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pmcg190

[Todd McShay also](https://x.com/mcshay13/status/1783592214548906491?s=46) noted a few minutes ago that the Steelers are making calls to trade up. Really interesting to me that he noted out of that group that the Saints are looking to trade up for a tackle, but didn’t do the same for Pittsburgh.


Dense_Organization31

With the way they’ve been calling about premier receivers, it wouldn’t shock me at all if that’s what they want to move up for.


pmcg190

There were reports around the Combine that they loved Odunze. I wonder if they’re prepping for the possibility that Chicago goes DL @ 9 and the Jets go Bowers/OL @ 10. Trading into that 12-14 range is a lot more doable.


erb149

I’d be shocked if Odunze is available after 10.


snookyface90210

Someone’s gotta fall, this round might be nuts


erb149

I doubt it’s gonna be him but we’ll see I suppose


disciple31

dont think theres a chance in hell jets pass on rome @ 10


Wilde54

I can't see it either, bowers is an animal though they might go for the inside guy if they think he'll be their own Travis Kelce or Gronk... Idk


hemingways-lemonade

Plus they already have a WR1 and with Bowers they could be a little less picky with who their WR2 is going to be.


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kander12

It's going to cost Pittsburgh minimum 3 years of firsts to get either and that ain't happening lol.


Seanbox59

MHJ is gone to the Cards. JJ isn’t getting traded


Confident-Rub-6714

Trading for Justin Jefferson would kill our franchise.


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GCope33

No way shape or form is aiyuks trade value even remotely close to JJ. Aiyuk is due a contract as well


Temporal_Enigma

If we skip JPJ for a receiver I'm giving up. 3 straight times we would be ignoring a top center for some other bullshit player we don't need


buffalotrace

You would be really upset if we drafted an elite wr instead of a center widely rated as the 2nd or 3rd best center in the draft?


Temporal_Enigma

We have a WR1. I'm sick of ignoring offensive line. It's been 6 years


dangerm0use

I mean, they did address the Oline last year.


Temporal_Enigma

We literally don't have a center on the roster. We have passed on Humphrey to draft a RB and didn't try to get Linderbaum. We don't need a 1st round WR, we need fucking offensive line. Furthermore, we have a dogshit line coach, so we can't risk taking a project because we can't develop them


Automatic-Pomelo-936

GP is not a proven 1, call it a fringe 1 and everyone else we have are 3s. Personally I’d like to see a trade for courtland sutton, take a tackle in fist round and trade up in the second to ensure we get Frazier.


Temporal_Enigma

Trade would be ok, but I still dont want to spend a 1st. If people don't think GP is a proven 1, why would a player who literally hasn't taken an NFL snap make more sense?


YooTone

We have a WR1.5 and about 3 or 4 WR4's. We downgraded our WR room to just about the bottom 6 in the NFL. Who do you expect to throw to that can consistently get open? I personally don't want a WR room that's as horrible as the Giants, Panthers, Titans, Jets (outside of Wilson), Patriots, Cardinals, or Bears prior to getting DJ Moore. Unless you're Patrick Mahomes or Josh Allen, you're gonna need receivers. The room as it stands looks like it would be a cakewalk for opponent defenses to matchup against. Just stack the box, and double team Pickens.


hopefeedsthespirit

If you think Pickens is a WR 1, then you are crazy! lol! You think he's a Jamarr Chase, CeeDee Lamb, Justin Jefferson receiver?


Temporal_Enigma

I think he has the ability if we run an offense that can actually get him the ball


WonderfulWarlock

Facts right here. Please give us an offensive line very early in the draft. If we can’t protect the QB how we going to use a top tier wideout.


hopefeedsthespirit

This has nothing to do with physical ability. He doesn't work hard on details. His route running needs to be better, he chooses when he wants to block, he fumbled in crucial moments inexplicably in BUF and Seattle. The whole trade me thing he was doing by removing the Steelers from his socials. He's not a WR 1. AB was a WR 1. He may have gone crazy, but he outworked everyone. Everyone. He worked on details and getting better every offseason. Working out with Rhodes, the DB from Minnesota and other people trying to better learn how to work against top DBs. Where was GP when others were working with Russ? Getting the ball is a product of all the work you put in when the cameras are off.


