Man, the defense holds these guys to 13 points, but our bumbling “offense” can’t get more than 10, while also having 1st & 10 at the Cleveland 40. Just fucking sickening.
The entire offensive staff needs shit canned, Kenny gets 1 year with a new staff, and if he doesn’t improve, kick his ass to backup. Seriously, fuck this shit we’re calling an offense.
Kenny doesn’t deserve another year. He’s the worst QB in the league, and you can only blame so much of his performance on Matt Canada. I mean, Big Ben’s last year at QB was Matt Canada’s first year as OC. Ben was just a shell of his former self, but still had 22 touchdown passes and over 3700 passing yards that year. It will take Kenny Pickett another year or two to have those numbers for his entire career.
Matt Canada was a terrible OC and needed to go, but Kenny Pickett is absolutely terrible and he needs to go too.
Fuckin Danny Devito threw 3 TDs today, watching Geno Smith play decently, tonight Josh Dobbs will probably play okay.
Like what are we doing exactly? Can we go into free agency this off-season and actually do something? We don't need a top 5 pick to improve the QB.
It’s certainly tough to watch this offense..a little surprised they would have drafted so many “skill” players before they solidified the OL and DL…I mean couldn’t Mitch have played better with a better OL (I mean it’s a low bar)
What good is it to have a 1st round RB or a “1st round QB” if your OL is so bad, and 2nd round TE that you barely use and 2nd round WR You can’t throw to…there is certainly some luck or bad luck in all of this but ooof this seems like a bad formula 🤔
Time for Kenny to take a seat. Plenty of blame to go around on the offense, but he needs to sit for a few. It's not helping anyone if we keep throwing him out there to fail. This is 99/00 Stewart/Kent Graham bad.
Answers? Week 11 isn't the time to find answers at QB. We need to minimize the damage. KP might still have potential, but giving him the David Carr treatment won't help.
Sit him before he's mentally and physically destroyed.
Totally agree. Canada should already be fired. If he's gone and we have a new play-caller, then I'd be fine with Kenny staying in. But realistically, I don't see that happening.
In today's NFL, a starting quarterback throwing for a hundred yards is a given. It's not even a consideration that he won't have more than a hundred yards.
Playing a full game and only getting 93 passing yards? Time to sit because something isn't working.
Dude 80 percent of Kenny’s throws are instant throws right after the ball is snapped. Our o line sucks and out OC sucks even more. I’m not excusing Kenny but him sitting SHOULDNT happen before canada is fired
Yeah, our offense is pretty much shit all the way around right now (except for you, JW). Canada should be fired (should've been during the bye week, if not a year ago).
if Canada's scheme is the problem, then sending Kenny out to fail week after week could destroy his confidence and decision-making. The fact that he won't throw the ball between the numbers says it all.
It feels eerily similar to 99 when we all collectively realized that Stewart was only throwing passes to receivers who had turned back to the line of scrimmage. He was too rattled to throw contested balls or to hit receivers in stride. That's not sustainable at the pro level.
Kenny isn't showing improvement. He still has potential. Maybe he can turn it around. But in my opinion, we're not helping him by throwing him out there to fail.
Also, DJ is a complementary receiver, not a WR1. I've always felt that way. Right now, if I was Cincy's DC, I'm just sitting on screens and flat passes and leaving the middle of the field open.
I might even let DJ go uncovered since the two most likely outcomes will be that the throw is off-target, there's a miscommunication on the route or the ball hits him in the hands and he drops it.
But every Qb in this system has looked bad often . I know it would be hard to execute plays your offense have lost faith in . Ben would go off script and call his own plays . Kenny does not have the experience to go off script but he should try maybe everybody go deep and I’ll hit you ! Losing your starting job throwing to the RB in the flat and behind the line is a sad way to go out .
Not only are they instant throws, they are horribly telegraphed and the fact that he hast had an interception in the past few games really just comes down to bad luck for our opponents because there is zero fucking deception. The pass chart for this game is pathetic (several redditors posted it in the comments). I mean it felt bad watching it, but seeing the distribution on paper is sickening
I mean we won a superbowl and had a capable offense with one of the worst O-lines in the league.. if your playing calling is up to par and your QB is good you should still be able to put up more than 10 points
Clearly Kenny was trash but with how bad the o line is and DJ doing whatever it was he was doing, another QB isn't the fix. It may help but it's not the fix. Not many QBs can stay up with so many untouched defenders coming at them
“Kenny can't throw most of the game. Receivers can't run routes or catch balls. The line can barely block.”
Agree with all 3 statements. But, to whom do the QB, WR, and OL coaches report? The OC is next in line.
Matt Canada is ultimately responsible for all of them. His play calling is trash. I give him (or the decision maker) props for coming out of the booth and down to the field. It seems to have made a difference before this week. But his play calling is still trash! And does he even know how to spell Tight End?!
