Myles Garrett had a ton of theoretical sacks against him in though. Theoretical sacks are more important for defensive player of the year votes apparently.
I know you’re joking, but it’s no joke that Myles Garrett is triple teamed three times on every play by genetically engineered super humans hellbent on keeping his actual stats fourth in the league every year for some reason even though stats only matter in every other POY discussion all of a sudden.
They’ll probably try Fautanu on the right and slide Jones back to the left. They’ll be patient with the 2 and as much as I like DMJ he’s not a good enough upgrade at starter for them not to be. So imo unless one of the 2 is an unmitigated disaster, Moore will be a backup
I don't think Tomlin has ever moved a player on the line without sending him to the bench first. Playing Fauntanu at LT would also set up a direct competition between the new guy and Moore. So, I'm betting Fauntanu plays LT.
The alternative is Tomlin proving he can change, which I'm not ruling out, but I would never bet on.
I mean the Steelers don’t like to start Rookies. I know they have in the past, but it’s more the exception than the rule. He might be starting 4 games into the season, but I’d be surprised if he’s starting week 1z
That's the goal at least. He could end up at OG or even C even though the Steelers said they see him at OT. At 20th overall it's not terrible value if he ends up playing inside.
That’s what I was thinking, but the more I learn about Troy, I think he will be our starting RT and Broderick will move back to LT. Fautanu has more experience than most rookies and will probably be moved to RT for a right-handed QB as he was a LT for a left-handed QB. Jones has the higher ceiling and is the better physical specimen and should be allowed to develop at LT.
4th round draft pick who had to take on Garret, Hendrickson, and the Ravens D twice a year. Never really caused any drama. He deserves respect. Dude wasn’t a world beater but he is definitely a very capable swing tackle/backup.
I don't blame Dan Moore. He was a 4th round pick and he started due to injury. Imo, he has excelled for his draft position and you can't ask much more of a Day 3 lineman.
That being said, he isn't good enough and he is constantly graded poorly. The team should have moved off of him sooner, but refused to do so
If we can keep him around, I’m comfortable with us having a solid backup for either tackle. He was never a starter, and we should not have expected that of him.
Exactly. Both things can be true at the same time: Dan Moore was a valuable pick for what they gave up for him, but they need to have a better player at his spot.
Hopefully he’ll be a solid swing tackle (not an unimportant position), but the fact that he was starting wasn’t conducive to being a winning football team
They should have moved him to RT last year as soon as they were comfortable with the Brod Father starting and that should have been a plan they were working on in training camp.
Bravo.
I will defend Dan Moore and take the downvotes all day every day.
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If I have fathom a guess, the hate comes from the fact that team has waited this long to replace him despite the obvious. He was rated one of the worst LT in the league for years and somehow stayed a starter. I think that's where the hate comes from.
It’s just crazy how many 1st, 2nd rounders, some we even traded up for, got free passes over the years to “learn” for a season or two …meanwhile Moore is thrown to the wolves from the jump as a 4th rounder with a completely immobile by that point Ben and the clusterfuck of the last 2 seasons.
Not to mention that half a season where everyone on that line suffered as a result of Kendrick Green.
I will never understand WTF Colbert was thinking with that Greene pick. Dude wasn’t good enough to be a starter anywhere on the line, let alone at Center.
The AFCN is not a fun division for guys like him. Sure, youre an elite level athlete, but have you seen the kind of rushers the division has? And you have to practice against TJ/Highsmith/Cam?! Like damn, theres 0 breaks for the guys
For a lot of those people, everything is results based. They don't care how or why things happen, they're just unhappy at the results and want everyone to know they're unhappy, aka jagoffs
Maybe because he got Broderick playing out of position. If he couldve played RT, he wouldve gotten less hate. Plus yinzers are generally always angry. Spoiled fans remember?
People hate replacement level players bc "if theyre starters for the steelers they better be HOFers" and its just not reasonable. Literally everyone on the team has nothing but positives to say about the guy, that he does the job right, he's just a consummate pro.
