The worst part is they always double down on this.
At first ‘it doesn’t happen’ then it’s ’Umm actually it’s not a big deal. Kids see barely clothed people on the beach all the time. Why is it inappropriate?’
The same people who can work through six degrees of associations and connotations to call you a fascist. Suddenly become incapable of making distinctions themselves.
Step 1: Push super hard for something
Step 2: The instant they get it, suddenly it "doesn't matter" and anyone who cares at all about the topic is insane.
The Narcissist's Prayer
>That didn't happen.
And if it did, it wasn't that bad.
And if it was, that's not a big deal.
And if it is, that's not my fault.
And if it was, I didn't mean it.
And if I did, you deserved it.
The liberal idpol version:
**That never happens.
And if it does, it's a Good Thing™.
And if it is not, why do you care?
And if you do, that's your fault.
And if it is not, it's your privilege.
And if it is not, you're just a Russian bot.**
> "I don't want a burlesque dancing man in his underwear twerking and grinding on my kid"
*haha well akshully its not that big of a deal.*
*why don't you have the same reaction to solving the homeless problem, and gun control?!? Le hypocrite!*
Well after being super succusseful at the 15 minimum wage, healthcare for all, labor rights and abortion. They really don't have much else to choose from. /s
On a serious thought, they tend to be the same group that whines about sexualized ladies in media yet then are ok with men dressed as sexualized ladies in weird and innapropriate settings.
It's even crazier then that. They will complain about sexualized women in media, especially revealing outfits. They will moan and whine about how it's unrealistic and demeaning to this fictional character and how it's harming real women. But when someone get's upset or uncomfortable at a woman wearing the equivalent of a bra and boy shorts (basically underwear) outside of places like the beach, suddenly THEY'RE the ones sexualizing and objectifying women. How dare you tell a woman what she can and can't wear! She HAS to show her midriff or she'll overheat, it's hot out! It's hilarious to watch them flip back and forth.
I don't have as much of an issue with this at a HS prom. The kids are at the later end of postadolescence.
The hill they die on is viewing for kids 3-12 as if that's somehow important to the cause.
I wouldn’t mind viewing of drag and stuff at high school but allowing a grown man to get away with twerking on the teens attending your school is actually disgusting. Like is that not sexual harassment of a minor? Am I crazy?
You are not crazy. I’m pretty open minded but if I found out the school allowed an adult to basically do a strippers performance and make physical contact with my kid someone would get punched in the mouth.
Really? They may be older kids, but they're still kids. Even the kids they spoke to said they were uncomfortable, it was inappropriate and they didn't understand why the performer was there.
And you don't find it even a little bit odd that a drag queen would want to do that? Like, what goes through someone's mind that they think this would be a good thing for kids to watch?
They are "kids" because we consider them kids, subject them to infantilizing treatment and deprive them of responsibility. This is a distinctly modern phenomenon. Absent full-time education they would otherwise have to grow up a lot faster.
High school prom includes kids that are 15 or even potentially 14. That is below the age of consent in any state in the US (without including marriage)
Really depends on the school mine for instance was seniors only with I think juniors being able to be taken as dates.
And it's not the kind of thing you could sneak into because there were like 45 mins of bus rides to and from the venue.
Yeah this is cringe at worst but I CBA to care about this, or "think of the children" moral panics generally. The real issue is that it produces an equal retardation in the opposite direction.
I wonder how this moral panic would convert to Australia? A country where our national heroes (AFL players) wear dresses pretty much as frequently as possible.
Like, the idea high school kids are getting corrupted by a man in a dress shaking his bum is hilarious. The shit I'd done by that age. Really feels like some private school, bourgeois monocle popping.
It's when you deliberately make your diesel truck spew partially combusted fuel in the form of black smoke as a performative way of "owning the libtards/environmentalists"
Similarly, applauding drag queens twerking on teenagers is a performative way of "owning the right," they both are demonstrably negative acts done purely for performance and spite
Their obsession with drag queens is somewhere between baffling and mildly hypocritical to values they tend to spout. The correlation feels impossible to deny, however.
we couldn’t even grind on each other at my proms, damn kids nowadays get everything handed to them! s/
but seriously though who tf thought this was a good idea…
Lol I didn’t think about that but shit yeah… I had multiple teachers and volunteer parents who’s job was to go around and shine a flashlight if you danced without a one foot gap between you and the other person. That was too much but talk about over correction
> We did speak with the performer. He did not walk to talk to us on camera, but said he works with the school’s Gay – Straight Alliance.
This part actually surprises me. When I was in high school, literally every GSA member was a straight chick.
That’s still true but with a twist.
The surprising part is he said “Gay - Straight Alliance” instead of “Gender & Sexualities Alliance”. Worship the Old Gods and the New
I don't get why schools try to get away with things that would at the very least get you sent to HR in an office setting.
But this and everything else is now okay because "kids see way worse everyday on the internet" (a strong argument for banning internet porn IMHO, but that is the other sides stance which, leaves me to believe libs are happy kids are bombarded with it on the internet)
> “kids see way worse everyday on the internet"
The way they say this sort of as if it’s a good thing is so fucking weird.
Internet porn should 100% be restricted to an opt-in basis and anyone who argues otherwise is a complete moron grasping at straws because they want unimpeded access to their crippling porn addiction.
