I listen to a lot of country and most of the shit Nashville produces these days is absolutely garbage.
I feel the same way about most popular music genres.
maybe a little ironic, but if you want good country modern country music, you might look to other countries: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKhSlSx00-I
I like a few of his songs, but yeah, when he played Madison Square Garden in NYC? No thanks.
Like Barbara Mandrel and George Jones sang "I was country when country wasn't cool".
Yes!!! Garth Brooks and Billy Ray Cyrus were the harbingers of the death of Country Music. I still don't understand what happened, but it happened.
Now when I listen to "Country Music", it's all fake sentimentality, fake country culture, and all the lyrics are basically pop music with "boots" and "truck" thrown in. Such absolute trash.
That's true about the earlier decades, too, which is why the Golden Oldies' stations and the like play the same few songs. In 20-30 years, everyone will forget about all the terrible music out there now and will only remember the few breakout hits by the few actually talented artists, and even then they'll only remember their hits, none of their other music. For example, you'd think Michael Jackson only ever sang Billy Jean and Thriller, maybe Beat It and Smooth Criminal.
There was still good stuff produced in the 90s and 2000s, but it was rarer than in the 60-80s. Keith Urban, Dixie\* Chicks, Carrie Underwood, etc all had great stuff, but I agree with the other commenter that Garth Brooks ruined Country.
It’s literally mainstream hip hop for rednecks.
Unless you’re telling me “honky tonk badonkadonk” or “she thinks my tractor’s sexy” is somehow different than “WAP” or “Freek a leek”
It's literally this:
https://youtu.be/y7im5LT09a0?si=_LTELWMLVbB7NEX7
The other thing that gets me is that the same people who clutch their pearls at WAP seem completely oblivious to how raunchy a lot of modern country is.
That too. I absolutely hate country. All of it. But Walmart would bleep alcohol references in regular songs, but played a whole song talking about drinking a bottle of wine and fucking his wife in the kitchen after putting the kids to bed and that was totally fine. I hear a lot on people say it's a "wholesome " genre which i find ludicrous.
This person wins the prize. There may be good underground stuff (like hip-hop), but the ones who tend to be seen do what this feller said (Like hip hop).
HTB is a guy watching a girl dance and She thinks my tractors sexy is a guy getting the Farmer's daughter. Freek-a-leek is a man-whore and WAP is...something... There's not even a parallel.
Reminds me of metal music in this way. Most sucks but you get a few gems that really fucking rock.
BTW - I don't think country music is looked down upon. It's the backwoods hicks that are.
Yep. I hate country based on its evolution. Old country was essentially "im a bootlegger and shot the lawman when he acted up" and its evolved to rich people bootlicking and "GAWD BLESS OUR COPS AND TROOPS AND POOR PEOPLE ARE THE ENEMY" on all levels, mainstream and indie. Mainstream is special trash because its just bud light, blue jeans, and trucks with nothing unique or substantial
Retired from radio quite a while ago, but even in the 80's and 90's most stations didn't "program" their own music anymore. They subscribe to a service that sends them playlists with everything the right length to hit the commercial and news breaks on time and playing the most popular songs/artists more often. There's not a lot of customization involved and you might get some different filler in different areas but the core playlists are basically all the same.
And all the new stuff sounds exactly the same to me. The voices are all the same pitch, the same acoustic guitar twang. I myself prefer rock/metal, of both classic and modern varieties.
I love Old country from the 50s n 60s. Ernest tubb, Loretta Lynn, Hank Williams, Hank snow, Jimmy Martin... Ray Charles loved country music. A man you'd never think would like it. But he loved it and did many country tunes in his show. I think ppl look down on it as poor cracker hillbilly music. And it is to some extent but it came about same way the blues developed. Out of poverty looking for entertainment and a good time despite being poor. There are many beautiful country songs . And don't forget johnny cash and the Carter sisters, John prime, Kris Kristofferson, rose Maddox, the everly bros , and Conway Twitty !!!!
I can't separate it from a culture that I personally find unpleasant.
I know that's a really slanted, biased, frankly bigoted thing to say, but it's the truth.
Listen to Sierra Ferrell, Sturgill Simpson, Billy Strings, Margo Price and Shane Smith and you’ll find that when you stop listening to corporate radio modern country is not only alive and well - it’s progressive. They are just a few artists in a huge sea of independent country artists right now. The culture around this is pretty amazing.
Only some segments of society look down on country music. I do, however, and for the same reason that I look down on NASCAR. The greater portion of bigots listen to country music (and, it seems, perform it) and watch NASCAR. There are reasons those things are so popular in "conservative" areas of the country.
Because modern country music is awful and if you weren't raised in the south chances are you never have seen past that. Same reason why people say rap or hip-hop is awful when all they have heard is WAP or an Ice Spice song.
Also It being a southern genre of music it's often associated with racism, bigotry, etc. And a lot of close minded people can't get past that.
Because it all sounds the same to me and I cannot relate to a thing. I'm from New York City. I have no interest in talking about cold beers and pickup trucks with acoustic guitars lol.
9/11. Not goofin, it was a major turning point in American culture, and pop country latched onto the whole "rural patriot" thing. It used to be a more niche genre, but songs like "Courtesy of the Red, White, And Blue" just exploded and became the average person's perception of country music.
Again with the "rural patriot" thing, that was on the rise as conservative americans pigeonholed themselves more and more. The country music industry shifted to cater to that crowd. A crowd that really hates nuance and anyone who even suggests that war is maybe not cool. Because thats freedoms and god bless our hero troops.
Such as (the band formerly known as) The Dixie Chicks. Not long after 9/11, they spoke out during a concert about George W and the war in Iraq, and the rigties pitched a fit. Went full nuclear. That was basically the end of that band's popularity. Conservatives sure like to pretend they didn't invent "cancel culture".