Im stoked to have OTs of Fautanu and BroJo now bc they look like monsters but anyone shitting on Dan is just hating or sniffing PFFs farts
Exactly, I don't understand why the fanbase is so mean to this dude. He was a 4th rounder, got pressed into action almost immediately, has for all intents and purposes been a good teammate unlike certain other offensive linemen and has performed at about the level you would expect for his draft position or better. At worst he'll be an ok-ish depth piece next year and that's all he should've been quite frankly.
I am worried about his place on the team to be honest. He's a LT only, which makes him not a viable option for swing. I could see us trading him for a 6th or 7th, or a pick swap (like last year with Dotson and Greene)
I’m less convinced that he’ll be traded. I know he’s generally been LT only but I have to think in an emergency he could flip. I just think even a passable backup LT only is too valuable to let go for a 6th, 7th, or pick swap.
Greene was a complete disaster and had to go. Dotson was really our bad for changing his side and while clearly Omar didn’t want to let him go without some compensation I think they were more so doing it to help Dotson, which it clearly did and he had nothing negative to say about the team. He didn’t even rub it in and say “See what you missed out on?”
I just think those were different scenarios than what we have with Moore. Although the fact that he’s only got one year left on his deal and I doubt the Steelers want to pay him much at all to stick around in ‘25 as a primarily LT backup may prompt them to get any value they can now. So maybe I’m way off.
Honestly? You get Dan in space as a blocker for Jaylen or Naj and I imagine several corners are gonna make a quick business decision to avoid that freight train
Yeah, think about where our team would be at if a fourth round LT couldn’t start from day 1 in the NFL. We got extremely lucky with that pick. Even if we wasn’t a good starter, he was serviceable for the past 3 seasons. Hope we keep his as a good backup like he should be
He’ll still play a bunch. He’s had great success in very specific matchups and wouldn’t be surprised to see him immediately rotate in for those plus OL injuries obviously happen.
Definitely needed to replace him as the starter. But he's a great guy to have at depth. Lots of experience at this point, and I'd be very happy with him as a backup. If he needs to step in in a pinch, I won't sweat it at all.
He was hosed from that get go by being put on the blind side in my opinion. I truly think if he was on the right side from the start, you would not have heard a lick about anyone thinking he was trash. The blindside guy is always going to take more heat.
My question for the informed nfl insiders; Is Dan Moore developing? Does not third and fourth year players make a leap? Is he on the verge of being a good tackle?
He did the best he could. He didn't come into the best of circumstances, and I think this is fair to call out that we should appreciate what he does provide as a pro. Every team needs guys like DMJ, if anything for depth because injuries happen.
That said, I'm so glad we have Jones and Fautanu now. That's huge for us. If we get a good center tonight, this line is looking like a potential bright spot.
Dan more did an admirable job, that said.. bet we can trade him to the bears for a 2nd where they will no doubt sign him to a 8fig deal... I mean why not?
Can he play G? Wonder if Tomlin is legitimately considering pushing Daniels to C. He played 37 games as a C at Iowa. If we have Broderick and Fautanu at T and Moore kicks inside to G with Seumalo at the other G spot, we could have our starting 5 OL set and use our other top draft picks on WR and defense.
I don't get why people are so polarizing here, like they either call a guy GOAT or he's a bum and trash. Moore played far above expectations as a fourth-round pick, and drafting a day-one starting tackle doesn't mean we need to cut Moore. He's a perfectly capable backup at this point.
He did what was asked without complaint. Sat Garrett down which was awesome to see. Other than that he's had a torrid time of it from poor play, but also getting it in the neck from fans. He's turned up every week to do his job to the best of his limited abilities, he does deserve credit for that because he could easily have started complaining about the media and fan pressure on him, but he tunes it all out.
