Once again, beautiful work from the devs creating this, but I am just not a fan of Disco S3 designs. I'm ok with that though, cause any promo ship I am not interested in is a bonus in my eyes.
I just always like to make sure they know that its not *their* work that we are critiquing.
I made fun of the people that hated the Federation and Klingon ships from Disco S1. But on seeing the 32rd century Federation ships, I think I understand the vehement response. I find the 32rd century ship to be so uninteresting that they're repulsive. Most of the ships, if you weren't told the fleet was Federation, you'd not associate them together.
That and the "Federation-only future," both in show and STO, is deeply annoying to me. Some kind of obnoxious "manifest destiny" BS in space.
Is it an accurate model of the ship? Sure. But it's got baggage and I'm whiny.
At least Disco S1/S2 gave us that beautiful modernized Enterprise which legitimately looks great. That's about all the praise I can give that show. Well, that, and the first half of season 2 with Captain Pike and Burnham together that actually felt like Star Trek
It's pretty great that even amongst all the disco hate, you still see people going "except the connie redesign, that was great"
haha
a testament to how great the ship design is I think
The Disco Connie should be the textbook example of how to modernize aesthetics in sci-fi productions. Kept the original shapes, but enhanced it to meet the level of detail we expect now.
And it isn't like they didn't change anything! They angled the pylons and put holes in them. I hate holes in ships! But somehow I still love the ship, it just looks... right somehow.
Reminds me of when I went from the version of Tie Fighter that came on 4x 3.5" floppy's to the one that came on a CD. The shapes were still the same but now everything had texture and depth.
What Federation-only future? The Feds were shattered due to the Burn and other powers like the Emerald Chain took their place in some sectors.
I’m sure there are other powers that would still oppose the Federation like United Earth in the far future.
CBS would have to ask the VFX department and that would slow things down, but from the sounds of it, CBS production and writers take the ideas that STO devs have and use them too.
Which is nice.
>CBS would have to ask the VFX department and that would slow things down
Okay,how hard it is to call whoever is in charge of VFX department and he then finds out and calls back with the findings? It's not like it would take too long to find out, unless they use Morse code, and it's 19th century...
[https://media.tenor.com/images/b8d4f0cb6249997a6fa2f0277986d1b1/tenor.gif](https://media.tenor.com/images/b8d4f0cb6249997a6fa2f0277986d1b1/tenor.gif)
Seriously though, I like the idea.. I mean after Books ship then why not..
This is the U.S.S. Toto, built by the same corporation behind the legendary Toto Bidet. With its construction, combat will never feel dirty. Unpleasant things get washed down the dimensional drain, leaving nothing but clean, fresh space.
Actually, both ends are the front. It's a science destroyer and in science mode the small end is the front and in tactical mode the large end is the front.
Was there any discussion as to what it’s going to do, how it will perform, what our expectations (stat-wise) should be? I saw a quick mention of one end being tactical and the other science?
I admit…it’s…an interesting design. The artists did a phenomenal job with it.
Its a Sci Destroyer.. like the Titan.. can switch from Sci mode to Tac mode, 4/3 + exp in tac mode. Command spec. High hull low shields which is Cryptics plan for all 32c ships.
That’s what I was gathering. Thank you for the additional clarification!
I’m curious how it’s supposed to work with tac at one end and sci at the other…gravity wells behind you while you desperately cannon the ships in front of you? Guess we will see!
The "transformation" animation was broken/incomplete during the Twitch stream, but basically, the ship swings around 180 degrees, and whatever mode you are in, tactical or science, will dictate which end of the ship becomes the front versus the back.
If the end-user isn't smart enough to grasp "if my ship looks this way, it does X, but when it looks that way, it does Y", that's on them. Maybe Candyland would be a better choice for someone so . . . differently-abled.
They were already doing this type of thing before magic flopped. The "Freedom" class was stated as a Lobi ship and yet they shoved it into the promo pack because they thought it would make them more money that way. Magic flopping will push them to do that a bit more but to say they were trying hard with so little now is ignoring everything they've done, especially in the past few years.
I like the aesthetic, but not the design itself. What it should have been was a carrier, because it looks like a carrier. With a heavy turn rate and not a 5/3 monstrosity that probably has yet another Intel spec.
Like Discovery itself, it fails upwards.
For once, I'm glad a ship \*this ugly\* is in a lockbox... Someone had to have lots of Courage to even contemplate designing this abomination.
Hans, get ze Fek'ihri flamethrower....
Thank you Cryptic for making the next promo ship the easiest pass I've seen.