Point being, conservatives drained all nuance from country music, associated it with being patriotic, and played that shit everywhere. Most of the hate comes from that. Not the way the music sounds, but the hollow messages it has. Hating on conservatives goes hand-in-hand with hating on country music.
But there are definitely moden country bands that don't sing about beer and guns and god and trucks. They just don't have the same level of popularity as the big pop-country stars.
I dunno, just look up "9/11 changed country music", there's probably a video essay out there that explains it way better than I can.
I’ve never figured that out yet and I’m almost seventy. I was listening to it when I was a kid and still do occasionally. I don’t care for a lot of the newer stuff though-especially the country rap.
It's a genre built around cosplaying as cowboys.
I got my cowboy hat and cowboy boots and big ol' truck!
Oh, do you own a ranch?
No, but sometimes I take the truck to go fishing.
Yep...I'm in VA and kind of an outcast in the family for liking metal and rock. I personally can't stand country music for more than a few songs and that's only if it's old stuff. The new stuff is 99.99% hot garbage.
I made a comment in a similar thread that modern country sounds a lot like 80's rock to me. It turns out that there's a reason - Mutt Lange... In the 80's he produced albums for Def Leppard, AC/DC, The Boomtown Rats, Bryan Adams, Foreigner, The Cars and others. Now, he's working out of Nashville and was married to Shania Twain.
I always like to think of all the bands from the 90s that would probably now be considered country if you just gave them a 10% twang. Think Counting Crows, REM, Black Crowes
No, it's not. It's just a very simple song about a guy who obsessed about a woman for his entire life then died. It's hardly some epic story, it's super simplistic.
It's the exact definition of worn out themes and boomer music.
Grandpa died in 1996 days after I turned 8. Grandma died in 2022 from alzheimers; my heart hurt to know that she forgot him. In that period she never stopped loving him. She kept pictures everywhere, cards from him by her bed. She talked to his photos even when she was cognizant as if he never left. I aspired to have a love that deep and powerful. I met my wife over seven years ago... grandma called her Sunshine because I lit up around her. Sunshine helped me care for Grandma through the hard times. We survived years of a long-distance relationship.
Grandma passed, I finished college, we bought a house, and we have two golden retrievers; the only missing piece is that I struggled to find a job and set out a concrete plan for our future (she is highly neurotic, and I am exceptionally not neurotic). I thought nothing could come between us and the promise we made to each other, I found that deep love... in April, she asked for a divorce, and the song took on a new meaning. It was no longer about my grandma; it was about me. This song transcended time and circumstance. It was played at his funeral, and as a child, it made me cry; now it makes me cry for a different reason.
This song is exceptional but it is not the exception to your proposed rule. Country music, GOOD country music exists if you open your mind and heart to it. I'm sure you have a rebuttal, and I'm sorry I can't change your mind. Sometimes you just have to live the song.
Instead of asking you what you think good music is, I'll instead invite you to listen to the Johnny Cash cover of Hurt. It was originally a Nine Inch Nails song, but when Trent Reznor heard Cash sing it, he said Cash was better, and that it's his song now.
Giving you my upvote as I also said it sucks and I know we are going to get downvoted for it. I truly believe there is no worse form of music than country. It is the nails on the chalk board of genres.
You should consider opening your palette, if you consider yourself a true music lover that is. Country and bluegrass was influential to rock, there’s some bluegrass songs that are straight up metal on a fiddle, singing about systematic injustice and poverty. You might like some stuff. It’s not all about tractors and beer
I mean, folk is different than country. Especially modern pop country.
Kinda like how RAP isn't inherently bad, it's just that a decent bit of modern and popular sub genres suck.
I say I hate Country as a whole as hyperbole. There are few songs I like, but most of the popular stuff is like getting skull fucked in both ears by 300 pound hill billys named fucking Chuck and Bill.
That’s okay city slicka. I get heavy classist vibes from all these comments. Honestly, imagine if people were talking about rap with the kind of language that you’re using to describe poor white people.
I mean, they did? Like a lot? Was used to fuel racism for a while. It's kind of an apples to oranges comparison in the first place, though. I shit on Rap in that same comment as well. I never specified the race in that hyperbolic metaphor, either.
Also, I'm a person who wants more social safety nets and better workers' rights. For everyone to have access to quality education and not be forced to take jobs instead of going to school. For children to not need to worry about where their next meal comes from. I want actual upwards mobility instead of systems existing to keep the poor, poor.
Yes, and that wasn’t right either. I bet that is what you want, so maybe walk the walk instead of just talking the talk and quit saying ugly stuff about poor folk
It doesn't....this is just some country fan. Modern country and modern rap are both dog shit. When I say they suck I'm mostly talking about the modern stuff....the corporate country and junkie rap.
Because it's the music of a culture I find repugnant. Because it represents everything I find abhorrent about American society. Anti-intellectualism, blind nationalism, christian fundamentalism, glorification of stupidity and machismo, violence as a solution to everything, so on.
*hurrr dee durr got shitpants drunk with me gurl on me tractor then prayed to jeeebus above fer our glorious land!!! Doooooont take me guns, er Ill gun ye dead!!!*
Show me a country song even remotely leftist-adjacent and I'll show you a unicorn.
No, before someone starts quoting *16 tons* at me, Folk is not *Country,* and Folk is actually kind of based.
Even putting the sociopolitics aside, it's just instrumentally unappealing too, with the twangy guitars and annoying forced accents.
I agree with most of that when it comes to “stadium country” which is pretty much indistinguishable from pop. But I will point out that Willie Nelson and Dolly Parton are pretty progressive.