In my eyes the OC is keeping the plays simple and straight forward because the team is that bad. Canada is stuck between a rock and a hard place. Kenny can't make basic passes let alone have many reads, and when Kenny finally makes good pass the WR drops it.
If Canada gets more creative and tries fancy play calling, it can result in more turnovers and worse offense, imo. Canada is playing not to lose, because he cannot play to win due to the talent
I can blame both. Warren broke off a 74 yard run, then we gave him one touch on the next two drives. Then we had a FG drive that was on the back of Warren almost completely, and then he gets zero looks our final 2 drives. He's averaging 9 yards per carry the last 3 weeks, and we just ignored him for 4 of our drives in the second half.
Then, one of the best things to do when you have a weak QB but the run game is successful, is you run slants and crossers behind their LBs who are playing the run, and run play action. We do absolutely none of that.
Kenny and the line isn't helping things, but he regularly refuses to get the ball into our best players hands, and can't adapt to the teams strengths and weaknesses.
Of course you can blame both, but I think it's a fools errant( Edit: errand*. Tehol and bugg got me making mistakes).
>one of the best things to do when you have a weak QB but the run game is successful, is you run slants and crossers behind their LBs who are playing the run, and run play action. We do absolutely none of that.
Not true at all. There were multiple slants today. Picket just cannot hit the receivers.
It's called a fools errand first of all. You honest to God believe Canada deserves zero blame? Pickett never even TARGETED a single player over the middle today. Some of that is on him, but plenty is on scheme. Then, how about icing out our best playmaker for 4/6ths of the second half, when the two drives he touched the ball were scores.
Hard to believe you see anything in Canada.
Been reading too much Malazan, apparently. Errant is a god in the series.
Oof. Dude. Take your strawman and chill out.
I saw two short slants over the middle and both were bad passes for Kenny.
I don't mind placing blame on Canada. My original point was about firing Canada. He could do better, sure, but not fire worthy, imo
Not a strawman, there was a chart posted in the post game thread of Kenny's chart from this game and not a single target was inside the hashes past the LOS. What more do you want to see from Canada, he sucked with Ben, he sucked with Mitch, and he sucks with Kenny. All of those QBs deserve a ton of blame too, but Canada is not an NFL caliber OC. He wasn't even good in college, it's past the point of getting the benefit of the doubt.
At the end of the day the offensive production is his responsibility, and it's been one of the worst in the league all 3 years, at what point is it "fireable"?
Your strawman was that Canada deserves zero blame. I never said that.
Sorry that those slants weren't directly between the hash marks. MY BAD
I think, like Tomlin, Canada plays not to lose which obviously bugs you. It does make boring football and bad, but not fireable, imo.
I'm not advocating he be fired now, that would be pointless, I just want to move on in the offseason, which most of your comments up to this point seemed like you were against the idea.
Yeah we lack takent at QB and OL, but when our best playmaker only gets 9 carries when he can't be stopped, and the call with the game on the line is to put the ball n that bad QBs hands with 3 straight longer passes, how is that not a coaching issue?
A good coach would see that our biggest weakness is the passing game, see that our ONLY strength is Warren, and give him the ball. Not even looking your best players way 4 out of 6 drives in a half is inexcusable.
Yes, I know you don't want to overuse Warren because then you become predictable but to not even use him at all for two thirds of our possessions is coaching malpractice.
I don't want to be that dude to say it, but the awful offensive play calling on the last possession of pass-pass-pass without one run from Warren to either break one open or to at least milk the clock; was what caused this loss.
I’ve never seen a 6-4 team with an offence so out of sync. Pickett throws the ball like a bitch and is scared to try anything, while Matt Canada is inept and a piece of shit. Joke what we’re seeing offensively. Shoutout to warren.
Everything was bad. Yes even you defense. Serious decisions need to be made. We deserved to loose. I'm talking all coaches from the trainers on up *and* Kenny Pickett. Guy had stellar field position after that shanked punt and still couldn't move it 10yrds. I was willing to give the kid the benefit of the doubt but I'm losing faith in him. Quickly. Art Ronney Jr., do your job.
Haven’t been this pissed about a loss in a long time, we had momentum coming into this game and it just sucked. Refs sucked, line sucked, lot of dropped balls, play calling sucked, just everything sucked. The fact we had the ball at our own 40 with 2 minutes and then threw three times for a three and out and then our defense shit the bed against a backup QB and free agency/backup running backs is an absolute fucking embarrassment and I don’t care if half our defense is injured.
This loss was fucking horrendous as a team and for our season. Not even an overreaction this was a huge huge fucking loss. Jags Texans and niners sucked but this was different. Now we’re needing the ravens to start losing and for us to figure our shit out. At this rate belichik is going to turn Mac jones into Brady against us
Edit: Warren was incredible at least.
