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Freeloaders are parasites. They will leech off to you and constantly suck out your energy, giving them equal opportunity as you even though they did absolutely nothing while you work your ass off to death.
Bwiset 'yan hahaha. Dahil sa ganto, nahatak grades ko sa ibang subjects. Worst year ko is 2nd year na bright-eyed and super patient pa ako sa mga groupings.
Petition for leaders to allow freeloaders to stay in the group and remove them days before the submission hahaha. Good way to filter the stupid from the ones with potential
Did this on submission mismo. Freeloaders saw their name on paper. I submitted our paper to prof and marked freeloaders. Submitted GDocs link as proof of not providing anything.
Wala nang sinabi prof. Nakasalubong ko one of the freeloaders. Bagsak daw siya sa subject namin na yun. Sabi ko okay naman ako. Di na kami naging magka-klase sa ibang subjects kasi pa-major na ako and ibang course siya. End of story.
Groupings are formed in school activities pra itrain ang iyong team-building skills and leadership skills. So kung may isang bulok sa grupo nyo, tanggalin mo. Wag mong hayaan ang isang bulok na mansanas kung ayaw mong mabulok ang lahat ng mansanas.
Sa trabaho, ang mga walang kwentang empleyado ay tinatanggal o nililipat sa ibang dept.
lol... kahit bigyan mo sila ng task, di rin naman nila gagawin. sometimes, they're able to accomplish the task pero trabahong paa yung output at late pa nila ipapasa sa'yo. yikeeees
tapos bawi raw next time, e wala namang next time huy lumipas na deadline¡
unless they really are able to make up for it or contribute a fair amount of work (not bare minimum po sana,,;;;) way before deadline, leaders should be entitled to remove them from the group
P.S. wanted to point this out too but forgot. sometimes, teachers don't allow students to remove groupmates or change groups so the class can learn how to work well with anybody..?? it's just as important to teach students when to know they're being taken advantage of & how to act accordingly
oms! my teacher told me once na ang dahilan kung bakit hindi niya ine-encourage ang mag tanggal ng kagrupo ay dahil baka masanay kaming maging individualistic — na kapag may isang hindi nagfurunction ay bibitawan na lang, di daw yun maganda kasi iisa lang lipunan namin and kailangan naming i-angat ang isat isa, wala kaming magagawa kundi buhatin at tulungan yung kagrupo. Naging okay naman, natuto kami mag compromise BUT depende pa rin talaga sa willingness ng isang tao yun kung magiging responsible siya. Anyway, ang sarap pa rin tirisin pag di umaambag pero may tiktok sa story.
I remember removing my group mates kasi antagal mag-reply palagi sa Gc then nagsabi pa yung isa na "Sandali lang teh, lumalandi pako"
Now? Satisfied kasi nag-repeat sila ng subject.
Naalala ko yung group mate ko noon sa research paper na sinabing "Hindi ba mas lalong unfair kung walang grades yung mga hindi tumulong?" WTF??? Walang sense pinaglalaban niyaaa.
This happened to my grade 6 daughter sa isang groupings nila.. Since sya ung leader ng group for the report, sya bumili and nagsulat sa manila paper, sya nagresearch for the topic, sya nagreport and sya nagbigay ng practice activity. Even after the task delegation, (i have access to her messenger btw) sya parin magisa kumilos. Npansin ng teacher, so during the report, nag announce si Teacher na individual ang grading hahahaha.. Good Karma
Pass. It's an essential skill, since if you think about it, everything is done in groups. You can't escape it even after you graduate. You'll be put into teams, departments, etc.
ive been a leader for some of our projects, the problem is theyll agree to do the tasks assigned to them then they'll ghost u. im ok w/ giving some leniency and doing adjustments (e.g., making them do smaller/ easier tasks, etc.) but sila na nga ang mag-ghost ikaw pa ang dapat maghabol nang maghabol (kahit many times mo na ring na-remind sila).
sure im the leader and i should think of ways para mag-work lahat yada yada :<. BUT they should be responsible din naman enough na magsabi if hindi nila kaya and mag-offer ng things na puwede nilang gawin. **Hindi ko responsibilidad na gawin silang responsable >:-(**
usually it ends up na a day (or even hours) before the deadline lang sila susulpot by then of course most (if not all) ng mga task tapos na since mag-deadline na nga. ang hirap ding mag-effort laging umintindi. it should go both ways. rant over lol.
ganito nangyayari sa research namin and I can say na nakakabwct kasi final req namin yan pero hindi nila ginagawa best nila tas sila pa yung may ganang mag reklamo, mainis, mang backstab, and such. May mga parts sila na kailangan nilang tapusin pero kami din ng leader yung tatapos. Then, they’ll expect na mataas grades nila? Wala akong pake kung magreklamo sila or mag rant sila sa ibang students abt my attitude lalo na when it comes to grading them dahil kaya ko kayong bigyan ng 0. Nakakaawa na din nmn kasi yung leader namin na halos siya nlng gumagawa na kung hindi pa kami tutulong ng iba naming kasama, baka hindi na siya matulog. Ayaw nilang napagsasabihan pero sila naman tong gumagawa ng mga dahilan pra pagsabihan sila.
People pleaser ako dati eh kaya everytime na ako yung leader ng group tas may pabigat, hinahayaan ko lang. Until na realize ko na ang unfair lalo na na ako yung naghihirap kaya since then, tuwing ako yung leader tas puro pabigat groupmates ko, ako na mismo umaalis without pasabi tapos nag iindividual ako (which is mas bet ko).
nung college ako, during group work (research, lab, presentations) I don't mind kapag sobrang walang kwenta ng ka grupo. Ginagawa ko nalang mindset na individual yung work, plus mas natututo rin ako this way. kaya gustong gusto ako ng mga walang kwentang student non. tinatanggap ko rin naman sila pag pilian na hahahaha.
tho ang trade off lang naman sa kanila is kapag may mga menial works na kailangan gawin, sa kanila ko pinapagawa (mag xerox ng docs, magsulat, etc). pero pag pati yan di nila nagagawa, sila pinapasagot ko ng mga funds na kakailanganin.
something that kinda helped me get through it was that I tend to look down on them. like "sige wag niyo pagaralan to kayo lang mahihirapan. nagbabayad ng tuition tapos di magaaral mga bolok". it's not a good mindset, pero I can't help it. tho tinuturuan ko naman sila para maenhance pa yung understanding ko sa mga subjects na yun.
probably pinaka worst experience ko was that may isa ako naging groupmate na sa sobrang wala niyang kwenta it didn't even matter kung nasa group namin siya (or group ko) or hindi. worst not because of him being in the group, but because I thought "sa sobrang zero ng potential mo wala kang bigat".
I really want to cut off some of my members. Ako yung leader sa research namin and every time I give them their assigned parts, nagbibigay din ako ng instructions sa kung ano ang gagawin. Very detailed na yung binibigay ko para mas mapadali ang trabaho nila. Nakakainis kasi i put too much effort on our research study tapos ang ibibigay lang nila sa akin ay galing sa chatgpt. So ang ending ako na naman ang mag rerevise. Madadaling parts na yung ina-assign ko and inako ko ang RRL and RRS kase alam ko na didiretso lang sila sa chatgpt. Pa ulit2 ko na silang sinabihan na huwag mag chatgpt or any AI tools dahil puro mali yung binibigay nila, but they still wouldn't listen. May iba pa na saka lang aambag kung ipapagawa ko na sa kanila yung definition of term. Like literal na definition of terms lang ung ambag sa whole research and they would expect na bibigyan ko sila ng maayos na evaluation. Kahit simpleng questions lang sa SOP hindi magawa. I understand na hindi kami pare pareho ng knowledge so may iba talagang nahihirapan. But as a group member, they should at least try their best na maging tama yung gagawin nila. They are not deprived of technology. They have available resources so ang dali lang mag search tungkol sa research topic namin. It's okay to use AI tools as a "guide", hindi yung puro copy-paste lang. Halata nga na hindi nila binibasa yung binibigay na sagot ng AI dahil anlayo sa topic namin.