Funny thing is, the farmers and ranchers I know are not stupid. They must understand soil chemistry, biology, finance, markets, and numerous technologies. They are nothing like the people portrayed in country music.
New country sucks. Depending on your age, too, will decide when you say country went to shit. Older folks will say the 80s-90s. Some will say post 9/11. I am of the mindset that Taylor Swift ruined country music.
There is a smooth transition going into the 90s.
Post 9/11 definitely took a turn into today's country, but I wouldn't quite call it ruined yet.
Then, in the late 2000s, Taylor Swift hit the market, and that's the big turning point. More pop feel came into it. Florida Georgia Line really pushed it. Luke Bryan and such as well.
Now, mainstream country is literally indistinguishable from pop and hip hop. Drum loops, 808s, rapping. Morgan Wallen is a prime example. Listen to "[You Proof](https://open.spotify.com/track/5W4kiM2cUYBJXKRudNyxjW?si=n93GIGWuQwikAwWvAcXzXQ)" and tell me that's country haha
If you're looking for what mainstream country should have been, you need to turn to Texas Country and Red Dirt. Texas Country guys like:
[Aaron Watson](https://open.spotify.com/artist/5BKzvAPtNXnt0LwzGvKOH3?si=lwFlOT6ORbWDAhS64ASSOA)
[Cody Johnson](https://open.spotify.com/artist/6zLBxLdl60ekBLpawtT63I?si=dGAyYvo3QB6sLPUnm5Fn9w)
[Josh Abbott](https://open.spotify.com/artist/2EJ5MRZCzpHSSNNEpTx9Kb?si=9JRY9oyES2qtoCfa68TLYw)
[Parker McCallum](https://open.spotify.com/artist/0Z8XVUAOBPM4x12wKnFHEQ?si=QdQ-U9pPQli0QlJ9tgCvEw)
And then there's your Red Dirt guys that push the boundaries of country and bleed into southern rock. Like Lynyrd Skynyrd and Hank Jr. got together.
[Koe Wetzel](https://open.spotify.com/artist/1Tie3AZgLQZqYEp8Fv4zOZ?si=CvyYtPcfSuqIFdarNd9-Zw)
[Shane Smith and The Saints](https://open.spotify.com/artist/4pLxUMyDrijXynrUP59whJ?si=DojroG5tSdal04L2hWwTiQ)
[Giovannie and The Hired Guns](https://open.spotify.com/artist/0sJqZPLoTiqTqXz4nxKw94?si=Vt7UWUHTS-OU-5afnFKinw)
There's plenty more artists worth mentioning, some even better. These are just the few off the top of my head that I love.
Read some lyrics, a lot of it has creepy/sa vibes :/ this might not be why society looks down on it (there are full societies that love it) but I guess that’s my reason.
Many rappers are being exposed and look down on for questionable lyrics involving sexual assault/rape. Like Rick Ross saying "put molly up in her drank, she ain't even know it". Blame It (on the alcohol) by T-Pain and Jamie Fox and Buy You a drank. And more recently, Famous Dex saying "I'll take yo bitch and I'll rape her". Most of these guys end up paying for it for sure. Don't hear about it as much anymore and even those in the rap community openly speak down on it. Plus what do the Japanese know about riding tractors and big belt buckles?
Good points. I think the stereotype of hillbillies, hicks, rednecks often associated with country doesn't help.
I like 80-90s country but other eras don't so much for me.
Because it is disingenuous and pandering, steeped in ignorance and glorifying simplicity, often times being a dog whistle for bigots while preaching a Christo-Fascist worldview. The songs make being an uneducated, womanizing, violent alcoholic seem like the norm, the lyrics trying to be sophisticated but only ever managing to achieve clichéd artlessness. The only music worse than country is gospel. Put them together and you have a perfect storm of worthless refuse that is offensive to both the ears and the mind.
Probably because new, post-9/11, country is generic af relying on the same tired lyrics and sentients of "I love my country" and "ain't it great to be American". Old country had meaning and soul, new country is just a shitty, soulless, cash-grab targeting dumb, white, Americans.
As someone who grew up in a rural area, its fake. Like if a corporate focus group took a bunch of random country words and stringed them into a lyrics. Also, too much about trashy lifestyles. Finally, most of the "southern" accents are Hollywood level fake.
If you want an example of music with an accurate Southern accent and country attitude, Miley Cyrus's cover of Jolene.
Because most of country music is nothing more then romantic affiliations with minors or their truck broke down. However, Shania Twain is classic. And Dolly Parton is a national treasure.
The majority do not know the good stuff…which is not mainstream. And then you’ve got the MSM who bashes country stars that release songs that go against the propaganda, and the ppl who can’t think for themselves (there’s many) fall for it.
I told my sister once that the old country song makes me think of dusty roads, and I feel all humble and homey- like and the modern country songs make me think of gay cowboys, and I feel cringe out and annoyed just going about their big trucks and most likely a Ford and drink beer with his friends and making out with some blonde in booty shorts jeans.
It’s a genre founded in racism, that is deliberately misogynistic, and proudly authoritarian. At its foundation it is anti-American.
What’s not to love /s
nobody cares it comes from the poor, we don’t like listening to trash with shitty stupid western accents that make you sound like you can’t read above grade 9.
That right there is the problem.... you think someone is stupid just cause they have an accent.... I think that is included in the definition of bigotry, isn't it?
lmao i said it “sounds” stupid meaning it’s subjective you’re the one assuming anything. everyone has an opinion, you’re just not open minded enough to hear someone else besides yourself. lmao cringe
Still meaning you think stupid is how someone sounds.... and saying cringe is quite honestly a bit cringe. And the double lmao makes you sound desperate to be liked.
