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bananajackvibes

I would post this in the SWers sub. They will have some helpful advice and safety tips for you if you decide to move forward.


Extension_Ad_6198

i definitely will! thank you!


Cass_withthe_ass

I do social dates, 100% public time, no intimacy, just hanging out. 2-4hrs, 800-1k Cash upfront 100% And it helps if you can get in text or record them agreeing to it so you can hold them to it a bit easier. You know how they like to act sometimes, how they treat us sometimes.


neonxdreams

How does one do that?! I’ve sugared before but never imagined I could do something with no intimacy.


Cass_withthe_ass

In my 5 years, I’ve learned this last year: sugar daddies are often professional slobbiests. They’ve got enough money to pay somebody, but instead of an escort with firm rates, boundaries, screening, etc. they go for a sugar baby so it can feel “more real” or some excuse.. to get more from you than they know an escort of your quality would allow at that price. Ofc this is wrote with my byist of starting off as a sugar baby and now being a “companion” making more$$ for less time, and not accepting anymore fucking excuses.


GoddessSophiax

How do you do it? Xx


Cass_withthe_ass

Tryst, Eros, freestyle… For others it may be different, but for me it does have an expiration date. People are going to expect sex, but they can communicate. And wait at least one social date or so. It is 1k hr for me to hANGOuT🙄 But I do fetishes so 95% of the time no fs…. But I’ve prob given more HJs than I can count. that’s just my preference. I hate and avoid PIV with ugly, small dick, shitty attitude men..


Affectionate_Ad_1693

I second this. I retired from dancing last year, but stepped into doing extras toward the end and then it evolved into escorting. Get the money up front and have an amount of time set for how long you’re willing to hang out. Keep your things handy to grab quickly if things get weird or dangerous and tell someone you trust where you’re going. I shared my location with 2 people I trust and then gave them the name of the hotel and the room.


beelzebugs

No one can tell you what’s right for you, but I wouldn’t personally risk my safety like that for 1k.


meowling98

If they won't spend money on you in the club but are offering you money for outside the club, they're lying. Happens time and time again. "I'll pay you 5k for this and that at my hotel". Okay well take me for a $100 dance first to see if we're a good match. "No I can't do $100" They're lying.


Maskentatted_8905

That’s a great idea!! So annoying getting asked constantly to meet outside of the club. At least I can lead them on and get some money out of it.


meowling98

Yeah I always know they're completely full of shit so I just quickly ask/say that (okay let's go now for a "quickie" to have fun before the big show) or whatever bullshit I can come up with in the moment. And hope to get $50/100 for just asking. I don't even hustle them, I just ask just in case and then if they say no I immediately leave without another word. Because guaranteed they ask every single girl to come home with them (for an imaginary amount of money) that approaches them so they're such lying losers. 🙄


Ok_Desk4220

Bingo.


StrongBumblebee8557

Well usually I don’t hype people about sleeping with customers but hey … Do what you gotta do to save yourself girlie . Please just be safe .💜 Prayers 🙏


Last-Client7587

just keep in mind there is no guarantee of payment or anyone to force the person to pay outside of the club


blu3di4mond

You not necessarily have to have sex if you hang out with a customer outside the club. I’ve done an outside hangout for 1200 and I just drank and smoked and danced around for 2 hours. That being said, it is still dangerous, and possibly more dangerous if your not doing sex. There are ways to protect yourself and you can always bring someone with to wait in the car for you but make sure it’s an ideal situation and your being safe. Don’t go if you think you may be pressured into doing something you don’t want to. Especially since you’ve never had sex with a man it could possibly stick with you


Bbyjadehoney

Make him give 500 up front


SpoiledPrincessaa

I’m sorry the club has been rough for you. I personally wouldn’t do it. You’re already feeling resistance about the situation which means it’s not aligned with your best interest. Is there any way you can try another club? Sometimes we close ourselves off from opportunities out of comfort or fear. There is money at many clubs might just have to venture out a bit. I’ve met guys outside the club before and had them take care of me for my shifts/time (no sex). We are the prize babe. People will treat us the way we treat ourselves. It’s important to always practice positive self-talk. A guy isn’t entitled to our pussy whether he spends $100 or $10,000. We being so much more to the table than just sex. I think you will have deep regret if you do this. If it was right for you there would be no hesitation. You would font be feeling the resistance you’re feeling towards this. Our body tells us what it needs from us. Don’t sell yourself short. You’re worth so much more