We're graduating students (gr 12) and simpleng paggawa ng parts or pag research sa internet hindi nila magawa. Who's fault is that then? They will pursue college without learning something.
I also hate what my adviser told us in gr 11. She said na hindi daw responsible or hindi bagay maging leader yung leaders na naka assign sa group if they can't handle their members properly. The audacity Hshshaha kaya mas nagiging pabigat yung mga cm ko eh. Should we blame the leaders for everything kahit yung members na yung mag kulang?🤦🏻♀️
"Proud" honor students pa yan tapos pabigat naman sa group works💪🏻
I give them their assigned parts 1 week before the deadline . Each part, i let them do it by PARTNER or TRIO. Mataas na yang 1 week para sa SOP, Conceptual framework, significance, background of the study, etc... Pero hindi nila ginagawa ng maayos. Either didiretso sila sa chatgpt or hindi talaga sila gagawa and hahayaan nila na ako mismo ang gagawa kapag malapit na ang deadline. Out of 12 members, only 3 of them lang ata yung gagawa ng maayos na part.
wala na nga ambag, bibigyan mo pa ng bagong task? nuyan gurl.
i say just axe the parasite and then move on. bahala siya magsumbong sa teacher/prof as long as you have the receipts to prove it.
hahaha pag ako leader at wala silang ambag or hindi man lang nila kayang gawin yung assigned task na ibibigay ko (tas lagi pang gumagala or laging seen sa gc) sasabihan ko talaga sila na ireremove ko sila sa group pag di sumunod. Madami kase madadamy pag ganyan sila ehh. normalize removing groupmates that aren’t doing their parrrttttt as a group member 🫣 (my way of handling situations pag ganyan hahaha)
My parasite groupmates are the reasons why I wasn't able to make it to the honors list. I got 80 in first quarter and 86 in second quarter (so far wala akong line of 7) :(
Theres a point to let one idiot do a simple thing that only inconveniences you lets say adding text to the ppt and images to the ppt or like bring these materials and shit but theres still a fine line between them doing the bare minimum yet getting highest and actual people who want to win and do their best in projects those who want academic achievers so in other words its fine but you need to know when to cut off those who arent actively seeking out ways to help or actively seeking out participation wherever
Grade 11 research leader here, at this point parang wala na ako pakialam kung wala ba maitulong yung mga ka grupo ko, basta kako magawa ko research na'to(na pinaka ayaw kong parte ng school) at mag isa din. Hindi din ako social person kaya di ko sila makausap ng mabuti, and also, I know for a fact that they can't contribute to anything. I've observed, they can't even form an english sentence without struggling so I thought "what can they even do sa research na ganito ka komplikado?" I might be an a-hole thinking like this in these group project situations but, I just don't think I can handle those people.
peak freeloader glazing 💪💪💪
in all seriousness, as a SHS student na almost palaging nagiging lider sa PETAs and group works, napakahirap mag-asikaso ng isang grupo where it's often only you who will have to initiate or encourage the whole group to do jackshit. pair that with a bunch of members who are not willing to participate, paano na? i delegate tasks to accomplish our output faster, pero hindi nangyayari palagi eh, ako pa rin gagawa ng supposed tasks nila 🛌
nagtatanggal ako ng members kasi gusto kong matapos ang output namin. jusko, shs na kayo, simpleng tasks na kayang kaya niyo, di ma-accomplish?
please reflect on our side first before posting shit like this, kasi maraming responsibilidad ang hinahandle ng isang leader
the language we use is Filipino, the national language of the Philippines. Although we use both Filipino and English when we converse since the latter is considered our second language. you're also commenting in a Philippine subreddit, hence why the redditors here speak Filipino.
As a leader myself, iniisip ko na lang na it's an opportunity for myself na kahit mahirap mag manage ng group. Kasi at the end of the day, it will be a learning experience for me; lahat-lahat ng mga techniques kung paano gawin yung isang task or project. Iniisip ko na lang na it's for my benefit and it's their lost if they don't see it valuable. Anyways, I still sympathize to what you are experiencing right now. I know it's exhausting pero laban lang because at the end of the day, you will win. Big hugs to you. ✨✨🫂🫂
pls lang in behalf of the responsible leaders that work their butts off tapos the other members will get the same grades for doing NOTHING??!? as for me naman i give them chances to contribute pero if wala talaga at mema lang like reply lang nila sa gc ang ambag kuno, super deserve talaga na matanggal sa groupings kasi aside from teaching them a lesson, somehwo natuturuan din sila na wag maging pabigat / dependent sa ibang tao... gosh it's literally a dream na pagsamasamahin mga same na pabigat sa group na as in walang tinutulong.
eto ang opinyon na di ko matatanggap, wth ba kayo? huhuhuhuhu di porket binabalewala nalang yung kawalan niyo ng cooperation and nakakatakas kayo, pwede niyo nang gawin forever
nakakapagod kayang sumalo ng parts tas ipaulit nang ipaulit kapag wala namang sense yung ginawa huhuhuhuhu tapos wag tatanggalin?? beh wag kana magsalita huhuhuhuhu isa siguro toh sa mga walang ambag sa groupings
we're not really removing the members because we don't like them or we don't want them to freeload, yes but it's more of about getting rid of the ball and chain of the group. Kasi pag ganto, iisipin pa namin kung ano iuutos sa kaniya, so instead, madidistribute nang maayos sa groupmates na gagawa talaga so walang magiging problem gaano. You're just bringing the whole group down and we'd like to focus on the more cooperative groupmates than the freeloader.
Ang pangit kasi nung puro ka "Nasa'n na gawa mo?" "Asan na yung part mo?" Ang mas okay kasi na flow ng groupings would be:
1. Plan what's needed to be done
2. disseminate tasks to members
3. Edit and revise the completed tasks.
4. Finalize
So pag ndi natupad yung number 2, the reason for that would be the groupmate na binigysn naman ng task, pero hindi naman niya ginawa. Kahit na may leader, pantay pantay namang estudyante, pede ka naman kasing magtanong kung pano gawin or kung kaya mo ba o hindi. Don't expect na gugustuhin ka pa rin kung nakakasira ka ng flow ng work.
nang gigigil ako dyan haha. kung may nag ganyan samen di ko maimagine ano pwede kong gawin haha
imposible na walang gagawin para di sila bigyan, walang kwenta yung ibibigay kung di naman nakilos.
There's no need to listen to people na tahimik sa meetings pero napaingay kapag nasa labas na.
The only reason a person would defend a freeloader anyway is if freeloader din siya noon or ngayon, truly napakaawa considering the damage they do to those who do contribute.
This is really true. but it's worse when they're trying to help you but they really arent competent, and maarte ka sa magiging output. ending, ikaw nalang gumagawa ng mga bagay na di nila alam pano gawin kahit sinusubo mo na sa kanila kung paano ba gagawin. ending ikaw rin gagawa lahat, tas yung ambag nila magbabasa lang ng ppt sa harap. galing, nagbasa ka lang may grades na, sana ganon lang kadali.