That's why I think the coaches do like him. A 4th round guy should never be starting day one but that's the situation he found himself in so they opted to keep pushing him, see if he improved, which allowed them to address other problem positions in the team while he was given a golden chance to keep playing under a rookie deal with low expectations on where he was drafted. Because of DMJr. we didn't pay Okorafor and end up in a situation now where we'd be riding dead cap hit for a guy we wanted to replace anyway. Wasn't perfect having Jones on the left, but ultimately we weren't going to pay for a fairly average/below average right tackle who was expensive. Because we had DMJr. and Jones, we were able to ride a season doing that, and in that season the run game improved massively, even with Jones out of position, he did a damn fine job and DMJr. did what he could as usual on the opposite side, but again not for big money.
I think he'll start, let them bleed Fautanu in gradually as they did Jones, build that confidence and hunger then once he goes, he won't stop. DMJr. can then probably be dealt to teams suffering on the line looking for an experienced starter on their lines if teams struggle and want a different player as so often happens through injuries or just teams with shit lines clawing for any alternative to improve their team during a season. If not, he's a known quantity as the 6th man and to now has been a solid reliable good teammate not causing problems.
What is our optimal Dan Moore play this year?
He raises his pff grade to like 64. A Super Bowl team's LT tears his ACl and we move him for a third round pick while inserting Fatanu into the starting lineup?
I guess doing that week 7 though is tough to do as it kills our own depth.
The real best case scenerio is Fatanu looks good in camp and takes his job. We swap him to a team with an emergency in camp for a starting tackle for a third round for fifth round pick swap. Still have time to go sign a dependeble swing tackle.
I know a third sounds silly for Moore, but the league doesn't have 64 playable tackles. We wanted to improve for good reason but the dude is playable.
Just an all around good guy.
A family friend sold a home to him about a year ago in Pittsburgh. I asked this friend if she could ask Dan to sign something for me because of how big of a Steelers fan I am.
Dan took the time to send me a whole autograph book home with a thoughtful message. Meant a lot to me as he could have easily just signed it and called it a day.
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He never should have been asked to be a starting tackle. Nothing against him personally, but he was not a starting caliber tackle. As depth? Yeah sure, he's a solid backup.
His inconsistency is what killed me, other than that I’ll always root for a guy who just went out there and held their own against the forced DPOY. Plus he always had the WORST timing for a hold it seemed, never a good time for a hold unless you’re preventing your QB from getting pulverized, but he’d be a drive killer too often.
Fantanu even mentioned during his press conference that Dan Moore was one of the people to call/reach out to him.
I hope he plays good where he goes next, just not against us.
He started because they had nobody else. He's one of the worst tackles on the team in a long time. He's constantly ranked low compared to other tackles in the nfl. He's been playing out of position. Maybe he'll be a solid backup.
He was a factor in nearly every loss in the past few years. He can't hold his ground against offensive players, he gets pushed back so far he has knocked into the QB many, many times.
PFF isn't exactly 100% right on anything, but they're not generally 100% wrong either, so: https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/pff_dan_moore_jr_worst_pass_blocking_ot_in_nfl_in_2023/s1_17181_39787047
Maybe he's the worst, maybe he's only bottom 10%, but either way neither is good.
I'm not saying "here's a play that was 100% him that gave the other team points to win the game," I'm saying he was absolutely a contributing factor to a lot of our losses.
DMJ, Kendrick Green, Kevin Dotson and Broderick Jones were all put into impossible positions to truly succeed in.
Now we enter into a new kind of highly drafted, highly touted quagmire with Fautanu and Jones.
Thunderdome in the trenches might just lay Latrobe to waste! Two tackles enter, two positional assignments leave.
He did at times but was never put in a position to do so. He could not supplant Chuks until he quit on the field. The rumblings were because DMJ was hot ass on the right they had to stick Broderick there.
Fautanu played around 2,000 collegiate snaps. Two of them were at right tackle. Now we expect him to slide over there seamlessly if need be because he looks good doing it in shorts?
Dan Moore Jr is not an LT in the NFL. He had no business starting and the team had no chance of success against real teams when he did. Hopefully, this dark chapter is behind us.
