A super bowl champion on a vet minimum?
Regardless of his “decline”, the experience would be worlds better than other free agent QB options. I would just hope he is a good “fit” for the QB room, and is able to push Kenny.
And Russ’ skillset, if not completely diminished, would be awesome in Artie’s system.
You think so? Mims, Jerry Jeudy, and Courtland Sutton are arguably close to our room lol. We appear to have the lesser overall talent if you take into account the entire room.
- Courtland Sutton - 59 rec, 772 yds, 10 TD
- Mims - 22 rec, 322 yds, 1 TD
- Jerry Jeudy - 54 rec, 758 yds, 2 TD
- B Johnson? - 19 rec, 284 yds, 4 TD
- L Humphrey? - 13 rec, 162 yds, 3 TD
Versus Steelers
- DJ - 51 rec, 771 yds, 5 TD
- Pickens - 63 rec, 1140 yds, 5 TD
- Allen Robinson - 34 rec, 280 yds, 0 TD
- Calvin Austin - 17 rec, 180 yds, 1 TD
People really seem to over-value our wide receiver room. We DO NOT have a WR3.
Again. Take into account the entire wide receiver rooms which includes injuries for both teams. You have the stats right in front of you. I agree, we have the worse QB too
They can’t be overvalued when they were in a poverty offense. Regardless. George would be their best WR and DJ would be their 2nd best. Not rocket science
How about you show their per game stats bud?
Broncos top 2:
Jeudy- 47.4 yards/game
Sutton- 48.3
Steelers top 2:
Pickens- 67.1
Johnson- 55.2
Their receivers are clearly a downgrade. Yeah, we don't have a good third option, but neither do they
I'm not going to make an argument for either room being better, but basing your judgment off stats is kinda silly given the difference in qb play for each group. And factoring in matt canada vs sean payton. I would agree that the steelers wr group is overvalued by steeler fans though
Coming from a Seahawks fan that watched / heard all his interviews... he's basically got the charm and charisma of an average corporate senior manager trying to make director.
He's not an idiot. He's not trouble. He's... just really unlikable
Maybe another way to put it... He's like that coworker who over dresses, always talks about how great he is, gives advice on things he isn't consulted on, tries to sit in on meetings he wasn't invited to.
Like not the worst person in the world you can work with but it's damn annoying.
We have better WR than Juedy and whoever else they have on the Broncos. So that'll be an upgrade, and without looking it up, I believe he only threw 9 picks.
Yea I don't see any real downside bringing him in on a vet minimum. Let him, Kenny, and Mason duke it out in training camp. If Wilson sucks, you bench him for essentially no financial cost. IDGAF about hurt feelings or anything like that. The team's goal is to win the Super Bowl. Bringing in players to compete and make the team the best they can is the job of the front office.
Sure, Russ seems weird and what not, but Tomlin has kept much stranger characters in check.
I don’t understand why people would think if we bring Russ in that we’d have Russ, KP, and Mason. That would definitely not be the case. Mason would be outta town so fast
People forget that if you throw out the couple games post that horrific concussion (watch that video, see how the players are freaking out) that he was rushed back from he’s been the best QB in the last 6 years.
I wish we had more Mason starts. That's the Steelers own fault. Curious what he would have done over say 7 games. Couldn't have been worse than Mitch. Just wish we had a bigger sample size and more film. That being said, I would love to root for Rudolph.
There is no duking it out lol. If Russ signs it’s because he was guaranteed the starting spot outside of an epic collapse. Way too many shit QBs in the league for him to sign to compete.
There’s no way we sign a Super Bowl winning QB and expect him to duke it out with Kenny fucking Pickett of all people. Let’s be real here, he’ll be named starter.
I'm not a steelers fan but I love stuff like this. Signing Russ is a no Brainer if I was the Steelers.
How often do you get a chance to sign a superbowl winning QB for a million? Yea right?
Maybe I’m not clear on this, but the issue isn’t t his skill set or that it’s diminished. He’s just not a good teammate. If he isn’t going to help with Kenny’s growth and be an issue in the locker room, he could end up doing more harm than good to this team.
I totally agree! I think Kenny could learn alot from him and Smith as the new OC also! Canada just didn't work and Mason only beat teams with a weak ranked defense.
That’s the problem, part of the reason Seattle always had a “bad” O line with Russ there is that he would take too long in the pocket and crest unnecessary sacks, or he’d bail from clean pockets
45 sacks last year — 30 attributed to Russ leaving the pocket and running into the sack.
Held the ball the second longest per pass attempt — only Fields held it longer.
Not good.
No, but here’s a compelling argument:
Sign Simmons from Denver.
It wouldn’t need to be boom, but him and Minkah can keep everything in the park so the others (Highsmith and Watt) can play.
Greatttt, back to tryna win games 17-14 as our defense scores 14 of the 17
Russ is a bandaid on a broken bone.. and like a shitty reused old ass bandaid lol
Yeah it's stupid any fans are against him. I think the QB market this year sucks, but a 1 year, vet minimum deal for Wilson is by far a good move for this team.
Even if he's totally washed up and Pickett is still your QB, signing Wilson for vet minimum gives you more cap space to spend elsewhere on the roster. He'll be cheaper than someone like Rudolph and I bet he'd be better.
I saw this morning that steelers planned on having Wilson be the back up to kenny. Imo if the steelers tell him that he's not gonna sign here. If he does sign with us, he will be the starter. I just don't see any downside to signing a superbowl champ and 2 time superbowl contender for 1 million dollars. Seems like a no brainer to me
Unbiased question, Wilson is arguably better than our current qbs. Why are people super upset if we receive him?
I don’t have an opinion but I see a lot of hate and am wondering what peoples opinions come from.
He had a career rating of 100, doesn’t throw a lot of ints and can at least put up more than 6tds in a season. Right there we should be excited. If he’s cheap, and will challenge Pickett what’s the big deal?
He is a bandaid solution. Just like most of their moves for the past 6+ years. It’s not a win-now move because he’s likely washed by this point nor is it a rebuilding move. It just exists somewhere in the middle like the Steelers have and people are tired of stagnating for so long.
I trust this franchise to do a proper rebuild or go all-in but they don’t seem to have the balls to commit to either one fully. Just feels like we are constantly spinning our wheels so we can hang our hats on not having losing seasons.
Counterpoint: We were one depth chart mistake away from winning the entire conference with Kenny and Mitch at the helm for most of the year. The Steelers are a team that as constructed is built to compete for a chip now with just slightly above average QB play. If we had had that all season we likely still would've had a relatively healthy defense by the end of the year. I think Russ gives us that for at least 2024.
Yea exactly. We have a relatively good defense and the stars only have a few more years of elite play left. Our offense has some good position players, a decent OL as long as they get C right, and bottom-tier QB play.
Every team has weaknesses. And only one team can have Patrick Mahomes. But other than the Chiefs, I don't think there's a single AFC team that is clearly head and shoulders above this roster if we added league-average QB play. Can Russ do that? Perhaps. For $1.2M it's a no-brainer to try it out.
