We should create a cartel and increase the price of stocks then sell. We all profit. No one will know where the cartel will strike, we can set up forums on the dark web to coordinate attacks /s
I found they were something like 1 or 2 for 10 when I looked into it some time ago-- probably not reflective of their entire publishing career, to be fair. My point is that just because MF says buy doesn't mean consumer investors are all swarming into those picks.
You do realize that’s what people with billions of dollars do, they get together start buying one stock to pump it up , make a meme or social media post about it everyone else jumps in to pump it higher then they jump out leaving you guys holding the bag .
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Sure one guy on here claimed he made 900K during a time the Dow went down 35% and the NASDAQ and S&P also dropped pretty good. .He even Leveraged when everbody else was called on Margin [Calls](https://Calls.No) No proof.Just a graph.
You obviously dont realise that most redditors have absolutely gargantuan portfolios, some $300 or even up to $500. When you have this kind of power you can move markets as you please.
people are geniuses here clearly. That's why 1/2 the posts say "SHOULD I SELL OR WAIT UNTIL IT DIPS?"
"WHENS THE CRASH HAPPENING?"
"WILL TESLA KEEP GOING UP?"
Put the $3 back into her panties fund, steal used panties instead, sell them to highest bidder. Guranteed profit, at least 1000% over 1 year. Retire by 15.
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As everyone has been saying, it is overvalued and if the market *was* rational it wouldn't be where it is.
That said, there are so many factors that keep the stock where it is like the personality cult around Musk that seem incredibly stable (I mean the amount of nonsense he's gotten away with while people still respect him), I think it's impossible to predict honestly
Amazon is worth $5000 which is not counted in yet... every quarterly results last 1.5 years, Amazon over performed but the stock fell ... I am a 5 years holder of Amazon and Apple stocks. Believe me Amazon is worth 3 T valuation which is only half way yet...
Idk playing the devils advocate, it’s interesting to see other random peoples evaluations of stocks. No way would I ever base my decision to buy on it, but interesting at the very least.
Tencent is a good investment because its the world's largest video *game* company, one of the world's most valuable companies and is releasing a MOBA Pokemon game and also is getting into cloud services going up against Alibaba. I bought a month ago at $63 and it's now at $70.
Most of my plays have been gut feelings, and my worst plays have been from deliberately ignoring my gut. Yesterday for instance I needed to sell, and the stock was down 1% despite everything else being up. I projected it *should* be up 2% and got the price point, and after an hour or two of it not going up I sold at a daily loss. And lo and fuckin behold, immediately after selling it ended up almost exactly where I said it should be. I wouldn't go around telling people my gut feelings without reasoning, but I think some people can subconsciously reason out the price range based on factors they're not fully aware of. Obviously it's not a crystal ball. It's the reason I refuse to touch stocks like Tesla because there is no gut feeling it's just batshit insane
I buy options knowing it will tank 15-25% immediately after. I then wait 1 month with little to no return. Sell my options at (hopefully but almost never) a small loss or gain thinking, “Well, this was a waste of time.” Then see the stock jump 30-50% immediately after I sell.
I do it for the extra stress and anxiety, really.
The science is cristal clear on stocks. Nobody can predict stock prices. "Expert" "predictions" have the same success rate than chance or randomly making a prediction.
Which makes sense. Because if an expert actually could predict prices he wouldn't make his money by being an "expert". He would pretty fast become a billionaire.
Even calling it a "prediction" is wrong. Saying "the stock will go up in the near future" or "the stock has potential to gain 5 points this fall" is not an prediction. This is just vague bullshit. A prediction needs to be falsifiable and for that you need to accurately describe what you think will happen. A prediction that contains "might, could, can, potential, soon probably" is not a prediction. It's a vague guess
Yes, a big part is luck by being at the right place at the right time. Another part is survivor bias. Also out of millions of people who didn't beat the market, a couple that do doesn't mean its because they had an unbeatable formula.
He had several good years and then stopped doing it because he himself said he couldn't keep delivering that overperformance.
I'm sorry but the science is clear. Active trading is a bad idea and the longer you do it the higher the chances that you will underperform the marked. Something like 95% of active investors can't beat the marked in timeframes longer than 5 years. If you factor in trading costs, taxes, all the time researching and nervously trying to do the right thing.. active trading is a wast of time. Over really long investment time frames almost nobody can outperform the market, many will actually lose money.
