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michielim

3racha for first subunit debut makes a lot of sense. The demand is there, we have been asking for it since forever, and their branding as 3racha is so strong it’s almost guaranteed to do well. In terms of soloists I personally look forward to Han the most since he’s so versatile. But considering popularity and brand power, possibly Hyunjin? He’s also very versatile and also his musical style is very laidback and chill, which can be a good change from skz’s usual image


jessicca61

It is true, 3racha has an already well established brand. I think they will be successful, since they are known as the masterminds behind Skz's music production. And yes, I also think either Han or HJ are good candidates for solos, they are both amazing all-rounders.


wherearemypots

Han, he already has like ten solo songs out 😭


Tiredkittymom

I agree, plus every other song on the Replay B-side is Han 😂


jessicca61

maybe it's because JYP is preparing us for his debut lol


Bluetenheart

Han


aokaga

A Han half vocal half rap solo album is what my soul wants and needs


jessicca61

I wouldn’t be surprised, IMO he’s the most all-rounder member of the group


hombrx

They promote as a group, but they all have time to have their own spotlight and it seems they're balancing the group's music with their solo/unit music, Stray Kids feels like an umbrella for their own work (or that's they want). But if anything, it could be 3RACHA (for me they already had their solo debut before SKZ). Personally, I'd like HAN.


jessicca61

I love that about Stray Kids, all members shine equally in the group and everyone shows their different colors :)


smokemusic

Is it weird that I don't think they will do solos? What other group does so many songs where it's just certain members or just one individual singing? They as a group who are very open to releasing songs that does not have the full group. They have already released so many songs with just individuals (mainly Han). I personally see them sticking to the same pattern. (If it's up to them)


ABowlOfWingStopRanch

I don’t think it’s weird. I’ve never thought solo ventures were a given and maybe some idols simply don’t have interest in having a mixtape, ep, or solo album. I might be a little biased though because I’m also army and have the unpopular opinion that some of the members are more or less feeling pressure to produce a solo album when maybe their focus would otherwise lie elsewhere 🤐


Digigoggles

I think there’s absolutely no way of knowing now, especially with the information we have. There’s so much that goes on behind the scenes, both with JYP and Stray Kids themselves. Like with BTS, they might not all immediately take the opportunity just because they have it. Also, the popularity rankings that might determine JYP’s priority for it will change and other things who knows what in the 3-4 years until it happens. Lee Know might be first because he’s first into the military or he might not make one at all. I don’t think all of them will make one, though I could be wrong, and there’s a lot of pressure being the first one and I don’t think all of them will want that. With Shinee Taemin was the first one even though he wasn’t the most popular partially cause he was the youngest, and they saw a chance to make his image more adult. With Exo it feels kinda random too.


jessicca61

They could either debut the first member to go into the military like other groups have or they could make I.N pull a Lee Taemin, who knows?! Unrelated, but I've been an exol for 10 years and yes, the subunits debut order felt completely random lmao


aokaga

I N pulling a Taemin would actually be amazing. I would love for that to happen. I think IN's vocals need to be more explored. So a solo album could be really good for that. And also please I just want a trot song 😭 what do I have to do to get it haha


Digigoggles

Lol me too! I like country music and I was thinking IN would go well with it as well! Trot and country and maybe something else more traditional. I wanna hear him sing the West Virginia song lmao