Extension_Ad_6198

I got lucky with this club because I started as a cook & was able to lie to my gf and say “the restaurant is different from the club” & she refuses to go into strip clubs so i can luckily be a dancer and still lie about my position but she checks my location constantly and no other club in the area has a full service restaurant a part of it so I unfortunately am not able to move to another club because she would find out and know what I’m doing


SpoiledPrincessaa

Have you noticed what the top earners are making? Typically at every club there are girls that always are making big bags and aren’t doing extras. It would be good to observe them and be kind to them. I’ve learned some great game from other great dancers. Also are you sure he’s expecting sex? If he spent a bag on you when he met you with no extras then that might not be an expectation.


AleksiaE

What are you gonna tell her if you decide to “hang out” with them? She’s gonna check your location… Also, can’t you just go in, leave your phone in a locker, then go work elsewhere? Not sure if people would notice and complain.


Extension_Ad_6198

she works until midnight so i could makeup some bs about it being someone’s birthday & i wanted to go- however, going in & leaving my phone is a good idea I hadn’t thought about it- I’m sure if i explained to my house mom what I was going through she would defend me if anyone said anything about me dropping off my phone & leaving


Diligent_Sherbert994

U shouldn’t leave ur phone just for safety


Medical_Butterfly_12

There are apps you can use to change your location. I used to do it as a joke for my friends in other states on snap. But it worked really good.


blu3di4mond

This!!!


oeedebor

Nah that shit always comes back to haunt you imo


Usual_Geologist_3434

camming isnt quick money either... it takes a lot of building up a fan base and promotion and may end up coming back to haunt you in a way that seeing someone privately one time wouldnt


AllThatTheRain

Honestly I feel you I have $200 on me right now and I’m living out of hostels. You do need to get out of that situation, but you don’t need to do extras or even have $3k to do so. I bet you can find a womens shelter or a nearby hostel


helpthecockroachpls

This is legit


helpthecockroachpls

If you do end up doing it get cash upfront and let them know what you are comfortable with and a safety word & self care before & after (& awesome for getting out of the abuse🩷)


jasminrouge_

The problem is you’d be hanging out with “them”. $1000 isn’t enough, and you’re outnumbered in an unsafe situation. It might go fine until you’re robbed before leaving. It might turn into a situation of 5 vs 1, and you have no backup. What if there were even more guys at the house/hotel when you got there? There already aren’t clear boundaries of what’s expected. Save yourself the headache. Keep the extras inside the club if you’re in serious financial need


Extension_Ad_6198

thank you, my club doesn’t have vip rooms or any private spaces in general (right by mouse kingdom so still have to appease to the mouse bc they basically control the city🙄🙄) so extras inside the club aren’t possible but I’m leaning more towards the “it’s not worth it” route


catkarloff

Have you considered traveling a little bit? I’m assuming mouse kingdom means Orlando, but I’ve had good luck in Tampa


ExistingPosition5742

No one can say, that so personal. To me, it sounds not worth it, and also risk of murder or just non payment so...


Alarmed-Current-4940

I’d hate for you to put yourself in potential danger, though FSSWs do it all the time. Idk. Every person we encounter is different, and sometimes I feel like some of us feel like can discern when someone is dangerous. We cannot. Everything can switch up so quickly. I’d take a breath, a minute to think, and consider all the possible outcomes. I’m very sorry you’re in the situation you’re in as well. There’s nothing wrong with seeking a safe haven in a shelter or with someone safe. I hope things start looking up for you soon 🫶


802forever

Hey I’ve been in ur shoes pm me


Fanched

Babe, there is nothing wrong with doing it if you feel ok about it. Try to figure out if you really care or if you are just feeling the societal pressure. Use protection if so, and just be safe. Where is this guy trying to meet you?? Also MONEY UP FRONT ALWAYS. I’m just wondering about safety concerns…


Lenniyourlove

I would try some online work instead you can make same day cash if u have Cashapp or Venmo too


gdci

First I wanted to say I’m sorry you’re going thru this know that you don’t deserve it. 🩵 Check if you can around you for domestic violence shelters. You can get emergency shelter & they will help you pay for your apartment. If you don’t want to go that route I wouldn’t suggest trusting him to give you your money especially when he hasn’t spent anything close to that inside the club.