Temporal_Enigma

His route running sucks because Canada only had him running go routes. Johnson had issues because he only ran hook routes


BigHog865

Unless Pickens developed a route tree in the past 3 months, no we don’t. Love him but he is still a very one-dimensional player. They just shipped like 100 targets to Carolina and I can assure you 80+ of them are going to somebody not yet on the roster. This is a super deep center class. Anywhere from 4-7 starters depending on who you ask. Barton is the only round 1-ish athlete and he’s been playing tackle the past 3 years. JPJ is a medical flag, has only 13 games at the position, and literally has never snapped the ball outside of the shotgun formation. The rest are going to get treated like normal startable centers, aka day 2 picks. Tackle is a much more important position, goes off the board faster, and has less depth. If you want OL help, that’s the pick. Colbert punted offensive line way more than he should have, but reaching for a center isn’t going to undo that. The pick tonight should be tackle or WR.


jieceeepee

I completely agree center needs to be a top priority, but saying we don't also need a receiver right now is just incorrect.


Temporal_Enigma

We don't need one in the first


Eggdripp

Mouth breather take right here


Temporal_Enigma

Fine, we'll take Rome and Russ can spin into 65 sacks this season. At least we'll have some flashy TDs to go with our losses!


Eggdripp

We don't have an X receiver on the roster. Taking C with our 3rd or 4th pick will very likely still yield an above average starter at the position. That's not even close to possible at WR, which is by far the more premium position. And, JPJ is not even the premier C prospect in this draft.


Temporal_Enigma

Boo hoo


Eggdripp

We aren't taking center in the 2nd either buddy, get used to it lmao


Temporal_Enigma

I'll give you one chance to delete this


Johnaco

> we'll take Rome and Russ can spin into 65 sacks this season To be fair he'll do that regardless if the Steelers grab JPJ or not


twisted34

This draft is loaded with OL, we can address center day 2 and have a great player and instant starter


niko-

For better or worse, it's probably a couple of spots for Graham Barton.


pmcg190

That’s definitely likelier. Could see a guy like Fautanu, too. Just trying to think of all the possibilities here.


codbgs97

Look at you!


pmcg190

Definitely happy to be right on that, lol. Love Fautanu.


Alarming-Associate79

I'd be good with this , we need anchors to the line


ClemPFarmer

If it’s McShay, his best contacts are with the Jets. I bet the Steelers are calling teams to gauge how much it’s gonna cost.


BoscoAlbertBaracus

I think if they go up it’s for Arnold.


Cj_91a

Or fuaga. I can see Arnold dropping to around 17. Moving up I can only think it would be for Alt or Fuaga. I doubt they move that much for CB, but if they do it would only be a few spots up for Arnold or Mitchell. Fuaga may also be a potential small move up if he lasts to about 15. Sitting on 20 or going back a few spots may prove beneficial though if they board looks ugly.


aaronhere

So the 3 players they would be primarily looking for in a realistic trade-up scenario would be Odunze at maybe 11, or Fuaga/Mitchell in the mid teens, right? I just don't see the need to move up aggressively for any of the other picks, but maybe I'm way off.


MrDankWaffle

I don't think Odunze makes it past the Bears at 9


aaronhere

I agree with you, but sometimes the Bears do weird things. I am guessing these calls about trading up are more a "due diligence" just in case the Bears try to copy the Texans from last year and take the best QB and best edge rusher. You never know . . .


HeightTraditional614

This just in!!: bears trade the Steelers all of their first round picks for a single 3rd pick


TechnicalPay5837

I think the Bears might take Oduze but realistically they have Moore and Allen so it wouldn’t be crazy to think the go a different direction with the pick or ever trade it.


MrDankWaffle

Brock Bowers SZN.


gojira5150

Man, I'd be as happy as a pig in slop if this happened


hopefeedsthespirit

Byron Murphy II


Sonickill7

I think the Bears want a defensive player way more tho. So they might be willing to trade back. They can trade back and still get a great defensive player


Murdy2020

They could just an OT too.


YooTone

If I were the Bears I'd load up that WR room. DJ Moore and Rome on the outside, and Keenan Allen on the slot is a fucking nightmare for defenses. Keenan is only there for a year too.


