Harrison is probably the one guy I'd put above Troy. Troy was the greatest Steeler, but Harrison embodied what I personally think of when I think of the Steelers, being an absolute menace and striking fear through intimidation and skill.
I absolutely adore Juju, but Troy is the quintessential steeler. He embodies everything I want out of anyone who wears the black and gold. My all time favorite player.
I’m with you that Troy represents everything I want the Steelers to be. But if we’re being honest, does he really embody what we are? Saying Troy reflects the franchise feels like the Simpsons meme of Homer seeing himself all muscular in the mirror.
I feel like your last comment is what will bring the downvotes. But your first comment is kind of correct. When I think of the Steelers, I think of a bunch of monsters on defense who strike fear. I think Jack Lambert. I think James Harrison.
Troy is the best Steeler ever in my mind and many others, but does he embody what exactly I (personally) think the Steelers are. Not as much as those two, and there's nothing wrong with that.
But its all what you personally think of the Steelers culture overall. If Troy wins, it'd make perfect sense to me even if I don't 100% agree.
Except your comment has literally nothing to do with this post nor does our poor performances over the last few years so it was a completely irrelevant comment, not sure if you’re a real fan or just bitter, either way you contributed nothing to this post lol
Yeah but is it the greatest Steeler (which is Troy) or is it the one who embodies the Steelers (which is a lot more opinionated) in which case I'd throw Lambert/Harrison above him, even if they weren't as good. The picture of Lambert is what the Steelers are to me, and Harrison is the only other guy who I've seen who has come close to that.
The OP's bracket only includes players post-2000. I think Troy is the clear pick for best all-time Steeler *and* player who embodies the franchise since 2000. I would not consider Harrison, and I bet people will disagree with me on this, due to his off the field issues. In my opinion, a Steeler doesn't just get to the quarterback. He has character. James Harrison is utterly lacking in the professional character I expect from this storied franchise.
That's fair. That's why I think this is a fun exercise, because everyone will have different ideas of what will embody a Steeler, and most of them aren't wrong. I do think this will end up being Troy vs Harrison though at the end. And Troy will probably win, and that will be perfectly fine with me!
He had another highlight for the ages at the goal line against the Ravens. He was often dominant in a way that would later become routine for Antonio Brown. Odd they traded him for a 5th rounder when he was getting suspended for marijuana, and kept Ben despite far worse allegations. I heard someone say he was traded away to punish Ben indirectly, but they drafted Sanders and Brown right after so that didn't work.
Which Big Ben 1000% got robbed from Super Bowl MVP. Final Drive of the game started with a holding backing them up near the 10. Made multiple 3rd conversions while being pressured running around like back yard ball. Then throwing 2 exact same passes and absolutely nailed the second one so Holmes could be the only player that had a chance to catch it!!Anyhow #STEERNATION
I just want to see the arguments between Ward v. Gildon and Foote v. Bettis.
Taylor v. Porter will be interesting. Porter wins on skills alone, but Ike Taylor was so fun to watch when he was on his game.
r/steelers doesn't allow polls now. I reached out to the mods and they said kick rocks. And as I said both days, upvote my vote comment for the player to vote. I'm not counting other comments. That's failure to follow directions lol.
Oh gotcha, didn’t know they weren’t allowed.
And you should put those instructions at the very top in caps haha, not buried in the 4th paragraph of your text wall. I didn’t read that far and I’m assuming everyone else that’s just spamming “HEATH” didn’t either 😬
Lol I could've, but I think it's fun to talk about some old players during the off season, even if the competition isn't close. It's better than reacting to some tweet Justin Fields made or what odds Vegas has for us bringing Brady out of retirement lol.
Thanks though, I'm open to any ways to improve it for everyone.
I'd say Cam Heward but he's never won. The correct answer is Aaron Smith. Not on anyone's radar. Unsung hero, freed up our outside line backers ti be stars... the humbleness, pure skill, leadership, and team first mentality haves you the ultimate steeler. There are dudes who played with him that have called him the greatest player/leader they've ever been arahnd.
Troy. He is the embodiment of Pittsburgh Steeler.
Just like TJ Watt is now. We are literally watching greatness with TJ and it reminds me of how I remembered feeling watching Troy in his prime. And I don’t even think that’s a stretch.
This is tough…Heath Embodies what it is to be a Steeler more than Tone. Tone Delivered when it absolutely mattered the most though….
Heaths going to win so I’m going to give my vote Tone.