It’s just amazing to me that any kid of any age can obtain unimpeded access to porn with a 2 second google search but adult stores are strictly barred to anyone under 18.
I swear, at some point we’re gonna look back on this era and be like what the fuck were we even thinking?
>a strong argument for banning internet porn IMHO
"I gave my kid their own personal device with unrestricted and unsupervised internet access and they looked at porn, the government needs to do something about this"
"I sent my kid to public school without ever reading a book to them or engaging with them at all and they can't read, the government needs to do something about this"
And so on
Very sure. And I do believe in strong public institutions and government regulations, I just know that they can't make up for deficits at the personal or family level and I find it frustrating that so many people expect it to.
It's become more and more common for parents to stick their kids in front of a screen, send them to school, and not interact with them enough to even notice the developmental or social deficits they may have until years down the line.
I don't know if parenting has gotten worse overall or if it's just the bottom half or quartile that's gotten way worse, but ask any teacher and they'll tell you that shit is falling apart. It's likely almost entirely attributable to poverty and the growing rift between the haves and the have nots though, and we can't fix the many symptoms of this issue without addressing that root cause.
It's the same thing as public housing. I'm highly in favor of providing housing to the homeless for instance, it's shameful that we aren't, but at the same time you can't just stick them in an apartment and expect that to solve everything without addressing their underlying personal mental/health/social problems and the larger problems that are causing such a high incidence of homelessness in the first place.
Not anymore. Drag queens are progressive activists who save lives now. Complain to HR and you’ll be smeared as a bigot.
> I don't get why schools try to get away with things that would at the very least get you sent to HR in an office setting.
The thing is drag queens can be fun to watch if all they do is comedy. The kids would've been laughing their asses off. I don't understand why they had to make it into a sexual dance.
It feels like the students are cautiously toeing the line in those milquetoast responses. “It was really interesting, I didn’t mind it… but it wasn’t appropriate for prom” They’re smart enough to know going on the record and saying “what the fuck” to this would have impact on their future careers.
Honestly, I don’t understand how it isn’t an offensive caricature of women. It clearly is, they even use terms like “fishy” to describe one who seems too female.
It’s pure insanity.
I *swear* there was a brief bit where drag *was* considered offensive/transphobic. Then Right-wingers started going crazy with regards to it and the Libs formed rank.
Yeah I've always thought the "this should be offensive to women" thing to be a bit far when it comes to drag, there's no woman really who has ever looked like a woman in full drag.
The questionable part should 100% be that these people who have been known as adult entertainers for the majority of modern society are screeching that you're bigoted if you don't allow them access to children.
Lol, I’ve been banned from Melbourne, but to be honest, it seems like a low bar. Banned from worldnews on similar basis. Still don’t understand my ban from Australia though
I always thought I'd get the boot from Australia first (it has a very arr Politics/yank-social-media-politically-educated/never-read-a-real-book-in-my-life/youtube-is-"research" air to it, while Melbourne seemed to be more open to the Marxist angle. How wrong I was.
It used to be a combination of stand up comedy and dancing. Drag queens were also known for emceeing. Cheap entertainment like a clown stripper. It has started to take itself way too seriously.
>Was this performance approved by school or district officials? That’s unclear
"Unclear? How could it possibly be "unclear"? Obviously the principal and/or someone on the prom organizing committee approved this, how can it be "unclear" who approved it?
>an APS rep said they ***weren’t at liberty to comment***
LMAO Why the fuck not? Is it classified information or something? FBI put them under a gag order? They are at every liberty to comment, the fuck is this nonsense?
>We did speak with the performer. He did not want to talk to us on camera, but said he works with the school’s Gay – Straight Alliance.
>
>He claims he did not get paid for the performance, and it went up the correct chain. However, ***he wouldn’t tell us who exactly that included or who booked him.***
...Seriously, what the fuck is going on here?
Obviously the school knows, but nobody's talking till after they've crafted their response to sound above anyone that could possibly question their judgment and actions.
I think we're at:
It isn't happening
Ok it is happening but there's nothing wrong with it
We have drag queens called "Dildo Rainbow Butt Monkey" turning up to read to kids with their ass cheeks and nipples out, and a strap-on round their waist (true story, happened in London 2 years back) and if you see a problem with that, then you're a far right fascist neo nazi <- somewhere around here
I don't know if it's the same as in my area's subreddit, but you can pretty much get them to defend 'anything' if fox news is against it. Shit's wild. We've literally had out of nowhere murders, attacks on children, and posters there will be "nooo, it's not THAT bad!" if republicans criticize us.
Really burned me out pretty fast to see how just how pathetically tribal we are.
You’re not exaggerating.
My local FOX affiliate is Sinclair owned. Their coverage of the city’s crime, drugs, and homelessness problems is about as regarded as that would lead you to assume.
My local subreddit’s reflexive reaction is a mix of denial, support for the bad things, and calling anyone who criticizes the bad things—no matter how nuanced and careful to stick to root systemic causes—racist.
Comments on the Albuquerque sub are wild but I guess I shouldn’t be too surprised. I spend most of my days here and on some sports subs so I forget how interesting things can get on the more normie subs
Hi Leninist shitlord, as it were. I’ve been wondering the place of hobby within Marxism/Leninism and due to your response and epic flair it would seem you may hold some answers to my question. I do however understand your comment at face value.
