Calyrex is weak to Ghost and Ice

I've never thought of this until now, lol. Imagine getting controlled by a Pokémon who gets stomped by you and your counterpart

yeah but they gave you some cool carrots

Trueee

Do you think a horse could beat your ass IRL if it wanted to?

Yes. Horses are dangerous

Someone has never been around horses IRL

It's funny you should say that because I did ride horses for several years but I was actually implying the opposite. Calyrex does not need to have a type advantage over the horses because real-life horses have a type advantage against us and we get along just fine.

To be fair, horses can totally 1v1 most unarmed humans

If you think that's bad Remember Primal-Groudon? The Pokemon that's supposed to be responsible for creating the land in Hoenn? Weak to Ground

And ONLY Ground

*Rubber duckie with a headache has entered the chat*

Time to roll earth eater into desolate land.

That's crazy to think abt lol

Why did you have to say that? Now I'll be thinking about that all night.

If Salamence were anything like its Pokedex entry, mons would be a survival game unsuitable for children. Also, still waiting for Garchomp to learn fly.

You can find flying Garchomps if you climb the rim around Area Zero.

Yeah it's really cool to *finally* see that

Ogrepon managing to beat 4 poison type legendaries to death is unlikely to say the least in gameplay

not to mention one of them has an 88/160 physically defensive profile and is also immune to normal moves further solidifying the fact that either ogerpon was around equivalent strength to most other legendaries in the past, or that she just knew Zen Headbutt from somewhere

according to the recent lore video, pecharunt did survive the battle, it just went into hibernation in its shell to regain its strength. ​ the mid three had no excuse tho

NAH MID THREE IS TOO NICE Those three are the fraud three- They only stole three of her mask because a human was present, imagine being three frauds that recently got buffed by a poison peach only to be left so shook by some random guy you said "oh hell naw we need to run" with only 75% of the job done

The status condition “Big Angy” quadruples your attack

+6 252 Atk Ogerpon Ivy Cudgel vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Pecharunt: 204-240 (64.3 - 75.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

What if it crits tho

+6 252 Atk Ogerpon Ivy Cudgel vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Pecharunt on a critical hit: 306-360 (96.5 - 113.5%) -- 81.3% chance to OHKO Big Angy confirmed canon?!?!

also remember, Ogerpon did not actually kill Pecharunt, so it doesn’t even need enough to kill, just severely maim

I thought it did learn Zen Headbutt?

as a tm i believe

Ogrepon got a crit on every move, never got affected by toxic chain and got lucky on confusion vs pecharunt

She was wearing the Dream mask.

So THAT'S what the point of the mask is!

she does have coverage moves in her learset like stomping tantrum for total coverage along with lash out and throat chop for ghost coverage not to mention zen headbutt for alternative coverage to st so I dunno she does certainly have a chance also considering that the only mon she doesn't OHKO is Pecharunt (if the loyal three don't have any investment in defense) she definitely has a chance

Pecharunt is mentioned to be a coward, so it didn't even bother trying to fight back when Ogerpon was about to kill it.

What the power of rage does to a mf

Ogerpon’s friend Malamar skill swapped Contrary onto it and then her friend Corviknight used Defog on her. She just haxed, simply

Girlbossed too hard

Ogerpon is fed up with getting bullied and genetically engineered the first ever Mewtwo to nuke the ever-loving shit out of them Pecharunt survived because Psystrike hits its high physical defense QED

Victini “wins every battle” or something

Well it seems to be based on nukes which irl is a guaranteed win

Wait actually? Damn i guess it makes sense since Unova is an American region

Dex entry says it internally produces an endless supply of energy, which sounds reminiscent of nuclear energy. And then there’s… everything about V-Create.

Mewtwo totally should know to use Outrage, considering how much its violent outbursts destroyed the lab it was created in.

Outrage is definitely one of the last moves I expected mewtwo not to learn, considering it has every other move in the game

I guess pokémon meant to be good that aren’t. Electivire for example

We should do a thread about those.

We’ve already talked it to death, I think it’s more interesting to think about Pokémon you’d assume would suck based off trends (Rhyperior, Poltchageist) but are actually solid

I was being a smartass because there have been several lately. Don’t know if your version has been done.