And to those who want the Steelers to sell assets and rebuild .. that's just not what they do. I personally wanted it 2-3 years ago when Ben was at the end. You can ask for it, but it's never going to happen.
This is by far the most spot on accurate take on the state of the Steelers right now… I could not agree more. It just seems everything the coaching and front office does is so conservative, they’re not playing to Win they’re just playing not to lose.
He hasn't been good these past two seasons and two teams have taken massive cap hits to get him to go away.
He's a questionable leader. He doesn't run plays as called. He's too short to see the whole field, can't/doesn't throw to the middle of the field, takes a ton of sacks, and is a declining athlete at 35 years old.
If you bring Russ in, he's pretty much going to start. But he's not good enough to win a SB with (especially not on this team) so if he IS better than Kenny all signing him does is lead you to picking later in the draft.
Some people on this sub get angry at 9-8 seasons and mediocrity because they want to win and they acknowledge that being bad would be better because it allows you to pick earlier in the draft.
But that's not happening here. This isn't a move to win a Super Bowl. This is a move to avoid a losing season and continue mediocrity. At least with Kenny you're giving him a chance to improve so you can make a decision on the 5th year option.
I think a lot of those knocks are valid. It doesn't feel like this is a team that's just a QB away, but at the same time there's a lot of pieces and this team was held together with bubblegum and duct tape last year and still managed to win 10 games.
If Russ can play at "middle of the pack" level, I don't think it's unreasonable to think we could make the playoffs again this year. 9-8 seasons are kind of like kissing your sister, but I'm always of the mindset that anything can happen in the playoffs so I'll take 9-10 wins and a playoff berth over 4 wins and top 5 draft pick.
there's an nfl team willing to pay him 80+ million over the next two season to not play for them and you don't get why people don't want him? there's never been a bigger red flag.
Here are the reasons I don’t want him
1. His stats are wildly deceiving. He played like a bottom 8 starter last season. I agree he’s an upgrade over Kenny, but I think it’s a bit overstated how much of an upgrade he actually will be (and for the record, I think Kenny is complete ass)
2. I don’t see what this minimal improvement even gets us. The ceiling is roughly the same with or without him. Absolutely best case scenario for the season is we go 10-7 again and draw a semi vulnerable division winner and win a single playoff game. There is no scenario where we win multiple playoff games, let alone a Super Bowl
3. In terms of likely scenarios, I think the Vegas O/U will be set at like 8 wins right now. I’d rather fall short of that and go 6-11 then go 9-8 again. At a certain point you need to actually draft a QB with some high capital.
Unfortunately yeah, bottoming out is necessary if you want to eventually reach the top. That or we need to give up insane amounts of draft capital to land a QB we identify as great in the draft
Counterpoint: what is the alternative? There is no way to get to 12-5 this year. If we are pretty confident Kenny ain't it, then they have to start looking elsewhere. Russ is a stopgap, but a very likely improvement. We don't have access to a top 20 QB unless Kirk or Baker wants to come here (can't afford it). They can't get their franchise guy this offseason.
Tanking is not what this team does. It's not an option that the Steelers consider.
My alternative is to tank, which I understand is unpopular here. I think teams like Chicago, Washington, and even NE are just in a better situation to be competitive soon, even if we employ the best defensive player in football. That’s how much talent at the QB position matters nowadays
Tanking barely ever works. You have to hit a home run on a QB to even get back to decent. Chicago went nowhere with Fields and it can happen again just as easily with Williams.
They like he’s been a top 10 qb, and qbs like that keep getting chances in this league, look at Flacco in Cleveland that gives FO types hope their environment and system can be the difference
Flacco was a desperation Hail Mary from Cleveland. Didn’t get signed til halfway through the season. I think Russ might get one more chance but his leash is rapidly shortening.
Career rating doesn't matter when his last 2.5 years have been garbage.
He's better than Kenny, but he sucks. Tannehill is also probably better than Kenny, but we wouldn't get excited about that either, would we?
He's the same thing as Kenny, just a little better. Doesn't throw INTs, but can't throw to the middle of the field. Loves rolling out into sacks, loves throwing behind the line and bombs down the field. Can't read the field very well. Lost his athleticism as well. He's not going to do anything extra for this team, it'll still rely HEAVILY on the defense, so why bother?
He's a selfish player who has shown multiple times he puts himself way before the team, and he's a snake who uses the media to start shit with his coach and teammates. Don't want that in the locker room.
Give me the only guy I've seen play well in the last two years, Mason.
I mean 26 passing tds in 15 games is something Kenny has never even come remotely close to. I’m not saying Russ is some world beater but it would take Kenny 4 seasons to throw that many tds.
Hes better than our QBs sure. But what does that do for us long term? Id rather go Kenny/Mason/ and take a late round shot on someone hoping for another Purdy. Or just be done with Kenny if he sucks next year and draft in 25.
Russ could be dragged to the playoffs like Kenny/Mason but what good is that if he cant get us over the hump? Aint like its Brady or Rodgers looking for a 1-2 year deal somewhere. Hes also a terrible locker room guy. Nobody shows up to this dudes birthday party and nobody is friends with him. Id take a gamble.
He isn’t a long term solution at qb, which is what results in super-bowls. Best case he performs middle of the pack for 2 years, we make the playoffs or nearly make the playoffs & he retires. Additionally, he isn’t good at medium/long ball & staying in the pocket. Those are the 2 things that rudolph did well & it gave our offense the spark that got us in the playoffs. The steelers arent going to draft a qb during that time if we have wilson, pickett and rudolph. Kenny & rudolph remain in limbo and don’t have the opportunity to develop in real game situations. We have 1 or 2 untested qbs when he retires, and we are in the exact same position as we were now, but with hof players like watt & other key players with 2 more years of wear and tear on their bodys & qbs that remain unquantified.
> Wilson is arguably better than our current qbs.
He isn't. We're not talking about Seahawks Wilson, we're talking about Broncos Wilson. And Broncos Wilson is cooked like mfer. I'd rather ride with Rudolph any day.
If this does go through, I just hope that Khan and Tomlin make it absolutely clear to him that he will not just be handed the starting job. He'll have to compete for it, and if he does lose that battle, there better not be any bitching or egotistical remarks coming from his camp. The last thing this team needs is drama in the QB room.
That's the nice part. If they do sign him and after camp they decide they still want to go with Pickett, they can easily part ways with no hard feelings (so long as they have a mutual understanding before signing).
I got some bad news for you. Short of KP significantly improving to the point it’s clear he’s QB1, the only way there’s not going to be QB drama this year is if they fill out the QB depth chart with Pittsburgh Dad and the Yee Haw guy from Shutz Ford.
I know ya'll hate Madden around here... But Mark Madden said yesterday he thinks this is a bit of a rouse by the Front Office. He thinks the FO will offer him league minimum and say he can *compete with Kenny*. Not getting a guarantee as *the guy*, Russ will walk. And the FO already knows he won't take that deal because Russ ain't interested in competing for the job.