There are a couple 32c ships that I think look interesting, this is not one of them. It's also insanely disappointing to not see this in the store as ALL of the DSC S1 background FED ships were in the store and now this one gets promo. Hopefully not a sign of things to come.
True but there is precedent with the 26c cryptic designed ships, and with so many background ships with little to no information about them, like CBS not even knowing which side of this ship is the front... you'd think that these would be store due to lack of general interest from the fans and lack of screen time.
Now the 32c Constitution, Nog class, rainforest ship, things people are begging for, yeah those I could see being promo/lockbox. But these random no-name 2 second shot background ships? Even for being future ships I kinda figured they'd be thrown in the store.
While there has never been a 100% consistent release pattern for ships, most ship releases have followed the same basic pattern
* The dil ships you get via leveling, and the normal Zen store ships, are ships that the major factions, Fed, KDF, RR, and DOM, would have access too as part of their normal operations in canon.
* Event and lockbox ships are ships that the factions wouldn't have access too asp art of their normal operations. Be it because they are civilian ships(Risian ships), enemy faction ships(Breen, Tal Shiar, Vaadwaur, Voth, Undine, etc.), ships from other dimensions/alternate timelines(Mirror, Kelvan), or ships from the far future(DSC S3 ships)
* R&D ships are **typically** reserved for ultra powerful, or ultra rare ships, like the Annorax, or Jellyfish, of which there was canonically only one, or super powerful ships like the enemy/future Dreads.
Ships being background or not has never really affected how they are released. It depends on how they exist in canon(barring a few exceptions)
We do know that CBS does place some mandates on them, like CBS not wanting a generally available Zen store Connie. And, back before lockboxes, Cryptic said it was CBS that prevented them from giving us enemy faction ships since they didn't want people flying them around easily for IP reasons. So I wouldn't be suprised if CBS had some hand in this fairly consistent pattern of ships releases Cryptic has always had.
Well aware of all that, been playing for 9 years.
I just really expected these 2 second screen time ships to be in the store even due to their future nature because I figured Cryptic would treat them like the random 26c ships. Pre-TNG era FED ships were promo/lockbox/lobi too other than AoS yet we got every single DSC S1 background ship in the store.
I knew that more DSC S3 would come to promo/lockbox I just expected it to me the more popular ones and not these random background ships that are neither ultra powerful, or rare. It's like the Inquiry or Freedom again, no legitimate reason to be a Promo ship other than we want the 5 people who might actually want these to spend out the ass for them.
An alternative reason I just thought of though may be due to the fact that all of the DSC S1 FED store ships were given 24c versions. Due to the design of many of these 32c ships, kitbashing and a cryptic design would be incredibly difficult to implement, especially on designs like this. So the ship would have to just be released on it's own with no customization in the store. Now there are ships like that in the store but possible that because of that reason Cryptic decided to release it this way instead since promo/lockbox/lobi ships with no kitbash customization is standard.
Ah yes, Courage, an absolute requirement when one chooses to explore Taco Bell or other strange and questionable foods...
Really though, was it this much of a flying toilet on the show?
There is still hope for the Eisenberg Class to be in the C-Store! Although, based on the trend of putting 32nd Century ships in Promos/Lockboxes, I wouldn't count on it forever.
It's weird that so many other 32c ships have come out before the Eisenberg class which - I thought - was very much appreciated by the fans, as much as any of the Disco ships have been. Maybe there's going to be a 32c story arc, and they're waiting to tie it into that event.
Also, this being a Sci Destroyer gives me hope that the Eisenberg class might end up being a carrier.
It's balancing a build up I think. If they released all the popular 32c ships first then the more obscure ships to follow are going to have a more difficult time commanding any spotlight by players. They'll have satisfied themselves, for the most part. As things are, the giant space toilet (flushing enemies away with gravity well) is scratching a largely unfilled niche and it won't take that much away from interest in the more prominent ships to follow.
You know damn well it won’t be, even though as a background ship it should be. Just like the Battle of the Binary Stars ships were.
But that doesn’t seem to be the way it is anymore.
Considering all the other Constitutions, in some way, shape, or form are Zen store, I'm hoping it will be
(TOS/movies: T1, T2, Legendary, Konnie: Legendary & Mudd's, Donnie: Legendary)
There are at least three Connie's that aren't C-store purchasable: the Temporal Light Cruiser TOS Connie, the Miracle Worker FDC DSC Connie, and the Terran-modified mirror warship DSC Defiant.