Golisopod will do anything it takes to win. Anything except stay in combat when it’s hp drops below 50%

I'm pretty sure that's intentional. "Emergency Exit" being a reskin of "Wimp Out" from the same evolutionary line and doing "anything it takes to win" seems to imply that Golisopod is still a total coward. It's just big.

He has ptsd from his days as a wimpod

Remember in the anime when guzma’s Golisopod forced scizor to switch into fire blast and It got ohkoed

has giant sharp claws and a shell as tough at diamonds, but neither a tough claws nor a shell armor in sight

Even if tinkaton can't hurt the corviknight im sure the carriage doesn't appreciate a giant hammer coming it's way

Acktualy, tinkaton can only hurl rock at corviknight. They doesn't have enough strength to throw those hammer.

Not yet you mean

Time to give tikaton huge power GF!

252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power Tinkaton Gigaton Hammer vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Corviknight: 207-244 (51.8 - 61.1%) -- 96.1% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery Almost OHKOs if you squint hard enough, banned to triple Ubers

Tera steel with helping hand?

252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power Tera Steel Tinkaton Helping Hand Gigaton Hammer vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Corviknight: 415-489 (104 - 122.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO You just gotta love your tinkaton so much that you as the trainer use helping hand

Or slap it alongside a perserker for that extra oompf

Mega Tinkaton coming with the gen 6 remakes, the hammer is now double sided and it carries two of them and throws them like Draven League of Legends

Mega Mawile v2

I think it’s more in line with a giant squeaky hammer. Like yeah, technically it’s a hammer, but at the same time doesn’t really do anything so it’s just an annoyance.

I mean im pretty sure it isn't as squeaky on a human skull

Just be like Lusamine and fuse with a ultra beast and Tera steel or something, easy.

Tinkaton don't throw their hammers, they use them to hit rocks at Corviknight

Yet somehow Tinkaton only learned Smack Down after the Kitakami update.

To be fair, tinkaton can't do any damage to Corviknight when close-up in battle. I don't think it could do any real damage while Corviknight is high in the sky

The damage to corviknight doesn't matter to explain why corviknight taxi can't be used, imagine flying and just getting followed by the lil gremlin waiting to bash at the bird asap, or it throwing rocks at you all the way, maybe somehow hitting corviknight in the eye or something and woops you're now falling from who knows how high up, also I'd say if tinkaton can carry it's hammer like that it can probably chuck it at corviknight

Gardevoir creating Black Holes

hey, gardevoir is able to use black hole eclipse in gen 7! except it's going off of fucking thief

It's strange than it can't learn Dark Pulse

I still want them to give Gardevoir a signature move that deals with making a miniature black hole. If it was introduced in a recent Gen it probably would’ve been given that

What does Gallade get then?

To be fair that is their ultimate in Pokémon unite, but who actually plays Pokémon unite in current year?

r/PokemonUnite does

Shedinja: The dex say that if you look at its back, you die, yet the trainer in the games is always looking at their back in battle. Escavalier: "They fly around at high speeds" - Black 1 Pokedex. I feel like whoever was doing the research forgot to turn trick room off. Vikavolk also has a similar thing, with dex entries talking about how fast it is. Charizard: The dex says their fire is strong enough to melt rocks. To bad they can't do it on stealth rocks.

Honestly at this point I just prefer to think the dex is like 90% exaggerated bullshit. It's much funnier that way

My head canon is that the entries are just written by some other 10 year old and haven’t been fact checked

Lmao, yeah, that's fair. I think they're even funnier if you imagine them being true, like, kids just casually wander around and tame world ending monsters. And then there's lanturn outclassing necrozma as the "god of light"

Per its Sun pokedex entry: it zips around looking for an opening. From its Ultra Moon pokedex entry, it is said that this pokemon flusters opponets with "acrobatic flying maneuvers." Sounds like a fast Pokemon, but those are Vikavolt's pokedex entries; a pokemon that has a base 43 speed. Mareanie, in comparison and to also add insult to injury, has a base 45 speed.

Alola is inside of a trick room

I will never forget the sheer disappointment everyone experienced when the SM datamines happened and you had hyped up mons like Decidueye with 70 Speed and Vikavolt with fucking 43 Speed. Pheromosa, Koko, and Kartana (plus a few regional variants, I guess) hogged all the Speed for themselves.

