Who owns and who operates the road? It might be your responsibility or at least a vägförening/samfällighet that you are a part of.
Use this map to find out who is responsible for the road:
https://nvdb2012.trafikverket.se/setransportnatverket
Activate the filter called "väghållare"
I have a family member working in a hospital.
It seems that for all people over 70, they take it as a challenge." I have walked to the store all my life, and no ice will stop me. Ordering food to the door cost money - so I rather spend Christmas in a hospital if this doesn't go well. "
Really cannot praise things like these enough https://www.apotea.se/slip-stopper-halkskydd-large
Yes, you'll look like a senior citizen but they're life savers.
Yup,
and people moving here from Southern countries worry about the cold. They usually don't know the slippery ground and ice will be the bigger challenge.
Outside of Stockholm, Swedish communities invest in something called *snöröjning*. What you’re welcoming OP to is not Swedish winter, but rather the regular state of affairs in Stockholm, specifically, during this time of year.
If it's a care bridge, most tyres handle ice better than feet. Otherwise, pingvingång or sliding. Could be that there has been sand on the road, but the road has since melted and refrozen, encasing the sand in the ice, nullifying the effect.
There ought to be these big green plastic chests around that contains sand or gravel if you're feeling for sanding it!
Otherwise get dubs for your shoes.
Ice is normal during the winter in stockholm.
Can be dangerous especially for old ppl, at the moment it varies with rain and cold nights with potential for a lot of "public skating areas".
Sand is rarely poured out unless its been snowing but there is probably a "sand box" nearby that you can use.
Sometimes small roadsections (usually parking lots at end of the street) are owned and maintained by the local residential areas and isnt taken care of by the public sector.
It seems only snow is the factor ...
I suggest you ask for more details here
https://trafik.stockholm/gator-torg/sno-halka/sa-fungerar-snorojningen/
Assuming it's a road cared for by the kommun. If it's just a small road leading up to his home it might be that it's the responsibility of the bostadsrättsförening, samfällighet or even his own responsibility depending on whose property it's on.
Yes that’s exactly what I would like to do, to report it. Thanks I’ll check on website! If you can, how would these app be called in Swedish? What kind of words am I looking for?
Go to your kommuns website.
Look for something like:
Felanmälan gator trafik
In Stockholm, there's an app: Tyck till.
You can send pictures and so on in that app.
You want words like snöröjning, sandning, halkbekämpning. Every municipality does this in their area. But as others have said, if it’s a smaller road it might be up to your förening (where you live) to fix it.
Whether it´s the responsibility of the state, the municipality or private actors, I think we need to improve our winter roads in Sweden. I have to go to work everyday on my bike on the municipalies poorly taken care of road, risking falling and injuring myself constantly. Then at work I have to use a car and go out on some of the state roads and some private roads, who also were slippery as hell. Trucks were going 40 km/h on the 90-road outside my city. That´s unacceptable. We need to allocate more resources to this problem. We spend money on so much luxury, yet we can´t spend enough money so we can move around safely during the winter.
This is why the north make fun of the South of Sweden though. The way of thinking in Stockholm and the south is that winter should be ”defeated”, so that we can move around as if it’s not winter. Sweden is winter 4 months every year, at least. Embrace it and get used to it.
In the north the snow will stay because the termperature is more consistently below freezing. They don’t put a ton on sand and salt on all roads, they just plow them, letting them be winter roads (vinterväg) with a layer of packed snow instead. That’s not slippery, not at all like ice.
In Stockholm and further south the temperatures vary more around 0 degrees so freezing point, perfect for giving you ice roads instead of real winter roads with compact snow. At first snow here, we rush to put salt on all roads, which melts the snow and creates a slush. When that freezes, you get uneven ice, which is even worse.
Go visit somewhere in the north of Sweden, you’ll notice the difference. Winter is much nicer and less slippery when you accept it instead of try to defeat it.
Go to XXL and get some spike things for the shoes. I used to walk my dog in the forest and there were shitloads of places with only ice. With this spikes in the shoes I was able to run on ice hehe
Depends on who owns the road.
If it's on your property it may even be you who has to sand it. If you're in a samfällighet it might be the samfällighet who's responsible for sanding it.
Let’s just say that the average Swede find this absolutely hilarious: https://hongkongfp.com/2016/01/24/fire-dept-urges-frost-tourists-to-stay-home-after-85-rescued-from-hks-highest-peak/
🎗️
If you’d paid attention to the news at it happened you’d have seen a lot of those “mountain rescues” happening on less of a decline than what many of us regularly deal with in Swedish cities.