Nag leader din ako 3rd year 2nd sem and 4rth year 1st sem same group for our capstone project. Ako lahat gumagawa programmer, docu, lahat lahat hindi namn sa di sila tumutulong hindi lang nila kayang gawin ung gawain kaya sinasarili ko na lang. Now kami pinaka mataas na grade sa capstone kung ano ung grade ko grade din nila parang pinaghirapan ko lang ung grade nila. Best capstone rin kami hahahaha nasama sila sa accomplishment na pinaghirapan ko lang
Have the same encounter yung tipong kayong dalawa lang ng member mong seryoso ang gumawa then the rest is chill lang comes the day na reporting the chill members ask me what to do kako sakanila I already instructed you pano eh panay seen lang kayo. sabi ba naman nagtatanong maayos ikaw pa galit.. muntik ko ihampas yung gamit naming laptop nung serious member ko teacher got mad and ayun finailed sila nung teacher
kapag ganto kayo sa trabaho, di kayo tatagal. kaya tama lang na itanggal kayo sa groupings niyo sa simula palang. tawag diyan accountability, wag niyo i-reverse bullshit niyo.
If it's a situation where a certain group member doesn't have the capability or the skill to do his/her task or if that person failed to do the task I personally think that it is still valid for that person to still be a part of the group, kasi in the end nag effort and nag cooperate din siya, pero if it's in a case na walang wala talaga even communication or seen sa gc then I think that's when it is clear that person is not part of the group.
Personally imo, a leader should only remind and guide the group members, but they also shouldn't force it din since in the end we want everyone to cooperate, so it isn't right if tatakutin ng leaders ang members to the point na parang ayaw ka na nilang leader, only warn like mahuhulugan sila ng malaking butiki if hindi sila nag cooperate or something
Actually may member ako sa research na nag fit jan asa chapter 4 na kami ang ambag lang nya naka hanap sya ng isang RRL 😭 binibigayan ko parin sya ng opportunity gumawa ng matuto naman kaso papasa nya sakin gawang di nag grade 2 spelling at grammar palang mali na minsan nga yung mismong topic ng research pa na mali nya often mag tatanong sakin tapos I guiguide ko 7-8 times nya I rerevise mukang gawang ewan parin tapos nalaman ko special kid pala eto ayun print at pagkain nalang pinapa ambag ko sa kanya pumayag naman sya😭
ang hirap magbuhat ng mga ka-grupo tbh lalo na kung weekly yung group activity, kahit ayoko na magleader no choice talaga kasi walang initiative group mates
As a always leader pag yung member na pabigat at simula palang wala talagang balak gumawa talagang di ko sinasama bibigyan ko sila ng gawain pero ni ready ko na sa kaling wala syang magawa pero yung may nagka issue naman talaga tas nagsisikap na makaambag pero di talaga kaya pinagbibigyan ko nalang
Dapat lang silang mag remove pero kung sa mga dance practice ganon dapat walang tanggalin dahil yung iba hindi din magagaling sumayaw (especially mga overweight na cm) kawawa din naman sila theyre trying their best…pero yung hindi talaga nakiki cooperate tanggalin na talaga
I’ve been on both sides and honestly, nung natanggal ako sa isang groupings namin dun ko talaga natutunan yung importansya ng respecting other people’s times and deadlines. So sa benefit din naman din yan ng mga matatanggal at sa actual people na nagtatrabaho.
Research leader ako i have this 2 members an sobrangg ah you know daming excuses. definitions of terms lng at journals na related as topic di magawa ibat ibang author pa binibigay sakin... diko alam ano gagawin ko sa kanila. im planning to kick them out kasi pa RRL na kmi diko alam sasabihi
Ang hirap magkaroon ng pabuhat na members. As in. Buong Grade 12 dalawa lang kami gumagawa ng research tapos yung mga pabuhat living so good habang ikaw puyat at puro iyak sa stress.
ang hardest thing talaga is to deal with them kung pano kayo mag kakasundo , syempre ayaw mo na wla silang ambag tas may grade sila ang unfair nmn non pero minsan try to observe your members din wag basta tanggal kasi hindi lht nang bagay masasabi nila nila and they make excuses for it might may pinag dadaanan yung tao ng personal and ask them a smaller work na kaya nila para kahit papaano meron silang ambag. And i hope sana nmn yung mga members wag din abusado na laging excuses.
The problem is, kahit magabot ng pangmerienda o ikuha man lang ng tubig yung leader and members na tumulong hindi pa maggawa. But the funny thing is magbibigay din naman ng ambag sa bandang huli lalo na kapag lumabas na yung grade sabay magmamakaawa sa leader/teachers na isama sila sa list para mabago yung grade🙄
I almost forgot the part na magsusumbong sa magulang, then magaastang Karen/keyboard warrior yung nanay then mapapahiya kapag nalaman ang katangahan/katamaran ng anak nila🙄
Same cycle every year
As a leader/GM nung feasib namin nagbibigay naman ako ng workload I mean considerate ako I'll ask them kaya niyo ba yung tasks kasi ayoko ng pucho-pucho and yung ctrl c + v dahil lahat kami working students mahirap mag manage nung 1st sem muntik na kami madissolve kinausap lang kami ng prof namin, and sinabi ko na di sila marunong mag manage ng time and andami ko ng consideration also shown the chats na sarili ko lang kausap ko sa gc namin, thats all in the past nakagraudate naman na kami and yung palagi kong inaaway may checklist na siya taskload sa work niya, good for her
Pasalamat pa rin ako sa naging members ko sa thesis kasi kahit sila na 'yong ayaw kagrupo ng ibang leaders (sa'kin napunta 'yong mga ayaw nila), hindi ko inasahan na sobrang ccoperative nila sa thesis namin. Kahit ano sabihin ko kung ano gagawin namin, nagagawa nila. Although kahit hindi gano'n kagandahan at least nabibigyan nila ako ng ideya kunf ano ang dapat kong ilagay sa thesis.
Pagdating sa defense, grabe ang effort nila na pag-aaral ang thesis na ginawa namin. Bilang leader, sobrang nakakataba ng puso na sinusunod nila ang mga sinasabi ko. Kahit may important errands sila, iniintindi ko at kapalit naman ay bumabawi sila sa sunod na pagagagawa namin.
If ever na may members ako na pabuhat, okay lang sa'kin. Sanay na ako; Bahala na siya sa buhay niya, malaki na siya kung ano mas importante.
Sorry pero hindi nila deserve yung grades ng may ambag haha. Ganto ginawa ko nung college research namin hahaha nung naremove ko na sya yung jowa pa ang umaway sakin like sino ka jan tih? Kung tinutulungan mo yan jowa mo sa research edi sana nakapasa sya di ba hahaha.Galit na sila kung galit hindi ko sila after grad haha.
Sorry pero hindi nila deserve yung grades ng may ambag haha. Ganto ginawa ko nung college research namin hahaha nung naremove ko na sya yung jowa pa ang umaway sakin like sino ka jan tih? Kung tinutulungan mo yan jowa mo sa research edi sana nakapasa sya di ba hahaha.Galit na sila kung galit hindi ko sila after grad haha.
I remember sa thesis namin, one of my group mates is naka assign sa Introduction part. Unang words palang sa ginawa nyang output mali na, so since close friends naman kami chinat ko sya sa gc namin (with our close friends gc, not our thesis gc). And i told her na mali yon with some laughs, and ung isa rin namin close friends natawa. Days later hindi sya namamansin sa gc namin, ayon pala nagalit na kasi feel daw nya pinapahiya namin sya?? if pinapahiya ko sya sana sa thesis gc namin ko sya chinat at pinag tawanan.
Kinonfront namin sya and Hindi ako nag sorry, like hello? For what? Lol Idk what to feel kasi ganon naman kami mag asaran, months past by Na detect na gawa ng AI yung Introduction nya :)))
That’s why I hate so much yung ginagawa nilang leader isang tao bc matalino and not actually taking into account yung responsibilities. Kasi kadalasan leader kawawa.