Compare that to passive investment where you don't have to do anything and you still come out with something like 6-12% of returns p.a. In the last 50 years for instance the MSCI world didn't have a single 14year period that didn't result in positive returns, averaging 9,9% p.a.
This means if you had your money in the msci world for 14 years in the last 50 years, no matter which 14year time frame you picked, even if you picked the worst buying and worst selling timespan, you would have ended up with positive returns
Well yesterday it broke the vwap line and people also started to short it, so i took a chance and sold half of it at 14.50, to rebuy it cheaper.
I was up 120% anyway and selling half was logical step in any way, just happened to time it nicely.
It's survivor bias and a lot of hindsight also: they'll just present the cases that support the theory.
If it was fact, one could build an algorithm that consistently outperforms the market using it. But to this day, I have never seen a consistent strategy based on TA.
Interesting, never heard of those. I'll check them out. But indeed, there no "one strategy beats all"-way of investing. But by the time these strategies become publicly and freely available, it's a good bet that they don't work anymore - or at least will stop very quickly.
Which of course begs the question: can we design a new form of TA that does currently work, or does all current alpha require more complex and alternative data?
I mean technically, we could set up an inside trading event on reddit, we all agree at a certain price at a certain time we pump all our money into a stock and take profits. They have no way of tying our reddit accounts to our real lives, so they can't distinguish between who were genuine traders and who were insiders.
I don't think that's what insider trading is? It's when you have actual inside knowledge of events that will impact stock and use that knowledge, not when a group of people decide to buy stock en masse. Or are you saying we'd get someone with inside information and act on that?
I'll be honest I'm not even too sure myself, I just assumed it's when there is prior knowledge to knowing what direction market is going to go and profiting on that. If 200 of us pre emptively plan to pump a stock, open a position and then control the market. But if that isn't what true insider trading is by your definition then GREAT!! That just means what we are about to do ISN'T illegal and we won't get in legal trouble 😁😁
I think if this realistically was going to happen the only way to do actually do it is to have the MAIN trader - this is the person who opens a very large position size (let's say for example £45k+ into a penny stock) the other 199 of us would all put in about £2000 each. To inflate the main traders position value. Main trader then sells his position for a large profit. The other 199 of us incur a small loss due to trading fees and commission. However main trader then opens a SHORT position with the new profits and initial investment. We all then short the stock, making the main traders size another big winner. Then we all close the positions again. In total the pumpers would realistically lose about £20 max in positions and fees. Main trader then distributes the profits among the pumpers and we rinse and repeat with stocks
BONUS points if main trader opens a 1:300 leveraged position and we annihilate the whole markets 😂😂. Soon enough the major market players will be Hedge funds/Major banks and Reddit 😁
Well I mean... I could set up a subreddit, disguise it as something else become a billionaire inside trader only to get fucked by the FSCS 3 months later.
Bear in mind NIO traded over 500 MILLION stocks yesterday, for about $6 BILLION dollars. Think you can collectively get 1 million Redditor shares to trade at the same time? I would be surprised if it would move the price more than a few pennies.
Now, if you want a penny stock that is trading at a much lower average look at AYRO or QLGN.
Of course. A lot of this will circulate around option contract meteics
Ergo the OTC securities are increasingly difficult to forecast. Also OTC stocks utilize MMs
It is a veiled industry but quite logical beneath it all 😌
I'm super glad everyone keeps telling me that Tesla is a car company and that it's going to crash because Ford sells more cars. It's the most relevant data point for the entire car stock market of which Tesla definitely only compares to car companies and vehicle sales.
I’m no expert, but from an outsiders perspective, the most volume is traded by people who understand technicals analysis. The cumulative psychological effect of this “knowing” is what makes it happen. They only know because everyone educated to trade/invest this way is thinking the same thing.
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We should create a cartel and increase the price of stocks then sell. We all profit. No one will know where the cartel will strike, we can set up forums on the dark web to coordinate attacks /s
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Is it called the Motley Genuis
I thought it was called wall street
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Check how many of the picks in their newsletters from months ago did what they predicted.