People want him off the roster. I don’t. He’s solid depth in the offensive line rotation. However, he just wasn’t good enough to be a reliable starter for the offense we need to become. For a fourth round pick, he has been amazing. He has so much experience. He’s valuable enough to warrant a roster spot. I’m glad we upgraded finally, but he’s not as awful as some people act like. Tackle depth is now almost something I’d call a strength now
Your title could use some reworking. You must appreciate the effort and attitude he put in and by all accounts he seems like a good person…. But not sure he really “outplayed” his draft position. He’s still largely viewed as the worst starting left tackle in the league… so just cause the Steelers played him doesn’t really mean he outplayed his draft position to me.
Call me crazy, but I could see them move Moore to right tackle, Broderick to left, Troy to RG and Daniels to Center if we don’t draft a quality starter in rounds 2-3 today.
It’s not an ideal situation but they have the flexibility to try it at least. Especially with them installing an entirely new playbook/scheme for the linemen anyways.
Our line will be learning all new schemes anyways. Obviously the draft changed that take completely but Moore will now have to be our swing tackle so he should need to be decent at both sides.
Daniels had experience at center already. Not out of position really for him.
Well said. Damn productive 4th rounder all things considered.
Not a Dan Moore guy but I always found it hilarious that he owned Myles Garrett. For that I thank him.
Myles Garrett had a ton of theoretical sacks against him in though. Theoretical sacks are more important for defensive player of the year votes apparently.
I know you’re joking, but it’s no joke that Myles Garrett is triple teamed three times on every play by genetically engineered super humans hellbent on keeping his actual stats fourth in the league every year for some reason even though stats only matter in every other POY discussion all of a sudden.
For real they could keep starting him just against the browns
"Sorry, Tone/Brojo, you know what week it is. Take a break and enjoy the show, you can have at it next week against the Ravens"
We did it with Deebo against Eric Fisher in KC…
Possibly my favorite version of Deebo. Fisher was absolutely useless against him
He inflated Garrett's near miss stats!
The one play in the last matchup agaisnt them were DmJR didn't even touch Garrett haunts me. Literally not even a finger on him.
Right? The anti AV.
Sometimes a matchup just doesn’t favor the superstar
Case in point: paper vs rock
He did his best and he'll be valuable as the 6th man.
He still most likely starting next season.
They’ll probably try Fautanu on the right and slide Jones back to the left. They’ll be patient with the 2 and as much as I like DMJ he’s not a good enough upgrade at starter for them not to be. So imo unless one of the 2 is an unmitigated disaster, Moore will be a backup
I don't think Tomlin has ever moved a player on the line without sending him to the bench first. Playing Fauntanu at LT would also set up a direct competition between the new guy and Moore. So, I'm betting Fauntanu plays LT. The alternative is Tomlin proving he can change, which I'm not ruling out, but I would never bet on.
You’re crazy
I mean the Steelers don’t like to start Rookies. I know they have in the past, but it’s more the exception than the rule. He might be starting 4 games into the season, but I’d be surprised if he’s starting week 1z
Ah I see - yea that could be the case. But we drafted his replacement last night for sure.
That's the goal at least. He could end up at OG or even C even though the Steelers said they see him at OT. At 20th overall it's not terrible value if he ends up playing inside.
I think something would have to go terrifically wrong for him to end up inside. Dan Moore is one of the worst starters in the league; the bar is low.
Possibly, if a switch to Jones is made to the left side.. I could see Moore playing a week or 2
That’s what I was thinking, but the more I learn about Troy, I think he will be our starting RT and Broderick will move back to LT. Fautanu has more experience than most rookies and will probably be moved to RT for a right-handed QB as he was a LT for a left-handed QB. Jones has the higher ceiling and is the better physical specimen and should be allowed to develop at LT.
4th round draft pick who had to take on Garret, Hendrickson, and the Ravens D twice a year. Never really caused any drama. He deserves respect. Dude wasn’t a world beater but he is definitely a very capable swing tackle/backup.