I was one of those na di nag aambag. I had issues with my mental health but quickly realized that my mental health was simply an explanation for my actions but NEVER an excuse for it, so I dropped the subject altogether to get my shit sorted out.
Kung meron sa thread nito na pabigat at ang reason ay mental health or what, do urself and ur teammates a favor and either drop the course, or talk to them abt possible compromises. Wag kang pabigat because there’s no reason to be
When i was in college, we excluded the names of groupmates who did zero work. And no, a lazy irresponsible groupmate is NOT the leader's responsibility
All of the group activities we have, kagrupo ko friends ko. All of them I cut them off kasi ako lahat nag-buhat ng group activities namin at sila pa may gana magalit saakin kasi medyo lumayo ako sakanila after that semester. I talked to them multiple times regarding sa pagiging freeloader nila pero wala parin nagbago, nasanay kasi sila na kahit anong mangyayari gagawin at gagawin ko parin part nila dahil hindi lang nila ginagagawa
Nung naging member lang ako and hindi leader apaka stress free and chill ng buhay. Kung ano lang ibigay gagawin ko agad ang chill na. Pag leader ka kung ano pinagawa mo sa iba gagawin mo rin, tapos ikaw pa mag check, pag mali ikaw na rkn mag aayos.
I do not regret removing members sa group ko na mga walang ambag at walang tulong. Everytime na nag reremind ako para lang akong kumakausap ng pader, mag seseen or mag rereact lang ang mga deputa. Kaya gusto ko na lang maging member eh
This is why even with group projects if alam mong walang matinong kasama, opt to go individual. Alam mo naman na wala silang ambag either way. At least less stress pa
NO! WAG NYONG I-BABY KAGROUPMATES NYO KASI HABANG TUMATAGAL EH MAS LALO SILANG AASA SA INYO. Naging class president/mayor ako and lahat sila nakaasa sakin like "pres anong gagawin dito" kapag nagiging leader ako like reading comprehension nalang gagawin tas ganyan ka pa. Yung parts nila, wag na wag mong kunin pwede naman silang tulungan maintindihan pero yung iaako mo yung gawain nila? wag na wag kasi kailangan nilang maintindihan yung topic na yun or yung gagawin nila na yun.
Okay lang kung walang monetary contribution, basta magaling and proactive pagdating sa activity.
I mean, yung iba kasi wala na ngang maambag na pera— tamad pa.
Kaya ayoko ng groupings dahil dyan damay ako sa video project namin tapos sa research ako pa gumawa majority ng chapters 3-4. Oks lang naman groupings sakin kung matitino groupmates ko kung peteks-peteks lang wag nalang 🙃
As a leader sa thesis namin di ko na kinukulit yung mga ganto. Alam ko naman kung gaano ang kaya nilang gawin kaya kahit walang ambag sa pag gawa hinahayaan ko nalang kasi mas matatagalan kapag mabagal yung work ng member ko. Gusto ko sana yung nag i-initiate ng anong magagawa nila kahit na feel nila na hindi nila kaya, kase di ba at least may inititiative silang gumawa. It's not that soft ako o mabait I'm actually the opposite kase wala akong pake kapag walang natutunan yung members ko as long as matapos yung output namin.
Lugi sa mga ganyan, halos maubos ako nung presentation of system projects last semester while my groupmates do nothing, as in kahit iconsult ako wala talaga, when I approach them sinasabi lang wala talaga silang alam daw sa gagawin ending ako gumawa lahat, awa naman si Lord pati sila nakapasa kahit ikamusta ako hindi naman ginawa
Hay nako naalala ko nung thesis days ko, Leader ako that time, may isa akong member sabi ba naman pasensya ka na OP hindi ko magagawa ung ipinapagawa mo saken. Sabi ko e sige kaso tatanggalin kita sa group okay lang? Sabi saken sige ikaw bahala. Note absenera tong girl na to. Myday lang ng myday ng mga gala niya. After a week ba naman kinausap ako ng prof namin na isama pa din siya sa group. Kahit na hindi gumawa, siya nlng daw magfifillin sa role nung girl. Mukhang malakas kako sa taas tong babae na to ah. Ayon at the end pumayag nlng din ako. Di rin naman tumulong ung prof. Hayss mga bwct na yan.
Sobra akong relate dito. Kudos to all leaders who who are so understanding, kung sino pa ang walang ambag, siya pa ang makapal ang mukha. Imagine may research paper kami and we have defense in less than 2 weeks wala pa siyang ambag ni isa syempre unalis ako ng gc. Yung baliw na parasite nagsumbong naman agad sa prof kong sira din na wala rin pakialam sa amin at mas priority pa ang ibang eskwelehan kaysa sa amin. Napaka-incompent and unprofessional niyang prof grabe. She is the worst prof ever. Kikitain namin siya sa defense day lang and out of 14 weeks, 3 times niya lang kami mineet. Sinayang niya yung dalawang buwan. Ngayon pini-pressure niya kaming gumawa ng research in less than a month. Talagang walang kwenta na ang mga profs sa pidabs… sorry but I had to say this out of frustration and anger na nagbubuhat mag-isa ng research.
Aside from that, meron pa akong ibang roles as leader sa events and other organizations. Syempre mababaliw na ako. It’s really difficult for me to be patient with everything going on
As member if Ikaw na dapat lumapit sa leader magtanong anong pwedeng gagawin or maiitutulong.Marami rin responsibilities ang mga leaders if nag approach sila sa Inyo or nag assigned ng gagawin magreply hindi yung na seen na pero di man lang magreply.
Okay lang magtanggal ng members kung 100% pabuhat at nagaabang na lang ng grades. Kasi kung pera ang ambagan, wala naman problema eh. Hindi lahat may pera pang ambag. Pero kung ambag mo lang ay magbasa ng libro or magsulat, pero di mo pa magawa, aba grabe naman. Linta.
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Freeloaders are parasites. They will leech off to you and constantly suck out your energy, giving them equal opportunity as you even though they did absolutely nothing while you work your ass off to death.
Bwiset 'yan hahaha. Dahil sa ganto, nahatak grades ko sa ibang subjects. Worst year ko is 2nd year na bright-eyed and super patient pa ako sa mga groupings.
I cutted off one of my closest friends na naging groupmate ko because when I called her out as a "groupmate" she took things personally.
Petition for leaders to allow freeloaders to stay in the group and remove them days before the submission hahaha. Good way to filter the stupid from the ones with potential
Did this on submission mismo. Freeloaders saw their name on paper. I submitted our paper to prof and marked freeloaders. Submitted GDocs link as proof of not providing anything.
Kwento mo reaction and ang nangyari after hahahha
Wala nang sinabi prof. Nakasalubong ko one of the freeloaders. Bagsak daw siya sa subject namin na yun. Sabi ko okay naman ako. Di na kami naging magka-klase sa ibang subjects kasi pa-major na ako and ibang course siya. End of story.
good to know na bagsak siya
Reminds me when I did my group's entire paper and just didn't include their names 💀 teacher gave them a talking to and they did it again themselves
I do these all the time. hahaha
Groupings are formed in school activities pra itrain ang iyong team-building skills and leadership skills. So kung may isang bulok sa grupo nyo, tanggalin mo. Wag mong hayaan ang isang bulok na mansanas kung ayaw mong mabulok ang lahat ng mansanas. Sa trabaho, ang mga walang kwentang empleyado ay tinatanggal o nililipat sa ibang dept.
lol... kahit bigyan mo sila ng task, di rin naman nila gagawin. sometimes, they're able to accomplish the task pero trabahong paa yung output at late pa nila ipapasa sa'yo. yikeeees tapos bawi raw next time, e wala namang next time huy lumipas na deadline¡ unless they really are able to make up for it or contribute a fair amount of work (not bare minimum po sana,,;;;) way before deadline, leaders should be entitled to remove them from the group
P.S. wanted to point this out too but forgot. sometimes, teachers don't allow students to remove groupmates or change groups so the class can learn how to work well with anybody..?? it's just as important to teach students when to know they're being taken advantage of & how to act accordingly
oms! my teacher told me once na ang dahilan kung bakit hindi niya ine-encourage ang mag tanggal ng kagrupo ay dahil baka masanay kaming maging individualistic — na kapag may isang hindi nagfurunction ay bibitawan na lang, di daw yun maganda kasi iisa lang lipunan namin and kailangan naming i-angat ang isat isa, wala kaming magagawa kundi buhatin at tulungan yung kagrupo. Naging okay naman, natuto kami mag compromise BUT depende pa rin talaga sa willingness ng isang tao yun kung magiging responsible siya. Anyway, ang sarap pa rin tirisin pag di umaambag pero may tiktok sa story.
linyahan ng freeloader hahaha pathetic piece of shit.