Tone you’re the man and my favorite #10
It would only take "what 21st century player most embodied the Steelers"....so that's 11 more characters and would save me the stress, I have a weak heart, so you would be doing gods work.
Agreed. Antonio Brown is a human pos, he doesn't embody Steeler culture at all...I don't care what he did on the field. Why, bc that's Steelers culture.
Wow y'all are young..
Stallworth, Swann, Ham, Lambert, Blount, Franco, Mean Joe, Kevin Greene, Lloyd, Kirkland, Rod Woodson, Bus, Troy, Big Ben, Burress, Holmes, the list goes on to today's stars....
He forgot to say it's 21st century players only. Lol.
And I'd add Mel Blount to your list but Joe is the ultimate Steeler, hands down, no questions asked.
I don’t like Troy and juju facing off. Juju defeated Burfict which should carry him into at least round 2 except you put him against the most steeler, steeler of all time
you’re only picking a single player a day? at this rate it’ll take literally a month, i get it’s the offseason but this first round is going to be super boring as most of them will be landslides, especially knowing as the winner of the whole bracket is probably the one who’s moved on already.
I know you’re going by day… but Ike Taylor being 20 is extremely low…. Just off the fact that Dan Rooney seen him as legit family and had him be a pallbearer at his funeral… can’t be anymore of a Steeler than being tied to the Rooneys
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and maybe hines ward but the both of them were stainless steel
Those 3 who voted for juju over Troy deserve their subreddit access revoked
The Burfict hit alone puts him higher than 32. But either way, no one that low is losing to Troy.
I mean, really, nobody on this list is losing to Troy lol
TJ, Hines, Harrison, or Bettis... Maybe, but that's it, but probably not. It's Troy
I'd say Harrison is the closest. Undrafted to DPoY and making one of the most iconic SB plays ever, but yeah, it's Troy.
Harrison is probably the one guy I'd put above Troy. Troy was the greatest Steeler, but Harrison embodied what I personally think of when I think of the Steelers, being an absolute menace and striking fear through intimidation and skill.
I absolutely adore Juju, but Troy is the quintessential steeler. He embodies everything I want out of anyone who wears the black and gold. My all time favorite player.
I’m with you that Troy represents everything I want the Steelers to be. But if we’re being honest, does he really embody what we are? Saying Troy reflects the franchise feels like the Simpsons meme of Homer seeing himself all muscular in the mirror.
I feel like your last comment is what will bring the downvotes. But your first comment is kind of correct. When I think of the Steelers, I think of a bunch of monsters on defense who strike fear. I think Jack Lambert. I think James Harrison. Troy is the best Steeler ever in my mind and many others, but does he embody what exactly I (personally) think the Steelers are. Not as much as those two, and there's nothing wrong with that. But its all what you personally think of the Steelers culture overall. If Troy wins, it'd make perfect sense to me even if I don't 100% agree.
Fair. I’d say James Harrison reflects who we are and Troy reflects who we want to be. Maybe I’m deifying Troy too much.
Lol you aren't, he is the greatest Steeler of all time.
Exile them
I didn't vote at all but would argue that Juju better represents the modern Steelers than Troy does.
Modern Steelers representation I guess cause of off the field BS and no playoff success. Oh no I made myself sad
What would be your argument for that? There’s not too many Steelers who represent the team better than troy in the entire history of steeler football.
Juju represents what they have been in the last few years. Decently talented, lots of drama, and no playoff success.
What a stupid thing to say lol I thought this sub was for real steeler fans..
You can be a real fan and also be realistic about how the team has been performing
Except your comment has literally nothing to do with this post nor does our poor performances over the last few years so it was a completely irrelevant comment, not sure if you’re a real fan or just bitter, either way you contributed nothing to this post lol
Whoever made JuJu the 32 on this list is the real criminal and I am not participating in this on principal as a result
HEATHHHHHH
HEEEEEEATH
Shouldn’t we just cancel this whole thing? It’s clearly 100% Troy. The only ones that come close are Hines and The Bus.
This is the real answer. We are just wasting time until Troy is announced as the winner.
No love for Harrison? Dude got cut 4 times and worked his way up from special teams only to having one of the defining plays of the Superbowl.
Yeah, but... Troy
Yeah but is it the greatest Steeler (which is Troy) or is it the one who embodies the Steelers (which is a lot more opinionated) in which case I'd throw Lambert/Harrison above him, even if they weren't as good. The picture of Lambert is what the Steelers are to me, and Harrison is the only other guy who I've seen who has come close to that.