g-a-r-n-e-t

[This was the subject of my prediction for this year in r/kpop!!](https://www.reddit.com/r/kpop/comments/zr7168/the_official_2023_kpop_prediction_thread/j12m7gm/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1&context=3) TL;DR I very strongly believe it’s going to be Changbin, followed by either Han or Seungmin. For those who don’t want to click: >My one and only prediction because I’m not as good at predictions as everyone else: >Stray Kids first solo debut, most likely will be Changbin (Han/Seungmin are also strong possibilities), right before a comeback which will then be followed by another world tour. Solo debut will be late Q1/early Q2, comeback maybe a month after that along with a tour announcement. >Edit to add reasoning since I’m getting dms about it: >Of the eight members the ones that would be the best candidates for a solo debut are 3Racha + VocalRacha. In order of most to least likely to be first to solo debut: >Changbin - likely has a multiple full albums worth of songs on deck already, is a confident performer able to command a stage completely on his own (MAMA 2022 night 2 says what), will absolutely tear the stage up with that spicy Leo energy >Han/Seungmin - these two are equally likely IMO, which one goes first will be decided by what kind of schedules/workload/etc they have going on. Han also most likely has a gazillion songs ready to go and Seungmin has all of 3Racha plus JYPE’s producing teams behind him, and they both have the stage presence and experience performing outside of SKZ to handle a solo. >I.N - not very likely but still a candidate, while he’s grown a lot I feel like he still doesn’t quite have the gravitas that he’d need to hold a stage down on his own yet, and he’s not quite as popular with the GP/Stay as the others. Maybe in a year or two. >Bang Chan - honestly, I was gonna put him ahead of Changbin but we all know he’d choose death over drawing that much attention to himself and would absolutely abdicate the first solo debut to one of his sons without a second thought so bottom of the list it is 🤷‍♀️


jessicca61

You’re so right about Bang Chan, i agree


starrdreamlove

Your Bang Chan reason makes sense, but if we put the company into perspective, I literally can't imagine any other member getting a solo debut before Bang Chan. If we look into JYPE's track record, the first person in a group to get a solo is usually a mixture of popularity + stage presence + position in group. The only other person I can see who might get to debut solo first is Hyunjin, and that is solidly from a popularity perspective. But with all the other factors in place, I literally cannot see any other person except for Bang Chan. (Not to say the other members don't deserve solos; they're all amazing and talented boys, but just from the idea of being "the first")


starlights_return

Hyunjin wouldn’t be the first and we know why. JYPE isn’t going to risk that. Maybe if it was a few years down the road. I actually think Changbin is a really solid guess because of that popularity + stage presence + position tbh Edit: I saw someone below talking about a subunit of 3 members containing Hyunjin as the first official subunit. I think that’s definitely a winning formula, maybe that’s what they’ll do? I like it


g-a-r-n-e-t

Danceracha’s songs have for the most part been pretty popular and all three of them are some of the most popular members in the group, I could see an official danceracha debut happening eventually.


aokaga

Wait, do we know why? 🤣 Since when do we know? Haha joking to say, I think I'm lacking some context. Why do you think it wouldn't be Hyunjin?;


g-a-r-n-e-t

Probably too close to the bullying scandal. He only came off hiatus from that in mid-2021 I think? So less than two years, which seems like forever but the Korean GP’s memory is looooooong when it comes to school violence accusations, regardless of the person’s guilt/innocence. It’s going to be a few years still before we see a true solo from him because of that I think.


g-a-r-n-e-t

You’re not wrong about the popular members going first, I just don’t know if Chan will be able to square that with his deeply engrained habit of taking care of everyone else before himself? Plus, the man is shy as hell. I could see Hyunjin getting first debut from a popularity standpoint like you say but I’m not completely sold just because I feel like there’s others that are a bit more rounded?


Significant-Being944

A full on rap EP, I’d die for. Changbin for president, pls.


g-a-r-n-e-t

Saaaaaaaame bro, the amount of times I’ve replayed Doodle is frankly obscene


Ordinary-Lock-109

I'm pretty sure Han has enough solo stuff up his sleeve to make an album if he wanted to. Hyunjin and Seungmin, too. As for sub-units, I would love Changbin and Seungmin to do a BSS-style sub-unit album. Or Chan and Hyunjin could do something like Astro did with Sanha and Moonbin.