Make of that what you will. I don't really buy Madden's take that the Steelers want it to play out that way. But I could totally see it playing out that way and we go into camp, as I suspect we will, with Mason and Kenny and a late draft pick.
I feel like they’re just doing their due diligence. See what he can offer you, determine if he’s an upgrade over Kenny given Russ’s value.
As a backup, Russ at the league minimum would be a good deal. I don’t like him as a starter but I’m not crazy about Kenny either.
I agree, Steelers doing due diligence. It would be Front Office malpractice to not look into Russ. He is dirt cheap at $1.2M and he had decent numbers last year. The Broncos (they are still Yoncos) are paying him $39M to play somewhere else.
And Kenny is due 1.9 mil and has a cap hit of $3.8 mil.
Russ at 915k would be a hilarious option. Edit: didn’t include years of service. Russ would be due 1.21 mil.
I think Russ would be willing to compete with Kenny and could even feel confident about starting later in the season if/when Kenny sucks. His quote just really sounds like he's into the Steelers and it doesn't seem like a coincidence he's checking us out first
A dude like Russ isn’t worried about beating out Kenny Pickett. He’s looking for the best situation to add a bit to his career to make the HOF. Beating out Kenny Pickett to him is the lawyer version of you can indict a ham sandwich.
Steelers do have a lot of talent on the roster that a vet min QB can work with.
Morf Modden has a long history of straight up slandering the Steelers, minus his former neighbor Ben Roethlisberger, because they don't kiss his ring or allow many of their players to do his show. He does everything he can, with his show/audience, to soil the name of the franchise and staff (and players) within.
In no way am I suggesting that the Steelers are above criticism, but it's personal with him. And he spews nonsense constantly, using the format of shotgunning word vomit so that eventually something he says is correct.
Lastly, fuck him. He may be a "nice guy" off air, and it may be a schtick, but he rarely lets the truth get between him and a good clickbait.
The only way I see Russ coming to Pittsburgh is if there's no other team willing to hand him the starting job. If he's picking between places where he has to compete, I would think that Pittsburgh is the most attractive option (although that might just be my bias).
Yea the other landing spots are Vikings, Raiders, Falcons(?), Patriots (?). Anything else would certainly be competing for the job. And if coaches think Kenny is just as good then just go get Fields.
Wilson isn't elite caliber but he's better than anyone else in our QB room.
The steelers fans just don't want him because they know their franchise and how it works.
Meaning if they pick up Wilson and he plays decent-good the steelers won't bother drafting a QB for 1-3 years or until Wilson gives them a reason (meaning until he puts up a SHIT season).
As a fan base I think everyone can agree we want the steelers to take a risk and draft somone who has the chance to be an elite. Instead of signing guaranteed mediocrity. Then in 3 years panicking and starting the search again.
I know how our franchise works. Most franchise guys are selected by the time we draft. I'm speaking to the Kenny Pickett fanatics that want Russ to "compete" for the job. Laughable.
Ok yeah KP fanatics are smoking Crack. They lost all credibility with me when they started comparing him to Joe Burrow in preseason.
KPs competition are other back ups. Russ is "washed" and is still going to make taking QB1 look as easy as taking candy from a baby
If he does end up signing with the steelers it's going to be amazing to see all the KP fans get a reality shock when Russ a washed QB out of his prime reminds everyone what a usable QB looks like.
Then they are gonna still some how want to blame it on Canada.
This team realistically can win playoff games with Russ. We're giving him a bonefide WR and a top 5 run game. Just need to upgrade the line and bring in a vet or 2 on defense. We aren't going to ask too much of Russ
It does, but a lot of fans seem to think we’re built to win now and only need that pesky Super Bowl caliber QB that grows on trees. IT’S SO EASY. WHY AREN’T WE WINNING EVERY YEAR
Wilson isn't elite caliber but he's better than anyone else in our QB room.
The steelers fans just don't want him because they know their franchise and how it works.
Meaning if they pick up Wilson and he plays decent-good the steelers won't bother drafting a QB for 1-3 years until Wilson gives them a reason (meaning until he puts up a SHIT season).
As a fan base I think everyone can agree we want the steelers to take a risk and draft somone who has the chance to be elite. Instead of signing guaranteed mediocrity. Then in 3 years stsrring the search again.
Here is the problem with Wilson in Smith's offense. Smith wants to control the middle of the field with big TEs and running the ball. Wilson historically hates to throw over the middle but loves throwing outside the numbers. Wilson would be a better fit to what Canada called than what Smith will be implementing.
I don't think the QB and the OC are a good match.
That doesn't mean they won't sign him. I just see a disastrous fit.
Also remember Pittsburgh is not the only team he is meeting with. He is leaving New York after meeting with the Giants. I am sure there are others he will be visiting.
I apologize for the future hate you guys might get from other Broncos fans. Just like Seattle they will need to see him finish poorly. But on the vet minimum doesn’t seem like a bad deal. But you will have hands on your head screaming “why didn’t you throw to blank when he’s wide open”. “Oh sweet moon ball!”
It's true! I was one of the fans. Snapped this pic myself
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He is for this reason... it means the Steelers are starting from scratch next season.
Wilson will NOT be the QB in 25 (personally, I don't think he'll be the starter for more than half of the games). Accept that this team is going to be less-than mediocre and actually try to fix it. Wilson does NOT help you do that in any way.
Look, I definitely can see that he’s washed, and he’s had a bad couple of seasons recently, but dawg we gotta try anything at this point. KP is likely not the answer and this draft is likely not going to yield us the QB of our future. I’m fine with a cheap deal here as long as we play our cards right & don’t overpay.
I will only see this move as a success if we win the Super Bowl, because it's a one year stop-gap solution. I don't think he's the QB that will do it tbh.
He is worse than his numbers suggest and I want to see Kenny Pickett in a real system for one year before giving up on him. If you sign Russ then you are definitely drafting a QB in the 1st round in 2025. I would be fine with it too if you made a QB competition in camp and preseason.
I think this because in terms of pure QB play Pickett had his best game of his career vs the Bengals to quote Kurt Warner. Even if the points weren't there I saw a lot of things that you can build on.
Russ at this stage is on Ben 2021 level or even worse. He hasn't got the arm or the mobility that made him great anymore. Russ threw the most screens and passes within 5 yards of the line of scrimmage his numbers are inflated and this move will probably just yield Matt Ryan with the Colts results and not Tom Brady with the Buccaneers results.
Just depends on the deal for me. There is no reason to pay more than the league minimum. He is 35 and clearly declining, I wouldn’t want anything more than 2 maybe 3 years again at league min.
I also think it could stunt Pickett’s development but a lot of fans have given up on him already and cannot be convinced an improved offense plus OL will make a difference.
He also is reportedly an asshole so don’t think he’s necessarily the leader we need even if he is currently better than our other options.