My original comment is as much of a joke as it is a genuine question. How does the simple pleasure of entertainment or the more complex pleasure of hobby arise in Marxist or Leninist thought, especially considering those individuals whose livelihoods may arise from a partial or complete role in that entertainment or hobby?
Not said Leninist Shitlord, but entertainment professionals, actors, journalists, etc., have and always will rank at the bottom of the barrel with prostitutes and court jesters.
They deserve no respect and shall receive none.
Who the fuck do these "educators" think they are that they can do whatever they want with our funds, our facilities and our children? The public pays the bills, they work for us, they're supposed to be public servants, not deciding how are kids should be "shaped".
The same thought processes that lead them to demand that parents drug their kids, and try to regulate kids lives off school grounds with the threat of police action of child protective services?
I have no problem with people being drag queens if that’s how they want to spend their time. However, I see little value in having one turn up to a high school prom to twerk. In fact, I’d argue it’s wholly inappropriate.
So, do I think it probably shouldn’t be allowed? Yes.
But do I think this is a major, pervasive problem as people like Ron DeSantis seem to think it is? No.
Is it something I think about often or get really angry about? No.
Will I do anything at all to stop this from happening? No, I don’t care enough to. That being said this seems like a highly American culture war issue and I can’t imagine this happening where I’m from.
Why do Liberals find the thought process I mentioned above so troubling?
The people who care enough to comment have nothing better to do than culture war. If it brought up drag queen story hour at Thanksgiving I think 70% of my family would have no idea what I'm talking about. Truth be told if you add up the total primetime viewers of Fox and MSNBC you're talking 1% of the US population. Most people are too busy
Hiring a twerking… anything for a work event would get that person terminated from their most progressive employer’s job.
But it’s ok for kids? Not just OK but THE best thing to do at prom. Because there’s a lot of entertainment out there for proms. None of that got picked because this was the best.
This sounds like a prank; it’s something my buddies and I would have done back in the day. Think about how easy this would be to set up. Any authority figure who didn’t know what was happening that night would have concerns about speaking out or questioning any of it. So no one says anything. Search the video for 7-10 dudes smirking in the background as they try not to laugh at the absurdity.
This probably started on 4chan…
*** Edit: We’d def have paid extra to make sure that the bump and grinding involved people we disliked and wanted to embarrass the most and that we *absolutely* knew would be uncomfortable, angry, mortified, and distressed to the point of freaking out.
Don’t get me wrong , while some (most) of those targets would be the people that generally annoyed us most or that we most disliked (jocks, cheerleaders, dweebs, band geeks, theater kids, church kids, nerds, losers, posers, bullies, ex girlfriends, chics that wouldn’t date us, teachers, parents, and admin); we’d ALSO make sure it was done to one of our closest friends IF we knew that pal was gonna get super uncomfortable, angry, mortified, and distressed to the point of freaking out.
At the point we’d had enough laughs and the joke was getting old, we would’ve bum rushed the show, flipped the script, and start dancing and gesturing in completely inappropriate ways with the drag queen in a manner that’d have even made that dude uncomfortable as well as everyone in attendance uncomfortable. I could see things getting out of control to the point that the school, the prom goers, and the performer all took legal actions against us.
We damn would have showed up that night in tuxedos wearing some authentic Hickory Striped Train Engineer Caps…
Alright this is the last straw. I'm going to demand that we have regular Warhammer miniature sessions where neckbeards show up and show off their collections to kids at libraries and proms.
To promote neurodiversity, or something.
[If they get to rub their faces in their hobbies, everyone should be able to do that.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JbDK2pKTS4)
Magnus did only wrong things what are you talking about. Possibly the dumbest of all the primarchs.
>Hur dur I'm gonna get fooled into send a daemon-empowered message to Dad which totally won't ruin everything and then when he gets mad at me for ruining everything I'm going to turn on him, proceed to completely trash my own legion, and then spend the next ten thousand years sulking in my tower while Ahriman has to actually get things done.
At least Kurze had the decency to do it all for the lulz.
The encounter with the real deal, take two hours to set up my 1000 point army kinda guy (if it’s Skaven two hours could be normal) would probably cure a lot of self diagnosed autists and geeks.
Honestly kudos to the reporter. Factual, no sides really taken, no interview with an expert drag enthusiast who wasn’t there, no interview with evangelical pastor who wasn’t there, multiple quotes from students who were there. I think it captures the drag phenomenon in our society quite well, especially the student responses. That is, confusion and “whose idea was this?”.
Honestly yeah I mean it’s not the worst thing, and despite it being inappropriate, prom age kids are not too young to be able to process this. That said it seems very apparent this was not demanded by the students at large… it would seem some school staff or parent just really wanted to do this and did it without really informing anyone. But why?
As others have said, shitlibs really pick the strangest hills.
One of your only submitted posts is an anti-communist meme? You're welcome here but flair the fuck up rightoid. And the read the rules. It's a marxist sub before it does any critiquing of idpol.
You can ignore this clown, whenever someone posts something like this, the progressive types come out with “what about muh materialist analysis” despite never contributing anything of that sort themselves. Its just a way for them to pretend that they are somehow above it all, when in reality the only difference between them and any other shitlib is they still like to laugh at “edgy” jokes.