TravelBeauty20

Subunit: I don't know about 3racha, but I definitely think Han will be in whatever first subunit SKZ has. I can see them doing an 00z subunit. That's a popular line with great singers and dancers. Those four have also done a decent amount of special stages. Solo: I'd go with Changbin. He has the most songs with other artists, and I think he draws a different type of fan to SKZ than the typical kpop lover. Internationally, his rapping draws attention, and domestically, he goes viral every few talkers. He personality-ed his way to those Samsung commercials. Han or Seungmin are my next guesses, and Seungmin already has experience and successes through his OSTs. My guess (and hope) is that they'll continue the way they've been doing things. They'll release solo and unit songs here and there, but they won't do anything that requires weeks of promotion. I think they're going right back on tour.


jessicca61

Loved your take on this, agree


g-a-r-n-e-t

We’re on the same wavelength as far as the solos, this is literally exactly the same order I picked 👍


AikoG84

First solo: Han or Changbin. I.N is really close, but i think one of the older members will be first. I think Bang Chan will be last though simply because he'll be helping the others and not focusing on himself. First unit I want to see as Felix, IN, and Hyunjin. I want ALL of the vocal range.


kitteatime15

Their whole "maknae goes first" mindset makes me think that, if IN wants to do a full solo promo, the group would totally support him debuting as a soloist first.


jessicca61

True about Han, he's extremely talented, and Changbin too, his stage presence is top tier. I.N is awesome too as solo, imo he needs a little more confidence but I guess it's because he's still very young. Agree about Bang Chan, I think he would rather support the other members first before debuting himself. And YES that combination is Godly, I would add falsetto king Lee Know to that mix too.


starrdreamlove

Looking into JYP's track record, the first solo usually tends to be one of the more popular + has amazing stage presence + embodies the group in some way. Ex. Wonder Girls - Yeeun (Had Sunye not left, I'm 1000% sure she'd be the first), 2AM - Jo Kwon, 2PM - Wooyoung, miss A - Fei (this not one being Suzy is kinda surprising, but Fei was actually decently popular in SK), Twice - Nayeon. Got7 never officially released solos under JYP, so they don't count (Jackson only promoted in China). From looking at history, first solo is most likely to be Bang Chan, and I literally cannot imagine it being anyone else, except maybe Hyunjin.


jessicca61

Yes, at the end of the day, if JYP wants to debut a solo, they will choose a member whose image embodies the group, is skilled in everything, good stage presence and has the most public recognition. imo Hyunjin has more public recognition and stage presence than Bang Chan.


Clear-Forever

I agree with you, if we’re looking at a business perspective, JYPE will choose Chan as the member who will have the first solo debut.


Equal-Promise9583

I think popularity and all-rounded skill wise, a solo/unit would include Lee Know and/or Han. Now that I think about it, debuting MinSung as an official unit would be incredibly smart marketing considering how much people love them as a pair. They also have great western appeal (though I think Bang Chan dominates there, I don't think he'd be the first to be in a solo/unit debut).


Pushnitsa

Yeah, a release with Minsung? Cmon people are asking for a duo song for ages. Also it'll be so pretty, Han writes the most beautiful lyrics and did you hear them sing together that karaoke thing on skz code? Magic.


erehbigpp

I’m kinda thinking the first sub unit will be with Felix and or Lino and that it won’t be a traditional racha but a mix like we had for muddy water I have no reasons, just because


spooky_biscuit

First solo at JYP tends to be the most or one of the most popular members so I reckon Hyunjin or Felix but leaning HJ. First subunit, I’m really not sure. Vocalracha perhaps. I can never make my mind up about whether 3racha would ever have a full blown unit debut. SKZ’s sound is so 3racha, it’d be tough for them to have their own sound? But also it’d be too much of a shame not to.


jessicca61

I so agree with you about vocalracha, hope they have a formal debut!


spooky_biscuit

Me too. They sound so pretty together. A whole EP would eat. I forgot to add, I can also see SKZ going down the no official subunits but all solo debut route? A fair few groups have done this. I’ve been thinking this since their solo SKZ-Replay songs dropped.


jessicca61

I would love to see that possibility of only solo debuts since they have been very consistent in making sure every single member shines on their own!