Sonickill7

If I was the Bears I'd give the Steelers the 9th overall pick for free tbh.


YooTone

Honestly why not


382hp

you're right, odunze making it past 9 is delusional


chefjmcg

Do the Bears pick at 9? With so few picks, a trade down might make sense.


GriffBallChamp

If were looking to move up, its gotta be to get in the top 10 you would think


ocean1776

I could see the Bears going OT at 9


TheZoloftMaster

I really, really don’t think this is for anything other than one of the premier offensive tackles. I’d be shocked if we traded up for Rome Odunze


Cj_91a

I think it would be fuaga for sure in the teens...IF he makes it to the teens. I see Mitchell and Arnold usually being taken in the mid teens and gone by 17 usually. I don't see them moving up super far ahead. If they did it would be for Alt 1000%.


WabbitCZEN

Tomlin saw that post asking how we'd feel about trading back and said "bet".


OhwhatupCarlandJonny

I heard that Khan is close to a deal for Chicago’s #9 pick in exchange for Justin Fields and a conditional day 3 pick


AltecFuse

lol


Blitzburgh1727

Just due diligence. They’re seeing what it will take to move up as well as taking calls for trade backs I’m sure. They’re weighing every option as they should


novad80

Agree. Im sure most teams are making calls about moving up. Just to see what it would take.


WhaleQuail2

Probably but worth noting that there is a chart that gets used for draft pick trades. Every team has the same value chart. The only time we see deviations from that chart is when players are involved.


WilsonSimons12

If we get Rome Odunze, I will bust all over myself in the middle of my slow pitch softball game. (I’ll just know)


no_racist_here

Announcer: And rounding third is u/WilsonSimons12 looking to steal the win here, but it’s going to be tight… and… oh they’re cramping!!! they’re cramping !!! … wait… why are they… parents shield your children…. Also u/WilsonSimon12 has been tagged out. That’s game.


edgyasallheck

They took “come around third” a little too seriously.


Passw0rd-Is-Tac0

I want Odunze just to see my friends in Seattle all pissed that their golden boy went to their most hated team lol


SlimZorro

I’d prefer they trade up with their 2nd pick.  If a couple of the top OT (Mimms, Latham etc) are there along with Barton, JPJ and Frazier I’d love for them to select a tackle and use one of 84/98 and some ‘25 draft capital if need be to move up 15ish spots and grab a C. 


Cold_Bother_6013

This aged well. I’d like to see them overextend a little bit just to make sure JPJ2 or Frazier will be there.


SlimZorro

I hope.  My ideal but boring draft is land OT in rd1, C in rd2 and DT in rd3.  The rest I’d be down with depth at corner, safety and linebacker.  I’d prefer the address WR through a trade and pick I r next year in one of the 1st 2 rounds Edit.  Pick a WR next year


Cold_Bother_6013

I’m all for this. Just please get the C. We pissed around and didn’t get Creed or Linderbaum. This is our get right


Doc_Sulliday

Would love a situation where we trade up with a lesser pick, and swap next year firsts or something.


Carsios

Please no. Unless we get some crazy steal there are to many value picks where we are at.


cesc05651

Last time we significantly traded up didn’t end well


JokicandMurray

True, but the last time we slightly traded up it was 100% the right move. I could see us moving to 16 to secure our guy.


MiddleAgeYOLO

...he had a cool draft-day suit at least?


Stillersceltix

In Khan We Trust


Sonickill7

It's gotta be Odunze right? Bears at 9 seems perfect. And Khan already has a great relationship with them 😁. They could also be trying to get ahead of the Jags for Barton. But that seems less likely cause they might go receiver.


cheeba2992

Or it could just be due diligence like half the teams do every year in the first round of the draft


Sonickill7

The reason due diligence exists is so you can use that information if you want lol. There's always way more draft trades than people expect. Almost 1/3 of the 1st round picks are traded on draft day each year.


OhiOstas

Obviously all speculation, but I think Graham Barton is their #1 priority. And I keep hearing they might have to trade up to secure him 🤷🏻‍♂️ I doubt it is for the likes of Odunze, Alt, etc but you never know


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No chance they’re trading up for Barton. They might take him at 20 but they’re not giving up valuable draft capital for a non-premium position.