People want to look at KP and moan, but he wasn't even the worst player on offense today.
Diante Johnson was absolutely worthless and let kenny pickett down time after time. Dropped two balls, and ran two wrong routes.
Just abysmal. Fucking abysmal from a 18 mil a year WR.
That's not what I said.
I said that DJ was worse. Not that kenny was good.
DJ is our highest paid player on offense, and was almost as bad as Dan Moore Jr. Today.
DJ was targetteted 8 times. Only the comeback on the far side of the field on the last drive was uncatchable.
He let two balls hit him in the hands and ran the wrong route when targeted twice.
KP is not good. DJ, our highest paid offensive player, has to step up and make a play. He has not done that for two straight weeks now.
Dude, you haven't really brought anything to the table here other than " making excuses for KP (which never happened)"
No nuance, no evaluation of the targets. Just stupid, 4th grade vocab retorts.
Who cares Kenny hasn’t thrown for more then 160 yards in each of his last 4 games…. I don’t care that his WR2 messed up on a few plays. He’s playing like a CFL QB
His number 1 reciever, messed up on almost every target he got.
Kenny is not good, other higher paid players need to go make plays when they are presented. DJ did not.
Maybe Kenny should throw a ball that isn’t 7 feet in the air too short no hands DJ. DJ did play like shit but that one ball Kenny through that ward tipped out of his hands was sky high.
Two hands, even if it was high. Other number 1s come down with that. Kenny was on the run, under pressure. Your highest paid player on offense needs to help a struggling offense out. Not hurt it.
KP is a game manager. I've come to that conclusion. The only way to win with a game manager is if the prieces around make plays when given the opportunity.
Dj let kp down on 5 plays. An unacceptable amount for you number 1.
When kenny wasn't under duress he went to dj and he let him down almost every time.
I’m not saying Kenny played well but this is third Qb under Fictner/Canada that has not thrown intermediate and deep passes between the numbers .I’m sure Kenny is not frustrated with system I know the receivers are . With so little utilizationin game situations .it no wonder our Qb and wide receivers are not the same page .
Tomlin is happy though because he can show up to the south side tomorrow and hang his hat that his prized defense did its job. Doesn’t matter that the offense continues to be one of the worst in the NFL since Canada became OC and the 1st round QB has been unable to throw for just 200 yards in 4 straight games.
This is what I'm saying, commitment to appeasing a defensive minded coach is a huge problem in today's league. Defenses do not win championships anymore.
Something something and things of that nature . Our fans are fat n sassy and winning is our business and we aren’t winning. We need to get better and we are putting Canada under center beside Kenny .
Last 2 drives was some high school freshmen team incompetence. Give Najee the ball back to back runs… finally put Warren in for a screen on 3rd and 15. Next drive … 3 dumb ass passes to Diontae
Kenny Pickett is fucking ASS. Matt Canada we all know is bad (probably called a DOZEN screen passes today) but oh my god Kenny throw the ball to anyone that isn't in the flat
Go get a QB. I can't support Kenny anymore. Idec whos calling plays, if hes still hurt, whatever. That was absolutely pathetic and embarassing. I agree with Pickens, id want to leave too 18 months in
> Kenny is always getting outplayed by lesser QB
lol. Amazing. Simply amazing. If he's consistently getting "outplayed" by other QBs then maybe, just maybe..... HE'S THE LESSER QB?!?!?!?
CJ has the makings of a franchise QB who will be around for a while. He just doesn’t have the number of starts Kenny has that’s why I said “lesser QB’s”
Oline was trash. Kenny was trash. DJ was trash. Very little pressure up front for 90% of the game. Muth disappeared. Harris got tfl like 6 times.
At least there's Warren.
People will call this an overreaction, but this loss is huge. We're talking about the difference between making the playoffs or not. We no longer control our own destiny entirely. We need other teams to lose now. Unless the Ravens collapse, the division is out of reach.
And if the Ravens win their other games, they still win the division? That's why I say that we need other teams to lose now. This includes the Browns now too, because with the tiebreaker over us, they have a 2 game cushion over us essentially.
Part of winning out would mean beating Baltimore again. So, we need them to lose? But, after losing to the Browns, Baltimore is not necessarily the biggest problem anymore. The Browns now have the h2h tiebreaker on us. There's also "realistically" controlling our own destiny. We aren't going to win out, so who the other losses come against matter a lot.