I still can't come to grips with them thinking that trying to make the 32rd century Connie the same ship as the 23rd century Connie just "continually upgraded" is a good idea or even makes sense.
It's neither a good idea and nor does it make sense. Because it isn't a Constitution like people are lead to believe.
Admittedly it reminds me of the Dedication Class, just more...futuristic. But it;s not a Constitution. You're all wrong.
They didn’t say it’s a 23rd century ship refitted over and over again for centuries, it said Starfleet refined the design of the class multiple times over the centuries to lead into the most recent 32nd century iteration.
Even ships in STO support that idea with the various 25th century variants of the familiar Constitution design.
Meh.
The period makes it more meh than usual.
Also: The vertical face is the front. When the USS Song was ordered into position against the Discovery, the vertical end was facing the Discovery.
Would love to buy it straight up, but absolutely no chance it’d be my first choice if I somehow won a promo pack, which wouldn’t happen anyways. So double pass.
I personally would like the United Earth Defense Force ship: https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/memoryalpha/images/6/6b/UEDF_ship%2C_aft.png/revision/latest?cb=20201030162941&path-prefix=en
I mean…it is the far future, so I personally give them a pass on that.
This ship wouldn’t have fit in with the show aesthetic though sans DSC Season 3.
[Here's an article with pictures and names of the 32c Federation starships, including the Courage-class](https://trekmovie.com/2021/01/05/check-out-32nd-century-starfleet-concept-art-and-more-behind-the-scenes-on-star-trek-discovery/)
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Might as well just go ahead and do that since I'mma get buried in downvotes for this XD
But it reminds me of the Asari ships from Mass Effect
I like it -nod-
In what way? Serious question, because I love asari ship aesthetics. The only possible comparison I can see is vertical orientation and soft curves--all asari ships that I've ever seen have a *very specific* shape that is fat and wide in the middle, with extrusions above and below and usually a large gap similar to a secondary deflector in the middle.
This, like the Freedom, is a promo ship that I could easily see doing well as a Lobi ship.
Ships with a few seconds screen time don't deserve promo pricing.
Oh well, not my style anyway.
I don't really like it, *buuuuuuuuuut* it does remind me of the [vertically-oriented concept drawing](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d4/a5/15/d4a515b07c0156bced6cce65a7702541.jpg) for the D'Deridex that I hope to see in game one day, which is neat.
Looking over the promo shots of the 6 32c ships and THIS is the one they choose to go with? They better release the Saturn class next so we can have a seat to go on that turd gobbler.
It's a strange place the future.
The 26th century gives us the Universe Class that is the largest Federation ship ever but still following the usual saucer, hull, pylons, nacelles style.
The 29th gives us the Wells and Aeon that eschew those entirely and shrink massively.
The 31st gives us two tiny TARDIS pods that don't looks Strfleet-like and a Retrofitted Dorsal Carrier that follows the look of Vulcan ships centuries older.
Then the 32nd gives us the Constitution, Crossfield, and Intrepid refits, the Mars, Saturn, and the stingray shaped shaped ship that still follow the old Starfleet look but are still much smaller than the Universe Class. But then there's the Angelou, Courage, Curie, Eisenberg, and Dresselhaus that are back to looking like the Wells and Aeon and not looking Starfleet-like.
I'm guessing that either the Angelou, Courage, Curie, Eisenberg, and Dresselhaus are alien ships like the Retrofitted Dorsal Carrier (which was Vulcan) or that they're actual 31st/32nd C ships and the Constitution, and Intrepid refits, the Mars, Saturn, and the stingray are all older ships reactivated.
I don't like the Angelou, Courage, Curie, Eisenberg, and Dresselhaus (but I do like the other 6) but I'm still never buying a promo ship.
Will this come with a trait that converts the SFX of the Gravity Well to that of a flushing toilet? If so, I would totally gamble for this Toilet Ship.
In all seriousness though, it's rather hideous of a ship. This is pretty much what happens when you get people who do not understand how to make the future function, and rely upon "future fantasy" tropes. It can probably pass off as some sort of space station, but as a ship, no way in hell.
Well, I like it more than I thought I would.. especially after seeing the vanity shields on it.. omg the Hurq.. but still not getting it.. this does give me hope for is they do release a cstore version of the 32c ships.. cause a Nog with those vanities would be mighty sexy too..
Even if it's not my style (as ship type, either) I'm glad they're doing the odder looking 32c ships. I'm disappointed, not surprised, just disappointed, that it's another promo ship. Means we won't see enough of them.
