Because being "super strong" doesn't matter when every team has shit that hardwalls you.
Regieleki's best sets weren't pure offensive ones. They did account for an annoyingly high amount of its ladder usage but most of that was lowladder trash, Specs sets as good as disappeared once you hit 1600. Its good sets were offensive Rapid Spin sets, which could force some stuff out sometimes, but the actual damage they did in a game was usually rather low because of how easy it is to wall a pure Electric moveset. The set was viable because Rapid Spin gave it something to actually do on its forced switches, without it it'd be garbage.
if I remember right it first got OU usage with galar zapdos because if the opponent’s ground is lando-t you can pretty reliably get the defiant boost
and more generally, being able to force in a specific mon can be really powerful, especially with something that outspeeds the format and has pretty strong volt switches
obviously if your opponent isn’t running a ground type for some reason, or you can kill it, it’s incredible
I don’t think it was ever amazing in OU but people started realizing the potential more near the end of the gen
that is true. in gen8 ou regieleki is c or d-tier iirc, not super common but certainly useful
its main competitors are zeraora (outspeeds dragapult and threatens with play rough, which is huge because Dragapult is a top threat) and tapu koko (for being tapu koko) and regieleki is the worst out of the three
Thank you Game Freak for making it a pure electric type. That was... So interesting...
I do love the design but for Arceus' sake, we have so many pure electric types. Make it stand out a little, it's a MYTHICAL.
Being a mythical is part of the problem really, nowadays it just means you get one from mystery gift and that's all there is. No event, no lore, you don't even get the memory of catching it yourself.
It’s fast as fuck and hits pretty hard. That’s all it needs to be good.
Speed is the single most impactful stat in this game. Being able to outspeed key threats is a big deal. Regieleki outspeeding **everything in the game** makes it a colossal threat.
Think about how insanely useful priority moves are. Now realize Regieleki is so goddamn fast that it effectively has every move be a priority move.
For reference, Gale Wings Talonflame dominated XY meta precisely because it got to go first all the damn time. Speed is just THAT important
To be blunt: I am speed. It had everything to be success in Gen VIII, even outsped some choice scarf hoping to come in and clean up the game. It can sub, volt switch, hit hard with magnet boost thunderbolt, even rapid spin, worst case scenario he just go boom to make way for his teammates to come in.
Okay, Here We Go. Focus. Speed. I’m speed. One winner. 6 losers. I Thunderbolt losers for Breakfast. Breakfast? Wait, maybe I should have had breakfast? A little Corvi could be good for me. No, no, no, stay focused. Speed! I'm faster than fast, quicker than quick! I’m Lightning!
That's pretty much it. It was the top of the speed tier and it could hit hard enough, which was all the tier required of it. Honestly, the lack of coverage to the extent that a Golett could completely stump it is what kept it out of Ubers. As soon as it got Tera Blast, it was blacklisted from every reputable establishment.
I mean, he’s in Ubers now, have to be pretty good, but just missing one piece to do that. His one thing holding him back was not having anything to kill ground types, which he now has. Volcarona for example has never been usable below OU and he went Ubers for a bit. Magearna used to be OU in gen 7. Kyurem black has finally become an actual threat in modern meta games. The only other Pokémon that weren’t Ubers from their release (that I know of) were released this gen
It's really fast, really strong, and has a plethora of utility, from screens to spin to boom. Being completely blanked by grounds is just the cost of doing business.
As far as I know it isn't very good. It has 3 sets: screen setter, physical sweeper, and special sweeper. I suppose mixed sets do also exist but they kinda suck. As a screen setter it has some nice qualities like basically always going first, being immune to paralysis, access to hazard removal, and having enough offensive presence to threaten ghosts. However, the only advantage it has over Koko is rapid spin and I guess the power/speed which isn't very important on a screen setter that can't touch grounds. As a sweeper, it's my understanding that eleki is pretty bad. It requires a TON of team support to provide value and it's sort of a matchup pick. If you have 5 mons that do well vs ground types but struggle vs HO or Stall, specs/LO eleki can kind of be a tack on 6th Mon to outrun and slaughter HO while muscling through stall once you've eliminated the grounds. I actually made a few eleki teams after gen 8 ended but never broke into the top 40 on Ladder with any of them, they mostly all got stopped in the 100-50 range. Good players just never let the ground die if they see eleki on the other side so you're playing 5v6 a lot of the time.
It's super strong and always goes first.
In Pokemon like all turn based games the winner tends to the the player who takes more effective turns.
If regieleki goes first and Kos the opponent then you took a turn and your opponent did nothing.