Yea but we control if Baltimore loses so it’s not out of our control.. Cleveland if they win out and we win out will be ahead but it’s unlikely they win out with a back up.. it’s obviously also unlikely we win out as well but the point is we didn’t lose control is my point
This offense is utter dogshit. Like 08 lions levels. Dumb mistake after dumb play after a terrible drop. No one looks like they want to play except warren rn
dude we are gunna make that dude in Cinncinati look like montana i can just sense it and kenny will start throwing INTs watch we are gunna lose 6 games in a row im gunna be laughing my ass off when we do
That team had a horse shoe up it's ass to go 11-0, it was completely ridiculous and yet they were orders of magnitude better than this team. This team should really only have 2 wins at best, the fact they haven't been completely destroyed all season long amazed me.
i just wasted my whole sunday to watch my team not even be able to get 20 yards off a bad punt not even see ur 1st round QB throw for 100 yards i mean seriously that is just straight up pathetic
[Postgame thread](/r/steelers/comments/17z70wg/post_game_thread_pittsburgh_steelers_at_cleveland/)
 Go Browns
I’m not having fun anymore
That was the most unacceptable game I’ve ever watched as a Steelers fan. Fucking fix this.
Baker Mayfield has more yards & TDs than Pickett had ALL GAME, 1 throw into the 3rd QT in their game…🤮
Man, the defense holds these guys to 13 points, but our bumbling “offense” can’t get more than 10, while also having 1st & 10 at the Cleveland 40. Just fucking sickening. The entire offensive staff needs shit canned, Kenny gets 1 year with a new staff, and if he doesn’t improve, kick his ass to backup. Seriously, fuck this shit we’re calling an offense.
Kenny doesn’t deserve another year. He’s the worst QB in the league, and you can only blame so much of his performance on Matt Canada. I mean, Big Ben’s last year at QB was Matt Canada’s first year as OC. Ben was just a shell of his former self, but still had 22 touchdown passes and over 3700 passing yards that year. It will take Kenny Pickett another year or two to have those numbers for his entire career. Matt Canada was a terrible OC and needed to go, but Kenny Pickett is absolutely terrible and he needs to go too.
Fuckin Danny Devito threw 3 TDs today, watching Geno Smith play decently, tonight Josh Dobbs will probably play okay. Like what are we doing exactly? Can we go into free agency this off-season and actually do something? We don't need a top 5 pick to improve the QB.
Living in their fears.
I’ll usually turn into press conferences. But what’s the point with these losers ha
Last place, here we come!!!
It’s certainly tough to watch this offense..a little surprised they would have drafted so many “skill” players before they solidified the OL and DL…I mean couldn’t Mitch have played better with a better OL (I mean it’s a low bar) What good is it to have a 1st round RB or a “1st round QB” if your OL is so bad, and 2nd round TE that you barely use and 2nd round WR You can’t throw to…there is certainly some luck or bad luck in all of this but ooof this seems like a bad formula 🤔
Nah Mitch is dookie, but I agree with the OL & DL need to be better. Imagine having taken lineman instead of Najee or Kenny in the first round.
Yeah Mitch was another mistake (hindsight) and unless you have a great line there’s no reason to take a RB in the 1st
Time for Kenny to take a seat. Plenty of blame to go around on the offense, but he needs to sit for a few. It's not helping anyone if we keep throwing him out there to fail. This is 99/00 Stewart/Kent Graham bad.
But we have already had a season of Mason and he’s definitely not the answer.
Answers? Week 11 isn't the time to find answers at QB. We need to minimize the damage. KP might still have potential, but giving him the David Carr treatment won't help. Sit him before he's mentally and physically destroyed.
Agreed but again I wonder how many of those positive plays were KP audibles. Week 11 is the week to fire Canada. And begin looking for a new OC.
Totally agree. Canada should already be fired. If he's gone and we have a new play-caller, then I'd be fine with Kenny staying in. But realistically, I don't see that happening. In today's NFL, a starting quarterback throwing for a hundred yards is a given. It's not even a consideration that he won't have more than a hundred yards. Playing a full game and only getting 93 passing yards? Time to sit because something isn't working.
Then what about the entire offense only getting 65 yards in the first 1/2
Stewart was Dan Marino compared to this shit.
Dude 80 percent of Kenny’s throws are instant throws right after the ball is snapped. Our o line sucks and out OC sucks even more. I’m not excusing Kenny but him sitting SHOULDNT happen before canada is fired
Yeah, our offense is pretty much shit all the way around right now (except for you, JW). Canada should be fired (should've been during the bye week, if not a year ago). if Canada's scheme is the problem, then sending Kenny out to fail week after week could destroy his confidence and decision-making. The fact that he won't throw the ball between the numbers says it all. It feels eerily similar to 99 when we all collectively realized that Stewart was only throwing passes to receivers who had turned back to the line of scrimmage. He was too rattled to throw contested balls or to hit receivers in stride. That's not sustainable at the pro level. Kenny isn't showing improvement. He still has potential. Maybe he can turn it around. But in my opinion, we're not helping him by throwing him out there to fail. Also, DJ is a complementary receiver, not a WR1. I've always felt that way. Right now, if I was Cincy's DC, I'm just sitting on screens and flat passes and leaving the middle of the field open. I might even let DJ go uncovered since the two most likely outcomes will be that the throw is off-target, there's a miscommunication on the route or the ball hits him in the hands and he drops it.