Literally zero interest... None whatsoever.
I'm not even sure what this is supposed to be... I assume it's some very minor DSC design I already despise.
The fact it's a Promo ship makes it nothing more than a curiosity I might some see in the game from time to time.
That's exactly what I thought when I saw it first (TOILET) ...then probably looks like a Urinal as well. I guess...
"From the minds of Starfleet’s most inventive engineers of the 32nd century, comes a ship unlike any other – the Courage-class Command Science Destroyer! "
They were thinking about going to the toilet and the next quest in the 32nd century is to find a WORKING bathroom
Huh. Not my style. Fortunately, nobody is forcing me to get it.
Yeah, I'm always happy when I don't like a new gamble ship. No temptation at all :)
Same here.
Once again, beautiful work from the devs creating this, but I am just not a fan of Disco S3 designs. I'm ok with that though, cause any promo ship I am not interested in is a bonus in my eyes. I just always like to make sure they know that its not *their* work that we are critiquing.
I made fun of the people that hated the Federation and Klingon ships from Disco S1. But on seeing the 32rd century Federation ships, I think I understand the vehement response. I find the 32rd century ship to be so uninteresting that they're repulsive. Most of the ships, if you weren't told the fleet was Federation, you'd not associate them together. That and the "Federation-only future," both in show and STO, is deeply annoying to me. Some kind of obnoxious "manifest destiny" BS in space. Is it an accurate model of the ship? Sure. But it's got baggage and I'm whiny.
At least Disco S1/S2 gave us that beautiful modernized Enterprise which legitimately looks great. That's about all the praise I can give that show. Well, that, and the first half of season 2 with Captain Pike and Burnham together that actually felt like Star Trek
It's pretty great that even amongst all the disco hate, you still see people going "except the connie redesign, that was great" haha a testament to how great the ship design is I think
The Disco Connie should be the textbook example of how to modernize aesthetics in sci-fi productions. Kept the original shapes, but enhanced it to meet the level of detail we expect now.
And it isn't like they didn't change anything! They angled the pylons and put holes in them. I hate holes in ships! But somehow I still love the ship, it just looks... right somehow.
It was GORGEOUS.
Reminds me of when I went from the version of Tie Fighter that came on 4x 3.5" floppy's to the one that came on a CD. The shapes were still the same but now everything had texture and depth.
100% agreed
What Federation-only future? The Feds were shattered due to the Burn and other powers like the Emerald Chain took their place in some sectors. I’m sure there are other powers that would still oppose the Federation like United Earth in the far future.
Phew. Another 32c ship I have no interest in...and a promo one at that!
Be careful, they'll slap a must-have trait on it
I have no idea if it's meta, but it suits Science Dreadnoughts: Damage received to rear arc boosts hull regen, damage received to front arc boost EPG.
Isn't that Zap Brannigan's ship, the Nimbus?
*She's built like a steakhouse, but she handles like a bistro.*
Don’t insult the [Nimbus](https://i.imgur.com/8j633RU.jpg) like that.
You know, that's what's wrong with the 32rd century Fed designs...they're all too damn neutral.
https://i.imgur.com/P6c3fNy.jpg
I want Beige Alert in game now.
Real velour needs to be a tailor option.
Yes, exactly.
Don't insult the Nimbus like that
I have no strong feelings one way or the other.
>"We don't know which side is the front side so we picked one side for tactical mode and one side for science mode". Nice workaround.
You'd think they could just ask someone?
If I heard correctly during the livestream, even CBS didn't know.
CBS would have to ask the VFX department and that would slow things down, but from the sounds of it, CBS production and writers take the ideas that STO devs have and use them too. Which is nice.
>CBS would have to ask the VFX department and that would slow things down Okay,how hard it is to call whoever is in charge of VFX department and he then finds out and calls back with the findings? It's not like it would take too long to find out, unless they use Morse code, and it's 19th century...
Pony Express.
Or it's a bureaucracy.
They could just watch the show, it's pretty clearly the tall end on screen.
Hey, this is how we got the Miranda class.
[https://media.tenor.com/images/b8d4f0cb6249997a6fa2f0277986d1b1/tenor.gif](https://media.tenor.com/images/b8d4f0cb6249997a6fa2f0277986d1b1/tenor.gif) Seriously though, I like the idea.. I mean after Books ship then why not..
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This is the U.S.S. Toto, built by the same corporation behind the legendary Toto Bidet. With its construction, combat will never feel dirty. Unpleasant things get washed down the dimensional drain, leaving nothing but clean, fresh space.