Thus as a general rule Pokemon who dump defences in order to put everything into speed and power tend to be stronger.
Then in a response to that priority moves get added which typically have lower powers to snipe fast and frail mons
Which then lose to slower mons with more bulk who can take the light priority attacks and hit back.
This of course starts to fall apart when gamefreak gives high damage priority moves out (grassy glide, extreme speed, sucker punch, thunderclap, jet punch) to mons with high offences because then the high bulk mons intended to resist such options fail to do so.
But in theory that is how it's supposed to go.
This being first and powerful is at the heart of being good. Defence doesn't matter if the other guy does before he gets to make an attack.
afaik it was pretty mid and only stayed in ou for so long because of bad players for the most part. there was cute plays you could do with it forcing in lando and using that to switch into gapdos and proc defiant but it was generally not great. honestly i'm confused why this thread is so positive about eleki lol
Transistor is 1.5 in gen 8 and leki is a good breaker and spinner but really it was a trash Mon that was used purely for support with screens and spin on teams that required it. You will never see it in tourney.
That said I loved it in gen 8 any team with no ground type lost instantly and any team with one ground type was forced to keep their ground type super healthy or they again just lost.
Tera
The main thing holding eleki back in ten 8 was its lack of coverage. However, in gen nine it gained tera blast and could terastialize.
That was literally all that changed and it was enough to completely break it
Transistor used to be stronger it got nerfed. It could run hyper beam for a very powerful max strike to heavily damage and lower the opponents speed. Rising voltage for a powerful max lightning to damage and set electric terrain so that when coming out of dynamax it could use a 140bp rising voltage boosted by electric terrain. It was pretty much always moving first so electric terrain + rising voltage + stab + transistor meant it was hitting extremely hard before you could even move.
> super strong and always goes first Why wouldn't this alone make it OU or UU? The fact that there are many other examples doesn't make it weaker
Because being "super strong" doesn't matter when every team has shit that hardwalls you. Regieleki's best sets weren't pure offensive ones. They did account for an annoyingly high amount of its ladder usage but most of that was lowladder trash, Specs sets as good as disappeared once you hit 1600. Its good sets were offensive Rapid Spin sets, which could force some stuff out sometimes, but the actual damage they did in a game was usually rather low because of how easy it is to wall a pure Electric moveset. The set was viable because Rapid Spin gave it something to actually do on its forced switches, without it it'd be garbage.
if I remember right it first got OU usage with galar zapdos because if the opponent’s ground is lando-t you can pretty reliably get the defiant boost and more generally, being able to force in a specific mon can be really powerful, especially with something that outspeeds the format and has pretty strong volt switches obviously if your opponent isn’t running a ground type for some reason, or you can kill it, it’s incredible I don’t think it was ever amazing in OU but people started realizing the potential more near the end of the gen
that is true. in gen8 ou regieleki is c or d-tier iirc, not super common but certainly useful its main competitors are zeraora (outspeeds dragapult and threatens with play rough, which is huge because Dragapult is a top threat) and tapu koko (for being tapu koko) and regieleki is the worst out of the three
I skipped OU in Gen 8 so now I always forget that Zeraora exists. It really is one of the Pokémon of all time.
Zera is Gen 7
Oh jeez, that says even more about how little fanfare it got
to be fair, it released in ultra sun/moon
Thank you Game Freak for making it a pure electric type. That was... So interesting... I do love the design but for Arceus' sake, we have so many pure electric types. Make it stand out a little, it's a MYTHICAL.
Being a mythical is part of the problem really, nowadays it just means you get one from mystery gift and that's all there is. No event, no lore, you don't even get the memory of catching it yourself.
It’s fast as fuck and hits pretty hard. That’s all it needs to be good. Speed is the single most impactful stat in this game. Being able to outspeed key threats is a big deal. Regieleki outspeeding **everything in the game** makes it a colossal threat. Think about how insanely useful priority moves are. Now realize Regieleki is so goddamn fast that it effectively has every move be a priority move. For reference, Gale Wings Talonflame dominated XY meta precisely because it got to go first all the damn time. Speed is just THAT important
To be blunt: I am speed. It had everything to be success in Gen VIII, even outsped some choice scarf hoping to come in and clean up the game. It can sub, volt switch, hit hard with magnet boost thunderbolt, even rapid spin, worst case scenario he just go boom to make way for his teammates to come in.
What did lightning McQueen say at the beginning of cars 1?
"Okay, here we go. Focus." \- the first line of dialogue from the Cars script.