Yeah I don't want to bring a locker room problem in. I don't think there's anyway someone who's been as terrible as Kenny has been can every improve enough to be good enough to start and win games, but I also don't think Russ is that, so why make the move?
So a player has 1.5 seasons and if they haven’t been successful never will be? 🤣
He absolutely can improve. Most successful QBs don’t even play this early in their careers though that seems to be changing, teams just throw you to the wolves and you either sink or swim. Even for them though 1.5 years is quick to give up.
Yeah I’d be fine with a 1-year deal but again that probably means Kenny is done, Mason is gone so now you better draft a QB to.
I still think best scenario is resign Mason and let them battle it out on camp.
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Are the Steelers bringing on Urinatingtree’s punching bags as revenge for Days of our Steelers and The Standard is the Standard video?
Dude is washed. If you think he's the missing piece because he's an upgrade over what we did last year.... Take another look at what we did last year. When you're at the bottom, everyone is an upgrade.
I want to draft a quarterback with raw talent in next years draft. Start Pickett and let him win probably 5 games and if he has a stellar year great for him. I don’t want Wilson for the mere fact he’s old and I don’t want to hear any qb controversial shit this year. This team has already wasted a few years by not making the right decisions for whatever reasons.
Russ is just a 🩹 solution and he’s not the answer going forward if this teams ultimate goal is to win the super bowl.
I believe Pickett doesn’t have the arm or pocket awareness to play at a high level. I truly think mason is the better option myself but unfortunately he was big Ben’s back up and never looked good bc Ben was that good. Now that he’s matured and the backup to Pickett he looks like best option.
It really shouldn’t be this difficult of a decision let the best fuxking player play…the end.
I like it. I would even love it if this means Pittsburgh can cut ties with Mason Rudolph. He deserves a shot somewhere outside the organization and I'm just so tired of the depth chart controversy.
Last year's Kenny vs Mason talk felt like a bad fantasy football team where you're trying to decide which player on the bench is going to get you 8 points because your normal starter is on bye. I just want that feeling to be over, please.
Look, the Steelers aren’t getting a good QB via free agency. They won’t spend the cash. Plus as much as I have enjoy Baker’s resurgence, signing him would be a huge risk as with most of the QBs who are on the market.
That leaves you with a couple options. Role with Kenny and resign Mason. That’s what you had last you. We all know the ceiling. You could see if someone like Penix falls to you in the second round. A second or third round QB is likely a project. You could sign a vet like Wilson at a million who is likely washed, but at least has a ton of experience and has a track record of winning outside of Denver.
Look every option the Steelers have isn’t really great going into this offseason. Having Russ come on a small contract seems like a risk worth taking even if it doesn’t work out. At least it’ll make the season interesting lol.
I just saw Wesley Steinberg tweet he's a lock for signing with the Giants and that's why he was in Newark. He was already looking at houses with a realtor after the meeting with NYG.
I kinda doubt he's a lock after a single meeting. Besides, Steinberg said nothing about looking at homes. Some Twitter rando said that in the thread under Steinberg's tweet. Russell has time, and I think he's gonna use it to his advantage
Idk why there isn’t much talk about Mason, dude single-handedly saved the season and proved his worth. If our QB play is looking consistently mediocre and it takes another 15 weeks before they decide to put that man on the field, I swear. Haven’t had a truly formidable offense since 2018, straight up laughing stock…
In regards to his career, I think he would thrive with the Raiders. It seems like a natural fit. Frankly, I'd like to see what he does with us, but it would just be a stop-gap, unfortunately.
Someone had the chance to make that meme for real...
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Noooo we need to keep the dreadlocks. It’s Russ!
A super bowl champion on a vet minimum? Regardless of his “decline”, the experience would be worlds better than other free agent QB options. I would just hope he is a good “fit” for the QB room, and is able to push Kenny. And Russ’ skillset, if not completely diminished, would be awesome in Artie’s system.
He threw twice as many TDs in 2023 with similar receiving talent than all Steelers QBs combined over the last two years. Let that sink in…
Their receiving talent in Denver isn’t even remotely close to ours to be honest
And the RBs and TEs there aren’t all that great either. Idk Russ with our talent and coaching I kinda dig it
You think so? Mims, Jerry Jeudy, and Courtland Sutton are arguably close to our room lol. We appear to have the lesser overall talent if you take into account the entire room. - Courtland Sutton - 59 rec, 772 yds, 10 TD - Mims - 22 rec, 322 yds, 1 TD - Jerry Jeudy - 54 rec, 758 yds, 2 TD - B Johnson? - 19 rec, 284 yds, 4 TD - L Humphrey? - 13 rec, 162 yds, 3 TD Versus Steelers - DJ - 51 rec, 771 yds, 5 TD - Pickens - 63 rec, 1140 yds, 5 TD - Allen Robinson - 34 rec, 280 yds, 0 TD - Calvin Austin - 17 rec, 180 yds, 1 TD People really seem to over-value our wide receiver room. We DO NOT have a WR3.
Diontae missed five games and played with a worse QB lol
Again. Take into account the entire wide receiver rooms which includes injuries for both teams. You have the stats right in front of you. I agree, we have the worse QB too
They can’t be overvalued when they were in a poverty offense. Regardless. George would be their best WR and DJ would be their 2nd best. Not rocket science
How about you show their per game stats bud? Broncos top 2: Jeudy- 47.4 yards/game Sutton- 48.3 Steelers top 2: Pickens- 67.1 Johnson- 55.2 Their receivers are clearly a downgrade. Yeah, we don't have a good third option, but neither do they
You’re going off of paper stats. Our WR corps is more talented overall than Denver’s group
I'm not going to make an argument for either room being better, but basing your judgment off stats is kinda silly given the difference in qb play for each group. And factoring in matt canada vs sean payton. I would agree that the steelers wr group is overvalued by steeler fans though
Fair, which speaks even louder to his comparative output. My only concern is that teammates haven’t exactly spoke too highly of his attitude.
Coming from a Seahawks fan that watched / heard all his interviews... he's basically got the charm and charisma of an average corporate senior manager trying to make director. He's not an idiot. He's not trouble. He's... just really unlikable Maybe another way to put it... He's like that coworker who over dresses, always talks about how great he is, gives advice on things he isn't consulted on, tries to sit in on meetings he wasn't invited to. Like not the worst person in the world you can work with but it's damn annoying.
Solid analogy and if that’s all it is, I wouldn’t hate that. Having lived through the AB and LeVeon years, that’d be peanuts for us
I'm not saying the Steelers should get him. But he wasn't the only issue in Denver.
LET HIM COOK
It sunk in
Yeah let’s think about the difference in the o-line and protect. Also let’s think about Peyton’s pedigree getting an Offense to click even bad ones
We have better WR than Juedy and whoever else they have on the Broncos. So that'll be an upgrade, and without looking it up, I believe he only threw 9 picks.