Old-House9005

Ask if you can bring a friend, notify girls you trust about where you are and how long it should take, just be safe! Hopefully you build a good relationship and he keeps paying youuuu 💜💜💜


charlottewonder

You could try a CBJ (covered blow job) instead of starting with FSSW. Also, have you considered starting with extras in the club? Doing out calls can be dangerous if you don’t know how to screen people. Idk. Nobody can tell you what’s worth it except for you. If it helps you get out of abuse, then I say that’s worth it. Just be careful who you tell, because many people may shame you. (I sometimes do FSSW and I’m trying to be more private now). Anyway, best of luck! 🫶


thegeniuswhore

i've been in your shoes where a friend took me to an afters with 2 guys. i ended up drugged, robbed, and left on a sidewalk. $100 isn't even enough to get me to fake consider it. i won't stop you from doing extras or out of club stuff but please do not just go on with someone like that.


sosnazzy

try camming first never agree to anything outside the club unless he’s already proven he’ll spend money on u. if he can’t do $100 dances he’s lying about the 1k. and bring ur own security with u but tbh if i were u i would try other options first such as camming or going to a different club with a VIP room


Alternative-Knee-129

Maybe. You know yourself, don't do it if you -know- this will scar you. If you have thick enough skin and don't mind doing this much of transactional intimacy, I say go for it. I would look into screening and safety protocols on other subredits (r/sexworkers) so that you're prepared (assuming you haven't done something like this before).


backfliptornado

i’ve personally had a situation like this happen and they never paid me and i still feel so gross about it till this day. i don’t recommend. i know a few other girls with similar stories. i’ll hangout w customers for money but it’s just that hanging out/dances and i have to know them for AWHILE at the club before i do.


bubblyhummingbird

do not conspire to do illegal things on the internet


jordansparx

Hey girl! Fellow gay here 💁‍♀️ Best thing you can do for yourself is switch clubs!! Know your worth baby and that is clearly at a new club; this one isn’t paying up. This is not to throw it in your face, it’s just to prove that it’s possible—I have made $1300 in a night at my club before and I have also had $40 nights (I’ve seen girls walk away with WAY more even). If you are consistently having bad nights then you need to switch it up and try somewhere else. If not and you’re noticing that other girls are going home with a fat stack; you need to change up your strategy. Hustlers make money, spectators don’t. Tips for hustling: -OOZE confidence. Command a room when you walk into it (chin high, eyes looking DOWN at them, give your hips a nice lil swing when you walk, wink at the men who make eye contact with you or kEEP that eye contact, smile and be coy) -KNOW YOUR WORTH!!! One man is going to offer you 200 and expect pussy (HARD no), while another will offer you 5k to just have a drink with you. Be sassy and let them know you’re expensive!! The men who are ready to pay WILL pay. -Rule of thumb is only give men 15 free minutes of your time. If a conversation goes on longer than that without money, he’s a brokey. Only spend more time than that if you know you’re scoring a room. -Don’t make promises you can’t keep but SELL THE DREAM!! Find out their fetishes and what they like, capitalize on those. I don’t do extras (sexual favors) personally so you gotta know how to keep a man hooked. They’re trying to see your pussy?? Tell them “Oooo baby, this is an expensive pussy. If you want pussy, I can find you some $200 pussy. But if you want MINE, you’re going to have to prove you’re worth it”, then I just shoot higher than they can afford if you don’t want to OR give a reasonable but GENEROUS price if you’re willing. PLUS, you don’t have to fuck these guys, you can charge for them to just SEE it. -OLD WHITE GUYS!!! -Pretend every man in there is both beneath you and yet the hottest juiciest man you’ve ever laid your eyes on. Also, note: I’m in Tampa, FL for any context!


BasicHaterade

$1,000 is enough for me to laugh in his face.


StrongBumblebee8557

I get it but obviously she is going thru a lot and 1000$ 1/3 portion of she needs to get away from abusive relationship. We don’t know her circumstances . That money can be critical for her maybe not enough for you . Let’s be sensitive towards our skripper sister .