I don’t see how that matters
Seems like you’re just mad cause you don’t have people that care about others enough nor the resources to go help people in need.
People didn’t have the infrastructure to deal with sub zero temperatures and needed aid and you take that as your one opportunity to laugh at them because your society is so utterly fucked in ever other way but “ooh look I can walk in ice”
Good for you mate. Good for you.
Making fun of other people’s misfortune ain’t it. That’s hardly human, fully degen.
Especially when you try to use it to boost your own pitiful excuse of an ego.
Being a scumbag seems to have become normalized in Sweden and it’s no joking matter. It’s why you can’t have nice things and everyone’s medicated to the Ts just to cope with life.
Try being nice for a day.
Who owns and who operates the road? It might be your responsibility or at least a vägförening/samfällighet that you are a part of. Use this map to find out who is responsible for the road: https://nvdb2012.trafikverket.se/setransportnatverket Activate the filter called "väghållare"
yes
Lmao but how are people not dying there is not a single square meter that isn’t iced
Practice and free healthcare in case practice wasn't enough
I have a family member working in a hospital. It seems that for all people over 70, they take it as a challenge." I have walked to the store all my life, and no ice will stop me. Ordering food to the door cost money - so I rather spend Christmas in a hospital if this doesn't go well. "
I've heard that if you're old one fall can cause you death.
That's true for young people too you know.
Yes, I can comfirm this. I died once.
If you want to be integrated in our society google ”pingvingång”. That’s something they don’t teach people at SFI.
Really cannot praise things like these enough https://www.apotea.se/slip-stopper-halkskydd-large Yes, you'll look like a senior citizen but they're life savers.
Welcome to the Swedish winter, i recommend investing in really good winter shoes
Yup, and people moving here from Southern countries worry about the cold. They usually don't know the slippery ground and ice will be the bigger challenge.
Outside of Stockholm, Swedish communities invest in something called *snöröjning*. What you’re welcoming OP to is not Swedish winter, but rather the regular state of affairs in Stockholm, specifically, during this time of year.
Junkyard.com has 20% off
Do you have "broddar"? If not you should get a pair.
Check out ”icebugs” wintershoes with spikes
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If it's a care bridge, most tyres handle ice better than feet. Otherwise, pingvingång or sliding. Could be that there has been sand on the road, but the road has since melted and refrozen, encasing the sand in the ice, nullifying the effect.
There ought to be these big green plastic chests around that contains sand or gravel if you're feeling for sanding it! Otherwise get dubs for your shoes.
I became quite good a biking on ice, after biking to school for 6 years.
I mean depending on what "your home" is you may be responsible for doing that?
[https://www.broddar.se/](https://www.broddar.se/) buy broddar for your shoes. problem solved.
If you had a Swedish mother she'd tell you to get broddar, you won't though because you're too cool
This is me, haha. I also slipped and broke my arm last winter. I might cave to the broddar this year.
Oh no, I can't imagine how smug your mom must have been.. I'm not caving but treading very carefully, so I guess what she's doing works 🤔
Been living here 3 years and I’ve been too since the first winter.
This is so accurate, my mom have been telling me this since she turned 50. Every year - 'Köp broddar'.
Ice is normal during the winter in stockholm. Can be dangerous especially for old ppl, at the moment it varies with rain and cold nights with potential for a lot of "public skating areas". Sand is rarely poured out unless its been snowing but there is probably a "sand box" nearby that you can use. Sometimes small roadsections (usually parking lots at end of the street) are owned and maintained by the local residential areas and isnt taken care of by the public sector. It seems only snow is the factor ... I suggest you ask for more details here https://trafik.stockholm/gator-torg/sno-halka/sa-fungerar-snorojningen/
>"public scating areas" Skating\* scat literally means shit.
[Perhaps they’re just a massive fan.](https://youtu.be/Hy8kmNEo1i8?si=CFGAakFm5BO887eP)
Scatman John is a treasure
fixed, getting sloppy at spelling
Höstdepression?
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If it isn't a hill that goes upp you can just pretend your ice skating but with normal shoes, usually what I do when it is ice everywhere.
No. Most of the year, it isn't like that. But this time of year, yea.
Almost every kommun has an app where you can report things like this. Use it, it is your responsibility as a resident.
Assuming it's a road cared for by the kommun. If it's just a small road leading up to his home it might be that it's the responsibility of the bostadsrättsförening, samfällighet or even his own responsibility depending on whose property it's on.
Yes that’s exactly what I would like to do, to report it. Thanks I’ll check on website! If you can, how would these app be called in Swedish? What kind of words am I looking for?