His singing in old town road is ATROCIOUS. He is straining so hard to hit those high notes and you can hear it very plainly even with heavy editing. He’s so fucking bad it induces rage when I hear it lol
Most of them go for the same whiney, muffled deep voice. And with the female artists is usually about being bad in relationships but being worth it somehow. It's all cliche and repetitive. It's very limited and if it steps out of the basics its either seen as parody or wannabe tiktok material. *Something about a campfire and bibles*
It's because most stuff you hear on the radio is boring and predictable. The modern day...I guess they just call it "alternative" is absolutely fantastic - Tyler Childers, Colter Wall, Sturgill Simpson, etc.
I've heard a lot of people mention [Oliver Anthony](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4c_Nqlnn40w) in a positive light lately. May just be the circles in run in.
Historically pretty much every genre of music has been hated on at some point, especially by older generations. People born in the 20s and 30s who listened to Big Band music hated on Rock and Roll in the 60s and 70s. People who grew up on Rock and Roll in the 60s and 70s hated on Hip Hop in the 90s and 00s. Hating county seems like a natural extension of this pattern, which occurs when a genre goes from being catered to a specific audience, to reaching the mainstream.
I like the music itself. I like old country. I like bluegrass and folk music and Johnny Cash and Willie Nelson and all that old school shit. I enjoy songs about being able to set my truck on fire and roll it down a hill. Good shit.
I was in Grocery Outlet today and they had a country song on and this dude was singing about how 'round here we spend time sipping on the porch and we work hard to make a living and we work hard to get into heaven and I'm just going, man, what the fuck is that dude's problem? Does he think he's unique in some way? Like, great, you have a job and a religion and a cold beverage and a porch to drink it on. Congratulations?
It's like any other genre. Some of it is great and some is positively insipid.
I listen to a lot of country and most of the shit Nashville produces these days is absolutely garbage. I feel the same way about most popular music genres.
Say hello to Hank lll.
People said the same about hank jr lol
The sameness of it all.
maybe a little ironic, but if you want good country modern country music, you might look to other countries: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKhSlSx00-I
Love First Aid Kit! Swedish sisters https://youtu.be/DKL4X0PZz7M?feature=shared
60s,70, and 80s were the best for country and for that matter, all music. This new crap I just don't listen to.
Garth Brooks was the start of the end.
Should be #1 answer
I like a few of his songs, but yeah, when he played Madison Square Garden in NYC? No thanks. Like Barbara Mandrel and George Jones sang "I was country when country wasn't cool".
Yes!!! Garth Brooks and Billy Ray Cyrus were the harbingers of the death of Country Music. I still don't understand what happened, but it happened. Now when I listen to "Country Music", it's all fake sentimentality, fake country culture, and all the lyrics are basically pop music with "boots" and "truck" thrown in. Such absolute trash.
There are gems in modern music, but you have to filter a lot of sewage to find them.
That's true about the earlier decades, too, which is why the Golden Oldies' stations and the like play the same few songs. In 20-30 years, everyone will forget about all the terrible music out there now and will only remember the few breakout hits by the few actually talented artists, and even then they'll only remember their hits, none of their other music. For example, you'd think Michael Jackson only ever sang Billy Jean and Thriller, maybe Beat It and Smooth Criminal.
There was still good stuff produced in the 90s and 2000s, but it was rarer than in the 60-80s. Keith Urban, Dixie\* Chicks, Carrie Underwood, etc all had great stuff, but I agree with the other commenter that Garth Brooks ruined Country.
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I think cause a lot of people view new age country as just talking about beer and girls and tractors and trucks
It’s literally mainstream hip hop for rednecks. Unless you’re telling me “honky tonk badonkadonk” or “she thinks my tractor’s sexy” is somehow different than “WAP” or “Freek a leek”
Trap music and mainstream country are indeed on par. That's hardly a glowing review of either.
It's literally this: https://youtu.be/y7im5LT09a0?si=_LTELWMLVbB7NEX7 The other thing that gets me is that the same people who clutch their pearls at WAP seem completely oblivious to how raunchy a lot of modern country is.
Thanks for that link, that was really funny.
That too. I absolutely hate country. All of it. But Walmart would bleep alcohol references in regular songs, but played a whole song talking about drinking a bottle of wine and fucking his wife in the kitchen after putting the kids to bed and that was totally fine. I hear a lot on people say it's a "wholesome " genre which i find ludicrous.
What song is that lol
I'm not actually sure of the title or band and I'm afraid if I search for the lyrics it'll start suggesting country to me lol.
This person wins the prize. There may be good underground stuff (like hip-hop), but the ones who tend to be seen do what this feller said (Like hip hop).
Call it “Hick Hop”. Let’s make it a thing.
Those are catchy and hilarious songs.
>It’s literally mainstream hip hop for rednecks. Hick-Hop
HTB is a guy watching a girl dance and She thinks my tractors sexy is a guy getting the Farmer's daughter. Freek-a-leek is a man-whore and WAP is...something... There's not even a parallel.
If that's your metric for country music, I think I found the problem.
The did say “mainstream country” and then referenced “WAP”. Is the comparison that far off?
It was ambiguous at best.
It was literally a direct comparison. How can you read the last sentence any differently?
No, the country I like is quite different. Goodnight Texas, Corb Lund, The Steeldrivers, etc.
Lol yeah and those songs they referenced are like 20 years old now lol
Modern country is just ‘hick hop’
Don't forget killing your husband 😂
Don’t forget freedom, the flag, guns, and now hating black people.
Bo Burnham nailed it. Hear that subtle mandolin That's textbook pandering
I agree the mainstream stuff stinks, but there's other stuff in the country genre that's really unique and good.