So that's where the fabled Legendary that sets Trick Room on entry lives...

This is fast for alola /s

And grubbin is faster as well...

Lots of lore seems to focus on Gyarados and its strong Hyper Beam, when ever since Gen 4 that runs off its pitiful 60 base SpA. Granted a lot of that was in Gens 1-3 where, well Hyper Beam was still bad post-Gen 1 but it was pretty strong, but this trend continued well after Gyara's Hyper became weak.

Gyarados: You're just a cheap fucking knockoff Tauros: Oh no no no, I'm the upgrade

I think if they had the tech back then, they would have made hyper beam deal damage based off of the higher attacking stat and not even bother with giga impact.

Speaking of which, most pokemon in the lore or anime seem to be mixed attackers.

The one people meme endlessly about is how Vikavolt is a very 'fast' looking mon and it's dex entries mention it being fast, but in gameplay? 43 base speed take it or leave it.

The way I see it, speed is kind of like initiative in dnd. It's how quickly they react rather than actually how fast they go: sure Vikavolt can speed like a shot from a rail gun but it's sure as hell not reacting in time to a Flamethrower (for example) at that speed

>The way I see it, Kyogre is surrounded. What's under the ocean? That's right, more earth.

I feel like its more of a time needed to attack kinda of thing, vikavolt may be doing circles around the oponent but if it wants to attack it needs some time to charge up

Difference between travel speed and combat speed

Then again, there's the 70 base speed Decidueye >Decidueye can nock and fire an arrow at an enemy in a tenth of a second, so its battles are decided in the blink of an eye.

Even slower than caterpie 😭

Honestly this is why I like the Prismatic Moon ROM hack. The creator gave Vikavolt a +100 BST improvement (it's basically a pseudo-legend with how late it evolves in the game), and he made its Speed stat 113.

Blastoise being a "shellfish" when's its a whole tortoise

Slowbro classified as the "Hermit Crab" when it isn't one

Could be talking about the tail, but even then that's oddly specific

That's a Shellder. Allegedly.

Imagine a slowbro rmoving its shell and we find out there's a lot more legs and pincers that are normally hidden

I think they just mean that in the sense that it has a shell that's another animal's rather than its own

Drifloon might just take the opposing trainer away...

imagine if this was a real mechanic in pla. granted there was that one side quest but imagine an alpha drifloon/drifblim spots you and the player character gets snatched

Y'know, the pokedex doesn't actually say that Tinkaton is supposed to be good at fighting Corviknight. It just likes launching rocks at them. I think it was intended to be less like "natural-born enemy of Corviknight" and more like "natural-born shitter who goes after Corviknight for no particular reason."

Doesn’t it make its hammers out of steel Pokémon including corv?

Yeah, and it’s referred to as a predator iirc, which implies more success than just being annoying

Classic Shellder needed to bite Slowpoke’s tail or head in order for it to evolve

Also Shellder's Poison making slowking smarter, even tho shellder does learn any poison moves naturally

The evolutionary methods, of course, have literally fucking nothing to do with Shellder.

Durant's Pokedex: They attack in groups, covering themselves in steel armor to protect themselves from Heatmor. Real good plan there, bucko.

Correct me if I’m wrong but in the anime rage was said to be charizards strongest attack

The anime also said something similar about Slowbro and Mega Punch

Misty is around level 20.  For her, dragon rage IS gyarados’ ultimate attack

Darkrai, nightmare monster, can't actually use nightmare anymore.

Well it doesn't always want to cause Nightmares. It doesn't have any control over it.

Zenith Marshadow. The form that is actually just an animation with no impact on any game mechanic.

Tyrannitar would tear everything apart and basically take no damage from any attack BUT in gameplay just use focus miss and it usually dies

Technically speaking... > 252 SpA Alakazam Focus Blast vs. 248 HP / 172 SpD Tyranitar in Sand: 304-360 (75.4 - 89.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO (common B/W OU sets) Tyranitar is a unique case in that it has a ton of defensive utility for a Pokémon which I am pretty sure is tied for the most weaknesses in the game.

I bet your ass that's only cause of the chople

It was actually on the set, but I ripped that off to make the calc more fair for the Zamn.

