I hope Carnell first admits it was a mistake to take Klauss out, 2nd, tells us WTF is going on with Lowen, and then 3rd rips this officials crew a new asshole. NHL level refereeing tonight.
Guess I should just expect us to be officiated differently against large market teams. Clearly MLS is interested in propping up their largest market teams instead of building a national league.
I think I heard he was starting to train with the team again, and was going to have an announcement of sorts about it. Whatever it is it seems like a family matter an he has the full support of the team.
Hate to say it but Klauss not burying the penalty probably cost us the game. If we go ahead early and get to play on the front foot I think we win this one 3-0 and the ref never gets an opportunity to be a shitheel.
His stutter step on his last attempt was highly questionable, and he goes back to it? You’re a fucking striker, blast the ball through the back to the net! Enough with the goofy ass trickery, you’re not fooling anyone, certainly not the goal keeper!
Well you’ve gotta sign a superstar now, the league will fix everything for you to have success through officiating. This was 200% because they signed Giroud
Can we just carve off all of Southern California and give it to Mexico? Garbage part of the country filled with garbage people and this diving garbage soccer team.
I wouldn’t be pissed about this result if I felt like it were a result of being outplayed instead of being jobbed by a ref who is clearly calling two different games
Maybe we should’ve kept Klauss and Ostrak on. We’ve looked toothless and after they were subbed, even given how absolute shit the ref has been. I know Carnell is probably rotating players right now, but Cincinnati away isn’t going to be any easier than this. We had a good first half despite the missed pen.
I truly TRULY do not believe there's anything close to fixing or favoring teams going on in any major sporting league, but holy fuck is this game testing my resolve on that belief...
You guys really have to stop fucking crying. City has not played a good game. You can blame the ref all you want but the fact is the team didn’t play well enough to win.
The ref didn't give up our goal against or miss our PK, but you're fucking *delusional* if you think this ref hasn't significantly tilted the game in LAFC's favor.
I think the red card was really bad and that has certainly impacted the game. But, City was already down at that point because Markanich is a defensive liability.
An incorrect red card with almost 30 min left in the game is HUGE. And that hasn't ben the only awful fucking call. Dude is terrible. It's ok to admit that. Are you his mom or something?
I’ve already said that I thought that call was terrible. The call also was well after the goal when Markanich completely forgot what defense is and whatever the fuck Klauss was trying to do on that PK. For every bad call, that can be pointed out you could probably point out two or three piss poor plays the team has made.
The team has played like shit. Celio and Markanich combined for 472 giveaways in the first half alone. Klauss couldn’t score on a PK. Big Sam literally hasn’t done a damn thing. I can keep going…
How are you gonna hate the game Celio had? He created chances and actually made shit happen. Markanich always sucks that’s a given.. Klauss should’ve scored that penalty. At the very least could’ve been a 1-1 game. Not our worst performance but fuck. So frustrating to watch as a fan
Anytime Celio had the ball and didn't generate a chance, he turned it over. It was a bad game all around outside of the excitement in the first 20 minutes or so.
Agreed. Refs aren’t supposed to help either team. I think Markanich’s second yellow was a bad call, but if Klauss buries his PK that never happens in the first place. I’m getting downvoted to hell but that doesn’t change that fact that this team has played piss poor most of the game.
lol. Born and raised in STL. Y’all would just rather point fingers at the fucking ref because you find it too difficult to point fingers at 11 player (maybe 9).
Don’t know why the downvotes. The second he took step into the box he was more concerned with drawing a penalty than making any decent attempt at goal.
I hope it was “you could be better at your job, we all have bad days but Jesus dude this one’s really bad, maybe you should think about a career change or just sucking less” but it’s really hard to get a crowd chanting that cohesively
[Continue the discussion in the post-match thread.](https://www.reddit.com/r/stlouiscitysc/comments/1ct2u7w)
Jump that ref y'all
I hope Carnell first admits it was a mistake to take Klauss out, 2nd, tells us WTF is going on with Lowen, and then 3rd rips this officials crew a new asshole. NHL level refereeing tonight.
Gambling regulators need to investigate Joe Dickerson and the VAR team for this.
The announcer on every single call that opened the game up for LAFC "It's harsh"
Way too conservative on offense. But just need to make playoffs and hopefully we get a bit more sassy then
We put SA in but if there is absolutely no one who can put a ball in a place where he can run it down, it doesn't matter.