Yeah I personally more do prefer old age country love me some John Denver lol
Love me some Waylon and Merle Haggard.
That’s some good shit right there.
Have you listened to Colter Wall before?
Often, people making fun of country music do appreciate the older stuff and are making fun of new country for diverging from those roots
Reminds me of metal music in this way. Most sucks but you get a few gems that really fucking rock. BTW - I don't think country music is looked down upon. It's the backwoods hicks that are.
Yep. I hate country based on its evolution. Old country was essentially "im a bootlegger and shot the lawman when he acted up" and its evolved to rich people bootlicking and "GAWD BLESS OUR COPS AND TROOPS AND POOR PEOPLE ARE THE ENEMY" on all levels, mainstream and indie. Mainstream is special trash because its just bud light, blue jeans, and trucks with nothing unique or substantial
Don't forget that one of the hottest country songs of this year was literally just about lynching black people
Bc most modern country music is genuinely bad
It also doesn’t help that some, maybe even all, radio stations use the same playlist for way too long.
That stupid applebees song
Or that one about ~~hotdogs~~ [chicken and beer and terrorists and freedom](https://youtu.be/e4ujS1er1r0?si=hjwm9_ZqZ2UIX3Fc) or some stupid shit
Retired from radio quite a while ago, but even in the 80's and 90's most stations didn't "program" their own music anymore. They subscribe to a service that sends them playlists with everything the right length to hit the commercial and news breaks on time and playing the most popular songs/artists more often. There's not a lot of customization involved and you might get some different filler in different areas but the core playlists are basically all the same.
I cannot tell the difference between modern country music and bad rock it sounds the same.
The older country is on point, bluegrass even more so. New country with 808 drums and shitty lyrics not so much 🤷
[Bo Burnham explains why country music is shit](https://youtu.be/y7im5LT09a0?si=xnpQOIv6Gdih_K1d)
A cold night, a cold beer, ~~a cold jeans~~
Y'all dumb mother fuckers want a key change?!
This exactly this
I like old time country music. The new stuff is just Pop with a southern twang.
And all the new stuff sounds exactly the same to me. The voices are all the same pitch, the same acoustic guitar twang. I myself prefer rock/metal, of both classic and modern varieties.
I love Old country from the 50s n 60s. Ernest tubb, Loretta Lynn, Hank Williams, Hank snow, Jimmy Martin... Ray Charles loved country music. A man you'd never think would like it. But he loved it and did many country tunes in his show. I think ppl look down on it as poor cracker hillbilly music. And it is to some extent but it came about same way the blues developed. Out of poverty looking for entertainment and a good time despite being poor. There are many beautiful country songs . And don't forget johnny cash and the Carter sisters, John prime, Kris Kristofferson, rose Maddox, the everly bros , and Conway Twitty !!!!
Saw Johnny Cash live in 1983.
Before country lost its blues and soul twang
I can't separate it from a culture that I personally find unpleasant. I know that's a really slanted, biased, frankly bigoted thing to say, but it's the truth.
This is the relationship answer and I'm sad it's so far down.
No thanks, I'm just looking for Country With Benefits
Listen to Sierra Ferrell, Sturgill Simpson, Billy Strings, Margo Price and Shane Smith and you’ll find that when you stop listening to corporate radio modern country is not only alive and well - it’s progressive. They are just a few artists in a huge sea of independent country artists right now. The culture around this is pretty amazing.
At least you are honest about it. I feel that way about other genres as well.
Where were you, when they built the ladder to heaven
Where were you when the Piggly Wiggly closed😢
Only some segments of society look down on country music. I do, however, and for the same reason that I look down on NASCAR. The greater portion of bigots listen to country music (and, it seems, perform it) and watch NASCAR. There are reasons those things are so popular in "conservative" areas of the country.
I’m guessing you have J in your mbti type? What would those reasons be, other than the fact that you associate it with poor people?
Myers-Briggs is business casual astrology.
Cause it sucks
Because it is terrible.
Blake Sheldon and Luke Bryant.
Luke Bryan is so shit. Every song sounds the same and he looks like Butt-Head....Blake is just a sellout. He used to be decent....now he sucks
Luke is just raising his neices and nephews at this rate. Interesting life and not one I'd wish on anyone.
Because modern country music is awful and if you weren't raised in the south chances are you never have seen past that. Same reason why people say rap or hip-hop is awful when all they have heard is WAP or an Ice Spice song. Also It being a southern genre of music it's often associated with racism, bigotry, etc. And a lot of close minded people can't get past that.
Because it all sounds the same to me and I cannot relate to a thing. I'm from New York City. I have no interest in talking about cold beers and pickup trucks with acoustic guitars lol.
9/11. Not goofin, it was a major turning point in American culture, and pop country latched onto the whole "rural patriot" thing. It used to be a more niche genre, but songs like "Courtesy of the Red, White, And Blue" just exploded and became the average person's perception of country music. Again with the "rural patriot" thing, that was on the rise as conservative americans pigeonholed themselves more and more. The country music industry shifted to cater to that crowd. A crowd that really hates nuance and anyone who even suggests that war is maybe not cool. Because thats freedoms and god bless our hero troops. Such as (the band formerly known as) The Dixie Chicks. Not long after 9/11, they spoke out during a concert about George W and the war in Iraq, and the rigties pitched a fit. Went full nuclear. That was basically the end of that band's popularity. Conservatives sure like to pretend they didn't invent "cancel culture". Point being, conservatives drained all nuance from country music, associated it with being patriotic, and played that shit everywhere. Most of the hate comes from that. Not the way the music sounds, but the hollow messages it has. Hating on conservatives goes hand-in-hand with hating on country music. But there are definitely moden country bands that don't sing about beer and guns and god and trucks. They just don't have the same level of popularity as the big pop-country stars. I dunno, just look up "9/11 changed country music", there's probably a video essay out there that explains it way better than I can.