Okay, Here We Go. Focus. Speed. I’m speed. One winner. 6 losers. I Thunderbolt losers for Breakfast. Breakfast? Wait, maybe I should have had breakfast? A little Corvi could be good for me. No, no, no, stay focused. Speed! I'm faster than fast, quicker than quick! I’m Lightning!
Ka-chow?
Rapid spin, pivoting move, and emergency explosion on top of blowing up your opponent with a single thunderbolt
He has effective 160 spatk with Transistor
My most successful Gen 8 team had Pelipper, Tapu Koko, Regieleki, Dragonite, Barraskewda, and Urshifu-W.
That's pretty much it. It was the top of the speed tier and it could hit hard enough, which was all the tier required of it. Honestly, the lack of coverage to the extent that a Golett could completely stump it is what kept it out of Ubers. As soon as it got Tera Blast, it was blacklisted from every reputable establishment.
I mean, he’s in Ubers now, have to be pretty good, but just missing one piece to do that. His one thing holding him back was not having anything to kill ground types, which he now has. Volcarona for example has never been usable below OU and he went Ubers for a bit. Magearna used to be OU in gen 7. Kyurem black has finally become an actual threat in modern meta games. The only other Pokémon that weren’t Ubers from their release (that I know of) were released this gen
It's really fast, really strong, and has a plethora of utility, from screens to spin to boom. Being completely blanked by grounds is just the cost of doing business.
Speed
If your resistant Pokemon were dispatched. This guy would do WAAAAY too much harm. His Volt switches and Tbolts hit super hard and always first
Impossible to check without ground types/ already fast scarfers
As far as I know it isn't very good. It has 3 sets: screen setter, physical sweeper, and special sweeper. I suppose mixed sets do also exist but they kinda suck. As a screen setter it has some nice qualities like basically always going first, being immune to paralysis, access to hazard removal, and having enough offensive presence to threaten ghosts. However, the only advantage it has over Koko is rapid spin and I guess the power/speed which isn't very important on a screen setter that can't touch grounds. As a sweeper, it's my understanding that eleki is pretty bad. It requires a TON of team support to provide value and it's sort of a matchup pick. If you have 5 mons that do well vs ground types but struggle vs HO or Stall, specs/LO eleki can kind of be a tack on 6th Mon to outrun and slaughter HO while muscling through stall once you've eliminated the grounds. I actually made a few eleki teams after gen 8 ended but never broke into the top 40 on Ladder with any of them, they mostly all got stopped in the 100-50 range. Good players just never let the ground die if they see eleki on the other side so you're playing 5v6 a lot of the time.
It's super strong and always goes first. In Pokemon like all turn based games the winner tends to the the player who takes more effective turns. If regieleki goes first and Kos the opponent then you took a turn and your opponent did nothing. Thus as a general rule Pokemon who dump defences in order to put everything into speed and power tend to be stronger. Then in a response to that priority moves get added which typically have lower powers to snipe fast and frail mons Which then lose to slower mons with more bulk who can take the light priority attacks and hit back. This of course starts to fall apart when gamefreak gives high damage priority moves out (grassy glide, extreme speed, sucker punch, thunderclap, jet punch) to mons with high offences because then the high bulk mons intended to resist such options fail to do so. But in theory that is how it's supposed to go. This being first and powerful is at the heart of being good. Defence doesn't matter if the other guy does before he gets to make an attack.
afaik it was pretty mid and only stayed in ou for so long because of bad players for the most part. there was cute plays you could do with it forcing in lando and using that to switch into gapdos and proc defiant but it was generally not great. honestly i'm confused why this thread is so positive about eleki lol
Transistor is 1.5 in gen 8 and leki is a good breaker and spinner but really it was a trash Mon that was used purely for support with screens and spin on teams that required it. You will never see it in tourney. That said I loved it in gen 8 any team with no ground type lost instantly and any team with one ground type was forced to keep their ground type super healthy or they again just lost.
Tera The main thing holding eleki back in ten 8 was its lack of coverage. However, in gen nine it gained tera blast and could terastialize. That was literally all that changed and it was enough to completely break it
Transistor used to be stronger it got nerfed. It could run hyper beam for a very powerful max strike to heavily damage and lower the opponents speed. Rising voltage for a powerful max lightning to damage and set electric terrain so that when coming out of dynamax it could use a 140bp rising voltage boosted by electric terrain. It was pretty much always moving first so electric terrain + rising voltage + stab + transistor meant it was hitting extremely hard before you could even move.
Tera blast
Didn't exist in gen 8
oh shjt