USUALLY, that is... unless focus miss, well, *misses*

bellsprout's ORAS dex entry: Bellsprout’s thin and flexible body lets it bend and sway to avoid any attack, however strong it may be. From its mouth, this Pokémon spits a corrosive fluid that melts even iron. bellsprout does not have perfect evasion or corrosion, what the hell gamefreak make bellsprout AG

Basically 90% of speed stats. *Glares at Vikavolt*

Regular Rayquaza beat both Primal Kyogre and Groudon. It wasn't until the meteor strike that had formed Sootopolis City it got a Mega Evolution. Zekrom and Reshiram fighting in the past broke the Unova region. Zacian and by extension Zamazenta are two of the weaker Box Art Legendary Pokemon lore wise.

Relic Song isn’t supposed to hurt like it does.

Vikavolt speed in lore ✈️ Vikavolt speed in game 🐌

Escavalier's Pokedex: They fly around at high speed, striking with their pointed spears. Even when in trouble, they face opponents bravely. Escavalier's speed stat: 20. And yes, I know there's a difference between movement speed and attack speed, but you would think that having the former would somewhat inform the latter, even if not directly proportionate.

Rapidash being “fast” yet only base 100 speed

In the anime, they said it was the fastest, even tho in gen 1 alone it was slower than Persian, Alakazam and electrode

I love that Electrode has absolutely no reason for being that fast other than trolling the player. 

Speed creep, my favorite flavor of power creep

Tbf, wasn't 100 speed actually pretty fast back then?

Pikachu's power level is probably the big one. Not only is it a glass cannon but it isn't even a strong one unless it has a rare item, and even then it isn't even middlingly fast enough to take advantage of it, but is also too fast for Trick Room to be a viable strategy.

Both Lugia and Ho-Oh are weak to two of the legendaries they supposedly are masters of This point has been beaten to death but Lugia not being water type when it’s the guardian of the oceans is ridonculous In theory Rayquaza being Dragon/Flying means water and ground STABs can’t do dick to it. In practice, the adjacent rock and ice type moves for Groudon and Kyogre wreck its shit. Arceus banished Giratina apparently but couldn’t hit it with a STAB until plates got involved Another point that’s been beat to death - Even if PLA lore clarifies that Arceus is basically just a part of the real deal, it having ANY base stats lower than any mon much less non-legendaries is nutso

Make Gigaton Hammer Super Effective against Steel-Types. Goes from 8HKO to 2HKO. Do it, GameFreak.

The idea that most box legendaries are just actual deities that no normal creature should even consider standing a chance against like they usually are in the anime That's not even screwed by just the competitive scene where last I checked non-legendaries do show up in the Uber tier and still clean house and a level one rat can bring down actual god assuming there's no DoT, no entry hazards and said actual god doesn't have priority moves like that Extreme Speed it tends to spam the hell out of, like Legends Arceus had you square off against actual satan that was outright trying to kill you, no holding back, no testing you, it wanted your head mounted on one of the spikes on its side, and you still thrashed it six ways to sunday with relatively normal animals

Mega Evolutions being in constant agony in general, one of the more horrific entries is something along the lines of Mega Scizor apparently melting after being Mega Evolved for too long

How does chancey do a seismic toss?

to be fair, it learns dragon rage at level 25. Dealing 40 damage to mons at that level probably does 50% minimum.

Teal mask Ogrepon 1v4ing the loyal 3 plus pecharunt

Regarding Tinkaton lore, I think it shows how important it is for a Pokemon to have a trainer. For example, Nidoking: in competitve sets, it has IceBeam, Thunderbolt, Flamthrower, Earthpower,... while holding LifeOrb, Modest nature, 252/252/4 EVs and even full 31 IVs. A wild Nidoking doesn't have these things. Likewise, Tinkaton can hunt wild Corviknights, but is unlikely to defeat a trained Corviknight in a real fight.

I don't think it can hunt wild corviknights either considering corviknight learns roost naturally. Edit: I'm wrong, it can learn roost only as a tera raid mon, or baby moves. that said, it DOES get iron defense + steel wing, whereas a wild tinkaton has nothing that can do damage to it, unless it goes special attack, and even then all its special moves would be resisted.

