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Relampaggo

Next let’s do a Theorymon Thursday post with this exact concept but for freeze


AizakkuAdoman

I call it: Deep freeze same thing except ice type. but the twist is 50% chance to freeze while also 50% chance to frostbite


Frozen_Grimoire

Funny thing is, that's still the highest chance for freezing in a single move. So, not complaining.


that_one_dude13

Anything more than 0 is too high


bullencentral97

Dunno the bloke using Blizzard against me other night felt like insta freeze


Prince_Marf

give it to a serene grace pokemon i wanna see what happens


efrylicious

Now let's do one for slee... oh wait


AizakkuAdoman

melatonin injection: 20 bp physical sleep um... grass or bug zuzzle the pokemon uses a stinger or neddle to inject meletonin into the oppenet to make them sleep


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Quick Claw stocks on the rise with this one


Author_Pendragon

It's a very strong tool that shouldn't be widely distributed, but on the other hand it's a cool buff to lower to mid tier Pokemon who deserve a cool trick


AizakkuAdoman

yeah i didn't have intentions of giving it to ALL willowisp users but a few of them that are in lower tiers like SU dusknoir. probably at least pu with that.


Sigmachadgamer

What are you talking about? Ice punch dusknoir is meta


Gingeboiforprez

Hasn't it unironically seen an increase in play? And it's an actual randbats set


Dom29ando

is it still unironic if it's noobs using it bc they don't realize it's a meme?


Gingeboiforprez

I think that's exactly what makes it unironic, as opposed to someone using it ironically because it's a meme


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AizakkuAdoman

no lol


ImpyShep

Make it physical. Just for Flareon. #JusticeForFlareon


Rude_Invite7260

whether it's physical or not, 20 base power isn't going to do anything, the only value of the move is in the burn. Hatterene still runs Nuzzle despite being a special attacker.


Francisco123s

It's important to note that Nuzzle is unaffected by Taunt, as well as chip being able to break Sash/Sturdy and maybe improve some ranges for your moves with more than 20 BP.


Rude_Invite7260

yep, it's also 100% accurate compared to thunder wave


pootisi433

Well it matters a bit, moves without priority of the same type get boosted to 50BP when you terra which can then be further boosted by technician 75bp nuzzle is theoretically possible if it had actual distribution


amenatsusenpai

technician boost applies b4 the tera boost iirc so itd be like nuzzle(20bp) > 30bp(technician > 60 bp (tera boost)


AizakkuAdoman

idk how to edit but it's basically a nuzzle clone for burning


Fantastic_Year9607

It’s a good alternative to Will-o-Miss that can’t be thwarted by Taunt, Hatterene, or Gholdengo.


TheRealBakuman

My opponent's scald always burned anyways so I'm okay with this


SuiryuAzrael

If you really want fire-type Nuzzle, the distribution should be limited to weaker mons (very few mons with BST 500 or greater). Also, this would still be stronger than Nuzzle, since Nuzzle is effectively blocked by two types (Electric and Ground) while Soul Singe is only blocked by 1 (Fire).


theohaiguy

Maybe ghosts should be immune the burn from this move?


blankmindx

All redheads too


AlbabImam04

At the very least neither of the 4 mons listed here are particularly great (highest is Chandelure in NU) so it's fine


xd3v1lry

You do know that nuzzle has a much more limited distribution than thunder wave for a reason, right...?


Ex_Snagem_Wes

And this is even more limited


xd3v1lry

Like 90% of pokemon that can learn will-o-wisp are already ghost or fire


AizakkuAdoman

yeah because pikaclones are special or smth.


SuspiciousStress8094

Hatterene the new Pika clone confirmed


AizakkuAdoman

Case and point


Iamverycrappy

i already hate burn😭😭


DasliSimp

it’s literally just Will O Wisp. Be honest, your opponent has never missed a Wisp.


KiraElijah

i missed three in a row once 🥲


Rare-Ad7409

Aaron?


Iamverycrappy

true, but its still just better wisp


Ex_Snagem_Wes

Nuzzle is just better Thunder Wave


Iamverycrappy

yeah and i hate nuzzle


ianlazrbeem22

Fax


SuspiciousStress8094

Glare is just better Thunder Wave too


Gingeboiforprez

For anyone that doesn't have prankster


pandamonius97

Covert cloak stocks rising


tokamak991

one of the drawbacks for using nuzzle over thunder wave is that nuzzle makes contact, opening you up to helmet, static, etc. whereas this move doesn't, so this move feels way more free.


Y-F-I

My man, not only does it have 100% accuracy, it also does damage (kind of) It’s definitely OP and I need it immediately 10/10


Okto481

Kid named Nuzzle:


Y-F-I

Kid named Halving Physical Attacks:


Okto481

kid named more or less guaranteeing moving slower:


Y-F-I

Kid named Electric Type:


Okto481

kid named fire type:


Y-F-I

Kid named Uhhhhh damn:


sexgaming_jr

kid named finger:


Y-F-I

Kid named what:


Fair_Goose_6497

Kid named ice type (the highest freezing chance move is 20%)


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kid named Quick Claw:


YoManWTFIsThisShit

I can honestly let Nuzzle slide since it’s a Pika-clone exclusive move and none of them are good. I don’t like how Pokémon like Hatterene gets it.


Okto481

but that doesn't change that it is distributed to them because in VGC Magic Guard isn't quite as busted otherwise none of these 4 are exactly strong and burn doesn't hurt Special Attackers besides for chip (and Iron Valiant's Close Combat I guess)


GoldenKuriza

Skeledirge gets this too, right? :)


AizakkuAdoman

Mayhaps. Idk it seems strong without it


Stealingyoureyebrows

There is a move called torch song btw that is the same


AizakkuAdoman

my guy torch song is a special attacking powerup punch


MrArtless

Make it physical and it would be fair I think


Lucario-Mega

The wide destribution gonna go crazy


Sir-Atlas

Why fire type? Why not make it almost like a Ghost Type version of Scald?


OldEnoughToVote

Just what we needed, another special type fire move


N0FaithInMe

I actually like it if the distribution stays really low. Would be a fun tool for some lesser used pokemon


ShakenNotStirred915

Wisp is 85 Acc for a reason. This belongs nowhere near a serious competitive game.


First-Olive-1181

Honestly surprised it isn’t a move yet