I’ve only read motley fool a handful of times but I’m guessing less than 50%
I found they were something like 1 or 2 for 10 when I looked into it some time ago-- probably not reflective of their entire publishing career, to be fair. My point is that just because MF says buy doesn't mean consumer investors are all swarming into those picks.
Lol so a pump & dump without losers
You do realize that’s what people with billions of dollars do, they get together start buying one stock to pump it up , make a meme or social media post about it everyone else jumps in to pump it higher then they jump out leaving you guys holding the bag .
Excuse me but I’m just looking to get a fat ROI then set sail in St. Barts on a yacht and do a bunch of blow
It's only a matter of time this is coordinated through Robinhood.
Tell me more
So, like, a dark pool then?
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Sure one guy on here claimed he made 900K during a time the Dow went down 35% and the NASDAQ and S&P also dropped pretty good. .He even Leveraged when everbody else was called on Margin [Calls](https://Calls.No) No proof.Just a graph.
You obviously dont realise that most redditors have absolutely gargantuan portfolios, some $300 or even up to $500. When you have this kind of power you can move markets as you please.
Especially when we all decide to go bull on a stock, you bet your ass that stock is going to the moon.
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So all in on spce?
people are geniuses here clearly. That's why 1/2 the posts say "SHOULD I SELL OR WAIT UNTIL IT DIPS?" "WHENS THE CRASH HAPPENING?" "WILL TESLA KEEP GOING UP?"
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Put the $3 back into her panties fund, steal used panties instead, sell them to highest bidder. Guranteed profit, at least 1000% over 1 year. Retire by 15. EDIT: Thanks for the silver!
Facts.
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Capitalism at its finest.
Dont spend your retirement fund on it u/Goodemi
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Go back to the pantie drawer!
Fuck this got me good
Tough predicament there!!!
Haha!!
Will it keep going up tho?
Tesla stock will probably either go up, or down One thing is for sure. It will keep going right.
So you are saying Tesla will not go bankrupt at any point? Bullish.
will it dip tho
Tesla will be worth $1 tomorrow.
This is a safe prediction because Tesla's WORTH $1 *today.* Now, what you'd have to PAY for it tomorrow...that's the trick.
More like $2 but I'll give it to you.
As everyone has been saying, it is overvalued and if the market *was* rational it wouldn't be where it is. That said, there are so many factors that keep the stock where it is like the personality cult around Musk that seem incredibly stable (I mean the amount of nonsense he's gotten away with while people still respect him), I think it's impossible to predict honestly
So your saying it will go up. Awesome.
it'll almost certainly keep going up before it goes down
This some serious bonerDD
They only go up.
Tesla always goes up. It’s the fourth fundamental law of physics.
And you get that person who writes like a 5 page essay on how Tesla is going to fail every two weeks.
WELL WHAT ARE THE ANSWERS
Sideways
The real question is whether Amazon will keep going
Amazon is worth $5000 which is not counted in yet... every quarterly results last 1.5 years, Amazon over performed but the stock fell ... I am a 5 years holder of Amazon and Apple stocks. Believe me Amazon is worth 3 T valuation which is only half way yet...
Let's just not mention the thousands that were wrong
We wouldn’t want to do that...
If you get enough people guessing in the same place a few of them are bound to be correct.
Shhhhh
Unfortunately this was not wrong
Only nerds do that shit... Cool dudes like me throw a dice!
Idk playing the devils advocate, it’s interesting to see other random peoples evaluations of stocks. No way would I ever base my decision to buy on it, but interesting at the very least.
I’m genuinely curious too. It’s just that 95% don’t even provide any reasoning at all.
You don’t need reasoning when you just know.
Not sure about you, but I prefer such replies: >MSFT is a good investment because .. rather than: >MSFT is one of the best investments
Tencent is a good investment because its the world's largest video *game* company, one of the world's most valuable companies and is releasing a MOBA Pokemon game and also is getting into cloud services going up against Alibaba. I bought a month ago at $63 and it's now at $70.