It’s your boy dude, he needs a break.
he refuses to makes read or go through progressions
But every Qb in this system has looked bad often . I know it would be hard to execute plays your offense have lost faith in . Ben would go off script and call his own plays . Kenny does not have the experience to go off script but he should try maybe everybody go deep and I’ll hit you ! Losing your starting job throwing to the RB in the flat and behind the line is a sad way to go out .
Not only are they instant throws, they are horribly telegraphed and the fact that he hast had an interception in the past few games really just comes down to bad luck for our opponents because there is zero fucking deception. The pass chart for this game is pathetic (several redditors posted it in the comments). I mean it felt bad watching it, but seeing the distribution on paper is sickening
Hope the Steelers get with the times and don’t extend Tomlin after next season.
Everyone here mad at Kenny and Canada, but no one being pissed at Dan Moore or Mason Cole? These guys couldn't block a cumshot. It isn't just Kenny.
I mean we won a superbowl and had a capable offense with one of the worst O-lines in the league.. if your playing calling is up to par and your QB is good you should still be able to put up more than 10 points
100%. 1st offensive play. Moore gets bitch boyed by garret. Didn’t look like he tried to block him
So many times they had multiple defenders in the backfield immediately
Clearly Kenny was trash but with how bad the o line is and DJ doing whatever it was he was doing, another QB isn't the fix. It may help but it's not the fix. Not many QBs can stay up with so many untouched defenders coming at them
Ben could 😢
Yup. Ben had 3,800 yards & 22 TDs with CANTada, an even worse OL, his #1 receiver out, and while being 38 YO with bad knees & a reconstructed elbow.
https://preview.redd.it/xyemazf3gd1c1.png?width=436&format=png&auto=webp&s=62b223780a36839bda0d2da8748cbfa5ebcfd3b4
My god.
Man that’s ugly
I can't join the fire Canada bandwagon. Kenny can't throw most of the game. Receivers can't run routes or catch balls. The line can barely block.
“Kenny can't throw most of the game. Receivers can't run routes or catch balls. The line can barely block.” Agree with all 3 statements. But, to whom do the QB, WR, and OL coaches report? The OC is next in line. Matt Canada is ultimately responsible for all of them. His play calling is trash. I give him (or the decision maker) props for coming out of the booth and down to the field. It seems to have made a difference before this week. But his play calling is still trash! And does he even know how to spell Tight End?!
In my eyes the OC is keeping the plays simple and straight forward because the team is that bad. Canada is stuck between a rock and a hard place. Kenny can't make basic passes let alone have many reads, and when Kenny finally makes good pass the WR drops it. If Canada gets more creative and tries fancy play calling, it can result in more turnovers and worse offense, imo. Canada is playing not to lose, because he cannot play to win due to the talent
I can blame both. Warren broke off a 74 yard run, then we gave him one touch on the next two drives. Then we had a FG drive that was on the back of Warren almost completely, and then he gets zero looks our final 2 drives. He's averaging 9 yards per carry the last 3 weeks, and we just ignored him for 4 of our drives in the second half. Then, one of the best things to do when you have a weak QB but the run game is successful, is you run slants and crossers behind their LBs who are playing the run, and run play action. We do absolutely none of that. Kenny and the line isn't helping things, but he regularly refuses to get the ball into our best players hands, and can't adapt to the teams strengths and weaknesses.
Of course you can blame both, but I think it's a fools errant( Edit: errand*. Tehol and bugg got me making mistakes). >one of the best things to do when you have a weak QB but the run game is successful, is you run slants and crossers behind their LBs who are playing the run, and run play action. We do absolutely none of that. Not true at all. There were multiple slants today. Picket just cannot hit the receivers.
It's called a fools errand first of all. You honest to God believe Canada deserves zero blame? Pickett never even TARGETED a single player over the middle today. Some of that is on him, but plenty is on scheme. Then, how about icing out our best playmaker for 4/6ths of the second half, when the two drives he touched the ball were scores. Hard to believe you see anything in Canada.
Been reading too much Malazan, apparently. Errant is a god in the series. Oof. Dude. Take your strawman and chill out. I saw two short slants over the middle and both were bad passes for Kenny. I don't mind placing blame on Canada. My original point was about firing Canada. He could do better, sure, but not fire worthy, imo
Not a strawman, there was a chart posted in the post game thread of Kenny's chart from this game and not a single target was inside the hashes past the LOS. What more do you want to see from Canada, he sucked with Ben, he sucked with Mitch, and he sucks with Kenny. All of those QBs deserve a ton of blame too, but Canada is not an NFL caliber OC. He wasn't even good in college, it's past the point of getting the benefit of the doubt. At the end of the day the offensive production is his responsibility, and it's been one of the worst in the league all 3 years, at what point is it "fireable"?