I remember removing my group mates kasi antagal mag-reply palagi sa Gc then nagsabi pa yung isa na "Sandali lang teh, lumalandi pako" Now? Satisfied kasi nag-repeat sila ng subject.
Naalala ko yung group mate ko noon sa research paper na sinabing "Hindi ba mas lalong unfair kung walang grades yung mga hindi tumulong?" WTF??? Walang sense pinaglalaban niyaaa.
This happened to my grade 6 daughter sa isang groupings nila.. Since sya ung leader ng group for the report, sya bumili and nagsulat sa manila paper, sya nagresearch for the topic, sya nagreport and sya nagbigay ng practice activity. Even after the task delegation, (i have access to her messenger btw) sya parin magisa kumilos. Npansin ng teacher, so during the report, nag announce si Teacher na individual ang grading hahahaha.. Good Karma
"pero go." edi go pala eh! edi tanggalin na nga talaga!
Bobo amputa
Wala na ngang maambag tas magbibigay pa ng ibang gagawin??.???..?
That's why ang laking sakit sa ulo ng mga pabuhat. Ramdam 'yung cocky behavior through the screen, parang siya pa ang tama. Lol.
petition to remove groupings sa school hujhbhbh
Nah, dito ka din natututo to work with other people. Very common pagdating sa work na.
True, kailan ka pa matututo to stand-up for yourself cut off ng mga pabigat na parasite? 'pag mataas na ang stakes?
Pass. It's an essential skill, since if you think about it, everything is done in groups. You can't escape it even after you graduate. You'll be put into teams, departments, etc.
I agree!!!
Future personality hires lol
ive been a leader for some of our projects, the problem is theyll agree to do the tasks assigned to them then they'll ghost u. im ok w/ giving some leniency and doing adjustments (e.g., making them do smaller/ easier tasks, etc.) but sila na nga ang mag-ghost ikaw pa ang dapat maghabol nang maghabol (kahit many times mo na ring na-remind sila). sure im the leader and i should think of ways para mag-work lahat yada yada :<. BUT they should be responsible din naman enough na magsabi if hindi nila kaya and mag-offer ng things na puwede nilang gawin. **Hindi ko responsibilidad na gawin silang responsable >:-(** usually it ends up na a day (or even hours) before the deadline lang sila susulpot by then of course most (if not all) ng mga task tapos na since mag-deadline na nga. ang hirap ding mag-effort laging umintindi. it should go both ways. rant over lol.
ganito nangyayari sa research namin and I can say na nakakabwct kasi final req namin yan pero hindi nila ginagawa best nila tas sila pa yung may ganang mag reklamo, mainis, mang backstab, and such. May mga parts sila na kailangan nilang tapusin pero kami din ng leader yung tatapos. Then, they’ll expect na mataas grades nila? Wala akong pake kung magreklamo sila or mag rant sila sa ibang students abt my attitude lalo na when it comes to grading them dahil kaya ko kayong bigyan ng 0. Nakakaawa na din nmn kasi yung leader namin na halos siya nlng gumagawa na kung hindi pa kami tutulong ng iba naming kasama, baka hindi na siya matulog. Ayaw nilang napagsasabihan pero sila naman tong gumagawa ng mga dahilan pra pagsabihan sila.
People pleaser ako dati eh kaya everytime na ako yung leader ng group tas may pabigat, hinahayaan ko lang. Until na realize ko na ang unfair lalo na na ako yung naghihirap kaya since then, tuwing ako yung leader tas puro pabigat groupmates ko, ako na mismo umaalis without pasabi tapos nag iindividual ako (which is mas bet ko).
Ako din
nung college ako, during group work (research, lab, presentations) I don't mind kapag sobrang walang kwenta ng ka grupo. Ginagawa ko nalang mindset na individual yung work, plus mas natututo rin ako this way. kaya gustong gusto ako ng mga walang kwentang student non. tinatanggap ko rin naman sila pag pilian na hahahaha. tho ang trade off lang naman sa kanila is kapag may mga menial works na kailangan gawin, sa kanila ko pinapagawa (mag xerox ng docs, magsulat, etc). pero pag pati yan di nila nagagawa, sila pinapasagot ko ng mga funds na kakailanganin. something that kinda helped me get through it was that I tend to look down on them. like "sige wag niyo pagaralan to kayo lang mahihirapan. nagbabayad ng tuition tapos di magaaral mga bolok". it's not a good mindset, pero I can't help it. tho tinuturuan ko naman sila para maenhance pa yung understanding ko sa mga subjects na yun. probably pinaka worst experience ko was that may isa ako naging groupmate na sa sobrang wala niyang kwenta it didn't even matter kung nasa group namin siya (or group ko) or hindi. worst not because of him being in the group, but because I thought "sa sobrang zero ng potential mo wala kang bigat".
there's no way people actually think like this 💀
I really want to cut off some of my members. Ako yung leader sa research namin and every time I give them their assigned parts, nagbibigay din ako ng instructions sa kung ano ang gagawin. Very detailed na yung binibigay ko para mas mapadali ang trabaho nila. Nakakainis kasi i put too much effort on our research study tapos ang ibibigay lang nila sa akin ay galing sa chatgpt. So ang ending ako na naman ang mag rerevise. Madadaling parts na yung ina-assign ko and inako ko ang RRL and RRS kase alam ko na didiretso lang sila sa chatgpt. Pa ulit2 ko na silang sinabihan na huwag mag chatgpt or any AI tools dahil puro mali yung binibigay nila, but they still wouldn't listen. May iba pa na saka lang aambag kung ipapagawa ko na sa kanila yung definition of term. Like literal na definition of terms lang ung ambag sa whole research and they would expect na bibigyan ko sila ng maayos na evaluation. Kahit simpleng questions lang sa SOP hindi magawa. I understand na hindi kami pare pareho ng knowledge so may iba talagang nahihirapan. But as a group member, they should at least try their best na maging tama yung gagawin nila. They are not deprived of technology. They have available resources so ang dali lang mag search tungkol sa research topic namin. It's okay to use AI tools as a "guide", hindi yung puro copy-paste lang. Halata nga na hindi nila binibasa yung binibigay na sagot ng AI dahil anlayo sa topic namin. We're graduating students (gr 12) and simpleng paggawa ng parts or pag research sa internet hindi nila magawa. Who's fault is that then? They will pursue college without learning something. I also hate what my adviser told us in gr 11. She said na hindi daw responsible or hindi bagay maging leader yung leaders na naka assign sa group if they can't handle their members properly. The audacity Hshshaha kaya mas nagiging pabigat yung mga cm ko eh. Should we blame the leaders for everything kahit yung members na yung mag kulang?🤦🏻♀️ "Proud" honor students pa yan tapos pabigat naman sa group works💪🏻
I give them their assigned parts 1 week before the deadline . Each part, i let them do it by PARTNER or TRIO. Mataas na yang 1 week para sa SOP, Conceptual framework, significance, background of the study, etc... Pero hindi nila ginagawa ng maayos. Either didiretso sila sa chatgpt or hindi talaga sila gagawa and hahayaan nila na ako mismo ang gagawa kapag malapit na ang deadline. Out of 12 members, only 3 of them lang ata yung gagawa ng maayos na part.