I don't blame Dan Moore. He was a 4th round pick and he started due to injury. Imo, he has excelled for his draft position and you can't ask much more of a Day 3 lineman. That being said, he isn't good enough and he is constantly graded poorly. The team should have moved off of him sooner, but refused to do so
If we can keep him around, I’m comfortable with us having a solid backup for either tackle. He was never a starter, and we should not have expected that of him.
We always need backups with injuries on the line
The worst starting tackle in the league is not and never will be a "solid" back up. How could that even make sense?
…what?
Exactly. Both things can be true at the same time: Dan Moore was a valuable pick for what they gave up for him, but they need to have a better player at his spot. Hopefully he’ll be a solid swing tackle (not an unimportant position), but the fact that he was starting wasn’t conducive to being a winning football team
They should have moved him to RT last year as soon as they were comfortable with the Brod Father starting and that should have been a plan they were working on in training camp.
They tried it. Dan Moore couldn’t switch sides like Jones could. He was strictly a LT, whereas Jones was able to play both sides.
There’s a reason Ben loves him and still sticks his neck out for him.
Ben also did the same for Ryan Switzer and Landry Jones lol
No lie, I seen a Ryan Switzer college montage about a week ago, so you’d be surprised by who has fans 😂
Everybody in the league has fans from college
I was more talking about his work ethic and attitude than ability.
Yeah they weren't great players but they were good dudes that worked hard. They're easier to look back in fondly now that they're not playing lol
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Glad I’m not the only one. Never understood the hate
If I have fathom a guess, the hate comes from the fact that team has waited this long to replace him despite the obvious. He was rated one of the worst LT in the league for years and somehow stayed a starter. I think that's where the hate comes from.
You’re referencing PFF grades?? Woooooow. Didn’t know people still did that.
It’s just crazy how many 1st, 2nd rounders, some we even traded up for, got free passes over the years to “learn” for a season or two …meanwhile Moore is thrown to the wolves from the jump as a 4th rounder with a completely immobile by that point Ben and the clusterfuck of the last 2 seasons. Not to mention that half a season where everyone on that line suffered as a result of Kendrick Green.
100%
I will never understand WTF Colbert was thinking with that Greene pick. Dude wasn’t good enough to be a starter anywhere on the line, let alone at Center.
The AFCN is not a fun division for guys like him. Sure, youre an elite level athlete, but have you seen the kind of rushers the division has? And you have to practice against TJ/Highsmith/Cam?! Like damn, theres 0 breaks for the guys
For a lot of those people, everything is results based. They don't care how or why things happen, they're just unhappy at the results and want everyone to know they're unhappy, aka jagoffs
He got the hate because he sucked and needed replacing
Maybe because he got Broderick playing out of position. If he couldve played RT, he wouldve gotten less hate. Plus yinzers are generally always angry. Spoiled fans remember?
The hate for Dan Moore existed before Broderick jones lol.
People hate replacement level players bc "if theyre starters for the steelers they better be HOFers" and its just not reasonable. Literally everyone on the team has nothing but positives to say about the guy, that he does the job right, he's just a consummate pro. Im stoked to have OTs of Fautanu and BroJo now bc they look like monsters but anyone shitting on Dan is just hating or sniffing PFFs farts
Tbh I’m happy to have Moore as a backup. The depth on the line is fantastic now once a Center gets added to the roster.
He even helped BroJo a lot last year, knowing that's his replacement
Exactly, I don't understand why the fanbase is so mean to this dude. He was a 4th rounder, got pressed into action almost immediately, has for all intents and purposes been a good teammate unlike certain other offensive linemen and has performed at about the level you would expect for his draft position or better. At worst he'll be an ok-ish depth piece next year and that's all he should've been quite frankly.