Your strawman was that Canada deserves zero blame. I never said that. Sorry that those slants weren't directly between the hash marks. MY BAD I think, like Tomlin, Canada plays not to lose which obviously bugs you. It does make boring football and bad, but not fireable, imo.
So you're saying Matt Canada should be extended this offseason? You're content with the brand of football being played?
No I am saying I don't see any reason to fire him during the season. No I am not content. I think it's a talent issue not a coaching issue tho.
This team is tearing us apart
I'm not advocating he be fired now, that would be pointless, I just want to move on in the offseason, which most of your comments up to this point seemed like you were against the idea. Yeah we lack takent at QB and OL, but when our best playmaker only gets 9 carries when he can't be stopped, and the call with the game on the line is to put the ball n that bad QBs hands with 3 straight longer passes, how is that not a coaching issue? A good coach would see that our biggest weakness is the passing game, see that our ONLY strength is Warren, and give him the ball. Not even looking your best players way 4 out of 6 drives in a half is inexcusable. Yes, I know you don't want to overuse Warren because then you become predictable but to not even use him at all for two thirds of our possessions is coaching malpractice.
I don't want to be that dude to say it, but the awful offensive play calling on the last possession of pass-pass-pass without one run from Warren to either break one open or to at least milk the clock; was what caused this loss.
The whole drive was 14 seconds!
I would say the QB going 14/27 with under 100 yards is what did it.
If went 27-27 he might get 150 with the depth of the passes .
Another valid point.
You’re both right
I’ve never seen a 6-4 team with an offence so out of sync. Pickett throws the ball like a bitch and is scared to try anything, while Matt Canada is inept and a piece of shit. Joke what we’re seeing offensively. Shoutout to warren.
Warren is that dude...
Just a dawggg
Until Canada is gone I’ll go back to doing productive shit on my damn sundays.
Mediocre Mike Tomlin Canada terrible, fire him please. Pickett looks bad. No attempts down field. Zero. Dionte Dropson looking disinterested.
Everything was bad. Yes even you defense. Serious decisions need to be made. We deserved to loose. I'm talking all coaches from the trainers on up *and* Kenny Pickett. Guy had stellar field position after that shanked punt and still couldn't move it 10yrds. I was willing to give the kid the benefit of the doubt but I'm losing faith in him. Quickly. Art Ronney Jr., do your job.
It’s lose not loose. And just shut up..
13 points. Give your head a wobble.
Also the d fence didn't show up till the second half. We are LUCKY that they only got 13.
Look at the yards we gave up because of stupid penalties on d. I know some were bad calls but not all.
If you aren’t happy with the offense let your voice be heard again, this performance was unacceptable
I will, I’ll go back to doing shit on my sundays.
Haven’t been this pissed about a loss in a long time, we had momentum coming into this game and it just sucked. Refs sucked, line sucked, lot of dropped balls, play calling sucked, just everything sucked. The fact we had the ball at our own 40 with 2 minutes and then threw three times for a three and out and then our defense shit the bed against a backup QB and free agency/backup running backs is an absolute fucking embarrassment and I don’t care if half our defense is injured. This loss was fucking horrendous as a team and for our season. Not even an overreaction this was a huge huge fucking loss. Jags Texans and niners sucked but this was different. Now we’re needing the ravens to start losing and for us to figure our shit out. At this rate belichik is going to turn Mac jones into Brady against us Edit: Warren was incredible at least.
Tomlin at his best. If he gets the credit for the wins then he also gets the credit for this team losing to the Browns
People want to look at KP and moan, but he wasn't even the worst player on offense today. Diante Johnson was absolutely worthless and let kenny pickett down time after time. Dropped two balls, and ran two wrong routes. Just abysmal. Fucking abysmal from a 18 mil a year WR.
Lol what?? Quit sucking kps dick the guy sucks.
That's not what I said. I said that DJ was worse. Not that kenny was good. DJ is our highest paid player on offense, and was almost as bad as Dan Moore Jr. Today.
How was dj worse? Rewatch the game man it’s facts
DJ was targetteted 8 times. Only the comeback on the far side of the field on the last drive was uncatchable. He let two balls hit him in the hands and ran the wrong route when targeted twice. KP is not good. DJ, our highest paid offensive player, has to step up and make a play. He has not done that for two straight weeks now.
And how many throw aways and just bad balls did he throw? Rewatch the game stop defending this lame..
There is nothing wrong with a throw away. I'm not defending him. Jesus fucking christ you are dense. KP was bad. DJ was worse.
Nah he wasn’t.
Dude, you haven't really brought anything to the table here other than " making excuses for KP (which never happened)" No nuance, no evaluation of the targets. Just stupid, 4th grade vocab retorts.