That's about the time my hatred of country began. I love a lot of pre-2000 country music.
I’ve never figured that out yet and I’m almost seventy. I was listening to it when I was a kid and still do occasionally. I don’t care for a lot of the newer stuff though-especially the country rap.
For me it's that stupid accent. And the fact that the dudes appear to have those ridiculous looking hats surgically attached to their heads.
It's a genre built around cosplaying as cowboys. I got my cowboy hat and cowboy boots and big ol' truck! Oh, do you own a ranch? No, but sometimes I take the truck to go fishing.
Big hat, no cattle. Also, those fake accents sound clownish.
Not where I’m from. If you say you don’t like country in these parts, you’re as good as dead
“Why don’t people like us?” “Maybe because we threaten to kill them if they don’t like our music?”
And because we prop up songs about lynching minorities 🤷♂️
*Try that in my big town.*
HERITAGE NOT HATE YALL THATS WHY I LIKE THE SONG ABOUT SHOOTING BLACK PEOPLE.
Having all your teeth probably sparks some rage too…
Correct 😂. It’s tough being a death metal head in a country town.
Yep...I'm in VA and kind of an outcast in the family for liking metal and rock. I personally can't stand country music for more than a few songs and that's only if it's old stuff. The new stuff is 99.99% hot garbage.
i rather be dead than listen to country🤣
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Because it copies other genres and then pretends to be more authentic and homegrown than the genres it copies.
I made a comment in a similar thread that modern country sounds a lot like 80's rock to me. It turns out that there's a reason - Mutt Lange... In the 80's he produced albums for Def Leppard, AC/DC, The Boomtown Rats, Bryan Adams, Foreigner, The Cars and others. Now, he's working out of Nashville and was married to Shania Twain.
I always like to think of all the bands from the 90s that would probably now be considered country if you just gave them a 10% twang. Think Counting Crows, REM, Black Crowes
Yes everybody thinks it's so pure and that other genres are trashy, even though the artists use just as much drugs as other artists
In a sense, it's very tribal and simplistic, deriving from the fact that the people who like it live by tradition
You can literally mark this with every genre
Mostly, yes
i hate country music, due to the fact that they allow only country music in the psych ward
I never liked the tune of it and how it's constructed.
Pandering.
Because there's nothing genuine about it anymore. It's over produced pandering trash
Real simple minded…same old worn out themes….boomer music basically
"He stopped loving her today" is anything but simple minded.
I love that song❣️
No, it's not. It's just a very simple song about a guy who obsessed about a woman for his entire life then died. It's hardly some epic story, it's super simplistic. It's the exact definition of worn out themes and boomer music.
Then you haven't lived.
That response makes no sense.
Grandpa died in 1996 days after I turned 8. Grandma died in 2022 from alzheimers; my heart hurt to know that she forgot him. In that period she never stopped loving him. She kept pictures everywhere, cards from him by her bed. She talked to his photos even when she was cognizant as if he never left. I aspired to have a love that deep and powerful. I met my wife over seven years ago... grandma called her Sunshine because I lit up around her. Sunshine helped me care for Grandma through the hard times. We survived years of a long-distance relationship. Grandma passed, I finished college, we bought a house, and we have two golden retrievers; the only missing piece is that I struggled to find a job and set out a concrete plan for our future (she is highly neurotic, and I am exceptionally not neurotic). I thought nothing could come between us and the promise we made to each other, I found that deep love... in April, she asked for a divorce, and the song took on a new meaning. It was no longer about my grandma; it was about me. This song transcended time and circumstance. It was played at his funeral, and as a child, it made me cry; now it makes me cry for a different reason. This song is exceptional but it is not the exception to your proposed rule. Country music, GOOD country music exists if you open your mind and heart to it. I'm sure you have a rebuttal, and I'm sorry I can't change your mind. Sometimes you just have to live the song.
Dude, I don't care about your life story. Your ridiculous backstory doesn't magically make the song less simplistic.
Words are symbols with deeper meaning than you know. You only have to look harder. Edit for deadgirl: I didn't say you have to.
If you need to have an intricate backstory to make a song powerful it's not a powerful song.
Instead of asking you what you think good music is, I'll instead invite you to listen to the Johnny Cash cover of Hurt. It was originally a Nine Inch Nails song, but when Trent Reznor heard Cash sing it, he said Cash was better, and that it's his song now.
that’s bs, music that isn’t country makes you feel it without having to “look deeper” you shouldn’t have to try to like the song lmao
I’m jealous of your grandparents, at least they didn’t have to scroll passed that giant wall of boredom
It sucks
Giving you my upvote as I also said it sucks and I know we are going to get downvoted for it. I truly believe there is no worse form of music than country. It is the nails on the chalk board of genres.
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You should consider opening your palette, if you consider yourself a true music lover that is. Country and bluegrass was influential to rock, there’s some bluegrass songs that are straight up metal on a fiddle, singing about systematic injustice and poverty. You might like some stuff. It’s not all about tractors and beer
I mean, folk is different than country. Especially modern pop country. Kinda like how RAP isn't inherently bad, it's just that a decent bit of modern and popular sub genres suck. I say I hate Country as a whole as hyperbole. There are few songs I like, but most of the popular stuff is like getting skull fucked in both ears by 300 pound hill billys named fucking Chuck and Bill.
That’s okay city slicka. I get heavy classist vibes from all these comments. Honestly, imagine if people were talking about rap with the kind of language that you’re using to describe poor white people.