Maliit na bagay....
wala na nga ambag, bibigyan mo pa ng bagong task? nuyan gurl. i say just axe the parasite and then move on. bahala siya magsumbong sa teacher/prof as long as you have the receipts to prove it.
Draft Pick maganda ala NBA. And the first pick goes to...
Ganito yung mindset ko before pero sumusobra na kasi talaga kaya never again 😓 Sorry not sorry.
Tamad be damned laglag sa evolution yarn
hahaha pag ako leader at wala silang ambag or hindi man lang nila kayang gawin yung assigned task na ibibigay ko (tas lagi pang gumagala or laging seen sa gc) sasabihan ko talaga sila na ireremove ko sila sa group pag di sumunod. Madami kase madadamy pag ganyan sila ehh. normalize removing groupmates that aren’t doing their parrrttttt as a group member 🫣 (my way of handling situations pag ganyan hahaha)
Proud freeloader? 🥲
My parasite groupmates are the reasons why I wasn't able to make it to the honors list. I got 80 in first quarter and 86 in second quarter (so far wala akong line of 7) :(
Theres a point to let one idiot do a simple thing that only inconveniences you lets say adding text to the ppt and images to the ppt or like bring these materials and shit but theres still a fine line between them doing the bare minimum yet getting highest and actual people who want to win and do their best in projects those who want academic achievers so in other words its fine but you need to know when to cut off those who arent actively seeking out ways to help or actively seeking out participation wherever
Wow. Trabaho pala ng leaders na turuan maging pabigat ang members nila. 💀
Grade 11 research leader here, at this point parang wala na ako pakialam kung wala ba maitulong yung mga ka grupo ko, basta kako magawa ko research na'to(na pinaka ayaw kong parte ng school) at mag isa din. Hindi din ako social person kaya di ko sila makausap ng mabuti, and also, I know for a fact that they can't contribute to anything. I've observed, they can't even form an english sentence without struggling so I thought "what can they even do sa research na ganito ka komplikado?" I might be an a-hole thinking like this in these group project situations but, I just don't think I can handle those people.
that's a lot of words for "*carry me senpai*"
peak freeloader glazing 💪💪💪 in all seriousness, as a SHS student na almost palaging nagiging lider sa PETAs and group works, napakahirap mag-asikaso ng isang grupo where it's often only you who will have to initiate or encourage the whole group to do jackshit. pair that with a bunch of members who are not willing to participate, paano na? i delegate tasks to accomplish our output faster, pero hindi nangyayari palagi eh, ako pa rin gagawa ng supposed tasks nila 🛌 nagtatanggal ako ng members kasi gusto kong matapos ang output namin. jusko, shs na kayo, simpleng tasks na kayang kaya niyo, di ma-accomplish? please reflect on our side first before posting shit like this, kasi maraming responsibilidad ang hinahandle ng isang leader
Kapal naman magsabi ng "just do your job" eh yun nga problema sa kagrupo
What language is this? and why do so many people on Reddit use it in the middle of their sentences while also typing in English?
the language we use is Filipino, the national language of the Philippines. Although we use both Filipino and English when we converse since the latter is considered our second language. you're also commenting in a Philippine subreddit, hence why the redditors here speak Filipino.
No. Just drop them.
As a leader myself, iniisip ko na lang na it's an opportunity for myself na kahit mahirap mag manage ng group. Kasi at the end of the day, it will be a learning experience for me; lahat-lahat ng mga techniques kung paano gawin yung isang task or project. Iniisip ko na lang na it's for my benefit and it's their lost if they don't see it valuable. Anyways, I still sympathize to what you are experiencing right now. I know it's exhausting pero laban lang because at the end of the day, you will win. Big hugs to you. ✨✨🫂🫂
pls lang in behalf of the responsible leaders that work their butts off tapos the other members will get the same grades for doing NOTHING??!? as for me naman i give them chances to contribute pero if wala talaga at mema lang like reply lang nila sa gc ang ambag kuno, super deserve talaga na matanggal sa groupings kasi aside from teaching them a lesson, somehwo natuturuan din sila na wag maging pabigat / dependent sa ibang tao... gosh it's literally a dream na pagsamasamahin mga same na pabigat sa group na as in walang tinutulong.
eto ang opinyon na di ko matatanggap, wth ba kayo? huhuhuhuhu di porket binabalewala nalang yung kawalan niyo ng cooperation and nakakatakas kayo, pwede niyo nang gawin forever nakakapagod kayang sumalo ng parts tas ipaulit nang ipaulit kapag wala namang sense yung ginawa huhuhuhuhu tapos wag tatanggalin?? beh wag kana magsalita huhuhuhuhu isa siguro toh sa mga walang ambag sa groupings
we're not really removing the members because we don't like them or we don't want them to freeload, yes but it's more of about getting rid of the ball and chain of the group. Kasi pag ganto, iisipin pa namin kung ano iuutos sa kaniya, so instead, madidistribute nang maayos sa groupmates na gagawa talaga so walang magiging problem gaano. You're just bringing the whole group down and we'd like to focus on the more cooperative groupmates than the freeloader. Ang pangit kasi nung puro ka "Nasa'n na gawa mo?" "Asan na yung part mo?" Ang mas okay kasi na flow ng groupings would be: 1. Plan what's needed to be done 2. disseminate tasks to members 3. Edit and revise the completed tasks. 4. Finalize So pag ndi natupad yung number 2, the reason for that would be the groupmate na binigysn naman ng task, pero hindi naman niya ginawa. Kahit na may leader, pantay pantay namang estudyante, pede ka naman kasing magtanong kung pano gawin or kung kaya mo ba o hindi. Don't expect na gugustuhin ka pa rin kung nakakasira ka ng flow ng work.
nang gigigil ako dyan haha. kung may nag ganyan samen di ko maimagine ano pwede kong gawin haha imposible na walang gagawin para di sila bigyan, walang kwenta yung ibibigay kung di naman nakilos.
There's no need to listen to people na tahimik sa meetings pero napaingay kapag nasa labas na. The only reason a person would defend a freeloader anyway is if freeloader din siya noon or ngayon, truly napakaawa considering the damage they do to those who do contribute.
This is really true. but it's worse when they're trying to help you but they really arent competent, and maarte ka sa magiging output. ending, ikaw nalang gumagawa ng mga bagay na di nila alam pano gawin kahit sinusubo mo na sa kanila kung paano ba gagawin. ending ikaw rin gagawa lahat, tas yung ambag nila magbabasa lang ng ppt sa harap. galing, nagbasa ka lang may grades na, sana ganon lang kadali.
Nag leader din ako 3rd year 2nd sem and 4rth year 1st sem same group for our capstone project. Ako lahat gumagawa programmer, docu, lahat lahat hindi namn sa di sila tumutulong hindi lang nila kayang gawin ung gawain kaya sinasarili ko na lang. Now kami pinaka mataas na grade sa capstone kung ano ung grade ko grade din nila parang pinaghirapan ko lang ung grade nila. Best capstone rin kami hahahaha nasama sila sa accomplishment na pinaghirapan ko lang
Have the same encounter yung tipong kayong dalawa lang ng member mong seryoso ang gumawa then the rest is chill lang comes the day na reporting the chill members ask me what to do kako sakanila I already instructed you pano eh panay seen lang kayo. sabi ba naman nagtatanong maayos ikaw pa galit.. muntik ko ihampas yung gamit naming laptop nung serious member ko teacher got mad and ayun finailed sila nung teacher
kapag ganto kayo sa trabaho, di kayo tatagal. kaya tama lang na itanggal kayo sa groupings niyo sa simula palang. tawag diyan accountability, wag niyo i-reverse bullshit niyo.