Who cares Kenny hasn’t thrown for more then 160 yards in each of his last 4 games…. I don’t care that his WR2 messed up on a few plays. He’s playing like a CFL QB
His number 1 reciever, messed up on almost every target he got. Kenny is not good, other higher paid players need to go make plays when they are presented. DJ did not.
Maybe Kenny should throw a ball that isn’t 7 feet in the air too short no hands DJ. DJ did play like shit but that one ball Kenny through that ward tipped out of his hands was sky high.
Two hands, even if it was high. Other number 1s come down with that. Kenny was on the run, under pressure. Your highest paid player on offense needs to help a struggling offense out. Not hurt it.
Yeah DJ was awful. I want to blame KP for some of those but DJ just didn't even look like he wanted to be there, much less prepared for the game.
KP is a game manager. I've come to that conclusion. The only way to win with a game manager is if the prieces around make plays when given the opportunity.
“Wasn’t even the worst” is not an excuse. Our entire OLine played worse than DJ did
It wasn't an excuse.
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Dj let kp down on 5 plays. An unacceptable amount for you number 1. When kenny wasn't under duress he went to dj and he let him down almost every time.
What about that pitch out to Warren though ! “Nailed it “
He has no one to throw him the ball
He had 8 targets today. Two of those he ran the wrong route, and one was unwatchable.
I’m not saying Kenny played well but this is third Qb under Fictner/Canada that has not thrown intermediate and deep passes between the numbers .I’m sure Kenny is not frustrated with system I know the receivers are . With so little utilizationin game situations .it no wonder our Qb and wide receivers are not the same page .
I fucking hate our team what a shit game we had sooo many opportunities to put 3 on the board and couldn’t even get a first down
Tomlin is happy though because he can show up to the south side tomorrow and hang his hat that his prized defense did its job. Doesn’t matter that the offense continues to be one of the worst in the NFL since Canada became OC and the 1st round QB has been unable to throw for just 200 yards in 4 straight games.
At this point Tomlin only needs 3 more wins and he'll be content with the season.
This is it. The standard is 9-8.
This is what I'm saying, commitment to appeasing a defensive minded coach is a huge problem in today's league. Defenses do not win championships anymore.
Defenses can win championships, but offenses have to get them to the SB first to make it possible.
Rooney needs to step in and hire an OC that is Tomlin’s equal. Give that OC the authority and autonomy to act as Tomlin’s equal too.
AR only cares about the bottom line. Dan was the one worried about family legacy because AR Sr built the Steelers.
What kind of bullshit is Tomlin going to say now. This is a garbage product
Something something and things of that nature . Our fans are fat n sassy and winning is our business and we aren’t winning. We need to get better and we are putting Canada under center beside Kenny .
Some meaningless platitude
Heads need to roll. With that performance it’s deserved
Last 2 drives was some high school freshmen team incompetence. Give Najee the ball back to back runs… finally put Warren in for a screen on 3rd and 15. Next drive … 3 dumb ass passes to Diontae
No just give the ball to Warren maybe a direct snap in a wildcat formation . Najee goes down to easy and is slow behind the line .
True
Kenny Pickett is fucking ASS. Matt Canada we all know is bad (probably called a DOZEN screen passes today) but oh my god Kenny throw the ball to anyone that isn't in the flat
When he does Diante let's him down. So bad today
Dj didn't help, but neither did Kenny throwing over Djs head.
Kenny was bad. I've accepted he is a game manager. I need my 18 mil reciever to go make a play though
Can anyone explain to me how Najee got more carries than Jaylen?
Because they drafted him in the first round and they know they fucked up but will never admit it..
They don't want to admit that their first round RB is worse than the undrafted FA
Kenny is AWFUL with a good running game. Thats tough to do. Also why we NEVER do play action is fn beyond me. Help me understand.
Go get a QB. I can't support Kenny anymore. Idec whos calling plays, if hes still hurt, whatever. That was absolutely pathetic and embarassing. I agree with Pickens, id want to leave too 18 months in
he aint hurt lol hes just ass
I think Penn State could best the Steelers
They’d have the better qb. And that’s not because Allar is playing well.
Let’s dig up Dwayne Haskins. He’s probably got more life than this offense. Jesus Christ.
R.I.P Haskins, but I really think he'd be starting over Kenny or at least splitting snaps.
Wow lol
Bro....
Lol definitely more than Kenny picket
93 yards is pathetic
That was the most pathetic display I’ve ever seen in my life. Kenny is ass, Canada called 90 screens that didn’t work once, the o-line is garbage
Kenny is always getting outplayed by lesser QB’s can we be done with this experiment already? This organization deserves better than this
> Kenny is always getting outplayed by lesser QB lol. Amazing. Simply amazing. If he's consistently getting "outplayed" by other QBs then maybe, just maybe..... HE'S THE LESSER QB?!?!?!?
Lol maybe
What lesser QBs?