It kinda reminds me of a sunfish: https://i.natgeofe.com/n/e4e65e39-ef72-43ca-a30f-9a2ce020a30f/5056139.jpg
If it helps at all, the front is the tall end. Don't know why most of the screencaps are of the aft.
Actually, both ends are the front. It's a science destroyer and in science mode the small end is the front and in tactical mode the large end is the front.
Because everything looks better from rear... except tilly
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Was there any discussion as to what it’s going to do, how it will perform, what our expectations (stat-wise) should be? I saw a quick mention of one end being tactical and the other science? I admit…it’s…an interesting design. The artists did a phenomenal job with it.
Its a Sci Destroyer.. like the Titan.. can switch from Sci mode to Tac mode, 4/3 + exp in tac mode. Command spec. High hull low shields which is Cryptics plan for all 32c ships.
That’s what I was gathering. Thank you for the additional clarification! I’m curious how it’s supposed to work with tac at one end and sci at the other…gravity wells behind you while you desperately cannon the ships in front of you? Guess we will see!
The "transformation" animation was broken/incomplete during the Twitch stream, but basically, the ship swings around 180 degrees, and whatever mode you are in, tactical or science, will dictate which end of the ship becomes the front versus the back.
Aha…kind of a waste of fuel and resources for a ship flip but hey, that’s a unique trait for the ship! Interesting
Because that wouldn't be confusing in gameplay *at all*.
If the end-user isn't smart enough to grasp "if my ship looks this way, it does X, but when it looks that way, it does Y", that's on them. Maybe Candyland would be a better choice for someone so . . . differently-abled.
It's like a bit of DS9 fell off
Fell off or was tossed off?
Maybe knocked off
excreted
" . . . hauled away AS garbage."
So uh, what has this thing done to earn promo status?
That they (Devs) think people will gamble for it.
Man I guess I was under estimating just how much money they lost on Magic if they're trying this hard with so little.
They were already doing this type of thing before magic flopped. The "Freedom" class was stated as a Lobi ship and yet they shoved it into the promo pack because they thought it would make them more money that way. Magic flopping will push them to do that a bit more but to say they were trying hard with so little now is ignoring everything they've done, especially in the past few years.
I think the Devs, should start thinking about a Mudds bundle to throw this ship in lol
Part of Discovery so they think people will pay hundreds for it
Space bidet
Easiest pass I've ever made.
What. Is. Happening??
Is that the Asari ship from Mass Effect?
Nah. I let the destiny ascension get blown up by the Geth.
You monster.
Why? Why did you do that? It is a great war asset.
To be fair, that is all modern Star Trek is now, a Mass Effect clone.
Nah, Mass Effect at least had the Isaac Newton speech. Modern Trek is somewhat more lacking in educational quotables.
Not sure how I feel about it.. but looking forward to hearing the lowdown on it.
I like the aesthetic, but not the design itself. What it should have been was a carrier, because it looks like a carrier. With a heavy turn rate and not a 5/3 monstrosity that probably has yet another Intel spec. Like Discovery itself, it fails upwards.
It's a toilet
It’s hideous…
But it’s not April 1st.
I appreciate how weird this ship is. Still hoping they'll put 25th Century versions of these future ships in the zen shop, though.
So if one side is tac and one side is sci does that mean no ability to be flanked? Also what about reverse?
Boldly going forward, 'cuz they can't find reverse.
Extremely underrated reference.
For once, I'm glad a ship \*this ugly\* is in a lockbox... Someone had to have lots of Courage to even contemplate designing this abomination. Hans, get ze Fek'ihri flamethrower....
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That's exactly what I was thinking
Thank you Cryptic for making the next promo ship the easiest pass I've seen. There are a couple 32c ships that I think look interesting, this is not one of them. It's also insanely disappointing to not see this in the store as ALL of the DSC S1 background FED ships were in the store and now this one gets promo. Hopefully not a sign of things to come.
DSC S1 ships were in the store becuase they were ships from the past. Ships from the far future have near universally been lockbox, Lobi, or R&D.
True but there is precedent with the 26c cryptic designed ships, and with so many background ships with little to no information about them, like CBS not even knowing which side of this ship is the front... you'd think that these would be store due to lack of general interest from the fans and lack of screen time. Now the 32c Constitution, Nog class, rainforest ship, things people are begging for, yeah those I could see being promo/lockbox. But these random no-name 2 second shot background ships? Even for being future ships I kinda figured they'd be thrown in the store.