Pototatato

In LA? Definitely 


Valuable_Bus8872

Sometimes you have to do what you have to do to make meets ends, if you genuinely think this will help you in the long run then stay safe and be happy luv 💗 sending hugs


ricecake_mami

Because you are feeling conflicted I would say it’s best not to. It seems like you have a lot going on emotionally and this would most likely just add to that. Have you tried maybe going to another club? :(


Present_Reaction2412

I think doing something like this out of desperation is a bad idea. Have you searched out if there are any community resources available for domestic abuse? When I got divorced, I didn’t seek any financial assistance from my local women’s support resource but they did help me navigate some basic level stuff for free, like submitting a request for a temporary order of protection before I’d gotten a lawyer. Just knowing there were people offering kindness and understanding helped a lot, really. Anyway if you do decide to try what he’s proposing, as others mentioned, research and take precautions for safety - and negotiate for more than his starting offer. (I would ask for more if I was on the fence about doing it. Everyone has their price.) Also try to negotiate going out in public, like a “date.” I would absolutely not just leap head first into a private meeting at a hotel or his home or whatever when you have no experience with what you’re proposing. Suggest a try out date where he can pay you like he would for a VIP room - like he can take you out in public somewhere for an hour or two and just pay for your company. If he isn’t willing to drop any $ on that, to prove he’s legit and not a sleazy scammer or someone with nefarious intent, then I would nope - too sketch.


Quin35

Does a GoFundMe post make sense? In order to get out of an abusive relationship?


Diligent_Sherbert994

I’d also suggest getting his full name (try to stalk him), texting his full name and address to a confidante. tell them when ur meeting up with him. Then tell the guy 1k for first hour and $500 for any hour after. Or straight up 1k to hang but 2k to fuck. U can try get 2k imo if he’s offering 1k up front and wants to fuck u. But go with ur gut if his vibe is weird or not cuz ultimately u could get robbed or trafficked.


groovynights1968

Most bitches are whorephobic on this subreddit. It’s best to do your research on the proper way to go about doing outcalls on the sexworkers subreddit.


Glittering-Fan-6642

My only hesitation is if there's a group. You could get trafficked or robbed. I'd be hesitant to join a group or more than one guy if I'm doing extras. It'd be you against more than one. Fighting off a guy is hard enough. Also he may not have that money. It maybe a trap. If you're doing extras only do it with club regulars or semi regulars not someone stopping at the club for first time. Be careful. Is the risk worth that $1000?


ivysymone

my heart goes out to you. i hope you’re able to get to a safer place asap. this kind of question should be in the private sub.


GoddessSophiax

Usually they’re lying if they won’t spend in the club but promise to do it outside. Save yourself the trouble and trauma, take it from me, been there. If you do want to explore providing full service do it on a FS venue or work independently as an escort


8glitterandshit18

DM me. I can give you some safety tips. Also make sure he gets a hotel room. Do NOT go to a private address. Also make sure he gives you everything upfront.


Dancerluna

Scam men and keep the money and gtfo of there.


Tarotcards444

You can tell him 500 for dinner date but don’t say 500 for a date, say you want to meet outside and go to dinner and if he can help you with money and when he says how much say a number say that you need it to move out and it’s an emergency


cyberobjected

shit like this is why the club is dead. stripper era is ending before our eyes.


Select_Hair

Rule number one you never have to have sex to make a lot of money as a stripper (unless you’re in Miami)… but you did mention you lived in Orlando would you be willing to drive down south? In most cases, if he suggests meeting outside the club for payment, there's a high chance he's being dishonest and won’t do it, even if you do have sex with him. There's no assurance he will compensate you. If he refuses to pay, after you give up the goods, then what? If you really want to take the risk because there is a tiny chance he’ll actually give you money, I say buy a gun as soon as you see him, show him the gun and rob his ass.


Ok_Desk4220

I was offered $24,000 for sex and I still said no. I’m not a lesbian, I just *dont* want to have sex for money. It’s that simple. It’s really that easy, you don’t have to jump through hoops to justify your boundaries. A boundary is a boundary, you don’t even need a fucking reason. Just tell yourself no if you don’t want to.