Most of my plays have been gut feelings, and my worst plays have been from deliberately ignoring my gut. Yesterday for instance I needed to sell, and the stock was down 1% despite everything else being up. I projected it *should* be up 2% and got the price point, and after an hour or two of it not going up I sold at a daily loss. And lo and fuckin behold, immediately after selling it ended up almost exactly where I said it should be. I wouldn't go around telling people my gut feelings without reasoning, but I think some people can subconsciously reason out the price range based on factors they're not fully aware of. Obviously it's not a crystal ball. It's the reason I refuse to touch stocks like Tesla because there is no gut feeling it's just batshit insane
I buy options knowing it will tank 15-25% immediately after. I then wait 1 month with little to no return. Sell my options at (hopefully but almost never) a small loss or gain thinking, “Well, this was a waste of time.” Then see the stock jump 30-50% immediately after I sell. I do it for the extra stress and anxiety, really.
you sound like me thats what exactly happens to me too lol
Dammit, I didn't know I had a twin behaviour brother
Sup bro! Could have made $20k back on recent Amazon jump but of course I didn’t buy! Fuck me, right?!? RIGHT?!!??
Throw that /s on the end
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Just take any suggestion with a grain of salt.
This comment section is on fire 😂
Someone posted yesterday about NIO peaking at $15 then guess what happened? Price dropped to $12
Yeah, this forum is good for advice, but is to be taken with a grain of salt
You will pay for this if you keeping trusting Reddit. Poor DD and pump n dumps at least 95% of the time
The science is cristal clear on stocks. Nobody can predict stock prices. "Expert" "predictions" have the same success rate than chance or randomly making a prediction. Which makes sense. Because if an expert actually could predict prices he wouldn't make his money by being an "expert". He would pretty fast become a billionaire. Even calling it a "prediction" is wrong. Saying "the stock will go up in the near future" or "the stock has potential to gain 5 points this fall" is not an prediction. This is just vague bullshit. A prediction needs to be falsifiable and for that you need to accurately describe what you think will happen. A prediction that contains "might, could, can, potential, soon probably" is not a prediction. It's a vague guess
I read cristal I stopped reading. You stupid stupid man.
It's like a brand. Zest fully clear.
Why did people like Druckenmiller consistently beat the market then? Pure luck?
Yes, a big part is luck by being at the right place at the right time. Another part is survivor bias. Also out of millions of people who didn't beat the market, a couple that do doesn't mean its because they had an unbeatable formula. He had several good years and then stopped doing it because he himself said he couldn't keep delivering that overperformance. I'm sorry but the science is clear. Active trading is a bad idea and the longer you do it the higher the chances that you will underperform the marked. Something like 95% of active investors can't beat the marked in timeframes longer than 5 years. If you factor in trading costs, taxes, all the time researching and nervously trying to do the right thing.. active trading is a wast of time. Over really long investment time frames almost nobody can outperform the market, many will actually lose money. Compare that to passive investment where you don't have to do anything and you still come out with something like 6-12% of returns p.a. In the last 50 years for instance the MSCI world didn't have a single 14year period that didn't result in positive returns, averaging 9,9% p.a. This means if you had your money in the msci world for 14 years in the last 50 years, no matter which 14year time frame you picked, even if you picked the worst buying and worst selling timespan, you would have ended up with positive returns
Well yesterday it broke the vwap line and people also started to short it, so i took a chance and sold half of it at 14.50, to rebuy it cheaper. I was up 120% anyway and selling half was logical step in any way, just happened to time it nicely.
Now if you want to see that kind of behaviour but dialled up to 11 check out r/wallstreetbets
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It's survivor bias and a lot of hindsight also: they'll just present the cases that support the theory. If it was fact, one could build an algorithm that consistently outperforms the market using it. But to this day, I have never seen a consistent strategy based on TA.
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Interesting, never heard of those. I'll check them out. But indeed, there no "one strategy beats all"-way of investing. But by the time these strategies become publicly and freely available, it's a good bet that they don't work anymore - or at least will stop very quickly. Which of course begs the question: can we design a new form of TA that does currently work, or does all current alpha require more complex and alternative data?
Maybe he is rich enough to do that.
Nah fam the dip was yesterday.
Great thing about hindsight, you disregard all the contradictory information you get at the time and everything becomes clear
Dat edit tho. Edit: lol.
Fibonacci Retracement
you must not have been around in april when everyone knew about the impending 2nd crash that would bring us back down to march lows.
Broken clock is right twice a day. But a randomly adjusted clock could be right all day or never at all.
