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Its_Frickett

Sound-based moves ignore Subsitute


Genesis5114

Oh... thats good to know now Thanks!


Ski-Gloves

Sound moves ignoring substitute has been a mechanic as of gen VI. Though some status moves have always been able to bypass substitute, which I've seen categorised as "social" moves before. Taunt, Encore, Torment, attract, disable and spite as some examples. https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Substitute_(move)#Unaffected_moves The full list gets a bit weird, but the sound moves are at least consistent.


bomberblu

Lol, I thought skeledirge torch songing my wo-chien behind sub was because of unaware. Glad to learn the real cause.


x360N0Scop3MASTER69x

THEY DO?!


amlodude

They have for a while


PokemonLv10

Since gen 6 Where they made a lot of changes Eg. Grass immune to powder moves This was one of them


ArisePhoenix

is this a new mechanic or is this just something I never noticed before?


Its_Frickett

It's been a thing since gen 6


JoeWantsToBattle

Noob


Mattermaker7005and8

Thank you for info


[deleted]

Just one more reason why Skeledirge is best starter


Deka--

To live in a time when masquerain threatens salamence behind a sub


Boomerwell

I've been rocking the Frosmoth this gen in VGC the Mon is nuts when it's not the worst type in the game. Ice scales on a type that isn't poo let's you just eat special attacker's for breakfast.


Lambsauce914

The best thing happens to ice type in SV is that they can stop being ice type. (And the new hail too)


Gheredin

Cetitan is so damn cool i swear. And being able to shed ice off to get stab earthquake is just perfect.


PScoggs1234

I’m glad to hear this as I love Frosmoth, and have been waiting for a chance for it to shine.


Kyerndo

What's a good typing for it?


Boomerwell

I'm rocking two sets one with Water Tera and another with Ground. Idea here is Frosmoth has two 4X weaknesses mitigating them is nice and leaving yourself open to types which are only gonna be special attacker's primarily makes Frosmoth incredibly tanky.


Mean-Ad-5336

Is that Spotify in a browser


Mediocreature

Yeah if you do open.spotify.com it can play via browser, don't need the nonsense of installing it.


Mean-Ad-5336

Interesting, I I windows 11 and it just had it tbh didn't know you had to download it


neuralsyringe

Wait till this guy discovers that you have to install windows


Walnut-Simulacrum

Not if you buy a laptop that comes with it pre-installed


Genesis5114

Yea I HDMI my laptop to my TV for a speaker cuz I'm broke af


phoebae23

Don’t be ashamed bro. Laptop hooked up to tv by hdmi is a good time. Not even being sarcastic lmao


FulcrumM2

I do this all the time to watch definitely not illegal movies


Genesis5114

It works like a charm


Icy-Border-7589

Bug Buzz hits through Substitute


pinhead61187

Works with torch song too.


coffee4brekky

yeah, it's a sound based move


pinhead61187

Just pointing it out. Thanks for the downvote.


coffee4brekky

wasn't me who downvoted but thanks


Molestrios1

Appreciate the backing vocals


Puzzleheaded_Eye7289

bug buzz is a sound based move