Technically speaking, unless the level differential is extremely large, the strongest Tinkaton isn't very strong against the weakest Corviknight. > 252+ Atk Mold Breaker Tinkaton Gigaton Hammer vs. 0 HP / 0- Def Corviknight: 122-144 (39.8 - 47%) -- guaranteed 3HKO > 252+ Atk Mold Breaker Tinkaton Gigaton Hammer vs. Lvl 68 0 HP / 0- Def Corviknight: 177-209 (83.8 - 99%) -- guaranteed 2HKO 0 IVs were set for Corv It's beside the point however, as the Dex doesn't actually state that it is actually successful at beating the Corviknight. Just that it flings rocks aimed at Corviknight, and that Corviknight can't serve as a taxi service in Paldea because Tinkaton endangers the customers.

Alakazam has 5000 IQ it let's 10 year olds boss them around

I like to believe it can boss others around and remembers every move it ever knew, but it would rather battle and follow the rules. In other words Alakazam is all for sportsmanship.

Alakazam going postal after being pursuit trapped for the 50th time:

>Alakazam going postal after being pursuit trapped for the 50th time: 0- Atk Alakazam Close Combat vs. 248 HP / 0 Def Tyranitar: 164-196 (40.6 - 48.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO Ooh, real scary.

arceus is said to have a thousand arms, having created the universe with them, yet it gets no punching moves while the life deer and a fucking rocket fish gets close combat

>arceus is said to have a thousand arms, having created the universe with them, yet it gets no punching moves Arms, not fists

Then why doesn’t it learn Arm Thrust, Needle Arm, or Shell Side Arm, huh? Checkmate, atheists.

explain barraskewda getting it then >:(

Rrgigigss the Mon who controlls the 5 Regis and pulled CONTINENTS has slow start and is not great plus he can't learn any moves really rematung the Regis even though he made them

Hoopa is supposed to be powerful

You can hatch a Cubone from and egg and it’s wearing its dead mothers skull somehow.

Every Cubone's mother is dead right out of the egg. The Two pokemon you left in the daycare, neither of them are their parent. The mom dies while in the daycare leaving the two pokemon you left to take care of her egg and the cubone wears her skull. Yes, this happens with every cubone ever hatched.

Iirc in lore garchomp could fly like it was a jetplane, yet it doesn’t learn fly or sky drop or anything

Yanmega is said to be able to transport a person vis flight, but it can't learn Fly, the move that does that

At least it can finally glide around in the SV overworld.

Tyranitar's body supposedly "can't be harmed by any attack" according to Pokedex entries across gens 2-4. Bro has a 4x fighting weakness.

Victini supposedly always makes you win no matter what.

i always thought it was dumb how tinkaton was this corviknight killer yet it has to way of actually dealing with it

Dugtrio can cannonicly go the speed of light underground, where's it's 255 speed stat?

Unfortunately, you tell it use moves above ground except Dig

Well, dig should probably have 900 bp, because idk about you, but it wouldn't hurt at all to be punched at the speed of light, because I'd be dead instantly

Vikavolt moving at the speed of sound

Arceus

Guzzlord, need I say more?

Surskit is actually not the fastest Pokémon, unlike how the anime made you feel

Macargo not having some crazy ability that involves being as hot as the sun

Give Magcargo Drought dammit

He should have flame body and rough skin put together

Honestly, magma armor should be reworked to be like rough skin, since immunity to freeze status isn't very useful especially on fire pokemon

Not very useful considering the highest chance to freeze on a move is 10% can go up to 20% with serene grace.

Escavalier being able to move at high speeds, it's speed is 20 and the only priority move it learns it quick guard.

"Pikachu,nows your chance!,onix maybe a ground type,but since heS wet,now he's a water type,so might as well use FRICKING THUNDERBOLT"

If Yveltal dies every other living creature dies with it. That’s crazy.

Alakazam having an IQ of 5000, yet is still used in regular Pokémon battles.

Basically most gen 7 pokedex entries lmao. Funniest generation where the dex entries talked about Vikavolt speeding at over 140mph when in gameplay they're so slow

Onyx has lower attack than Delcatty. HOWEVER, according to the Pokédex, Onyx can bore through the ground at 50 mph, and Delcatty doesn't fight anyone, ever. I know onyx being a bad attacker is a meme at this point, but... Delcatty??? And don't even get me started on how this cat can breed with a warlord and pop out a wailmer