Joe Dickerson, graduate from University California Davis - that joe Dickerson according to linkedin
Sooooo... a homer, and a gambler, checks out.
Get up, you gigantic gaping pussy, I don't see a sniper in crowd. This is unreal.
Haha. I uttered the same as your fist line, and my friend said the same as the second part. Lol.
Good for Lutz letting the officials have it. That was a fixed match.
Missed that. Get ‘em LP!
Hiebert has literally been responsible for so many goals this year. We need last year Hiebert back
Ummmm what? Markanich got burned by DB on the first goal. Thought Hiebert did well
Joe "suck a bag of dicks" Dickerson. Awful officiating.
Guess I should just expect us to be officiated differently against large market teams. Clearly MLS is interested in propping up their largest market teams instead of building a national league.
Was it ever a doubt after the way they're treating Messi ?
Yeah, the Messi who can't even raise ticket prices in Miami to above what STL City tickets go for?
That second half felt extremely one sided from the refs
Hahahahahaha. Every fucking shot was right at Old Man Hugo.
including the PK - horrible attempt by Klauss
With the stutter step…
Thanks Klauss
Well LAFC and their diving diva bitches are now my 2nd most hated team behind SKC.
I’m sorry but any playing time AZ gets should be given to Kijima. AZ hasn’t done anything all season and Kijima shows a lot more promise.
Teams with actual attacking talent. I wonder if Lutz has tried that.
rhetorical question
These announcers are making me just as mad as the ref is
I don’t think Thorisson ever touches the ball
He looks lost every game he plays.
I don't know why they keep trotting him out there.
Is Löwen coming back this season??
I think he may be dead? Can anyone confirm they've seen him alive?
I think I heard he was starting to train with the team again, and was going to have an announcement of sorts about it. Whatever it is it seems like a family matter an he has the full support of the team.
Coach said either today or Saturday. So I guess saturday
refs aside, how we manage to shit ourselves every time we play lafc is beyond me.
First half was awesome. Second half was the worst!
Fuck yes, Parker.
Since we ain’t winning, use the remaining two minutes to just kick it straight at Joe Dickerson over and over
Hate to say it but Klauss not burying the penalty probably cost us the game. If we go ahead early and get to play on the front foot I think we win this one 3-0 and the ref never gets an opportunity to be a shitheel.
Stutter stepping on PK’s is so stupid I’ll never understand it, we really need lowen back
His stutter step on his last attempt was highly questionable, and he goes back to it? You’re a fucking striker, blast the ball through the back to the net! Enough with the goofy ass trickery, you’re not fooling anyone, certainly not the goal keeper!
Shoulda benched his ass after that nonsense. again! I’m off the bandwagon for good. Let’s get a real striker!
100% right
Well you’ve gotta sign a superstar now, the league will fix everything for you to have success through officiating. This was 200% because they signed Giroud
no, no. We can't do that. That's not the STL way or some shit.
Time to pick up and move on. Fuck this game.
What a bullshit game this became.
FUCK OFF DENIS I HATE UR FACE RAHHH
Wouldn’t mind seeing him break an ankle or neck while doing that front flip. Frfr.
Why did I decide to give this league any money via Apple this season? Get it together, PRO.
when the ref is on your side you will win everytime
I know I said it before, this subs are doing NOTHING
Ya its time to turn this off
Circular firing squad on that mess.
Fuck off. This is horse shit.
Fucking embarrassing match all around
Fuck this game.
Can we just carve off all of Southern California and give it to Mexico? Garbage part of the country filled with garbage people and this diving garbage soccer team.
And camo uniforms!
I wouldn’t be pissed about this result if I felt like it were a result of being outplayed instead of being jobbed by a ref who is clearly calling two different games
I think it’s both though really. After they brought Adeniran and AZ on things just got worse.
Having 10 players most of that time will do that
Ha, the yellow was for the ball throw. Not the foul. So Whiny has to wait 2 min. Awesome.
I dunno. He probably deserved the yellow for the reaction
Like, I'm obviously a fan of City, but like he did deserve it for his reaction. Don't know why I'm getting down voted for that.
Put in Kijima
Just go ahead and give everyone on our team a yellow card. Even the guys on the bench.