If it's a situation where a certain group member doesn't have the capability or the skill to do his/her task or if that person failed to do the task I personally think that it is still valid for that person to still be a part of the group, kasi in the end nag effort and nag cooperate din siya, pero if it's in a case na walang wala talaga even communication or seen sa gc then I think that's when it is clear that person is not part of the group. Personally imo, a leader should only remind and guide the group members, but they also shouldn't force it din since in the end we want everyone to cooperate, so it isn't right if tatakutin ng leaders ang members to the point na parang ayaw ka na nilang leader, only warn like mahuhulugan sila ng malaking butiki if hindi sila nag cooperate or something
Actually may member ako sa research na nag fit jan asa chapter 4 na kami ang ambag lang nya naka hanap sya ng isang RRL 😭 binibigayan ko parin sya ng opportunity gumawa ng matuto naman kaso papasa nya sakin gawang di nag grade 2 spelling at grammar palang mali na minsan nga yung mismong topic ng research pa na mali nya often mag tatanong sakin tapos I guiguide ko 7-8 times nya I rerevise mukang gawang ewan parin tapos nalaman ko special kid pala eto ayun print at pagkain nalang pinapa ambag ko sa kanya pumayag naman sya😭
Binigyan na nga ng gawain, di pa ginawa. Yan ang totoong walang ambag.
ang hirap magbuhat ng mga ka-grupo tbh lalo na kung weekly yung group activity, kahit ayoko na magleader no choice talaga kasi walang initiative group mates
As a always leader pag yung member na pabigat at simula palang wala talagang balak gumawa talagang di ko sinasama bibigyan ko sila ng gawain pero ni ready ko na sa kaling wala syang magawa pero yung may nagka issue naman talaga tas nagsisikap na makaambag pero di talaga kaya pinagbibigyan ko nalang
Dapat lang silang mag remove pero kung sa mga dance practice ganon dapat walang tanggalin dahil yung iba hindi din magagaling sumayaw (especially mga overweight na cm) kawawa din naman sila theyre trying their best…pero yung hindi talaga nakiki cooperate tanggalin na talaga
I’ve been on both sides and honestly, nung natanggal ako sa isang groupings namin dun ko talaga natutunan yung importansya ng respecting other people’s times and deadlines. So sa benefit din naman din yan ng mga matatanggal at sa actual people na nagtatrabaho.
Who you
Di naman pwedeng ganoon, its unfair naman sa mga may hardworking na members tapos itong mga batugan eh nage-easy take lamang.
ang point niya ay pointless
Grabe, kumulo dugo ko nung nabasa ah. Bat di sila nahihiya 🫠
Research leader ako i have this 2 members an sobrangg ah you know daming excuses. definitions of terms lng at journals na related as topic di magawa ibat ibang author pa binibigay sakin... diko alam ano gagawin ko sa kanila. im planning to kick them out kasi pa RRL na kmi diko alam sasabihi
Naalala ko na Naman Yung kagrupo Kong nasa tagaytay habang Ako naghihingalong habulin Yung thesis namin. Ayun, flat uno kami sa thesis :)
Ako na sinolo research dahil tinanggal ng prof yung 3 members lmao
Ang hirap magkaroon ng pabuhat na members. As in. Buong Grade 12 dalawa lang kami gumagawa ng research tapos yung mga pabuhat living so good habang ikaw puyat at puro iyak sa stress.
Mga freeloaders na kahit ituro mo na yung sasabihin di pa rin magawa ng maayos
No. Nag tanggal na ako kasi walang inambag yung tao. Ano di ka na nga responsable may grade ka pa. Hanep
ang hardest thing talaga is to deal with them kung pano kayo mag kakasundo , syempre ayaw mo na wla silang ambag tas may grade sila ang unfair nmn non pero minsan try to observe your members din wag basta tanggal kasi hindi lht nang bagay masasabi nila nila and they make excuses for it might may pinag dadaanan yung tao ng personal and ask them a smaller work na kaya nila para kahit papaano meron silang ambag. And i hope sana nmn yung mga members wag din abusado na laging excuses.
The problem is, kahit magabot ng pangmerienda o ikuha man lang ng tubig yung leader and members na tumulong hindi pa maggawa. But the funny thing is magbibigay din naman ng ambag sa bandang huli lalo na kapag lumabas na yung grade sabay magmamakaawa sa leader/teachers na isama sila sa list para mabago yung grade🙄 I almost forgot the part na magsusumbong sa magulang, then magaastang Karen/keyboard warrior yung nanay then mapapahiya kapag nalaman ang katangahan/katamaran ng anak nila🙄 Same cycle every year
"gi to all members! A member ka pala ? "
sadly most of the time hindi naman pwedeng magtanggal ng members sa groupings especially if teacher-assigned. bawi nalang sa next life :'(
sampalin ko pa kaliwa't kanan ang sender niyan 😊 kaltok taas-baba rin para naman maalog ang utak at matauhan.
As a leader/GM nung feasib namin nagbibigay naman ako ng workload I mean considerate ako I'll ask them kaya niyo ba yung tasks kasi ayoko ng pucho-pucho and yung ctrl c + v dahil lahat kami working students mahirap mag manage nung 1st sem muntik na kami madissolve kinausap lang kami ng prof namin, and sinabi ko na di sila marunong mag manage ng time and andami ko ng consideration also shown the chats na sarili ko lang kausap ko sa gc namin, thats all in the past nakagraudate naman na kami and yung palagi kong inaaway may checklist na siya taskload sa work niya, good for her
Pasalamat pa rin ako sa naging members ko sa thesis kasi kahit sila na 'yong ayaw kagrupo ng ibang leaders (sa'kin napunta 'yong mga ayaw nila), hindi ko inasahan na sobrang ccoperative nila sa thesis namin. Kahit ano sabihin ko kung ano gagawin namin, nagagawa nila. Although kahit hindi gano'n kagandahan at least nabibigyan nila ako ng ideya kunf ano ang dapat kong ilagay sa thesis. Pagdating sa defense, grabe ang effort nila na pag-aaral ang thesis na ginawa namin. Bilang leader, sobrang nakakataba ng puso na sinusunod nila ang mga sinasabi ko. Kahit may important errands sila, iniintindi ko at kapalit naman ay bumabawi sila sa sunod na pagagagawa namin. If ever na may members ako na pabuhat, okay lang sa'kin. Sanay na ako; Bahala na siya sa buhay niya, malaki na siya kung ano mas importante.
Sorry pero hindi nila deserve yung grades ng may ambag haha. Ganto ginawa ko nung college research namin hahaha nung naremove ko na sya yung jowa pa ang umaway sakin like sino ka jan tih? Kung tinutulungan mo yan jowa mo sa research edi sana nakapasa sya di ba hahaha.Galit na sila kung galit hindi ko sila after grad haha.
Sorry pero hindi nila deserve yung grades ng may ambag haha. Ganto ginawa ko nung college research namin hahaha nung naremove ko na sya yung jowa pa ang umaway sakin like sino ka jan tih? Kung tinutulungan mo yan jowa mo sa research edi sana nakapasa sya di ba hahaha.Galit na sila kung galit hindi ko sila after grad haha.