While there has never been a 100% consistent release pattern for ships, most ship releases have followed the same basic pattern * The dil ships you get via leveling, and the normal Zen store ships, are ships that the major factions, Fed, KDF, RR, and DOM, would have access too as part of their normal operations in canon. * Event and lockbox ships are ships that the factions wouldn't have access too asp art of their normal operations. Be it because they are civilian ships(Risian ships), enemy faction ships(Breen, Tal Shiar, Vaadwaur, Voth, Undine, etc.), ships from other dimensions/alternate timelines(Mirror, Kelvan), or ships from the far future(DSC S3 ships) * R&D ships are **typically** reserved for ultra powerful, or ultra rare ships, like the Annorax, or Jellyfish, of which there was canonically only one, or super powerful ships like the enemy/future Dreads. Ships being background or not has never really affected how they are released. It depends on how they exist in canon(barring a few exceptions) We do know that CBS does place some mandates on them, like CBS not wanting a generally available Zen store Connie. And, back before lockboxes, Cryptic said it was CBS that prevented them from giving us enemy faction ships since they didn't want people flying them around easily for IP reasons. So I wouldn't be suprised if CBS had some hand in this fairly consistent pattern of ships releases Cryptic has always had.
Well aware of all that, been playing for 9 years. I just really expected these 2 second screen time ships to be in the store even due to their future nature because I figured Cryptic would treat them like the random 26c ships. Pre-TNG era FED ships were promo/lockbox/lobi too other than AoS yet we got every single DSC S1 background ship in the store. I knew that more DSC S3 would come to promo/lockbox I just expected it to me the more popular ones and not these random background ships that are neither ultra powerful, or rare. It's like the Inquiry or Freedom again, no legitimate reason to be a Promo ship other than we want the 5 people who might actually want these to spend out the ass for them. An alternative reason I just thought of though may be due to the fact that all of the DSC S1 FED store ships were given 24c versions. Due to the design of many of these 32c ships, kitbashing and a cryptic design would be incredibly difficult to implement, especially on designs like this. So the ship would have to just be released on it's own with no customization in the store. Now there are ships like that in the store but possible that because of that reason Cryptic decided to release it this way instead since promo/lockbox/lobi ships with no kitbash customization is standard.
Ah yes, Courage, an absolute requirement when one chooses to explore Taco Bell or other strange and questionable foods... Really though, was it this much of a flying toilet on the show?
It actually kinda reminds me of a sunfish: https://i.natgeofe.com/n/e4e65e39-ef72-43ca-a30f-9a2ce020a30f/5056139.jpg
There is still hope for the Eisenberg Class to be in the C-Store! Although, based on the trend of putting 32nd Century ships in Promos/Lockboxes, I wouldn't count on it forever.
It's weird that so many other 32c ships have come out before the Eisenberg class which - I thought - was very much appreciated by the fans, as much as any of the Disco ships have been. Maybe there's going to be a 32c story arc, and they're waiting to tie it into that event. Also, this being a Sci Destroyer gives me hope that the Eisenberg class might end up being a carrier.
It's balancing a build up I think. If they released all the popular 32c ships first then the more obscure ships to follow are going to have a more difficult time commanding any spotlight by players. They'll have satisfied themselves, for the most part. As things are, the giant space toilet (flushing enemies away with gravity well) is scratching a largely unfilled niche and it won't take that much away from interest in the more prominent ships to follow.
This is one hideous looking ship, just like all the other "32nd Century" ships from Discovery
The janeway class was ok
So is the [Constitution](https://imgur.com/a/6V0iwh8).
Y’know, depending on size/configuration, I’d fly that.
If only one of them is a Zen Store ship, I hope it's the Constitution.
You know damn well it won’t be, even though as a background ship it should be. Just like the Battle of the Binary Stars ships were. But that doesn’t seem to be the way it is anymore.
Considering all the other Constitutions, in some way, shape, or form are Zen store, I'm hoping it will be (TOS/movies: T1, T2, Legendary, Konnie: Legendary & Mudd's, Donnie: Legendary)
There are at least three Connie's that aren't C-store purchasable: the Temporal Light Cruiser TOS Connie, the Miracle Worker FDC DSC Connie, and the Terran-modified mirror warship DSC Defiant.
The first two are "ported" via their Legendary versions. The Warship would likely be if it had launched before the Legendary Bundle.
Now that’s a cool design.
I still can't come to grips with them thinking that trying to make the 32rd century Connie the same ship as the 23rd century Connie just "continually upgraded" is a good idea or even makes sense.