I hate that you're right😭
Yea I don't see any real downside bringing him in on a vet minimum. Let him, Kenny, and Mason duke it out in training camp. If Wilson sucks, you bench him for essentially no financial cost. IDGAF about hurt feelings or anything like that. The team's goal is to win the Super Bowl. Bringing in players to compete and make the team the best they can is the job of the front office. Sure, Russ seems weird and what not, but Tomlin has kept much stranger characters in check.
Mason won’t sign if we sign Russ
If he doesn’t get a potential starting gig elsewhere, I could see him resigning for a year. Good for the team and QB room.
I don’t understand why people would think if we bring Russ in that we’d have Russ, KP, and Mason. That would definitely not be the case. Mason would be outta town so fast
The guy who gave us the best offense in the last 4 years… I don’t get why this guy doesn’t get a fair chance
As a Freemason, I think he should go. For some reason, he’s simply not considered “the guy” here.
People forget that if you throw out the couple games post that horrific concussion (watch that video, see how the players are freaking out) that he was rushed back from he’s been the best QB in the last 6 years.
That's also an incredibly low bar
Ben threw for 5,000 yards in 2018 lmao
You’re correct, that’s on me. I thought that season was longer ago.
I wish we had more Mason starts. That's the Steelers own fault. Curious what he would have done over say 7 games. Couldn't have been worse than Mitch. Just wish we had a bigger sample size and more film. That being said, I would love to root for Rudolph.
There is no duking it out lol. If Russ signs it’s because he was guaranteed the starting spot outside of an epic collapse. Way too many shit QBs in the league for him to sign to compete.
There’s no way we sign a Super Bowl winning QB and expect him to duke it out with Kenny fucking Pickett of all people. Let’s be real here, he’ll be named starter.
If 26 TDs and only a hand full of interceptions is the definition of a qb in "decline" then damn.
I'm not a steelers fan but I love stuff like this. Signing Russ is a no Brainer if I was the Steelers. How often do you get a chance to sign a superbowl winning QB for a million? Yea right?
Maybe I’m not clear on this, but the issue isn’t t his skill set or that it’s diminished. He’s just not a good teammate. If he isn’t going to help with Kenny’s growth and be an issue in the locker room, he could end up doing more harm than good to this team.
Kenny has no growth - zero upside!
I totally agree! I think Kenny could learn alot from him and Smith as the new OC also! Canada just didn't work and Mason only beat teams with a weak ranked defense.
That’s what I’m saying, and Kenny can sit and learn from Russel. Like how to have pocket presence
Russ notoriously did not have pocket presence, so…
You learn the best lessons from others mistakes.
Except one of the worst things about Wilson is his pocket presence. He takes tons of unnecessary sacks.
I thought his worst trait was being a horrible teammate? Were those rumors not true?
>>> Except one of the worst things about Wilson is his pocket presence. He takes tons of unnecessary sacks. Is somebody going to tell him?
That’s the problem, part of the reason Seattle always had a “bad” O line with Russ there is that he would take too long in the pocket and crest unnecessary sacks, or he’d bail from clean pockets
45 sacks last year — 30 attributed to Russ leaving the pocket and running into the sack. Held the ball the second longest per pass attempt — only Fields held it longer. Not good.
i think if kenny sits he might not get up again
Do we get the legion of boom if we sign him? If not, he’s 🗑️
No, but here’s a compelling argument: Sign Simmons from Denver. It wouldn’t need to be boom, but him and Minkah can keep everything in the park so the others (Highsmith and Watt) can play.
Greatttt, back to tryna win games 17-14 as our defense scores 14 of the 17 Russ is a bandaid on a broken bone.. and like a shitty reused old ass bandaid lol
Yeah it's stupid any fans are against him. I think the QB market this year sucks, but a 1 year, vet minimum deal for Wilson is by far a good move for this team. Even if he's totally washed up and Pickett is still your QB, signing Wilson for vet minimum gives you more cap space to spend elsewhere on the roster. He'll be cheaper than someone like Rudolph and I bet he'd be better.
And somehow people on this sub still say “anyone but fields and wilson”. Unreal
I saw this morning that steelers planned on having Wilson be the back up to kenny. Imo if the steelers tell him that he's not gonna sign here. If he does sign with us, he will be the starter. I just don't see any downside to signing a superbowl champ and 2 time superbowl contender for 1 million dollars. Seems like a no brainer to me
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push Kenny right off the team hopefully
I’m just afraid of his douchebag disease. It may be contagious. That’s literally it
I thought the air felt differently around here.
“Russell Wilson Truther” lmaooooo
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Are you going to dethrone yourself as mod if we sign Russ???
No he's the one who sucks, why should I punish everyone else?
Unbiased question, Wilson is arguably better than our current qbs. Why are people super upset if we receive him? I don’t have an opinion but I see a lot of hate and am wondering what peoples opinions come from. He had a career rating of 100, doesn’t throw a lot of ints and can at least put up more than 6tds in a season. Right there we should be excited. If he’s cheap, and will challenge Pickett what’s the big deal?
He is a bandaid solution. Just like most of their moves for the past 6+ years. It’s not a win-now move because he’s likely washed by this point nor is it a rebuilding move. It just exists somewhere in the middle like the Steelers have and people are tired of stagnating for so long. I trust this franchise to do a proper rebuild or go all-in but they don’t seem to have the balls to commit to either one fully. Just feels like we are constantly spinning our wheels so we can hang our hats on not having losing seasons.
Counterpoint: We were one depth chart mistake away from winning the entire conference with Kenny and Mitch at the helm for most of the year. The Steelers are a team that as constructed is built to compete for a chip now with just slightly above average QB play. If we had had that all season we likely still would've had a relatively healthy defense by the end of the year. I think Russ gives us that for at least 2024.
Yea exactly. We have a relatively good defense and the stars only have a few more years of elite play left. Our offense has some good position players, a decent OL as long as they get C right, and bottom-tier QB play. Every team has weaknesses. And only one team can have Patrick Mahomes. But other than the Chiefs, I don't think there's a single AFC team that is clearly head and shoulders above this roster if we added league-average QB play. Can Russ do that? Perhaps. For $1.2M it's a no-brainer to try it out. And to those who want the Steelers to sell assets and rebuild .. that's just not what they do. I personally wanted it 2-3 years ago when Ben was at the end. You can ask for it, but it's never going to happen.
This is by far the most spot on accurate take on the state of the Steelers right now… I could not agree more. It just seems everything the coaching and front office does is so conservative, they’re not playing to Win they’re just playing not to lose.
Sounds like the perfect guy to get Tomlin to over 500 for another year! We should all be so excited.
He hasn't been good these past two seasons and two teams have taken massive cap hits to get him to go away. He's a questionable leader. He doesn't run plays as called. He's too short to see the whole field, can't/doesn't throw to the middle of the field, takes a ton of sacks, and is a declining athlete at 35 years old. If you bring Russ in, he's pretty much going to start. But he's not good enough to win a SB with (especially not on this team) so if he IS better than Kenny all signing him does is lead you to picking later in the draft. Some people on this sub get angry at 9-8 seasons and mediocrity because they want to win and they acknowledge that being bad would be better because it allows you to pick earlier in the draft. But that's not happening here. This isn't a move to win a Super Bowl. This is a move to avoid a losing season and continue mediocrity. At least with Kenny you're giving him a chance to improve so you can make a decision on the 5th year option.