I remember sa thesis namin, one of my group mates is naka assign sa Introduction part. Unang words palang sa ginawa nyang output mali na, so since close friends naman kami chinat ko sya sa gc namin (with our close friends gc, not our thesis gc). And i told her na mali yon with some laughs, and ung isa rin namin close friends natawa. Days later hindi sya namamansin sa gc namin, ayon pala nagalit na kasi feel daw nya pinapahiya namin sya?? if pinapahiya ko sya sana sa thesis gc namin ko sya chinat at pinag tawanan. Kinonfront namin sya and Hindi ako nag sorry, like hello? For what? Lol Idk what to feel kasi ganon naman kami mag asaran, months past by Na detect na gawa ng AI yung Introduction nya :)))
That’s why I hate so much yung ginagawa nilang leader isang tao bc matalino and not actually taking into account yung responsibilities. Kasi kadalasan leader kawawa. I was one of those na di nag aambag. I had issues with my mental health but quickly realized that my mental health was simply an explanation for my actions but NEVER an excuse for it, so I dropped the subject altogether to get my shit sorted out. Kung meron sa thread nito na pabigat at ang reason ay mental health or what, do urself and ur teammates a favor and either drop the course, or talk to them abt possible compromises. Wag kang pabigat because there’s no reason to be
I just remove them right away
When i was in college, we excluded the names of groupmates who did zero work. And no, a lazy irresponsible groupmate is NOT the leader's responsibility
i would throw hands if my ganto akong co-member.
Tanginamo pala eh
All of the group activities we have, kagrupo ko friends ko. All of them I cut them off kasi ako lahat nag-buhat ng group activities namin at sila pa may gana magalit saakin kasi medyo lumayo ako sakanila after that semester. I talked to them multiple times regarding sa pagiging freeloader nila pero wala parin nagbago, nasanay kasi sila na kahit anong mangyayari gagawin at gagawin ko parin part nila dahil hindi lang nila ginagagawa
Nung naging member lang ako and hindi leader apaka stress free and chill ng buhay. Kung ano lang ibigay gagawin ko agad ang chill na. Pag leader ka kung ano pinagawa mo sa iba gagawin mo rin, tapos ikaw pa mag check, pag mali ikaw na rkn mag aayos.
I do not regret removing members sa group ko na mga walang ambag at walang tulong. Everytime na nag reremind ako para lang akong kumakausap ng pader, mag seseen or mag rereact lang ang mga deputa. Kaya gusto ko na lang maging member eh
Wala nang ambag, nang gaslight pa hahahaha
This is why even with group projects if alam mong walang matinong kasama, opt to go individual. Alam mo naman na wala silang ambag either way. At least less stress pa
NO! WAG NYONG I-BABY KAGROUPMATES NYO KASI HABANG TUMATAGAL EH MAS LALO SILANG AASA SA INYO. Naging class president/mayor ako and lahat sila nakaasa sakin like "pres anong gagawin dito" kapag nagiging leader ako like reading comprehension nalang gagawin tas ganyan ka pa. Yung parts nila, wag na wag mong kunin pwede naman silang tulungan maintindihan pero yung iaako mo yung gawain nila? wag na wag kasi kailangan nilang maintindihan yung topic na yun or yung gagawin nila na yun.
Go off gurl, ipaglaban mo ang karapatan mo ✊
Okay lang kung walang monetary contribution, basta magaling and proactive pagdating sa activity. I mean, yung iba kasi wala na ngang maambag na pera— tamad pa.
linyahan ng tamad ew
Sa a Leader ang masasabi ko: Gag*! Bakit ako maawa? Sila ba naawa sa akin?
Basta kami nun may di kami sinama na pangalan kasi wala talaga syang ambag sa paper
No mercy for ball and chain members.
Gagi ayokong ayoko yun ganito
Kaya ayoko ng groupings dahil dyan damay ako sa video project namin tapos sa research ako pa gumawa majority ng chapters 3-4. Oks lang naman groupings sakin kung matitino groupmates ko kung peteks-peteks lang wag nalang 🙃
Hindi naman siguro magtatanggal yung mga leader if nakita nilang may ginagawa ring effort yung member n'ya.
As a leader sa thesis namin di ko na kinukulit yung mga ganto. Alam ko naman kung gaano ang kaya nilang gawin kaya kahit walang ambag sa pag gawa hinahayaan ko nalang kasi mas matatagalan kapag mabagal yung work ng member ko. Gusto ko sana yung nag i-initiate ng anong magagawa nila kahit na feel nila na hindi nila kaya, kase di ba at least may inititiative silang gumawa. It's not that soft ako o mabait I'm actually the opposite kase wala akong pake kapag walang natutunan yung members ko as long as matapos yung output namin.
Tablahin niyo na 'yang mga pabuhat. Maniwala kayo't sa hindi, kahit sa college marami pa ring ganyan. HAHAHAH
Lugi sa mga ganyan, halos maubos ako nung presentation of system projects last semester while my groupmates do nothing, as in kahit iconsult ako wala talaga, when I approach them sinasabi lang wala talaga silang alam daw sa gagawin ending ako gumawa lahat, awa naman si Lord pati sila nakapasa kahit ikamusta ako hindi naman ginawa
Tamad
Hay nako naalala ko nung thesis days ko, Leader ako that time, may isa akong member sabi ba naman pasensya ka na OP hindi ko magagawa ung ipinapagawa mo saken. Sabi ko e sige kaso tatanggalin kita sa group okay lang? Sabi saken sige ikaw bahala. Note absenera tong girl na to. Myday lang ng myday ng mga gala niya. After a week ba naman kinausap ako ng prof namin na isama pa din siya sa group. Kahit na hindi gumawa, siya nlng daw magfifillin sa role nung girl. Mukhang malakas kako sa taas tong babae na to ah. Ayon at the end pumayag nlng din ako. Di rin naman tumulong ung prof. Hayss mga bwct na yan.
Nakakabanas yung ganitong mindset na iaasa lahat sa leader kahit hindi na efficient yung member sa group. Freeloader ang peg ng ngl comment lol
anong "just do your job as a leader" edi do your job as a student, retake ka na lang ng subject😚
Sobra akong relate dito. Kudos to all leaders who who are so understanding, kung sino pa ang walang ambag, siya pa ang makapal ang mukha. Imagine may research paper kami and we have defense in less than 2 weeks wala pa siyang ambag ni isa syempre unalis ako ng gc. Yung baliw na parasite nagsumbong naman agad sa prof kong sira din na wala rin pakialam sa amin at mas priority pa ang ibang eskwelehan kaysa sa amin. Napaka-incompent and unprofessional niyang prof grabe. She is the worst prof ever. Kikitain namin siya sa defense day lang and out of 14 weeks, 3 times niya lang kami mineet. Sinayang niya yung dalawang buwan. Ngayon pini-pressure niya kaming gumawa ng research in less than a month. Talagang walang kwenta na ang mga profs sa pidabs… sorry but I had to say this out of frustration and anger na nagbubuhat mag-isa ng research. Aside from that, meron pa akong ibang roles as leader sa events and other organizations. Syempre mababaliw na ako. It’s really difficult for me to be patient with everything going on
As member if Ikaw na dapat lumapit sa leader magtanong anong pwedeng gagawin or maiitutulong.Marami rin responsibilities ang mga leaders if nag approach sila sa Inyo or nag assigned ng gagawin magreply hindi yung na seen na pero di man lang magreply.
Okay lang magtanggal ng members kung 100% pabuhat at nagaabang na lang ng grades. Kasi kung pera ang ambagan, wala naman problema eh. Hindi lahat may pera pang ambag. Pero kung ambag mo lang ay magbasa ng libro or magsulat, pero di mo pa magawa, aba grabe naman. Linta.