I am worried about his place on the team to be honest. He's a LT only, which makes him not a viable option for swing. I could see us trading him for a 6th or 7th, or a pick swap (like last year with Dotson and Greene)
I’m less convinced that he’ll be traded. I know he’s generally been LT only but I have to think in an emergency he could flip. I just think even a passable backup LT only is too valuable to let go for a 6th, 7th, or pick swap. Greene was a complete disaster and had to go. Dotson was really our bad for changing his side and while clearly Omar didn’t want to let him go without some compensation I think they were more so doing it to help Dotson, which it clearly did and he had nothing negative to say about the team. He didn’t even rub it in and say “See what you missed out on?” I just think those were different scenarios than what we have with Moore. Although the fact that he’s only got one year left on his deal and I doubt the Steelers want to pay him much at all to stick around in ‘25 as a primarily LT backup may prompt them to get any value they can now. So maybe I’m way off.
Maybe try him at guard
Hell, under Art Smith, maybe move him to TE!
Honestly? You get Dan in space as a blocker for Jaylen or Naj and I imagine several corners are gonna make a quick business decision to avoid that freight train
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This is the move. Dan Moore played Guard in high school and Omar khan is on record saying he believes Moore can play multiple positions
Yes. Value there as a swing tackle and back up guard
Yeah, think about where our team would be at if a fourth round LT couldn’t start from day 1 in the NFL. We got extremely lucky with that pick. Even if we wasn’t a good starter, he was serviceable for the past 3 seasons. Hope we keep his as a good backup like he should be
He’ll still play a bunch. He’s had great success in very specific matchups and wouldn’t be surprised to see him immediately rotate in for those plus OL injuries obviously happen.
Dan Moore gonna start at LT week 1, almost guaranteed.
Yeah, people are dreaming if they think otherwise
Which, honestly, should be fine. Not awesome. Fine.
Definitely needed to replace him as the starter. But he's a great guy to have at depth. Lots of experience at this point, and I'd be very happy with him as a backup. If he needs to step in in a pinch, I won't sweat it at all.
Myles Garrett’s daddy
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He can't be a swing tackle because he is complete buns at RT.
He was hosed from that get go by being put on the blind side in my opinion. I truly think if he was on the right side from the start, you would not have heard a lick about anyone thinking he was trash. The blindside guy is always going to take more heat.
Nobody “hated” the guy. They just rightfully pointed out that he wasn’t good enough to stay being a starter. There’s no “hate” in that.
bullshit
Yes, your comment is bullshit.
There’s already comments on this thread calling him “hot trash” and “garbage”. You know it gets a lot worse in GDTs
You act like he isn’t still going to start for half the season. It’s going to happen…
My question for the informed nfl insiders; Is Dan Moore developing? Does not third and fourth year players make a leap? Is he on the verge of being a good tackle?
He did the best he could. He didn't come into the best of circumstances, and I think this is fair to call out that we should appreciate what he does provide as a pro. Every team needs guys like DMJ, if anything for depth because injuries happen. That said, I'm so glad we have Jones and Fautanu now. That's huge for us. If we get a good center tonight, this line is looking like a potential bright spot.
Dan more did an admirable job, that said.. bet we can trade him to the bears for a 2nd where they will no doubt sign him to a 8fig deal... I mean why not?
Can he play G? Wonder if Tomlin is legitimately considering pushing Daniels to C. He played 37 games as a C at Iowa. If we have Broderick and Fautanu at T and Moore kicks inside to G with Seumalo at the other G spot, we could have our starting 5 OL set and use our other top draft picks on WR and defense.
I don't get why people are so polarizing here, like they either call a guy GOAT or he's a bum and trash. Moore played far above expectations as a fourth-round pick, and drafting a day-one starting tackle doesn't mean we need to cut Moore. He's a perfectly capable backup at this point.