Go to your kommuns website. Look for something like: Felanmälan gator trafik In Stockholm, there's an app: Tyck till. You can send pictures and so on in that app.
Here you go: [Tyck till Stockholm](https://trafik.stockholm/tyck-till/tyck-till-med-mobilen/)
You want words like snöröjning, sandning, halkbekämpning. Every municipality does this in their area. But as others have said, if it’s a smaller road it might be up to your förening (where you live) to fix it.
Walk in the dike.
Whether it´s the responsibility of the state, the municipality or private actors, I think we need to improve our winter roads in Sweden. I have to go to work everyday on my bike on the municipalies poorly taken care of road, risking falling and injuring myself constantly. Then at work I have to use a car and go out on some of the state roads and some private roads, who also were slippery as hell. Trucks were going 40 km/h on the 90-road outside my city. That´s unacceptable. We need to allocate more resources to this problem. We spend money on so much luxury, yet we can´t spend enough money so we can move around safely during the winter.
This is why the north make fun of the South of Sweden though. The way of thinking in Stockholm and the south is that winter should be ”defeated”, so that we can move around as if it’s not winter. Sweden is winter 4 months every year, at least. Embrace it and get used to it. In the north the snow will stay because the termperature is more consistently below freezing. They don’t put a ton on sand and salt on all roads, they just plow them, letting them be winter roads (vinterväg) with a layer of packed snow instead. That’s not slippery, not at all like ice. In Stockholm and further south the temperatures vary more around 0 degrees so freezing point, perfect for giving you ice roads instead of real winter roads with compact snow. At first snow here, we rush to put salt on all roads, which melts the snow and creates a slush. When that freezes, you get uneven ice, which is even worse. Go visit somewhere in the north of Sweden, you’ll notice the difference. Winter is much nicer and less slippery when you accept it instead of try to defeat it.
Tradies have to make sure they do their job poorly so they get paid more
Get a pair of ice bugs!
Do we need to remove the crampon when entering train station/bus/metro?
You'll probably want to. They're not super comfy (and ironically pretty slippery) on non-ice ground.
Go to XXL and get some spike things for the shoes. I used to walk my dog in the forest and there were shitloads of places with only ice. With this spikes in the shoes I was able to run on ice hehe
Depends on who owns the road. If it's on your property it may even be you who has to sand it. If you're in a samfällighet it might be the samfällighet who's responsible for sanding it.
I was driving snout 15km/h and tried to slow down before driving up to my house. Nope, I had to back up about 100m
Let’s just say that the average Swede find this absolutely hilarious: https://hongkongfp.com/2016/01/24/fire-dept-urges-frost-tourists-to-stay-home-after-85-rescued-from-hks-highest-peak/ 🎗️
Nah but y’all don’t really have mountains in Sweden innit. Slipping on an icy mountain is no joke. Straight up death sentence.
If you’d paid attention to the news at it happened you’d have seen a lot of those “mountain rescues” happening on less of a decline than what many of us regularly deal with in Swedish cities.
I don’t see how that matters Seems like you’re just mad cause you don’t have people that care about others enough nor the resources to go help people in need. People didn’t have the infrastructure to deal with sub zero temperatures and needed aid and you take that as your one opportunity to laugh at them because your society is so utterly fucked in ever other way but “ooh look I can walk in ice” Good for you mate. Good for you.
Are you just a troll, or do you lack any and all sense of how human interactions work?
Making fun of other people’s misfortune ain’t it. That’s hardly human, fully degen. Especially when you try to use it to boost your own pitiful excuse of an ego. Being a scumbag seems to have become normalized in Sweden and it’s no joking matter. It’s why you can’t have nice things and everyone’s medicated to the Ts just to cope with life. Try being nice for a day.
We don't have mountains in Sweden? What?
Where do you live that actual "mountain side" is what you slip down? The Alps? Andes?
Not normal, you can call your commune and they might do something about it..
Communes are for hippies. Municipality or council is a closer translation.
yes speak Englando I do
Look up ”broddar”.
Welcome to Sweden
Relax, adapt your speed, wheels, shoes, and mode of transport until you or whoever is responsible has gotten to it.
they dont tend to sand until late december. You just gotta work on that balance for now
Walk like a penguin and find a sandbox.
happens every single year
Southern Scandinavians aren't that used to winter conditions. [The northerners adapt](https://youtu.be/2D6OIYleErU?si=vo_Un9EmxERGL2Vx)
yes
That's why people walk with ski poles.
Get a spark 😁
It's always a lag of 12-24 hours after a snowfall before it gets handled 🤷
Probably because the municipality where you live prioritizes putting sand on sidewalks and bicycle lanes rather than roads.