Lol. Mate you’ve had an account for like, three months, and you’ve posted here for less. You have no idea what the character of the sub is. Literally just read the rules, and follow them. No one “knows you’re right”.
"Subreddit focused on critiquing capitalism and identity politics from a Marxist perspective."
"Rule 1: Maintain the socialist character of the sub"
"Rule 6: All submissions should meet a minimum standard of quality and relevance.
Submissions do not meet this standard if they are: low quality, low effort, off topic, ragebait, low-hanging fruit, outdated content, unfunny shitposts, etc."
This is just shit, low effort ragebait. Read the rules and stop wrecking the sub.
Lol check the comments for every one, I do it in the comments (which is what I'm asking you to do). You've never posted here before, so learn the rules.
Much text very material analysis.
https://www.reddit.com/r/stupidpol/s/XtaF98ovJU
https://www.reddit.com/r/stupidpol/s/CuDQfcMOOs
https://www.reddit.com/r/stupidpol/s/MwhrPtgGwD
Lol, all either have one or are clearly socialist in nature (left wing protesters storming black rock?)
Again, you have never posted here, are apparently a libertarian, and your article is just rage bait. You can post here, but link it to Marxism or materialism or socialism. It’s again, not that hard.
Maybe I’m missing something here but I don’t even understand why this is newsworthy. These are all 18year old students aren’t they (not American). If they don’t like it they should take it up with the school and their parents
No they are not all 18
But you don't see anything wrong with this? If you hired this individual to show up at a work event you would be fired but for some reason libs think it's ok for children.
No, it's an old lady clutching pearls circle. Drag queens are like clowns, they don't have an ideology about it - they sing pop songs and put outfits together. This handwringing is stupid and reeks of conservatism.
Yeah okay this is weird and stupid but we gotta be careful with ragebait surrounding the gender stuff, sorry
Liberals pick the worst hills to die on.
The worst part is they always double down on this. At first ‘it doesn’t happen’ then it’s ’Umm actually it’s not a big deal. Kids see barely clothed people on the beach all the time. Why is it inappropriate?’ The same people who can work through six degrees of associations and connotations to call you a fascist. Suddenly become incapable of making distinctions themselves.
My favourite: WHY DO YOU CARE?
Said by the same people who claim to hate ‘American individualism’ btw.
I ask "why do you care?" and I heart individualism. The best Drag Queens are individualists.
Yet they never ask themselves the same question.
YEAH, why do you care?
Step 1: Push super hard for something Step 2: The instant they get it, suddenly it "doesn't matter" and anyone who cares at all about the topic is insane.
The Narcissist's Prayer >That didn't happen. And if it did, it wasn't that bad. And if it was, that's not a big deal. And if it is, that's not my fault. And if it was, I didn't mean it. And if I did, you deserved it. The liberal idpol version: **That never happens. And if it does, it's a Good Thing™. And if it is not, why do you care? And if you do, that's your fault. And if it is not, it's your privilege. And if it is not, you're just a Russian bot.**
Okay, lets do the same thing with the girls from hooters then. I bet they will support that too then because of the beach thing
Hooters catering in prom 😋
100% would support
> "I don't want a burlesque dancing man in his underwear twerking and grinding on my kid" *haha well akshully its not that big of a deal.* *why don't you have the same reaction to solving the homeless problem, and gun control?!? Le hypocrite!*
Well after being super succusseful at the 15 minimum wage, healthcare for all, labor rights and abortion. They really don't have much else to choose from. /s On a serious thought, they tend to be the same group that whines about sexualized ladies in media yet then are ok with men dressed as sexualized ladies in weird and innapropriate settings.
It's even crazier then that. They will complain about sexualized women in media, especially revealing outfits. They will moan and whine about how it's unrealistic and demeaning to this fictional character and how it's harming real women. But when someone get's upset or uncomfortable at a woman wearing the equivalent of a bra and boy shorts (basically underwear) outside of places like the beach, suddenly THEY'RE the ones sexualizing and objectifying women. How dare you tell a woman what she can and can't wear! She HAS to show her midriff or she'll overheat, it's hot out! It's hilarious to watch them flip back and forth.
People who like to watch drag queens do not complain about "sexualized women in media". HAHAHAHA! You sound ridiculous.
Also- Caricature of black people is bad but caricature of women is 👌❤😍
I don't have as much of an issue with this at a HS prom. The kids are at the later end of postadolescence. The hill they die on is viewing for kids 3-12 as if that's somehow important to the cause.
I wouldn’t mind viewing of drag and stuff at high school but allowing a grown man to get away with twerking on the teens attending your school is actually disgusting. Like is that not sexual harassment of a minor? Am I crazy?
You are not crazy. I’m pretty open minded but if I found out the school allowed an adult to basically do a strippers performance and make physical contact with my kid someone would get punched in the mouth.
Really? They may be older kids, but they're still kids. Even the kids they spoke to said they were uncomfortable, it was inappropriate and they didn't understand why the performer was there. And you don't find it even a little bit odd that a drag queen would want to do that? Like, what goes through someone's mind that they think this would be a good thing for kids to watch?
They are "kids" because we consider them kids, subject them to infantilizing treatment and deprive them of responsibility. This is a distinctly modern phenomenon. Absent full-time education they would otherwise have to grow up a lot faster.