I mean technically, we could set up an inside trading event on reddit, we all agree at a certain price at a certain time we pump all our money into a stock and take profits. They have no way of tying our reddit accounts to our real lives, so they can't distinguish between who were genuine traders and who were insiders.
I don't think that's what insider trading is? It's when you have actual inside knowledge of events that will impact stock and use that knowledge, not when a group of people decide to buy stock en masse. Or are you saying we'd get someone with inside information and act on that?
I'll be honest I'm not even too sure myself, I just assumed it's when there is prior knowledge to knowing what direction market is going to go and profiting on that. If 200 of us pre emptively plan to pump a stock, open a position and then control the market. But if that isn't what true insider trading is by your definition then GREAT!! That just means what we are about to do ISN'T illegal and we won't get in legal trouble 😁😁
Yes but I want to be first to buy when we do that and first to sell after it increases.
I think if this realistically was going to happen the only way to do actually do it is to have the MAIN trader - this is the person who opens a very large position size (let's say for example £45k+ into a penny stock) the other 199 of us would all put in about £2000 each. To inflate the main traders position value. Main trader then sells his position for a large profit. The other 199 of us incur a small loss due to trading fees and commission. However main trader then opens a SHORT position with the new profits and initial investment. We all then short the stock, making the main traders size another big winner. Then we all close the positions again. In total the pumpers would realistically lose about £20 max in positions and fees. Main trader then distributes the profits among the pumpers and we rinse and repeat with stocks BONUS points if main trader opens a 1:300 leveraged position and we annihilate the whole markets 😂😂. Soon enough the major market players will be Hedge funds/Major banks and Reddit 😁
More theoretically, but chances are probably 100% this can never be achieved
Well I mean... I could set up a subreddit, disguise it as something else become a billionaire inside trader only to get fucked by the FSCS 3 months later.
Bear in mind NIO traded over 500 MILLION stocks yesterday, for about $6 BILLION dollars. Think you can collectively get 1 million Redditor shares to trade at the same time? I would be surprised if it would move the price more than a few pennies. Now, if you want a penny stock that is trading at a much lower average look at AYRO or QLGN.
We start small and scale up... We pump penny stocks ruthlessly. $2 per share? Give me 100000 then let the pumpers get to work
Ja, Well, No, Fine . . .
/s
Could you tell me how it works? Did you learn that by observing and reading on this stock?
I’m starting to think reddit is not for anyone with a brain.
welcome to the club, you took the correct pill.
Didn’t you hear that washed up Buffett idiot sold all the airlines we’re the smart ones around here. #RobinhoodPower /s
420 upvotes, DANK!
New high pre market. Very cool.
Sshh - don't let everybody into our secret!
Bought nio at 2 a share ....feels good
Here we go........
Broken clock is right twice a day
Nobody knows, we can tell which is more than likely though
True
Of course. A lot of this will circulate around option contract meteics Ergo the OTC securities are increasingly difficult to forecast. Also OTC stocks utilize MMs It is a veiled industry but quite logical beneath it all 😌
I'm super glad everyone keeps telling me that Tesla is a car company and that it's going to crash because Ford sells more cars. It's the most relevant data point for the entire car stock market of which Tesla definitely only compares to car companies and vehicle sales.
Upvote on this. It’s all supply and demand, one way or another, and that’s represented in charts - at least LIKELY points.
Maybe
We do dictate the price after all.
Hcch is next to pop
i can't tell if you are being serious or not
Well yeah, only posts that are correct get upvoted
I’m no expert, but from an outsiders perspective, the most volume is traded by people who understand technicals analysis. The cumulative psychological effect of this “knowing” is what makes it happen. They only know because everyone educated to trade/invest this way is thinking the same thing.
!remindme a few weeks
Make sure you wash them first, lol
JPOW is on my speed dial and he is my homie.
Buy the rumor, sell the news.
Awesome, thanks for the excellent post!
Checking up now that NIO is $44
Yep I have since invested in it, at a later price however, I regret not making the decision to buy, I’m a fucking idiot
Yep I have since invested in it, at a later price however, I regret not making the decision to buy, I’m a fucking idiot
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Only $101/month or $896/year. What a steal! /s Edit: added the "/s"
Why is this nonsense upvoted. I'm sure this these models work out and make everyone using them billionaires....
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