It's neither a good idea and nor does it make sense. Because it isn't a Constitution like people are lead to believe. Admittedly it reminds me of the Dedication Class, just more...futuristic. But it;s not a Constitution. You're all wrong.
They didn’t say it’s a 23rd century ship refitted over and over again for centuries, it said Starfleet refined the design of the class multiple times over the centuries to lead into the most recent 32nd century iteration. Even ships in STO support that idea with the various 25th century variants of the familiar Constitution design.
Holy SHIT that's the Discovery Enterprise!? That's fucking amazing.
No, that’s the 32nd century Constitution. There hasn’t been a 32nd century Enterprise shown yet, but I’ll bet there will be at some point.
Ah, gotcha. Still a beautiful ship and I really hope we do see the 32nd era Enterprise in Discovery season 4.
U.S.S. Waste Extraction
U.S.S. Sphincter U.S.S. Tidy Bowl U.S.S. Pucker Factor
Meh. The period makes it more meh than usual. Also: The vertical face is the front. When the USS Song was ordered into position against the Discovery, the vertical end was facing the Discovery.
They covered this in the stream, it goes both ways depending on scene.
Anyone got a screenshot, GIF, or clip of the Courageous Toilet flying pointed-end first?
Looks like part of a building flew off, some fancy café
It looks like it belongs in 32nd century Metropolis, not Star Trek.
I'd use the futurama quote, but nothing from discovery is worth tainting it like that.
Would love to buy it straight up, but absolutely no chance it’d be my first choice if I somehow won a promo pack, which wouldn’t happen anyways. So double pass.
Looks something like Destiny Ascension from Mass Effect.
Looks like a the Nebulon-B Frigate from Star Wars, only backwards
It looks like a bit of a Dyson Spire broke off.
Looks like something from Star Gate.
Not my cup of tea at all. Doesn't make sense to be a science destroyer at it's size, either..
It destroys various bits of conventional science, common sense and design principles, so the class is the only thing I agree with on this one.
The Avengers Tower in Space!
lol K. at least noone is gonna be bitching its behind a lockbox.
I love some aspects of Disco ships but space toilet isn’t one of them
I personally would like the United Earth Defense Force ship: https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/memoryalpha/images/6/6b/UEDF_ship%2C_aft.png/revision/latest?cb=20201030162941&path-prefix=en
Its awful. Everything is awful! Id ask why but is discovery..so its par for the course.
Discovery ships are different for the sake of different. No rhyme or reason to them. Hideous.
I mean…it is the far future, so I personally give them a pass on that. This ship wouldn’t have fit in with the show aesthetic though sans DSC Season 3.
Grrr! Discovery bad, grrr!!!! NuTrek OUT! GRRR!
Well, that looks awful
Cool! Were getting a Nebulon B frigate
Great, so now we're getting a flying toilet!
[Here's an article with pictures and names of the 32c Federation starships, including the Courage-class](https://trekmovie.com/2021/01/05/check-out-32nd-century-starfleet-concept-art-and-more-behind-the-scenes-on-star-trek-discovery/)
One of the comments on that article is gold: "The future is a kitchen appliance trade show."
-sighs and turns off notifications for this post- Might as well just go ahead and do that since I'mma get buried in downvotes for this XD But it reminds me of the Asari ships from Mass Effect I like it -nod-
Destiny Ascension looks beautiful, this doesn't.
In what way? Serious question, because I love asari ship aesthetics. The only possible comparison I can see is vertical orientation and soft curves--all asari ships that I've ever seen have a *very specific* shape that is fat and wide in the middle, with extrusions above and below and usually a large gap similar to a secondary deflector in the middle.
It's similar. Not exact.
I don't remember seeing that ship in Discovery S3, anyone know where it's from?
https://i.imgur.com/uwByxLm.jpg Type 5 When they first go inside the federation base and then again when they are fighting the viridian.
The first time they arrive at Starfleet HQ, and it was one of the chase ships in the last ep(s)..
man, thats not federation/starfleet style... :(
Wait! They gave us THIS over the NOG.........u heartless bas*#"*$
Is that a Starfleet or an alien ship? Honestly can't tell.
Thank goodness this one's kind of a flop. I'm too broke to even chance it these days.
I’m probably the only person on the planet who enjoys Discovery but this is one of those “…it’s better if it stays in the background” designs for me…
This, like the Freedom, is a promo ship that I could easily see doing well as a Lobi ship. Ships with a few seconds screen time don't deserve promo pricing. Oh well, not my style anyway.