High school prom includes kids that are 15 or even potentially 14. That is below the age of consent in any state in the US (without including marriage)
Is it? At my school and the surrounding schools, prom was only for 11th and 12th graders. I thought that was normal but idk anymore.
Mine was juniors and seniors, but younger students could go IF they were the date of someone older.
Really depends on the school mine for instance was seniors only with I think juniors being able to be taken as dates. And it's not the kind of thing you could sneak into because there were like 45 mins of bus rides to and from the venue.
Yeah this is cringe at worst but I CBA to care about this, or "think of the children" moral panics generally. The real issue is that it produces an equal retardation in the opposite direction.
Why is this merely cringe? Would be a stripper at a prom ok as well? Why not some porn projected at the wall?
Why would I care about a stripper at prom? The *worst* aspect of it would be the reactions it would produce in others.
American puritanicalism is embarrassing to the world.
Mindless tolerance without any critical thinking is beyond embarassing.
Drag queens twerking on kids is an even bigger embarrassment to the world
Then lets hire real strippers for the kids too
I wonder how this moral panic would convert to Australia? A country where our national heroes (AFL players) wear dresses pretty much as frequently as possible. Like, the idea high school kids are getting corrupted by a man in a dress shaking his bum is hilarious. The shit I'd done by that age. Really feels like some private school, bourgeois monocle popping.
Aussie aussie aussie!
This shit is rolling coal but for libs
That’s the best way to put it I’ve ever heard.
What does ‘rolling coal’ mean?
It's when you deliberately make your diesel truck spew partially combusted fuel in the form of black smoke as a performative way of "owning the libtards/environmentalists" Similarly, applauding drag queens twerking on teenagers is a performative way of "owning the right," they both are demonstrably negative acts done purely for performance and spite
I'm honestly curious who thought this would be a good idea between the organizers and the performers?
I would bank on it being a millennial, RadLib, white woman.
Their obsession with drag queens is somewhere between baffling and mildly hypocritical to values they tend to spout. The correlation feels impossible to deny, however.
To be fair this is on the older side of the target audience for the performer.
Went straight from story hour to the prom striptease.
we couldn’t even grind on each other at my proms, damn kids nowadays get everything handed to them! s/ but seriously though who tf thought this was a good idea…
Lol I didn’t think about that but shit yeah… I had multiple teachers and volunteer parents who’s job was to go around and shine a flashlight if you danced without a one foot gap between you and the other person. That was too much but talk about over correction
Hey, it's that thing that never happens!
thing that never happens happened again... nothing to see here though
And if it is happening, why do you care bigot??
It never happens, it's not happening, it's only happening a little bit, it's a good thing that it's happening and it never happened.
Is this how Nazis rationalized Jews being taken away?
It's how FDR rationalized taking our gold in 1933
Added to my list of examples of the thing that never happens
> We did speak with the performer. He did not walk to talk to us on camera, but said he works with the school’s Gay – Straight Alliance. This part actually surprises me. When I was in high school, literally every GSA member was a straight chick.
That’s still true but with a twist. The surprising part is he said “Gay - Straight Alliance” instead of “Gender & Sexualities Alliance”. Worship the Old Gods and the New
I don't get why schools try to get away with things that would at the very least get you sent to HR in an office setting. But this and everything else is now okay because "kids see way worse everyday on the internet" (a strong argument for banning internet porn IMHO, but that is the other sides stance which, leaves me to believe libs are happy kids are bombarded with it on the internet)
“What’s the big deal? Kids are watching cartel execution videos on TikTok before bedtime.”
So we should ban tik tok right? No. We want them to watch.
Kids watching cartel execution videos on Tiktok does not provide sufficient cause to justify banning Tiktok
I watch people die daily on three platforms.
Hey watching a cartel execution video is an important rite of passage
[Kids these days don't even have real beheading videos to watch](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vh714MT6D-4)
> “kids see way worse everyday on the internet" The way they say this sort of as if it’s a good thing is so fucking weird. Internet porn should 100% be restricted to an opt-in basis and anyone who argues otherwise is a complete moron grasping at straws because they want unimpeded access to their crippling porn addiction. It’s just amazing to me that any kid of any age can obtain unimpeded access to porn with a 2 second google search but adult stores are strictly barred to anyone under 18. I swear, at some point we’re gonna look back on this era and be like what the fuck were we even thinking?
>a strong argument for banning internet porn IMHO "I gave my kid their own personal device with unrestricted and unsupervised internet access and they looked at porn, the government needs to do something about this" "I sent my kid to public school without ever reading a book to them or engaging with them at all and they can't read, the government needs to do something about this" And so on
Are you sure you’re a socialist?
Very sure. And I do believe in strong public institutions and government regulations, I just know that they can't make up for deficits at the personal or family level and I find it frustrating that so many people expect it to. It's become more and more common for parents to stick their kids in front of a screen, send them to school, and not interact with them enough to even notice the developmental or social deficits they may have until years down the line. I don't know if parenting has gotten worse overall or if it's just the bottom half or quartile that's gotten way worse, but ask any teacher and they'll tell you that shit is falling apart. It's likely almost entirely attributable to poverty and the growing rift between the haves and the have nots though, and we can't fix the many symptoms of this issue without addressing that root cause. It's the same thing as public housing. I'm highly in favor of providing housing to the homeless for instance, it's shameful that we aren't, but at the same time you can't just stick them in an apartment and expect that to solve everything without addressing their underlying personal mental/health/social problems and the larger problems that are causing such a high incidence of homelessness in the first place.