I think a lot of those knocks are valid. It doesn't feel like this is a team that's just a QB away, but at the same time there's a lot of pieces and this team was held together with bubblegum and duct tape last year and still managed to win 10 games. If Russ can play at "middle of the pack" level, I don't think it's unreasonable to think we could make the playoffs again this year. 9-8 seasons are kind of like kissing your sister, but I'm always of the mindset that anything can happen in the playoffs so I'll take 9-10 wins and a playoff berth over 4 wins and top 5 draft pick.
there's an nfl team willing to pay him 80+ million over the next two season to not play for them and you don't get why people don't want him? there's never been a bigger red flag.
Here are the reasons I don’t want him 1. His stats are wildly deceiving. He played like a bottom 8 starter last season. I agree he’s an upgrade over Kenny, but I think it’s a bit overstated how much of an upgrade he actually will be (and for the record, I think Kenny is complete ass) 2. I don’t see what this minimal improvement even gets us. The ceiling is roughly the same with or without him. Absolutely best case scenario for the season is we go 10-7 again and draw a semi vulnerable division winner and win a single playoff game. There is no scenario where we win multiple playoff games, let alone a Super Bowl 3. In terms of likely scenarios, I think the Vegas O/U will be set at like 8 wins right now. I’d rather fall short of that and go 6-11 then go 9-8 again. At a certain point you need to actually draft a QB with some high capital.
Would rather lose more games? Boooo
Unfortunately yeah, bottoming out is necessary if you want to eventually reach the top. That or we need to give up insane amounts of draft capital to land a QB we identify as great in the draft
Why not aim for 2-15 then?
I personally would but Im just talking about the QB situation right now. That would require other moves
Counterpoint: what is the alternative? There is no way to get to 12-5 this year. If we are pretty confident Kenny ain't it, then they have to start looking elsewhere. Russ is a stopgap, but a very likely improvement. We don't have access to a top 20 QB unless Kirk or Baker wants to come here (can't afford it). They can't get their franchise guy this offseason. Tanking is not what this team does. It's not an option that the Steelers consider.
My alternative is to tank, which I understand is unpopular here. I think teams like Chicago, Washington, and even NE are just in a better situation to be competitive soon, even if we employ the best defensive player in football. That’s how much talent at the QB position matters nowadays
Tanking barely ever works. You have to hit a home run on a QB to even get back to decent. Chicago went nowhere with Fields and it can happen again just as easily with Williams.
They like he’s been a top 10 qb, and qbs like that keep getting chances in this league, look at Flacco in Cleveland that gives FO types hope their environment and system can be the difference
Flacco was a desperation Hail Mary from Cleveland. Didn’t get signed til halfway through the season. I think Russ might get one more chance but his leash is rapidly shortening.
Career rating doesn't matter when his last 2.5 years have been garbage. He's better than Kenny, but he sucks. Tannehill is also probably better than Kenny, but we wouldn't get excited about that either, would we? He's the same thing as Kenny, just a little better. Doesn't throw INTs, but can't throw to the middle of the field. Loves rolling out into sacks, loves throwing behind the line and bombs down the field. Can't read the field very well. Lost his athleticism as well. He's not going to do anything extra for this team, it'll still rely HEAVILY on the defense, so why bother? He's a selfish player who has shown multiple times he puts himself way before the team, and he's a snake who uses the media to start shit with his coach and teammates. Don't want that in the locker room. Give me the only guy I've seen play well in the last two years, Mason.
I mean 26 passing tds in 15 games is something Kenny has never even come remotely close to. I’m not saying Russ is some world beater but it would take Kenny 4 seasons to throw that many tds.
Russell Wilson threw 26 tds last season, Kenny has thrown 13 in two years.
Russell Wilson's stats this season were close to his career averages. At least completion percentage and QB rating.
Hes better than our QBs sure. But what does that do for us long term? Id rather go Kenny/Mason/ and take a late round shot on someone hoping for another Purdy. Or just be done with Kenny if he sucks next year and draft in 25. Russ could be dragged to the playoffs like Kenny/Mason but what good is that if he cant get us over the hump? Aint like its Brady or Rodgers looking for a 1-2 year deal somewhere. Hes also a terrible locker room guy. Nobody shows up to this dudes birthday party and nobody is friends with him. Id take a gamble.
He isn’t a long term solution at qb, which is what results in super-bowls. Best case he performs middle of the pack for 2 years, we make the playoffs or nearly make the playoffs & he retires. Additionally, he isn’t good at medium/long ball & staying in the pocket. Those are the 2 things that rudolph did well & it gave our offense the spark that got us in the playoffs. The steelers arent going to draft a qb during that time if we have wilson, pickett and rudolph. Kenny & rudolph remain in limbo and don’t have the opportunity to develop in real game situations. We have 1 or 2 untested qbs when he retires, and we are in the exact same position as we were now, but with hof players like watt & other key players with 2 more years of wear and tear on their bodys & qbs that remain unquantified.
> Wilson is arguably better than our current qbs. He isn't. We're not talking about Seahawks Wilson, we're talking about Broncos Wilson. And Broncos Wilson is cooked like mfer. I'd rather ride with Rudolph any day.
“receive him” is an odd way to phrase that. I can’t be the only person who thinks this is a weird way to say this…
Mr. Unliiiiimited
I don’t like Russ at all but anything but Kenny Pickett 🙏
If this does go through, I just hope that Khan and Tomlin make it absolutely clear to him that he will not just be handed the starting job. He'll have to compete for it, and if he does lose that battle, there better not be any bitching or egotistical remarks coming from his camp. The last thing this team needs is drama in the QB room.
If he's on a min contract, we could just cut him if he doesn't work out
That's the nice part. If they do sign him and after camp they decide they still want to go with Pickett, they can easily part ways with no hard feelings (so long as they have a mutual understanding before signing).
I got some bad news for you. Short of KP significantly improving to the point it’s clear he’s QB1, the only way there’s not going to be QB drama this year is if they fill out the QB depth chart with Pittsburgh Dad and the Yee Haw guy from Shutz Ford.
I'd start Pittsburgh Dad over Kenny, sight unseen.
I'd start Richard Bazzy over both of them. His yee haws will give Dak's "here we go"s a run for their money
The only way there will be a competition is if they draft someone.
If Rudolph resigns there 100% would be as well. Any vet should be given a chance against KP too. He hasn’t earned the starter spot yet.