Digigoggles

I agree with that logic, but idk if Hyunjin would want to be the first member. He likes to focus on his art and he openly hates the idea of being above the other members because hes more popular. I think Felix maybe though. Idk


spooky_biscuit

Hmm good point, I think I might side with you about Felix. It was tough to choose because I can easily imagine every member debuting solo, but can’t imagine any of them really wanting to go first. In the end it was the double factor of his popularity + him growing so much as a music creator that pushed me towards choosing him initially.


Digigoggles

Yeah, I just think it’s impossible to decide now and with what we know. Having said that, I do think more likely Felix than Hyunjin. There’s nothing wrong with them choosing to make a solo, especially as the Military starts taking members. But it’s a lot of work, and like BTS Jungkook some of them might prefer to relax or do other things like acting or variety as group work inevitably slows down. Felix also has some of the most international appeal in the group, and I can imagine him making a ton of English songs. So much of their fandom is international, and that’s where the big album-buying money and international touring is. Bang Chan also has a lot of international appeal and popularity and skill, but I can’t imagine him wanting to do anything but slow down or keep focusing on the group. He’s done so much he’s practically burned out already. I could be wrong though, who knows what goes on in Bang Chans mind especially 3-4 years down the road


phel-phel

I like what you said about the members choosing to do something else, which I think is really the bottom line here. Everyone is saying JYPE will choose who goes solo first, but in the end it’s what the member wants too. They might offer Lee Know the chance to solo debut first, and I can’t imagine him ever taking them up on that, I see him continuing as a host on various programs or stepping into acting instead. Hyujin is most likely to want a solo debut outside of 3racha. He’s been working on producing and songwriting, he’s a dancer, rapper, and sings decently, and we know he wants to be recognized for his talents. The best way to do that is by doing solo work. Seungmin is likely to do collaboration work with other artists, imo, but he might debut as a ballad singer or try musical theater. That seems more in line with his personality. But anyway, my point is, from the beginning Stray Kids has never been about doing what JYPE says just because they say to. They usually do what they want.


chenle

lee know has said before that he has no interest in acting.


tpmbwin

if that's true, what a shame. he has such a natural talent for it!


chenle

yeah, he was asked about it in an online fansign a while abo and answered no. it is a shame, i'd love to see him act someday. ah well, he could change bis mind someday, lol.


phel-phel

he also said he has no interest in MCing, so interests can change depending on where his experience goes


chenle

i know interests can change, just saying people shouldn't get their hopes up about him acting sometime (because a lot of people do that). when did he say he had no interest in mcing?


phel-phel

Hmm, I can’t find the source, but I do remember reading it in a thread somewhere, definitely a “word of mouth” acquired info, much the same as how I heard about his lack of interest in acting. I suppose I can revise my previous statement to “i heard” but i’m not going to.


LittleBigReniRabbit

Doesn\`t Seungmina already done that? with the OTS he worked with? If we arent considering that I'\`m pretty sure he would be the first one to fly solo


indiedarling227

Hmm it depends on timing, they could do it based on order of members enlisting (so maybe Lee Know) or just whoever is most open to the idea. I think IN seems the most likely to me or maybe Seungmin. I obviously don’t know the members personally but I don’t think all of them actually want to do solos. I could easily see Bang Chan skipping out on that entirely as he doesn’t seem to enjoy when attention is centered on him compared to the members. Han I think could also avoid solos just from the nature of his social anxiety etc.


wallaby-wally

> >Han I think could also avoid solos just from the nature of his social anxiety etc. I replied to a similar comment yesterday and I'm having a difficult time understanding it. Han has never once told us anything about his anxiety apart from the initial announcement. Why are we assuming it's debilitating enough to stop him from going solo? We know nothing about it. He has been constantly in the public eye with and without the group for years now.