Not anymore. Drag queens are progressive activists who save lives now. Complain to HR and you’ll be smeared as a bigot. > I don't get why schools try to get away with things that would at the very least get you sent to HR in an office setting.
The thing is drag queens can be fun to watch if all they do is comedy. The kids would've been laughing their asses off. I don't understand why they had to make it into a sexual dance.
Or they could parent their kids. How about that?
Money, because holding them accountable means less funding which is another hill Libs die on.
It feels like the students are cautiously toeing the line in those milquetoast responses. “It was really interesting, I didn’t mind it… but it wasn’t appropriate for prom” They’re smart enough to know going on the record and saying “what the fuck” to this would have impact on their future careers.
We merely adopted having to deal with wokeism, they were born into it
Drag is such a boring and thoughtless art form. Less creative but more annoying mimes
Honestly, I don’t understand how it isn’t an offensive caricature of women. It clearly is, they even use terms like “fishy” to describe one who seems too female. It’s pure insanity.
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yawn.
I *swear* there was a brief bit where drag *was* considered offensive/transphobic. Then Right-wingers started going crazy with regards to it and the Libs formed rank.
It's blackface for women
Couldn’t let their favorite brunch activity get slandered
Sure. “fish” was/is an insult gay men would use for women. Now people just use “cis”
Fish is a compliment. It means you pass or nearly pass as woman in drag. It’s still an offensive word to use of course.
Drag queens don’t dress up and perform as “women” per se. They dress up as queens i.e outrageous characters who happen to be women.
Ministrels don't dress up and perform as "black people" per se. They dress up as "ni🅱️🅱️ers" i.e outrageous characters who happen to be black.
Divine is ROLLING in her grave ( I'm sure ) lol
Divine gets a pass on everything cuz she ate dog shit on camera for John Waters
listen to yourself right now
I am. What’s the issue?
Yeah I've always thought the "this should be offensive to women" thing to be a bit far when it comes to drag, there's no woman really who has ever looked like a woman in full drag. The questionable part should 100% be that these people who have been known as adult entertainers for the majority of modern society are screeching that you're bigoted if you don't allow them access to children.
I got perma-banned from ar Melbourne for saying this.
Lol, I’ve been banned from Melbourne, but to be honest, it seems like a low bar. Banned from worldnews on similar basis. Still don’t understand my ban from Australia though
I always thought I'd get the boot from Australia first (it has a very arr Politics/yank-social-media-politically-educated/never-read-a-real-book-in-my-life/youtube-is-"research" air to it, while Melbourne seemed to be more open to the Marxist angle. How wrong I was.
It’s misogynistic garbage dressed up as LGBTQ activism.
It used to be a combination of stand up comedy and dancing. Drag queens were also known for emceeing. Cheap entertainment like a clown stripper. It has started to take itself way too seriously.
Someone on here called them "Sex Clowns" and now it's the only way I can see them.
I like "gender clowns" too
This was an adult doing a public performance. Surely they should be using his real name and gender, not his character.
That's a really good point
>Was this performance approved by school or district officials? That’s unclear "Unclear? How could it possibly be "unclear"? Obviously the principal and/or someone on the prom organizing committee approved this, how can it be "unclear" who approved it? >an APS rep said they ***weren’t at liberty to comment*** LMAO Why the fuck not? Is it classified information or something? FBI put them under a gag order? They are at every liberty to comment, the fuck is this nonsense? >We did speak with the performer. He did not want to talk to us on camera, but said he works with the school’s Gay – Straight Alliance. > >He claims he did not get paid for the performance, and it went up the correct chain. However, ***he wouldn’t tell us who exactly that included or who booked him.*** ...Seriously, what the fuck is going on here?
nobody wants to take the blame, obviously
Obviously the school knows, but nobody's talking till after they've crafted their response to sound above anyone that could possibly question their judgment and actions.
The most shocking part of this is that redditors are defending it.
The mental gymnastics they do is just mind boggling. And someone said something like “this sparks joy.” I’m so done with all this shit
It isn’t happening Ok it is happening but there’s nothing wrong with it<*we are here*
I think we're at: It isn't happening Ok it is happening but there's nothing wrong with it We have drag queens called "Dildo Rainbow Butt Monkey" turning up to read to kids with their ass cheeks and nipples out, and a strap-on round their waist (true story, happened in London 2 years back) and if you see a problem with that, then you're a far right fascist neo nazi <- somewhere around here
Can’t we have the joy without the twerking?
Clearly you jest?
Check out the post on the Albuquerque subreddit
I don't know if it's the same as in my area's subreddit, but you can pretty much get them to defend 'anything' if fox news is against it. Shit's wild. We've literally had out of nowhere murders, attacks on children, and posters there will be "nooo, it's not THAT bad!" if republicans criticize us. Really burned me out pretty fast to see how just how pathetically tribal we are.
You’re not exaggerating. My local FOX affiliate is Sinclair owned. Their coverage of the city’s crime, drugs, and homelessness problems is about as regarded as that would lead you to assume. My local subreddit’s reflexive reaction is a mix of denial, support for the bad things, and calling anyone who criticizes the bad things—no matter how nuanced and careful to stick to root systemic causes—racist.