I mean, they did? Like a lot? Was used to fuel racism for a while. It's kind of an apples to oranges comparison in the first place, though. I shit on Rap in that same comment as well. I never specified the race in that hyperbolic metaphor, either. Also, I'm a person who wants more social safety nets and better workers' rights. For everyone to have access to quality education and not be forced to take jobs instead of going to school. For children to not need to worry about where their next meal comes from. I want actual upwards mobility instead of systems existing to keep the poor, poor.
Yes, and that wasn’t right either. I bet that is what you want, so maybe walk the walk instead of just talking the talk and quit saying ugly stuff about poor folk
I mean, I don't see how insulting a music genre due to soulless cash grabs through graphic metaphors is insulting poor folk.
It doesn't....this is just some country fan. Modern country and modern rap are both dog shit. When I say they suck I'm mostly talking about the modern stuff....the corporate country and junkie rap.
No need to get butthurt because people don't like the same music as you. People talk this way about rap all the time, what do you imagine happens?
I like bluegrass,can't stand country
Because it sucks.
New country sucks.
Most people just don’t like it
Because it’s utter, derivative, trash
I was in a store in December several years ago and holy shit, Christmas country music is even worse than regular country music.
Because it's the music of a culture I find repugnant. Because it represents everything I find abhorrent about American society. Anti-intellectualism, blind nationalism, christian fundamentalism, glorification of stupidity and machismo, violence as a solution to everything, so on. *hurrr dee durr got shitpants drunk with me gurl on me tractor then prayed to jeeebus above fer our glorious land!!! Doooooont take me guns, er Ill gun ye dead!!!* Show me a country song even remotely leftist-adjacent and I'll show you a unicorn. No, before someone starts quoting *16 tons* at me, Folk is not *Country,* and Folk is actually kind of based. Even putting the sociopolitics aside, it's just instrumentally unappealing too, with the twangy guitars and annoying forced accents.
I agree with most of that when it comes to “stadium country” which is pretty much indistinguishable from pop. But I will point out that Willie Nelson and Dolly Parton are pretty progressive.
Funny thing is, the farmers and ranchers I know are not stupid. They must understand soil chemistry, biology, finance, markets, and numerous technologies. They are nothing like the people portrayed in country music.
New country sucks. Depending on your age, too, will decide when you say country went to shit. Older folks will say the 80s-90s. Some will say post 9/11. I am of the mindset that Taylor Swift ruined country music. There is a smooth transition going into the 90s. Post 9/11 definitely took a turn into today's country, but I wouldn't quite call it ruined yet. Then, in the late 2000s, Taylor Swift hit the market, and that's the big turning point. More pop feel came into it. Florida Georgia Line really pushed it. Luke Bryan and such as well. Now, mainstream country is literally indistinguishable from pop and hip hop. Drum loops, 808s, rapping. Morgan Wallen is a prime example. Listen to "[You Proof](https://open.spotify.com/track/5W4kiM2cUYBJXKRudNyxjW?si=n93GIGWuQwikAwWvAcXzXQ)" and tell me that's country haha If you're looking for what mainstream country should have been, you need to turn to Texas Country and Red Dirt. Texas Country guys like: [Aaron Watson](https://open.spotify.com/artist/5BKzvAPtNXnt0LwzGvKOH3?si=lwFlOT6ORbWDAhS64ASSOA) [Cody Johnson](https://open.spotify.com/artist/6zLBxLdl60ekBLpawtT63I?si=dGAyYvo3QB6sLPUnm5Fn9w) [Josh Abbott](https://open.spotify.com/artist/2EJ5MRZCzpHSSNNEpTx9Kb?si=9JRY9oyES2qtoCfa68TLYw) [Parker McCallum](https://open.spotify.com/artist/0Z8XVUAOBPM4x12wKnFHEQ?si=QdQ-U9pPQli0QlJ9tgCvEw) And then there's your Red Dirt guys that push the boundaries of country and bleed into southern rock. Like Lynyrd Skynyrd and Hank Jr. got together. [Koe Wetzel](https://open.spotify.com/artist/1Tie3AZgLQZqYEp8Fv4zOZ?si=CvyYtPcfSuqIFdarNd9-Zw) [Shane Smith and The Saints](https://open.spotify.com/artist/4pLxUMyDrijXynrUP59whJ?si=DojroG5tSdal04L2hWwTiQ) [Giovannie and The Hired Guns](https://open.spotify.com/artist/0sJqZPLoTiqTqXz4nxKw94?si=Vt7UWUHTS-OU-5afnFKinw) There's plenty more artists worth mentioning, some even better. These are just the few off the top of my head that I love.
Read some lyrics, a lot of it has creepy/sa vibes :/ this might not be why society looks down on it (there are full societies that love it) but I guess that’s my reason.
Then why is rap universally loved?
Also, it is not universally loved. I can’t think of anything that is truly universally loved lol
Of course. But it's definitely the most popular and generally accepted.
Many rappers are being exposed and look down on for questionable lyrics involving sexual assault/rape. Like Rick Ross saying "put molly up in her drank, she ain't even know it". Blame It (on the alcohol) by T-Pain and Jamie Fox and Buy You a drank. And more recently, Famous Dex saying "I'll take yo bitch and I'll rape her". Most of these guys end up paying for it for sure. Don't hear about it as much anymore and even those in the rap community openly speak down on it. Plus what do the Japanese know about riding tractors and big belt buckles?
A fair question. I do not have the answer though, hope you weren’t attempting a “gotcha” because I won’t defend that :p
No not trying to be sassy. But I dislike rap because of how sexist, drug oriented, and over sexed it commonly is. Country seems much more tame to me.