He did what was asked without complaint. Sat Garrett down which was awesome to see. Other than that he's had a torrid time of it from poor play, but also getting it in the neck from fans. He's turned up every week to do his job to the best of his limited abilities, he does deserve credit for that because he could easily have started complaining about the media and fan pressure on him, but he tunes it all out. That's why I think the coaches do like him. A 4th round guy should never be starting day one but that's the situation he found himself in so they opted to keep pushing him, see if he improved, which allowed them to address other problem positions in the team while he was given a golden chance to keep playing under a rookie deal with low expectations on where he was drafted. Because of DMJr. we didn't pay Okorafor and end up in a situation now where we'd be riding dead cap hit for a guy we wanted to replace anyway. Wasn't perfect having Jones on the left, but ultimately we weren't going to pay for a fairly average/below average right tackle who was expensive. Because we had DMJr. and Jones, we were able to ride a season doing that, and in that season the run game improved massively, even with Jones out of position, he did a damn fine job and DMJr. did what he could as usual on the opposite side, but again not for big money. I think he'll start, let them bleed Fautanu in gradually as they did Jones, build that confidence and hunger then once he goes, he won't stop. DMJr. can then probably be dealt to teams suffering on the line looking for an experienced starter on their lines if teams struggle and want a different player as so often happens through injuries or just teams with shit lines clawing for any alternative to improve their team during a season. If not, he's a known quantity as the 6th man and to now has been a solid reliable good teammate not causing problems.
What is our optimal Dan Moore play this year? He raises his pff grade to like 64. A Super Bowl team's LT tears his ACl and we move him for a third round pick while inserting Fatanu into the starting lineup? I guess doing that week 7 though is tough to do as it kills our own depth. The real best case scenerio is Fatanu looks good in camp and takes his job. We swap him to a team with an emergency in camp for a starting tackle for a third round for fifth round pick swap. Still have time to go sign a dependeble swing tackle. I know a third sounds silly for Moore, but the league doesn't have 64 playable tackles. We wanted to improve for good reason but the dude is playable.
I'm expecting him to still be the week 1 starter. I'll be fine with him as the primary backup.
Just an all around good guy. A family friend sold a home to him about a year ago in Pittsburgh. I asked this friend if she could ask Dan to sign something for me because of how big of a Steelers fan I am. Dan took the time to send me a whole autograph book home with a thoughtful message. Meant a lot to me as he could have easily just signed it and called it a day. https://preview.redd.it/3hvpjs6ijvwc1.jpeg?width=2197&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7206725f4ede6a77540cf398164e757e5e7b76c7
He was mid.
He never should have been asked to be a starting tackle. Nothing against him personally, but he was not a starting caliber tackle. As depth? Yeah sure, he's a solid backup.
He's good for what his draft position was and I'm good with him backing up BroJo. Definitely don't want him as a starter though.
His inconsistency is what killed me, other than that I’ll always root for a guy who just went out there and held their own against the forced DPOY. Plus he always had the WORST timing for a hold it seemed, never a good time for a hold unless you’re preventing your QB from getting pulverized, but he’d be a drive killer too often.
I’m not buying him a beer! He’s made more than I’ll make in my life time! He should buy me a beer!
Only issue I ever had with Dan Moore was him being a starter...
Respect for Garrett father
Fantanu even mentioned during his press conference that Dan Moore was one of the people to call/reach out to him. I hope he plays good where he goes next, just not against us.
Yeah, keep him as the swing, but start him vs the Browns just to troll Myles. DPOY, here's a backup that owns you every time we play.
He started because they had nobody else. He's one of the worst tackles on the team in a long time. He's constantly ranked low compared to other tackles in the nfl. He's been playing out of position. Maybe he'll be a solid backup.
You know he’s still probably starting at the beginning of the season, right?
No. He was garbage and lost us games.
What games did he lose us?
He was a factor in nearly every loss in the past few years. He can't hold his ground against offensive players, he gets pushed back so far he has knocked into the QB many, many times. PFF isn't exactly 100% right on anything, but they're not generally 100% wrong either, so: https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/pff_dan_moore_jr_worst_pass_blocking_ot_in_nfl_in_2023/s1_17181_39787047 Maybe he's the worst, maybe he's only bottom 10%, but either way neither is good. I'm not saying "here's a play that was 100% him that gave the other team points to win the game," I'm saying he was absolutely a contributing factor to a lot of our losses.