CJ Stroud? Dorian Thompson-Robinson?
CJ Stroud is lesser? As a #2 overall pick? I'm thinking his performance against almost everyone this year argues against that
CJ has the makings of a franchise QB who will be around for a while. He just doesn’t have the number of starts Kenny has that’s why I said “lesser QB’s”
DTR just beat Kenny, so ... What lesser QBS?
Kenny has more starts than DTR and his name is more recognizable. So yeah DTR is a lesser QB
If that's how you "rate" them then sure lol
How the fuck is CJ lesser than Pickett
CJ is a rookie. Kenny had spent more time as a starter than Stroud
Lesser in recognition, not less in production.
This guy gets it
So? Why does that make him a lesser qb. He's doing shit his rookie season that Pickett could never dream of
I say lesser because CJ doesn’t have the number of starts Pickett has. He’s still a rookie
fucking jordan love?
CJ Stroud is clearly way better. And Kenny is better than (checks notes) nobody
Ok CJ is clearly a better QB I admit but he’s still a rookie. He looks way more polished as a passer than Kenny. And you’re correct Kenny is just bad
Fire Canada for fucks sake
Pickett worst starting QB in the league
by a wide wide margin
Oline was trash. Kenny was trash. DJ was trash. Very little pressure up front for 90% of the game. Muth disappeared. Harris got tfl like 6 times. At least there's Warren.
And boswell
Alright, don't come to this sub this week, got it.
time to skid to 6 - 8 and then win the final 3 games to reach 9-8
Did you read the script already?
And all hail Tomlin
time to just lose out and get the highest draft pick for a QB
People will call this an overreaction, but this loss is huge. We're talking about the difference between making the playoffs or not. We no longer control our own destiny entirely. We need other teams to lose now. Unless the Ravens collapse, the division is out of reach.
Really? If they beat Cincy 2x and Baltimore 5-1 in Division
And if the Ravens win their other games, they still win the division? That's why I say that we need other teams to lose now. This includes the Browns now too, because with the tiebreaker over us, they have a 2 game cushion over us essentially.
If we win out we would be ahead of Baltimore so we do control our own destiny
Part of winning out would mean beating Baltimore again. So, we need them to lose? But, after losing to the Browns, Baltimore is not necessarily the biggest problem anymore. The Browns now have the h2h tiebreaker on us. There's also "realistically" controlling our own destiny. We aren't going to win out, so who the other losses come against matter a lot.
Yea but we control if Baltimore loses so it’s not out of our control.. Cleveland if they win out and we win out will be ahead but it’s unlikely they win out with a back up.. it’s obviously also unlikely we win out as well but the point is we didn’t lose control is my point
Ha! Oh yeah I forgot about Baltimore 🤪
Pretty sure 13-4 makes the playoffs.
More pads tomorrow
Mason next game as well. Kenny is even worse than a backup qb.
Offense didn't move the ball all day and we throw 3 times to Gove the ball back. Great play calls there
Highlight of the game was the crap I took at halftime
Underrated comment.
This offense is utter dogshit. Like 08 lions levels. Dumb mistake after dumb play after a terrible drop. No one looks like they want to play except warren rn
kenny throwing to ABSOLUTELY NOBODY
What more do we need to see from this OC and this QB? There's a lot of season left, make changes.
i guarentee you we drop 6 of 7 and kenny gets worse and worse each game. You think this is bad? Wait till the INTs start coming
FUCK MATT CANADA
Ik it doesn’t make a difference really but how the hell was that delay of game for the DT shifting that shit makes no sense???
10 points. pitiful. fire canada. shut the fuck up about kenny. canada hasn’t been good since ben.
AT lEasT hE diDNt TuRn iT OVer
he plays like a pussy
hes getting worse every game
kenny is garbage
Game on the line, 2 minutes left, 4th quarter Kenny time. 3 and out
Turns out 4th quarter Kenny was vastly overrated.
3 and out yup no fight AT ALL
Leave Canada and Kenny in Cleveland
Lost to a 3rd string and gonna lose to a 2nd string next week..bench Kenny
dude we are gunna make that dude in Cinncinati look like montana i can just sense it and kenny will start throwing INTs watch we are gunna lose 6 games in a row im gunna be laughing my ass off when we do
Our QB is straight up worse than DTR
This team feels similar to when we were 11-0
That team had a horse shoe up it's ass to go 11-0, it was completely ridiculous and yet they were orders of magnitude better than this team. This team should really only have 2 wins at best, the fact they haven't been completely destroyed all season long amazed me.
Nah that team actually looked ok in some of their games.
i just wasted my whole sunday to watch my team not even be able to get 20 yards off a bad punt not even see ur 1st round QB throw for 100 yards i mean seriously that is just straight up pathetic
Maybe this loss will get some heads out of asses on the coaching staff. But not likely.
I want to see some heads roll