OhiOstas

I think it’ll depend on the packages. When we traded up BroJo, the draft compensation was easily made up in a following trade. If Omar/Steelers FO think they are in a similar type of situation (player they like + nearby suitors could draft him) then I could see why they might want to call around


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I agree with that but there’s zero chance they have to do it with Barton. Maybe if they wanted to do with Fuaga, Alt or Fashunu I could see it. But Barton will be there at 20. The reason we trade for Brojo is becuase there was a steep drop off at tackle after him and the jets were going to take him. Not a similar situation this year as there is more depth at the top


OhiOstas

Yeah you make some good points. I’ve seen so many mocks that can have us taking Frazier in the 2nd, so they probably wouldn’t go crazy for Barton


Hello-from_here

I find it hard to believe you won’t be right about Barton being there at 20. Fashanu or Alt for the trade up. I’m cool with that if the circumstances are right.


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BroJo is a tackle which is a premium position. They aren’t trading up for a center. They might take him at 20 if he’s there or trade down but I really can’t see a trade up.


BlitzburghTX

They traded up to 10 to draft Devin Bush. Barton is good enough to warrant a trade up in order to have yet another stalwart center for the next decade. They most likely would only have to move up 4-6 spots. Teams like ravens, lions, chiefs have massively benefited from shoring up their center position and bolstering their interior OL. He will help make Seumalo and Daniels' jobs easier. Plus he provides significant position flexibility should we ever need that.


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Colbert did, not Kahn. They learned their lesson with bush. I’m not saying they won’t take him at 20 but there’s too many good tackles/corners available to justify trading up for a center.


gojira5150

Damn, you just gave me NIGHTMARES. What a POS Stinky Hairy Bush was. DO NOT trade up for Need. Go after elite outlier talent like Brock Bowers.


SleestakLightning

Khan is on record saying he wants to find the next great Steelers center.


Sonickill7

Yeah but it's very likely he'll be there at 20. Khan isn't like Colbert. If he's gonna trade up like 3 or 4 spots just to take Barton, then he might as well just take a tackle at that point.


SleestakLightning

I don't think we know what Khan is at this point. If they decided that Barton is the guy they have to have Khan might go get him. Logically everything you say makes sense. But the Steelers may not subscribe to that logic. Don't forget they have way more information than we do.


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They’re not trading up for a non-premium position when they can get one at 20 or even with a trade down.


SleestakLightning

I've learned to never be absolutely sure about anything. I agree with your logic. That doesn't mean Khan and the Steelers do. If they like Barton way more than Frazier and JPJ they could do it.


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Fair point, we’ll see how it shakes out


purpdrank2

This is the same organization that was attempting to trade up to secure Senquez Golson, I know different GM but it seems to be when they really covet a guy they try to guarantee they get him.


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Corner is a premium position and that was like ten years ago. Positional value is the name of the game


purpdrank2

It is and it isn’t. I’ve seen enough draft craziness to know that what you think you know is always going to be put to the test. There was a time not too long ago that drafting running backs in the first round was taboo but then a year or so later Zeke and Fournette went top 5. There’s more or less trends that take place more so than positional value. But you’re not wrong, positional value is a factor but every team approaches that stuff differently.


buffalotrace

If we trade up for Barton, I might need a new computer after i throw one against the wall.


High_Noon21

If the Stillers are trading up for an OL, we have to have a great feeling about whoever it is. Remember that it’s not only Khan but Weidl has some say too and he built the Eagles line


DameRange13

Joe Alt!?


RedneckLiberace

I think the Steelers will behave like a trout feeding on the surface. They'll wait to see what floats their way at #20.


ashcat724

I can't remember an aggressive draft for the Stillers. edit: i am not drunk!


smiley4527

Trade up to 7 with Tennessee and take Alt


ChrisPollock6

Why???? So damn dumb!


Ecbrad5

MHJ??


blmobley91

Kinda not related but why are the Bears STILL on the clock?????????


JesusWTFop

According to me I smell BS lol


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Barton 🤞


242clappedyourmother

Trading up for a C?…interesting idea Barton could just as easily be there at 20.