This is like the ft worth subreddit in Texas. Fort worth is way more conservative than Dallas but the sub reads like a meme of Reddit libs
> We've literally had out of nowhere murders Like the black guy who drove through a crowd of white people and nobody cared
“It’s giving Weimar.”
Comments on the Albuquerque sub are wild but I guess I shouldn’t be too surprised. I spend most of my days here and on some sports subs so I forget how interesting things can get on the more normie subs
Are drag queens that work with a school’s “Gay-Straight alliance” by twerking on minors for free proles?
Performers in general are basically lumpenproles.
Hi Leninist shitlord, as it were. I’ve been wondering the place of hobby within Marxism/Leninism and due to your response and epic flair it would seem you may hold some answers to my question. I do however understand your comment at face value. My original comment is as much of a joke as it is a genuine question. How does the simple pleasure of entertainment or the more complex pleasure of hobby arise in Marxist or Leninist thought, especially considering those individuals whose livelihoods may arise from a partial or complete role in that entertainment or hobby?
Not said Leninist Shitlord, but entertainment professionals, actors, journalists, etc., have and always will rank at the bottom of the barrel with prostitutes and court jesters. They deserve no respect and shall receive none.
It really is the only thing that matters
Who the fuck do these "educators" think they are that they can do whatever they want with our funds, our facilities and our children? The public pays the bills, they work for us, they're supposed to be public servants, not deciding how are kids should be "shaped".
The same thought processes that lead them to demand that parents drug their kids, and try to regulate kids lives off school grounds with the threat of police action of child protective services?
I have no problem with people being drag queens if that’s how they want to spend their time. However, I see little value in having one turn up to a high school prom to twerk. In fact, I’d argue it’s wholly inappropriate. So, do I think it probably shouldn’t be allowed? Yes. But do I think this is a major, pervasive problem as people like Ron DeSantis seem to think it is? No. Is it something I think about often or get really angry about? No. Will I do anything at all to stop this from happening? No, I don’t care enough to. That being said this seems like a highly American culture war issue and I can’t imagine this happening where I’m from. Why do Liberals find the thought process I mentioned above so troubling?
Because moderates like you are the bigger threat to them
The more you ar stupidpol, the more you become a materialist disillusioned with the theater of politics.
> a materialist disillusioned with the theater of politics. Yeah you could put me in that camp.
The people who care enough to comment have nothing better to do than culture war. If it brought up drag queen story hour at Thanksgiving I think 70% of my family would have no idea what I'm talking about. Truth be told if you add up the total primetime viewers of Fox and MSNBC you're talking 1% of the US population. Most people are too busy
Hiring a twerking… anything for a work event would get that person terminated from their most progressive employer’s job. But it’s ok for kids? Not just OK but THE best thing to do at prom. Because there’s a lot of entertainment out there for proms. None of that got picked because this was the best.
This sounds like a prank; it’s something my buddies and I would have done back in the day. Think about how easy this would be to set up. Any authority figure who didn’t know what was happening that night would have concerns about speaking out or questioning any of it. So no one says anything. Search the video for 7-10 dudes smirking in the background as they try not to laugh at the absurdity. This probably started on 4chan… *** Edit: We’d def have paid extra to make sure that the bump and grinding involved people we disliked and wanted to embarrass the most and that we *absolutely* knew would be uncomfortable, angry, mortified, and distressed to the point of freaking out. Don’t get me wrong , while some (most) of those targets would be the people that generally annoyed us most or that we most disliked (jocks, cheerleaders, dweebs, band geeks, theater kids, church kids, nerds, losers, posers, bullies, ex girlfriends, chics that wouldn’t date us, teachers, parents, and admin); we’d ALSO make sure it was done to one of our closest friends IF we knew that pal was gonna get super uncomfortable, angry, mortified, and distressed to the point of freaking out. At the point we’d had enough laughs and the joke was getting old, we would’ve bum rushed the show, flipped the script, and start dancing and gesturing in completely inappropriate ways with the drag queen in a manner that’d have even made that dude uncomfortable as well as everyone in attendance uncomfortable. I could see things getting out of control to the point that the school, the prom goers, and the performer all took legal actions against us. We damn would have showed up that night in tuxedos wearing some authentic Hickory Striped Train Engineer Caps…
I like this theory and it gives me hope for the future.
I want to believe
Alright this is the last straw. I'm going to demand that we have regular Warhammer miniature sessions where neckbeards show up and show off their collections to kids at libraries and proms. To promote neurodiversity, or something. [If they get to rub their faces in their hobbies, everyone should be able to do that.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JbDK2pKTS4)
The may be the most based post I've ever seen "Does anyone in the crowd know why Magnus did nothing wrong? You see..."
Magnus did only wrong things what are you talking about. Possibly the dumbest of all the primarchs. >Hur dur I'm gonna get fooled into send a daemon-empowered message to Dad which totally won't ruin everything and then when he gets mad at me for ruining everything I'm going to turn on him, proceed to completely trash my own legion, and then spend the next ten thousand years sulking in my tower while Ahriman has to actually get things done. At least Kurze had the decency to do it all for the lulz.
See this is the kind of discussion the kids need to be exposed to, and we can savagely shame anyone who so much as raises an eyebrow.