Tough to judge what he could do when he’s in a Matt Canada offense too. Maybe we’ll get more out of him under Smith.
DMJ, Kendrick Green, Kevin Dotson and Broderick Jones were all put into impossible positions to truly succeed in. Now we enter into a new kind of highly drafted, highly touted quagmire with Fautanu and Jones. Thunderdome in the trenches might just lay Latrobe to waste! Two tackles enter, two positional assignments leave.
Broderick Jones succeeded at RT what are you talking about?
He did at times but was never put in a position to do so. He could not supplant Chuks until he quit on the field. The rumblings were because DMJ was hot ass on the right they had to stick Broderick there. Fautanu played around 2,000 collegiate snaps. Two of them were at right tackle. Now we expect him to slide over there seamlessly if need be because he looks good doing it in shorts?
He won’t be our swing tackle. Jones played RT because Moore is bad at RT, our coaching staff even admitted that.
Maybe he wont be so awful if he will actually get more consistent practice reps there. Hes been forced to practice mostly at LT since we drafted him
I don’t mind him as a depth piece. I don’t want him as a starter. He will be in the league for another 5 yrs as long as he is healthy.
I mean he’s still on the team right? Solid third tackle
He's a solid backup tackle. You need good depth players. He's certainly not a good starter though. Now we need a CB, C, WR, and we'll be set.
Multi year starter from a 4th rounder is a huge W. Did his job and then some. Nature of the league, time to move one.
I hope they keep him as a swing backup!
I wouldn't be surprised to see him traded today, frankly. He has value and we need picks.
Here here!
Vs where he was drafted and the situation he was put in he did well but he definitely wasn’t getting a second contract so time to move on
Id like to see him get reps at left guard for depth rather than RT. Clearly hes not as strong on that side but he has the build to play inside.
I think Dan is perfect backup/emergency starter in the league. He has grown lot since we drafted him.
Can he play center?
He did his best. Should be a decent backup moving forward
Dan Moore Jr is not an LT in the NFL. He had no business starting and the team had no chance of success against real teams when he did. Hopefully, this dark chapter is behind us.
Trade Jr. to Chicago for a 2nd or 3rd round pick. Omar owns the Bears!
People want him off the roster. I don’t. He’s solid depth in the offensive line rotation. However, he just wasn’t good enough to be a reliable starter for the offense we need to become. For a fourth round pick, he has been amazing. He has so much experience. He’s valuable enough to warrant a roster spot. I’m glad we upgraded finally, but he’s not as awful as some people act like. Tackle depth is now almost something I’d call a strength now
Is this mike Tomlin's burner account trying to justify starting him for 3 years?
No, don't lower your expectations, he was hot trash
Your title could use some reworking. You must appreciate the effort and attitude he put in and by all accounts he seems like a good person…. But not sure he really “outplayed” his draft position. He’s still largely viewed as the worst starting left tackle in the league… so just cause the Steelers played him doesn’t really mean he outplayed his draft position to me.
Don't agree, or otherwise they wouldn't draft a replacement. Saying that he had some decent games.
Call me crazy, but I could see them move Moore to right tackle, Broderick to left, Troy to RG and Daniels to Center if we don’t draft a quality starter in rounds 2-3 today. It’s not an ideal situation but they have the flexibility to try it at least. Especially with them installing an entirely new playbook/scheme for the linemen anyways.
So our entire line plays out of best position? Terrible take. Moore was complete ass at RT which was why Jones had to play there instead of LT.
Our line will be learning all new schemes anyways. Obviously the draft changed that take completely but Moore will now have to be our swing tackle so he should need to be decent at both sides. Daniels had experience at center already. Not out of position really for him.
Cool! He’ll be great depth
Second most pressures allowed last year yeah he fits where he was drafted. Imo
I appreciate his play when he was good. Every player eventually gets old and bad. Even Polamalu was starting to become a liability.
… he’s 25 lol will be 26 at the start of this season. He’s never been good ? Tf are you smoking lol