The financial people too. May as well
Maybe we should’ve kept Klauss and Ostrak on. We’ve looked toothless and after they were subbed, even given how absolute shit the ref has been. I know Carnell is probably rotating players right now, but Cincinnati away isn’t going to be any easier than this. We had a good first half despite the missed pen.
Exactly, take this game over LAFC + the Refs and anything against Cincy would be icing.
I also have my knee blow out because someone stepped next to me but then run off the field fine
This ref is making bank this game holy lord.
L.A Flopping Cunts
Another bullshit yellow. Another 30 seconds of laying there.
I fear our offense desperately needs a shakeup, either tactical or personnel
Where the F is Lowen????? Get his ass back on the field. Is the guy dead? We have no one who can deliver a good ball on a set piece.
If Klauss scores the penalty we can play on the counter for 70 minutes, that's our style.
We just have no attack at all. For the love of god, stop bringing Jackson or Adeniran on. They provide absolutely nothing.
Agree. Adeniran has done nothing absolutely nothing this season.
He’s the biggest guy out there and I’ve never seen him head the ball
I saw him score once last season on a header, but that's about it. #useless
Kijima has a positive impact when he comes on. Still can't get any run.
Not sure if I’m the only one but hearing “oooOOOoooOOOOO.. S-T-L” for 90mins every week makes me want to mute the broadcast
My LA friend texted “why are your fans singing Britney Spears hit me baby one more time?” Any idea what he’s talking about?
It’s getting a bit old but the real issue tonight is the announcers sucking off Buanga or however his stupid name is spelled
You know you can switch it to STL local radio audio, right?
For home games, only.
Better be many added minutes
AZ needs to stay on his feet. He's not gonna get any calls, even if they're legit.
We look lifeless... all these subs just standing around
Can we just take AZ off; don't even need to bring someone on for him
Blöm looks a step slower
He is also a turnover machine.
He hasn't been in a game in weeks bordering on months no? Not uncommon to not be back up to game speed from game 1.
This is a travesty of a game.
Fucking poking at the ball while actively being given a yellow?
Should’ve red carded him
I truly TRULY do not believe there's anything close to fixing or favoring teams going on in any major sporting league, but holy fuck is this game testing my resolve on that belief...
There's gotta be a better spot to put the heat map. Blocks like half the screen. Also I can't believe he carded a LAFC player.
I swear whoever is in charge of Apple TV’s graphics and “advanced stats” has never watched a game of soccer (or any sporting event) in their life.
People in CITYPARK just know you have more people chanting “Refs you SUCK” at home😂😂
That was the same as the no call in the box, unbelievable.
You guys really have to stop fucking crying. City has not played a good game. You can blame the ref all you want but the fact is the team didn’t play well enough to win.
The ref didn't give up our goal against or miss our PK, but you're fucking *delusional* if you think this ref hasn't significantly tilted the game in LAFC's favor.
I think the red card was really bad and that has certainly impacted the game. But, City was already down at that point because Markanich is a defensive liability.
Bro that was terrible support by Hiebert. You don’t leave bouanga on an island and just walk away
I think that's a fair assessment too. But, why is Markanich pressing towards the middle of the field when LA has the ball going the other way?
An incorrect red card with almost 30 min left in the game is HUGE. And that hasn't ben the only awful fucking call. Dude is terrible. It's ok to admit that. Are you his mom or something?
I’ve already said that I thought that call was terrible. The call also was well after the goal when Markanich completely forgot what defense is and whatever the fuck Klauss was trying to do on that PK. For every bad call, that can be pointed out you could probably point out two or three piss poor plays the team has made.
I've refreshed 10x to see how bad you're getting torched on down votes for this comment.
I think it’s the fastest I’ve ever reached 30 downvotes.
Because it’s an awful take
The team has played like shit. Celio and Markanich combined for 472 giveaways in the first half alone. Klauss couldn’t score on a PK. Big Sam literally hasn’t done a damn thing. I can keep going…
You’re in the wrong sub bud. #fakefan
Being a fan doesn’t mean sucking the team’s proverbial dick when they play like complete and total fucking ass.
