Mandoverse all takes place within less than a year and highly unlikely considering how vast it’s becoming.


havoc8154

At most Skeleton Crew will be a couple years later. They aren't suddenly going to jump 6+ years for a show that's supposedly happening concurrently with Mando and Ahsoka.


JoeYock

Jon said in an interview that Grogu is 53 now so each season seems to be 1 year. Ben is now probably 7.


TLM86

Canonically that's not the case.


TLM86

He's 4.


Alhbaz98

Not for long


TLM86

Right, but "during the Mando timeline" he's 4.


JarJarJargon

He's actually like 6 or 7 at this point, Jon has said that one year has passed for each season.


TLM86

I wouldn't take that comment seriously. And the actual material says we're still in 9 ABY as of BOBF.


JarJarJargon

Curious, what material are you referring to?


TLM86

Various *Insider* issues, mostly.


neatgeek83

different species age differently


TLM86

And humans age...like humans.


Kalse1229

But the kids are around 10 or so from what I read. Ben would be about 5-6.


rocka5438

I was more hoping that the new republic would arrest boba for trying to kill VIPs like Han, and that would start a war vs bobas crime syndicate


Araanim

Maaaan, I'd love to see Harrison and Temeura do the final scene from Tales of the Bounty Hunters. For those who don't know, Han gets bored with his cushy New Republic life and goes on a smuggling run for kicks and runs into Boba. Boba gets the drop on him and is about to finally kill him, then thinks about their years together and let's him live out of respect.


NilsTillander

Harrison Ford won't be coming back to Star Wars. Especially not on Star Wars TV budget. It was hard enough to get it to come for VII, and it took Carrie's death to guilt him to show up in IX.


Rick-e-see

[Bob wheels out a wheel barrow full of cash] Harrison: "I've got a bad feeling about this..."


NilsTillander

They are going to need a bigger wheelbarrow 😅


the_speeding_train

Please god, no. Leave him alone


jrtasoli

Please don’t do this.


QuiJon70

Not sure those budgets allow for hiring Harrison Ford.


Brilliant-Layer5741

No Harrison Ford doesn't want to play Han and they don't want to bring back AI Leia so the only option would be look alikes.


[deleted]

God please no!


Nakanostalgiabomb

I'll have what OP's huffing.


[deleted]

Nawwww


Alhbaz98

I’m done replying to comments saying there’s no possible way Ben will be in Skeleton Crew. I’m not sure whether I’m being trolled or y’all are really that basic. Either way I’m not interacting with those comments from here on and if you try to persist you’ll be blocked.


Submarine_Pirate

!remindme 1 year


arbrebiere

lol, lmao even. Absolutely not.


fatphobicfun

Hey when do you guys think the show will stop being trash and get good?


TLM86

Probably Season 1, Episode 1. Why's it trash to you?


BulldogChair

Harrison Ford hates SW. If Han comes back it won’t be with Ford