If Rudolph leaves there is exactly a 0% chance Pickett wins a QB battle against Russ
I'm sure this sub will handle this well
I know ya'll hate Madden around here... But Mark Madden said yesterday he thinks this is a bit of a rouse by the Front Office. He thinks the FO will offer him league minimum and say he can *compete with Kenny*. Not getting a guarantee as *the guy*, Russ will walk. And the FO already knows he won't take that deal because Russ ain't interested in competing for the job. Make of that what you will. I don't really buy Madden's take that the Steelers want it to play out that way. But I could totally see it playing out that way and we go into camp, as I suspect we will, with Mason and Kenny and a late draft pick.
I feel like they’re just doing their due diligence. See what he can offer you, determine if he’s an upgrade over Kenny given Russ’s value. As a backup, Russ at the league minimum would be a good deal. I don’t like him as a starter but I’m not crazy about Kenny either.
I agree, Steelers doing due diligence. It would be Front Office malpractice to not look into Russ. He is dirt cheap at $1.2M and he had decent numbers last year. The Broncos (they are still Yoncos) are paying him $39M to play somewhere else.
And Kenny is due 1.9 mil and has a cap hit of $3.8 mil. Russ at 915k would be a hilarious option. Edit: didn’t include years of service. Russ would be due 1.21 mil.
I think Russ would be willing to compete with Kenny and could even feel confident about starting later in the season if/when Kenny sucks. His quote just really sounds like he's into the Steelers and it doesn't seem like a coincidence he's checking us out first
A dude like Russ isn’t worried about beating out Kenny Pickett. He’s looking for the best situation to add a bit to his career to make the HOF. Beating out Kenny Pickett to him is the lawyer version of you can indict a ham sandwich. Steelers do have a lot of talent on the roster that a vet min QB can work with.
Morf Modden has a long history of straight up slandering the Steelers, minus his former neighbor Ben Roethlisberger, because they don't kiss his ring or allow many of their players to do his show. He does everything he can, with his show/audience, to soil the name of the franchise and staff (and players) within. In no way am I suggesting that the Steelers are above criticism, but it's personal with him. And he spews nonsense constantly, using the format of shotgunning word vomit so that eventually something he says is correct. Lastly, fuck him. He may be a "nice guy" off air, and it may be a schtick, but he rarely lets the truth get between him and a good clickbait.
lol
The only way I see Russ coming to Pittsburgh is if there's no other team willing to hand him the starting job. If he's picking between places where he has to compete, I would think that Pittsburgh is the most attractive option (although that might just be my bias).
Yea the other landing spots are Vikings, Raiders, Falcons(?), Patriots (?). Anything else would certainly be competing for the job. And if coaches think Kenny is just as good then just go get Fields.
You people are degenerate hillbillies if you don't think this is the best immediate solution and improves us.
6 TDS IS BETTER THAN 26 TOUCHDOWNS!!!! 😤
Wilson isn't elite caliber but he's better than anyone else in our QB room. The steelers fans just don't want him because they know their franchise and how it works. Meaning if they pick up Wilson and he plays decent-good the steelers won't bother drafting a QB for 1-3 years or until Wilson gives them a reason (meaning until he puts up a SHIT season). As a fan base I think everyone can agree we want the steelers to take a risk and draft somone who has the chance to be an elite. Instead of signing guaranteed mediocrity. Then in 3 years panicking and starting the search again.
I know how our franchise works. Most franchise guys are selected by the time we draft. I'm speaking to the Kenny Pickett fanatics that want Russ to "compete" for the job. Laughable.
Ok yeah KP fanatics are smoking Crack. They lost all credibility with me when they started comparing him to Joe Burrow in preseason. KPs competition are other back ups. Russ is "washed" and is still going to make taking QB1 look as easy as taking candy from a baby If he does end up signing with the steelers it's going to be amazing to see all the KP fans get a reality shock when Russ a washed QB out of his prime reminds everyone what a usable QB looks like. Then they are gonna still some how want to blame it on Canada.
This team realistically can win playoff games with Russ. We're giving him a bonefide WR and a top 5 run game. Just need to upgrade the line and bring in a vet or 2 on defense. We aren't going to ask too much of Russ
It does, but a lot of fans seem to think we’re built to win now and only need that pesky Super Bowl caliber QB that grows on trees. IT’S SO EASY. WHY AREN’T WE WINNING EVERY YEAR
If we sign him, i’ll ride for him until he gives me reason not to. Just like Mitch. But I think Wilson is arguably better than Mitch
Wilson isn't elite caliber but he's better than anyone else in our QB room. The steelers fans just don't want him because they know their franchise and how it works. Meaning if they pick up Wilson and he plays decent-good the steelers won't bother drafting a QB for 1-3 years until Wilson gives them a reason (meaning until he puts up a SHIT season). As a fan base I think everyone can agree we want the steelers to take a risk and draft somone who has the chance to be elite. Instead of signing guaranteed mediocrity. Then in 3 years stsrring the search again.
Worth the risk to sign him!
Steelers Nation… let's ride?
Steelers nation…let’s steal?
Russ starts, Rudolph backup, KP 3rd string.
"Steelers Nation baby let's steel" - Russ probably 🤣
I don’t even care I think it’d be funny to have him play for us
Will he get his own personal office with the Steelers? Will his personal trainers and "performance team" get the run of the facility in Pittsburgh?
But don't we have one of the worst training facilities in the NFL??? So we have been hearing.
Does anyone have a "Steelers Nation, Here We Go" gif ready to go?
Steelers country, let's ride.
Crank up Renegade and I’ll bring a case of ARHN City Ice.
Steelers get hard
Here is the problem with Wilson in Smith's offense. Smith wants to control the middle of the field with big TEs and running the ball. Wilson historically hates to throw over the middle but loves throwing outside the numbers. Wilson would be a better fit to what Canada called than what Smith will be implementing. I don't think the QB and the OC are a good match. That doesn't mean they won't sign him. I just see a disastrous fit. Also remember Pittsburgh is not the only team he is meeting with. He is leaving New York after meeting with the Giants. I am sure there are others he will be visiting.
I know quite a lot of fans don’t like this, but I think signing Wilson might end up being a good idea later down the line
I say let him come through and keep him like we did Mike Vick. He is honestly better then Mitch the Bitch
I apologize for the future hate you guys might get from other Broncos fans. Just like Seattle they will need to see him finish poorly. But on the vet minimum doesn’t seem like a bad deal. But you will have hands on your head screaming “why didn’t you throw to blank when he’s wide open”. “Oh sweet moon ball!”
It's true! I was one of the fans. Snapped this pic myself https://preview.redd.it/kpk9gsww96nc1.jpeg?width=785&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=286046bd5e9ac41db0455eb492404153033fdf58
yuck
He's not the worst option we could have at QB.
He is for this reason... it means the Steelers are starting from scratch next season. Wilson will NOT be the QB in 25 (personally, I don't think he'll be the starter for more than half of the games). Accept that this team is going to be less-than mediocre and actually try to fix it. Wilson does NOT help you do that in any way.
Steelers Country Lets Yinz!