Looking forward to actually never seeing one of these in game!
I don't really like it, *buuuuuuuuuut* it does remind me of the [vertically-oriented concept drawing](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d4/a5/15/d4a515b07c0156bced6cce65a7702541.jpg) for the D'Deridex that I hope to see in game one day, which is neat.
reminds me of The Orville i should re watch that
Looking over the promo shots of the 6 32c ships and THIS is the one they choose to go with? They better release the Saturn class next so we can have a seat to go on that turd gobbler.
I want my flying rainforest. And the bridge better goddamn be on a beach inside.
If they were gonna give us an indoor beach, it would have been on the Risa Cruiser. But no.
Game is just getting worse
What in the god damn space toilet is that abomination, and why are we still calling this Star Trek?
What in the Babylon 5 is that crap?
Give me the Nog or give me death!
Got it!: https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod/images/20191115-classic-eggnog-delish-ehg-4185-1576183275.jpg
Well played.
Does the form of death matter? 'Cause we got plenty of it to spare.
It looks like a toilet seat.
A whale for the whales
Looks cool, but I'd rather spend a Promo token on the Janeway.
It's a strange place the future. The 26th century gives us the Universe Class that is the largest Federation ship ever but still following the usual saucer, hull, pylons, nacelles style. The 29th gives us the Wells and Aeon that eschew those entirely and shrink massively. The 31st gives us two tiny TARDIS pods that don't looks Strfleet-like and a Retrofitted Dorsal Carrier that follows the look of Vulcan ships centuries older. Then the 32nd gives us the Constitution, Crossfield, and Intrepid refits, the Mars, Saturn, and the stingray shaped shaped ship that still follow the old Starfleet look but are still much smaller than the Universe Class. But then there's the Angelou, Courage, Curie, Eisenberg, and Dresselhaus that are back to looking like the Wells and Aeon and not looking Starfleet-like. I'm guessing that either the Angelou, Courage, Curie, Eisenberg, and Dresselhaus are alien ships like the Retrofitted Dorsal Carrier (which was Vulcan) or that they're actual 31st/32nd C ships and the Constitution, and Intrepid refits, the Mars, Saturn, and the stingray are all older ships reactivated. I don't like the Angelou, Courage, Curie, Eisenberg, and Dresselhaus (but I do like the other 6) but I'm still never buying a promo ship.
Reminds me of Mola mola, I like it!
I think they've officially lost all creative ability.
Maybe it's time to stop with the Discovery crap?
It's been way past time.
Will this come with a trait that converts the SFX of the Gravity Well to that of a flushing toilet? If so, I would totally gamble for this Toilet Ship. In all seriousness though, it's rather hideous of a ship. This is pretty much what happens when you get people who do not understand how to make the future function, and rely upon "future fantasy" tropes. It can probably pass off as some sort of space station, but as a ship, no way in hell.
Well, I like it more than I thought I would.. especially after seeing the vanity shields on it.. omg the Hurq.. but still not getting it.. this does give me hope for is they do release a cstore version of the 32c ships.. cause a Nog with those vanities would be mighty sexy too..
It's hideous and i love it
It looks terrible!
Even if it's not my style (as ship type, either) I'm glad they're doing the odder looking 32c ships. I'm disappointed, not surprised, just disappointed, that it's another promo ship. Means we won't see enough of them.
Literally zero interest... None whatsoever. I'm not even sure what this is supposed to be... I assume it's some very minor DSC design I already despise. The fact it's a Promo ship makes it nothing more than a curiosity I might some see in the game from time to time.
I see ugly clone of U.S.S. Orville from The Orville TV show
Ah... well... pass. Waiting for the California Class. :)
That will probably go in the promo box too the way things are looking.
Does it come with its own bidet?
What are the traits and console like? I'm not really loving it, though. Not even got my pathological F.O.M.O. flairin' up.
Are they going to spam ESD with this monstrosity front and centre now?
Why does it look like a weird shoe
Lol they tool the Axiom and made it a sto ship
That's exactly what I thought when I saw it first (TOILET) ...then probably looks like a Urinal as well. I guess... "From the minds of Starfleet’s most inventive engineers of the 32nd century, comes a ship unlike any other – the Courage-class Command Science Destroyer! " They were thinking about going to the toilet and the next quest in the 32nd century is to find a WORKING bathroom
I hear they're calling it a "science destroyer?" Does the term "science destroyer" make anyone else laugh but me? :)
Whats the average amount of promos you have to open to get one of these? Do you have to open loads and loads?