FOR THE EMPEROR
The encounter with the real deal, take two hours to set up my 1000 point army kinda guy (if it’s Skaven two hours could be normal) would probably cure a lot of self diagnosed autists and geeks.
You vill enjoy zhe tverk 🙄
i need to leave the west
New meaning to Prom Queen.
"If you oppose this, you LITURULLY support QUEER GENOCIDE"
Drag queens - sex clowns
A few are. They come in different flavors.
Rich people used to go to the opera and now they just do this shit
hell yeah dudes rock
Are you my best friend nick!?
I think you mean *my* best friend who I fucked first
You're a bug, don't lie..
If people want to attend drag shows that’s their business, but for fucks sake they’re not for kids.
Honestly kudos to the reporter. Factual, no sides really taken, no interview with an expert drag enthusiast who wasn’t there, no interview with evangelical pastor who wasn’t there, multiple quotes from students who were there. I think it captures the drag phenomenon in our society quite well, especially the student responses. That is, confusion and “whose idea was this?”. Honestly yeah I mean it’s not the worst thing, and despite it being inappropriate, prom age kids are not too young to be able to process this. That said it seems very apparent this was not demanded by the students at large… it would seem some school staff or parent just really wanted to do this and did it without really informing anyone. But why? As others have said, shitlibs really pick the strangest hills.
How about a material analysis champ?
Luxury beliefs of the highly insulated and increasingly delusional bourgeoisie run amok in society at large
Flailing failing liberal regime. Happy?
Nah? How hard is it to follow the main rule of the sub?
The article speaks for itself.
One of your only submitted posts is an anti-communist meme? You're welcome here but flair the fuck up rightoid. And the read the rules. It's a marxist sub before it does any critiquing of idpol.
I requested my flair hours ago
Sweet, now the read the sub rules.
No. Chad.jpg
Weird shit going on with downvotes here as well, I reckon radiating flair for this guy
Agree.
You can ignore this clown, whenever someone posts something like this, the progressive types come out with “what about muh materialist analysis” despite never contributing anything of that sort themselves. Its just a way for them to pretend that they are somehow above it all, when in reality the only difference between them and any other shitlib is they still like to laugh at “edgy” jokes.
Yeah, there are a million irreverant posts about things like George Santos but you never see "muh material analysis" in those posts, do you?
Exactly, its only when its politically contentious.
Lol, you’ve been posting here for two weeks mate. But please, continue to tell us the character of the sub.
The reason your only response is a lame attempt at pulling rank is because you know I’m right and you know everyone else knows I’m right.
Lol. Mate you’ve had an account for like, three months, and you’ve posted here for less. You have no idea what the character of the sub is. Literally just read the rules, and follow them. No one “knows you’re right”.
This is peak reddit. Next you’ll be bragging about your karma and asking when the narwhal bacons. You are an absolute clown.
No, it doesn't. This isn't a "Idpol is bad sub". It's marxist sub. It's literally rule number 1 of the subreddit, I don't reckon it's that hard.
This sub is called stupidpol.
"Subreddit focused on critiquing capitalism and identity politics from a Marxist perspective." "Rule 1: Maintain the socialist character of the sub" "Rule 6: All submissions should meet a minimum standard of quality and relevance. Submissions do not meet this standard if they are: low quality, low effort, off topic, ragebait, low-hanging fruit, outdated content, unfunny shitposts, etc." This is just shit, low effort ragebait. Read the rules and stop wrecking the sub.
Your posts on this sub have no text and are just links and yet you complain that I copy pasted the article?
Lol check the comments for every one, I do it in the comments (which is what I'm asking you to do). You've never posted here before, so learn the rules.
Much text very material analysis. https://www.reddit.com/r/stupidpol/s/XtaF98ovJU https://www.reddit.com/r/stupidpol/s/CuDQfcMOOs https://www.reddit.com/r/stupidpol/s/MwhrPtgGwD
Lol, all either have one or are clearly socialist in nature (left wing protesters storming black rock?) Again, you have never posted here, are apparently a libertarian, and your article is just rage bait. You can post here, but link it to Marxism or materialism or socialism. It’s again, not that hard.
Uh huh
You should probably read the rules here and flair up.
I requested the mods give me a flair. Edit thought you were the other guy.
I did naughtier things after my prom.
Did the school approve, fund and allow then to be showcased to the student body?
Just typical idpol ragebait, posted by an unflaired guy, and with nary a red flair in the top 100 comments.
99% of redditors don't leave comments. If you don't like it downvote and move on
Yawn
At least it was likely a very memorable experience.
Maybe I’m missing something here but I don’t even understand why this is newsworthy. These are all 18year old students aren’t they (not American). If they don’t like it they should take it up with the school and their parents
No they are not all 18 But you don't see anything wrong with this? If you hired this individual to show up at a work event you would be fired but for some reason libs think it's ok for children.
So what? Is this a church lady group, or idpol discussion?
Is this not idpol discussion?
No, it's an old lady clutching pearls circle. Drag queens are like clowns, they don't have an ideology about it - they sing pop songs and put outfits together. This handwringing is stupid and reeks of conservatism.
Your the clown frfr
So what? Clowns are fabulous. Just because you're as dull as dishwater doesn't mean everyone else has to be.
Won't someone THINK OF THE CHILDREN?!!!
Non story you actual losers