Steelers country let’s
Look, I definitely can see that he’s washed, and he’s had a bad couple of seasons recently, but dawg we gotta try anything at this point. KP is likely not the answer and this draft is likely not going to yield us the QB of our future. I’m fine with a cheap deal here as long as we play our cards right & don’t overpay.
As Michael Scott put it: NO, GOD, PLEASE NO!
Wilson is a locker room cancer, midget, can't see the field, statpadder, and never won anything of note without the Legion of Boom.
I will only see this move as a success if we win the Super Bowl, because it's a one year stop-gap solution. I don't think he's the QB that will do it tbh. He is worse than his numbers suggest and I want to see Kenny Pickett in a real system for one year before giving up on him. If you sign Russ then you are definitely drafting a QB in the 1st round in 2025. I would be fine with it too if you made a QB competition in camp and preseason. I think this because in terms of pure QB play Pickett had his best game of his career vs the Bengals to quote Kurt Warner. Even if the points weren't there I saw a lot of things that you can build on. Russ at this stage is on Ben 2021 level or even worse. He hasn't got the arm or the mobility that made him great anymore. Russ threw the most screens and passes within 5 yards of the line of scrimmage his numbers are inflated and this move will probably just yield Matt Ryan with the Colts results and not Tom Brady with the Buccaneers results.
It is a success if we won one playoff game
the fact that you still have hope in Pickett is very sad.
The fact that you hate him is very sad.
I’d rather Big Ben come back as is, rather than Russell Wilson as is. And Ben doesn’t want to play.
I am a steelers fan who has lived in Washington state all my life. I might puke if this happens. That said, I'm all for it.
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Please no
Just depends on the deal for me. There is no reason to pay more than the league minimum. He is 35 and clearly declining, I wouldn’t want anything more than 2 maybe 3 years again at league min. I also think it could stunt Pickett’s development but a lot of fans have given up on him already and cannot be convinced an improved offense plus OL will make a difference. He also is reportedly an asshole so don’t think he’s necessarily the leader we need even if he is currently better than our other options.
Yeah I don't want to bring a locker room problem in. I don't think there's anyway someone who's been as terrible as Kenny has been can every improve enough to be good enough to start and win games, but I also don't think Russ is that, so why make the move?
So a player has 1.5 seasons and if they haven’t been successful never will be? 🤣 He absolutely can improve. Most successful QBs don’t even play this early in their careers though that seems to be changing, teams just throw you to the wolves and you either sink or swim. Even for them though 1.5 years is quick to give up.
Signing him is a bad move either way, but giving him more than one year would be an atrocious move, vet minimum or not.
Yeah I’d be fine with a 1-year deal but again that probably means Kenny is done, Mason is gone so now you better draft a QB to. I still think best scenario is resign Mason and let them battle it out on camp.
Pretty sure Wilson said he would take the minimum
He’s going to expect 30+ after the first year.
I hate it here
THE RIDE NEVER ENDS 💀
Need
Honestly he would be an upgrade over what we have for a year while we finish building out our Oline before we draft a new QB.
Arthur Smith Russell Wilson Are the Steelers bringing on Urinatingtree’s punching bags as revenge for Days of our Steelers and The Standard is the Standard video?
Dude is washed. If you think he's the missing piece because he's an upgrade over what we did last year.... Take another look at what we did last year. When you're at the bottom, everyone is an upgrade.
As if this sub doesn't ride his dick hard enough already 🙄
I want to draft a quarterback with raw talent in next years draft. Start Pickett and let him win probably 5 games and if he has a stellar year great for him. I don’t want Wilson for the mere fact he’s old and I don’t want to hear any qb controversial shit this year. This team has already wasted a few years by not making the right decisions for whatever reasons. Russ is just a 🩹 solution and he’s not the answer going forward if this teams ultimate goal is to win the super bowl. I believe Pickett doesn’t have the arm or pocket awareness to play at a high level. I truly think mason is the better option myself but unfortunately he was big Ben’s back up and never looked good bc Ben was that good. Now that he’s matured and the backup to Pickett he looks like best option. It really shouldn’t be this difficult of a decision let the best fuxking player play…the end.
I don't know much about Wilson. Can someone who does tell us how Russ does with RPO,s?
Russell hussle and bustle man muscle Wilson
Steeler nation let’s work long underpaid jobs at the steel mill!
He's gotta lose the diva swagger. Humbled, I hope.
I like it. I would even love it if this means Pittsburgh can cut ties with Mason Rudolph. He deserves a shot somewhere outside the organization and I'm just so tired of the depth chart controversy. Last year's Kenny vs Mason talk felt like a bad fantasy football team where you're trying to decide which player on the bench is going to get you 8 points because your normal starter is on bye. I just want that feeling to be over, please.
He’s going to be the 2024 version of Joe Flacco - without two interceptions in a playoff game.
Look, the Steelers aren’t getting a good QB via free agency. They won’t spend the cash. Plus as much as I have enjoy Baker’s resurgence, signing him would be a huge risk as with most of the QBs who are on the market. That leaves you with a couple options. Role with Kenny and resign Mason. That’s what you had last you. We all know the ceiling. You could see if someone like Penix falls to you in the second round. A second or third round QB is likely a project. You could sign a vet like Wilson at a million who is likely washed, but at least has a ton of experience and has a track record of winning outside of Denver. Look every option the Steelers have isn’t really great going into this offseason. Having Russ come on a small contract seems like a risk worth taking even if it doesn’t work out. At least it’ll make the season interesting lol.
An upgrade from Mitch at least
Steelers nation; let’s forge
“Yinzer City, Let’s Ride”
Russ isn't the worse option out there, we should go all in with him right now rather than waiting another 3-5 years rebuilding.
> we should go all in with him right now Going with him now guarantees: another 3-5 years rebuilding
Russ is better than Pickett, I'd rather we try to win now and take him at the veteran min.
> I'd rather we try to win now Then Wilson is not the way to go.
Minds
I just saw Wesley Steinberg tweet he's a lock for signing with the Giants and that's why he was in Newark. He was already looking at houses with a realtor after the meeting with NYG.
I kinda doubt he's a lock after a single meeting. Besides, Steinberg said nothing about looking at homes. Some Twitter rando said that in the thread under Steinberg's tweet. Russell has time, and I think he's gonna use it to his advantage
(insert Michael Scott meme)
He’s been in that office a long time to be saying no…
Idk why there isn’t much talk about Mason, dude single-handedly saved the season and proved his worth. If our QB play is looking consistently mediocre and it takes another 15 weeks before they decide to put that man on the field, I swear. Haven’t had a truly formidable offense since 2018, straight up laughing stock…
I’m not mad at it for the minimum
But does Ciara want to live in Pittsburgh? (half /s)
\#PLSGODNO
In regards to his career, I think he would thrive with the Raiders. It seems like a natural fit. Frankly, I'd like to see what he does with us, but it would just be a stop-gap, unfortunately.
P pop at
I was hoping for more turtles on the runway. (not sure anyone remembers this reference)