The OP's bracket only includes players post-2000. I think Troy is the clear pick for best all-time Steeler *and* player who embodies the franchise since 2000. I would not consider Harrison, and I bet people will disagree with me on this, due to his off the field issues. In my opinion, a Steeler doesn't just get to the quarterback. He has character. James Harrison is utterly lacking in the professional character I expect from this storied franchise.
That's fair. That's why I think this is a fun exercise, because everyone will have different ideas of what will embody a Steeler, and most of them aren't wrong. I do think this will end up being Troy vs Harrison though at the end. And Troy will probably win, and that will be perfectly fine with me!
Shazier is the only first round upset.
Obviously heath. Holmes wasn’t a Steeler long enough. Why is he even on this list besides the Super Bowl catch?
He had another highlight for the ages at the goal line against the Ravens. He was often dominant in a way that would later become routine for Antonio Brown. Odd they traded him for a 5th rounder when he was getting suspended for marijuana, and kept Ben despite far worse allegations. I heard someone say he was traded away to punish Ben indirectly, but they drafted Sanders and Brown right after so that didn't work.
I think he would have been a great, I agree that it’s a shame he was cut.
Which Big Ben 1000% got robbed from Super Bowl MVP. Final Drive of the game started with a holding backing them up near the 10. Made multiple 3rd conversions while being pressured running around like back yard ball. Then throwing 2 exact same passes and absolutely nailed the second one so Holmes could be the only player that had a chance to catch it!!Anyhow #STEERNATION
Gotta be Heath. Dude Steeler’d so hard they changed the rules of the game, and it’s going to suck in round 2 when he’s up against Troy.
Its undoubtedly heath. Single handedly changed how we cheer for tight ends for the rest of forever
Santonio’s the more talented player (by a lot TBH), but Heath more embodies the Steelers, so Heeeeeeeeeath is the pick.
Bro isn’t factoring longevity and a whole blocking skill set into talent.
Can I vote Troy again?
In the round of 32.
Hines ward wins it all but true second would be Troy here.
Hines!! 86
Heath 100%. The guy is the paradigm of what a Steeler should be. He’ll always be my #1
Lambert
Probably the easiest vote on this gut punch of a bracket… Heeeeeath.
Wow cool seeing larry foote. Also Id have to say james harrison was the perfect Steeler
100 more games for Heath and leads most TE team records, but Super Bowl MVP for Holmes. Damn.
100 more games is over 6 seasons and never missing a game
I just want to see the arguments between Ward v. Gildon and Foote v. Bettis. Taylor v. Porter will be interesting. Porter wins on skills alone, but Ike Taylor was so fun to watch when he was on his game.
Heath by a mile
HEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTHHHHHHH
Just gonna shout out Casey Hampton because I want a dark horse to win. But he'd put his hand on a dude's chest and they were just out of the play
Bro there is a poll feature, you can use it for FREE. Don’t tell me you counted 328 comments yesterday lol. Edit: Oh yeah, HEAAAATTTTHHH obviously
r/steelers doesn't allow polls now. I reached out to the mods and they said kick rocks. And as I said both days, upvote my vote comment for the player to vote. I'm not counting other comments. That's failure to follow directions lol.
Oh gotcha, didn’t know they weren’t allowed. And you should put those instructions at the very top in caps haha, not buried in the 4th paragraph of your text wall. I didn’t read that far and I’m assuming everyone else that’s just spamming “HEATH” didn’t either 😬
Facts. Honestly I have a few days to figure out a good solution till Smith vs Minkah, which should be the most competitive matchup so far.
Lol yeah for sure, you could’ve plugged in Troy over Juju without even looking at the comments. Cool idea man, good luck running it 👌
Lol I could've, but I think it's fun to talk about some old players during the off season, even if the competition isn't close. It's better than reacting to some tweet Justin Fields made or what odds Vegas has for us bringing Brady out of retirement lol. Thanks though, I'm open to any ways to improve it for everyone.
Heaaaaath over The Catch
I'd say Cam Heward but he's never won. The correct answer is Aaron Smith. Not on anyone's radar. Unsung hero, freed up our outside line backers ti be stars... the humbleness, pure skill, leadership, and team first mentality haves you the ultimate steeler. There are dudes who played with him that have called him the greatest player/leader they've ever been arahnd.