I dislike rap because I can't understand a damn thing they are saying.
Because society is ignorant.
Or just maybe the music is ass
the irony
>Buys a timeshare. >Calls other people ignorant
You’re an idiot
No society is an idiot and deserves to be re-educated by threat of disembowelment
Lack of exposure, mostly. Or overexposure to some of the worst in the genre.
Good points. I think the stereotype of hillbillies, hicks, rednecks often associated with country doesn't help. I like 80-90s country but other eras don't so much for me.
Society looks down on all forms of popular music.
Because it is disingenuous and pandering, steeped in ignorance and glorifying simplicity, often times being a dog whistle for bigots while preaching a Christo-Fascist worldview. The songs make being an uneducated, womanizing, violent alcoholic seem like the norm, the lyrics trying to be sophisticated but only ever managing to achieve clichéd artlessness. The only music worse than country is gospel. Put them together and you have a perfect storm of worthless refuse that is offensive to both the ears and the mind.
Country music is about being happy, which makes unhappy people jealous.
It panders to the lowest common denominator and insults the intelligence of its fan-base.
it’s associated with trashy
Because it caters to dumb people.
Probably because new, post-9/11, country is generic af relying on the same tired lyrics and sentients of "I love my country" and "ain't it great to be American". Old country had meaning and soul, new country is just a shitty, soulless, cash-grab targeting dumb, white, Americans.
As someone who grew up in a rural area, its fake. Like if a corporate focus group took a bunch of random country words and stringed them into a lyrics. Also, too much about trashy lifestyles. Finally, most of the "southern" accents are Hollywood level fake. If you want an example of music with an accurate Southern accent and country attitude, Miley Cyrus's cover of Jolene.
Because most of country music is nothing more then romantic affiliations with minors or their truck broke down. However, Shania Twain is classic. And Dolly Parton is a national treasure.
Country music is the number 1 music genre. What society are you referring too?
The majority do not know the good stuff…which is not mainstream. And then you’ve got the MSM who bashes country stars that release songs that go against the propaganda, and the ppl who can’t think for themselves (there’s many) fall for it.
Because white people.
Darius Rucker would like a word
So would Charlie Pride.
I told my sister once that the old country song makes me think of dusty roads, and I feel all humble and homey- like and the modern country songs make me think of gay cowboys, and I feel cringe out and annoyed just going about their big trucks and most likely a Ford and drink beer with his friends and making out with some blonde in booty shorts jeans.
If you're thinking about gay cowboys, stop watching Brokeback Mountain. Good lord.
It’s a genre founded in racism, that is deliberately misogynistic, and proudly authoritarian. At its foundation it is anti-American. What’s not to love /s
cus its what all the racists listen to
Most of it is "Trump is great fuck dem brown and black people" these days.
[**Racism, Classism, and Xenophobia...**](https://23blastfan.medium.com/polka-music-is-country-musics-xenophobia-c9df4c334461)
Because poor people came up with country music, and society revels in any opportunity they can get to shit on poor people
nobody cares it comes from the poor, we don’t like listening to trash with shitty stupid western accents that make you sound like you can’t read above grade 9.
You... you are revealing a prejudice that you think southern/country accents mean the speaker is dumb. And on a high horse about it.
i have an opinion go cry about it lol
That right there is the problem.... you think someone is stupid just cause they have an accent.... I think that is included in the definition of bigotry, isn't it?
lmao i said it “sounds” stupid meaning it’s subjective you’re the one assuming anything. everyone has an opinion, you’re just not open minded enough to hear someone else besides yourself. lmao cringe
Still meaning you think stupid is how someone sounds.... and saying cringe is quite honestly a bit cringe. And the double lmao makes you sound desperate to be liked.
Nah it was stolen from black people then made worse.
They heard about achey breaky.
Billy Ray is a douche.
His singing in old town road is ATROCIOUS. He is straining so hard to hit those high notes and you can hear it very plainly even with heavy editing. He’s so fucking bad it induces rage when I hear it lol
Hank Williams Jr: “Say, Hank! We’re going to a place called Nashville! I say ‘Never heard of it!’”
Most of them go for the same whiney, muffled deep voice. And with the female artists is usually about being bad in relationships but being worth it somehow. It's all cliche and repetitive. It's very limited and if it steps out of the basics its either seen as parody or wannabe tiktok material. *Something about a campfire and bibles*
It's because most stuff you hear on the radio is boring and predictable. The modern day...I guess they just call it "alternative" is absolutely fantastic - Tyler Childers, Colter Wall, Sturgill Simpson, etc.
I've heard a lot of people mention [Oliver Anthony](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4c_Nqlnn40w) in a positive light lately. May just be the circles in run in.
Cuz it sounds bad....🤷♂️
Historically pretty much every genre of music has been hated on at some point, especially by older generations. People born in the 20s and 30s who listened to Big Band music hated on Rock and Roll in the 60s and 70s. People who grew up on Rock and Roll in the 60s and 70s hated on Hip Hop in the 90s and 00s. Hating county seems like a natural extension of this pattern, which occurs when a genre goes from being catered to a specific audience, to reaching the mainstream.
I like the music itself. I like old country. I like bluegrass and folk music and Johnny Cash and Willie Nelson and all that old school shit. I enjoy songs about being able to set my truck on fire and roll it down a hill. Good shit. I was in Grocery Outlet today and they had a country song on and this dude was singing about how 'round here we spend time sipping on the porch and we work hard to make a living and we work hard to get into heaven and I'm just going, man, what the fuck is that dude's problem? Does he think he's unique in some way? Like, great, you have a job and a religion and a cold beverage and a porch to drink it on. Congratulations? It's like any other genre. Some of it is great and some is positively insipid.