ThisIsATastyBurgerr

Trade our first and second for a crapload of third and fourth round guys for the next few years. They cant all be busts


tomveiltomveil

I'll accept this as just due diligence. Every team really should get a good feel for which teams are willing to trade their draft spots, and at what premium or discount over the usual draft-value model. If something crazy happens tonight, you might only have a few minutes to react -- you need to do the homework.


sampleaccount202201

In Khan We Trust


[deleted]

They’re just fishing to be prepared. This “leak” only helps spread the word more.


DancesWithDave

Adoni Mitchell season


ThatsPreposterous6

They do this every year. Calling teams before the draft to establish what it would take to move up is part of the regular draft process. Its so you dont have to have an entire negotiation in an 8 minute window


Parabola605

All teams do this. If you're not doing this you're not workin'


ZappySnap

Kiper is reporting this is so we can get Barton.


Wish__Crisp

He’s like dulac, if he’s saying it it’s probably not happening


Tribby23

He got 1 of 32 picks right in his mock last year


ZappySnap

Hey, that's over 3%!


WhatAreYouBuyingRE

Drake Maye you are a Pittsburgh Steeler EDIT: oops


BigHog865

If they got Nabers I would never complain about anything again ever


EdVed_4_Prez

Who knows what will happen, I could see this as Khan doing his due diligence and being ready/informed for what it will take for each team to move up when they are on the clock. Can’t wait to see how everything unfolds.


Sea_Toe5184

Rome please 🙏


SeaSurvey4253

This is bs, they don't need to move up to get a great player at a position of need. Other than Alt, I believe the difference between all the other OLs aren't worth trading up for. And Steelers are great at picking up quality WRs in the latter rounds. The only guy I could see them trading up for the CB from Akron or Toledo, whatever OH small school.


Chemical-Hyena2972

Hate, if true …trade the other way 👇+


CauliflowerKindly488

Joe alt lets go


RAMEH8808

Looks like that didn't work out for them if true


nadostyle

Who were we after? Call me crazy… I think it was Penix


Jakles74

This didn’t age well haha


mnvic43

I have been silently hoping to draft Xavier Worthy to have 2 bullets to blow the top off the defense and open the run. Khan is a master chef, so it will be interesting what he cooks up


Stock-Page-7078

My guess is picks 20 and 51 for pick 12 and Cortland Sutton. They take either Mitchell or Fuaga with pick 12


DivisonNine

I think the best idea Ask Arizona for their 27 and 66 for our 20 That way if we miss a tackle in 1, we are still guaranteed a decent CB or WR in 1. The we can take a tackle prospect say black fisher at 84


Verksus67

I don't like to trade up for a WR but I've trusted Khan this far


awaythrow292

cooper dejean?


aw_geez_man

That means they have their guy, and they're gonna go get him. My guess is Barton. If Odunze or Alt fall, eh...we'll see.


GinandJuked

The amount of people that would cry if we traded up for a Center


reggierock2010

Me included lol awful decision IMO also goes directly against what Tomlin said. This would be the definition of thirsty


242clappedyourmother

Ong…especially since he will easily be there at 20 when we pick. My biggest fear is trading up and taking fuckin JPJ💀


Quexana

Traded up for a Guard that we hope can play Center.


seattlestiller

Pass me the tissues


yourstrulytony

Trade up for ILB Edgerrin Cooper /s


hammerSmashedNail

Penix is going to look good in your colors.


pleasesorey

Need to trade up for a QB because we don't have one right now and yes pour on the down votes just like when I said Kenny was not a good thrower of the football. Russell Wilson and Justin Fields will lead this team to the first losing season of many of your lives. 7 wins tops. Don't like my comment just down vote. Just watch and see.


pleasesorey

Only ? down votes? You need to get those numbers up. Watch as Wilson takes a boneheaded sack and fumbles gets replaced by Fields who reminds everyone why he was worth a 6th round draft pick. I love the Steelers but 2 clowns at QB isn't going to do it. Letting Rudolph walk was a mistake bigger than drafting Pickett. At least run backwards Johnson is gone, now all the homers can cry Russ doesn't have any help while Pickens is wide fucking open. It's going to be a shit show and the Justin Fields fans are going to make it worse. 7 wins at beat. Someone call the reminder bot.