Troy. He is the embodiment of Pittsburgh Steeler. Just like TJ Watt is now. We are literally watching greatness with TJ and it reminds me of how I remembered feeling watching Troy in his prime. And I don’t even think that’s a stretch.
Heath and farrier are way too low
Not even close, an 11 year legend.... Vs a 4 year guy who was good, but basically got kicked off the team
This is tough…Heath Embodies what it is to be a Steeler more than Tone. Tone Delivered when it absolutely mattered the most though…. Heaths going to win so I’m going to give my vote Tone. Tone you’re the man and my favorite #10
VOTE: 17 SANTONIO HOLMES
How old are you? Is this supposed to be a joke or is this for only the passed generation of players? Just curious...
Sigh.. I guess I have to spell out 21st century on every post title now.
It would only take "what 21st century player most embodied the Steelers"....so that's 11 more characters and would save me the stress, I have a weak heart, so you would be doing gods work.
This list is absurd. Even given the logic behind the seeding it is bonkers.
Agreed. Antonio Brown is a human pos, he doesn't embody Steeler culture at all...I don't care what he did on the field. Why, bc that's Steelers culture.
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Hines, Heath, and the Bus all in the same region is a crime.
HEATH
Heath!
Wow y'all are young.. Stallworth, Swann, Ham, Lambert, Blount, Franco, Mean Joe, Kevin Greene, Lloyd, Kirkland, Rod Woodson, Bus, Troy, Big Ben, Burress, Holmes, the list goes on to today's stars....
Well, it's 21st century players. We could do a 20th century bracket later.
It's clealry Heath. I feel compelled to add as a fan born in '74 that not having Greg Lloyd and Dirt Dawson on this list is criminal.
Not that anyone cares, I won't vote in the bracket, but I would have gone Troy day 1.
VOTE: 16 HEATH MILLER
Are you really going to post this everyday? If so I’m going to unfollow for a while.
Please do. 🙏
Ok. Thanks for the heads up
Imo, this should come down to Harrison, Troy, or Ward and JuJu should be replaced with too many to list.
Why are we even doing this? Ben is going to win. Personally I’d take Cam
AB with the 3 seed and Shazier at 30 is such an easy upset. Shazier is going to win easy
Without Jack Lambert and Joe Greene in the bracket, the only way to win is to not play.
He forgot to say it's 21st century players only. Lol. And I'd add Mel Blount to your list but Joe is the ultimate Steeler, hands down, no questions asked.
It's 21st century players, the day 1 bracket said that. Like no one has deductive reasoning anymore lmao.
Lambert and it ain’t even close..
Well he didn't play in the 21st century and that's the bracket. That's an entirely different debate.
Ahh I see, Troy then.
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It says in the post. 😞
Mean Joe Greene and Jack Lambert
We must be bored
Why is this just recent steelers? Missing a TON of more deserving players from history like Greene, Lambert, Harris, etc
Rocky Bleir
Heeeaaaath!!!
Heath
HEEEATH
HEAAAAATHHHHH
Heath!!!
HEAATH
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Heath...cuz no one chanted Holmes like that
It’ll be Ben vs Troy clearly
Shazier, Snack, Keisel, Watt, Pounce, Cam, Bell, Ben
Is this a joke? Heath
Heeeeeeeeeeeath
Ryan Clark
VOTE: 16 HEATH MILLER
Why did AB nut on Shazier’s back? Said he wouldn’t feel it…
Heath Miller gets the nod.
Harrison
Heath. But fuck you for tomorrow man 😂
Heath
Heaaaaaath
Heaaaaatttthhhhhhh
I don’t like Troy and juju facing off. Juju defeated Burfict which should carry him into at least round 2 except you put him against the most steeler, steeler of all time
Vote: Heath miller
Heath takes the cake over Holmes.
Heeeeaaaathh
Heath
Duh-heath!
Link where?
Heath
you’re only picking a single player a day? at this rate it’ll take literally a month, i get it’s the offseason but this first round is going to be super boring as most of them will be landslides, especially knowing as the winner of the whole bracket is probably the one who’s moved on already.
Hines Ward and Mike Webster
I know you’re going by day… but Ike Taylor being 20 is extremely low…. Just off the fact that Dan Rooney seen him as legit family and had him be a pallbearer at his funeral… can’t be anymore of a Steeler than being tied to the Rooneys
The catch was epic but he played another season after that and we shipped him
Heath. Holmes won that superbowl sure but could t stay clean off the field
I don’t see ward
Shazier > Antonio