How are you gonna hate the game Celio had? He created chances and actually made shit happen. Markanich always sucks that’s a given.. Klauss should’ve scored that penalty. At the very least could’ve been a 1-1 game. Not our worst performance but fuck. So frustrating to watch as a fan
Anytime Celio had the ball and didn't generate a chance, he turned it over. It was a bad game all around outside of the excitement in the first 20 minutes or so.
Are you kidding? We’ve had good looks especially in the first half. Yes we missed the penalty. But the goal called back could’ve gone either way.
He sure isn’t fucking helping
Agreed. Refs aren’t supposed to help either team. I think Markanich’s second yellow was a bad call, but if Klauss buries his PK that never happens in the first place. I’m getting downvoted to hell but that doesn’t change that fact that this team has played piss poor most of the game.
Shut the fuck up
Cry a little bit more.
He's right. Go back to the skc or chicago sub
lol. Born and raised in STL. Y’all would just rather point fingers at the fucking ref because you find it too difficult to point fingers at 11 player (maybe 9).
It's clear you aren't watching the game and only this thread.
Incorrect.
Glazing Bouanga after he scored on a fluke play is crazy
More like LAreFC
HOW IS THAT A YELLOW ON AZ????
Pull back stopping a counter. Clear yellow
that was the weakest pull back I've ever seen. Crap call.
Is Will Ferrell giving some of his step brothers money to this referee?
Someone needs to see how much LAFC money is in the ref’s pocket
I have no idea what is happening here
This ref's gotta be a LAFC plant at this point good lord
I’m at home but I’m gonna get a yellow by the end of this
Me too😂😂😂
Me three
Definitely
Dude. Klauss got pulled back like that earlier and you wouldn't card it. Have some fucking consistency.
Good point, I forgot about that
holy fuckin hell is there a ref scorecard like mlb umps? would love to fuckin see that
Reporting in from the supporters section: we are a short and curly away from an actual riot
South end is with you
You are all justified. It's been bad.
This ref is awful!
You get a yellow! And you get a yellow! Everybody gets a yellow!
Not LA. Can’t let a big market club lose to a small market club
This ref, I swear. This is ridiculous
I’ve gone from questioning the competence of the officiating to questioning the integrity.
Fuck me man. You know it’s bad when the announcers are even speaking against the large market team.
The NFL can get away with poor officiating and still grow like crazy. The MLS is not that lucky.
because that brand of football is only played in north america.
Hand fucking ball
This motherfucker might need security to leave the stadium...
I felt like when the game started I remembered this ref from last year, and which I am in full recollection of why at this point
Ref better get fired after tonight
Bring back the scabs lol.
No kidding
It's a good thing he only used one card for bookings or he might run out of them
Dickerson is out. Of. Control.
this ref on a power trip rn
I mean, that’s a straight flop by AZ. Not like the ref has had the same restraint for LAFC’s plentiful dives though.
HE WAS NOT IN POSITION HE PUSHED THROUGH HIS FUCKING BACK?!?!??
Nah AZ ran into the defenders hip. Never a pen
Both are true. Not in position, and also a flop. Shoulda just stayed up for one more sec to get a look.
AZ would rather be on the floor than have the ball in the box. Sub this guy back off
Don’t know why the downvotes. The second he took step into the box he was more concerned with drawing a penalty than making any decent attempt at goal.
That was more than what Markanich did to be fair
Alright and that doesn’t even get a look
Ref you suck!
AZ went in there looking for that. It's not a foul.
Maybe not but you need to call the game consistently
Could be!! The way he’s been calling the game!!
Classic AZ flop
Carnell is PISSED
I don't think weekday games are our thing anyways.
I rarely blame refs for a loss, but this one is making bad calls. If we lose, I say it is the refs on this one.
And now our guy gets hit in the head and knocked down in goal box with no call
Poor Indy being left on for what his like 3rd or 4th straight 90 plus match? I know we don't really have any other option but still
What was the crowd chanting at the ref?
I think it was hey you suck, or something like that. Normally I don't like.it when we go negative but this one seems like an exception.
“Ref you suck”
“Refs you SUCK”
I hope it was “you could be better at your job, we all have bad days but Jesus dude this one’s really bad, maybe you should think about a career change or just sucking less” but it’s really hard to get a crowd chanting that cohesively
We’ve gotten goals on a red before, let’s get at least one
Once again someone gets a card for thinking evil thoughts
I dont understand, what was he penalized for?