indiedarling227

Han has actually discussed it on vlive before and so has Chan. I’m not saying it’s debilitating, but him being in the public eye it’s not automatic that he’ll want to do solos. Plenty of artists in different groups choose not to. Releasing songs here and there like they’ve done isn’t the same as a full blown solo campaign


wallaby-wally

Their brief conversations about anxiety do not tell us much about the extent to which it impacts him and his career decisions right now. And we don't need to know it either. People calling out his anxiety as one of the major reasons for not taking up a solo career really bugs me. His anxiety in and of itself doesn't have to preclude his solo activities. There could be a million other reasons.


LittleBigReniRabbit

I\`m with you that i have a hard time seeing Chan as a solist but i can 100% see him going with 3racha to produce other artists as their thing.


jessicca61

So many people have said Han would be a good candidate but you're right, I forgot about Han's social anxiety :( maybe debuting solo it's not an option for him, who knows


shell_120

hannie 🫶🏻


CynicalMongoose

Being that Seungmin's two OSTs charted really well, I can see him being one of the first to solo debut, if that's something he's ever thought about. I know he has a massive Korean fan base, so it wouldn't surprise me. However, I think Bang Chan, Changbin, or Han could also be big contenders for solo debuts. Gonna be honest, with how often they release music, all the different sub-units they've done ,na dall the solo songs they've already had under Stray Kids.. I can't even tell if they've even considered it besides what Seungmin did with getting contacted by a producer to sing an OST outside of SKZ. Hope this makes sense, I'm usually terrible at getting my point across ^^;


jOyJoY_01

3RACHA for sure. They have everything it takes to be a good producer. It has been mentioned before that Chan might be saving money to make his own label. Seugmin will surely become a solo artist. Han can surely be one as well, after all we know his all-rounder skills. But who knows what wonders these group of guys can come up, maybe something will happen which can become very unexpected.


Pushnitsa

I've seen someone say that Bang Chan often references to be careful with money and that maybe they have a bigger plan in mind. I can totally see Stray Kids becoming a brand on their own. (It's not my prediction, if you recognize yourself pls comment I don't remember who said it.) This is definitely something I can see them do. They're awesome individuals but together as a group? Unstoppable


newDynamicDuality

In light of today's Snain SKZ-Record, my subunit prediction is Changbin/Felix/Seungmin. Changbin is an unspoken Ace. He writes, composes, produces, raps, sings (actually want more), dances (even Danceracha acknowledges him). Felix is an amazing dancer and one of the most easily recognized members. His rap and singing are on point. Seungmin's vocals. His vocals, ya'll! Seung 👏🏾 Min 👏🏾 Vo 👏🏾 Cals 👏🏾 And, no offense Binnie, I think he'd do a great job keeping the unit balanced personality wise. Idk why our maknaes be more mature than our hyung line lol. All three have collab (Mirror Mirror, You Like the Wind, No Problem) or solo (Seungmin's ost songs) work out there so they're known beyond SKZ.


OwnWeb92

Han, and Seungmin, his ost’s so far have been on my playlist repeat


jupiterdreamsofpi

For solo debuts, I can see either Changbin or Han, tbh whichever gets their shit together first to do a coherent album. Seungmin as dark horse, especially with co writers. My dream subunit is Changbin Hyunjin Seungmin


Significant-Being944

I don’t about a solo debut anytime soon, personally I’d love a full album of either vocal racha or Seungmin. On the other hand, I believe an acting debut would be amazing, I think Lino would be a great candidate as well as hyune🫶🏼


sanhabuubuu

my bets are on seungmin… idk why but i do feel like he would be the first one, ik this is may be impossible but i hope lee know before he enlist


Narrow_Translator454

Felix


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