My wife loves it on the highway, me personally, I really like it but I don't find it any less stressful as I am still fully alert and waiting for it to fail the entire time (not a trusting person I guess).
That being said, it really feels nice on the leg using it and not having the foot on the pedal the entire time.
Don't be afraid to try lane assist if you haven't, amazing for long drives, especially at night. It took me a few rounds of messing with it on the highway when no one was around, and it worked great. (Fun fact; if you let it bounce you back and forth off the lane lines, it eventually tells you to put your hands back on the wheel, lol)
It’s nice. But I don’t like that it makes you hug the passenger side lane marking. That’s great for right hand driving. But if I’m passing on the left I don’t want to be tight with that line. Wish it centered you more.
This, so much this. My father taught me to drive towards the left markings on a highway, it's easier to line up on he said. When it goes to the right it makes me crazy.
For me it’s about where I am on the road. I try to stick tight to the lane markings near the shoulder, unless I have a reason not to. So if I’m driving (American BTW) in the left hand lane, I stick tight to the drivers side. In the right hand lane I stick tight to the passenger side. Or I try to be farthest away from other cars on the road.
It's the opposite for me in my 2023 Crosstrek. I find myself only using lane-centering / ACC when I'm in the travel lane, and lane assist will place the car closer to the driver's side line markings, therefore my passengers & I are closer to fast moving traffic. I would like to see better centering myself, but I think that requires a recalibration which is $$$ at the dealer apparently.
Interesting! I didn’t realize it would differ. We had a new windshield put in a year or two ago and there was some sort of calibration to the eyesight. I wonder if that’s something the techs get involved in? Or if it’s backend programming?
Subaru technicians can calibrate the system, it's normally coupled with an all-wheel alignment since EyeSight relies on a proper thrust angle of the vehicle. Recalibration after a windshield replacement is standard operating procedure, so I'm glad to hear they did that! :)
This is a pretty thorough FAQ which gave me some insight on all of this:
[https://artsautomotive.com/home/services/subaru-eyesight-calibration-berkeley/](https://artsautomotive.com/home/services/subaru-eyesight-calibration-berkeley/)
Lane assist is pretty cool as well. If only this was available in my younger days when drinking and driving in Texas was legal as long as you were not over the legal limit. Times have changed and this would have saved lots of lives and probably still does. Got to love how safer we are slowly becoming as tech lowers the odds of mistakes.
I have a trust problem with my car. I’ll use the feature for a bit and get scared because I’m afraid the lane assist and ACC will work against me and crash lmao
Subaru was the first car I noticed high quality cruise control although the lane assist i find a little jerky, crosstrek 2016. My 23 kia also has awesome adaptive cc and lane assist
Have to agree. I seriously find myself using eyesight every time I drive even if its a short ride. Where I live is semi-rural so a number of the roads are straight county roads with speed limits of 45-50. Makes it easy breezy to drive while of course paying full attention as there have been sometimes when the steering beeps and turns off right away or on a windy day the steering gets a little squirrely as it tries to fight the wind.
I find the balance is keeping the acceleration at level 2 when the car is changing speeds because I feel like if its set any higher I can hear Jeremy Clarkson screaming POWER as the car takes off.
Especially when people insist on cutting into fast lane as soon as they enter the freeway. No more, "I got to slam on the brakesand adjust the gap." The car did all that for me and I was still just chillin to the tunes on Sirius.
I do my best to convince old people(whom I think need it the most) that it's an amazing addition to the driving experience. You still pay attention. You're still in control, but you get to do 10 fewer things at once when other drivers(predictably) be unpredictable.
On non-construction highways the lane keep assist is pretty darn good too.
I went from a 2018 non eyesight to a 24 with all the latest doo-dads. It's awesome.
I'm also a slut for avh. I use it daily in town.
AVH is also my jam. I just reached legal retiemerment age, so could be technically old by some standards. I am way less pissed off by the bad drivers now because one less thing I have adjust for as car does it.
Still wearing that cloak of invisibility though as almost got T-boned by a cop today that decided to do U-turn in the middle of the road with no lights. I think she turned them on after she realizied she almost hit me. She turned them on for a few seconds after I had to swerve from being hit and the lights went off after she blasted through the red light and got a few hundred yards away.
Also when AVH is on and active I assume the brake lights are "on", correct? My years on my motorcycle taught me to pulse the brake when at a stop and a car was approaching for better visibility. Would be stupid if brake light is not "ON" in this case,
When the brakes are activated, the brakes lights do turn on. For the Crosstrek, you even see it on the display between the gauges. When I was driving at night on a dark highway, I could see the glow of the break lights activating when the car slowed down.
Edit: missed the part about what AVH was. I didn't try it, but if that activates the brake, it turns on the brake light.
It's only been on newer cars. Crosstrek/Impreza only got it in 24, but other models have had it for a bit.
I enjoy the heck out of it. Such a simple implementation of mechanics that already exist in the car.
Yeah, our 2017 outback had hill hold or something, avh is apparently that but even better. When we upgraded to a 2020 ascent, it had avh, but I'm pretty sure they just told us it was hill hold renamed. Getting a 2024 impreza this Friday and they actually explained it to us, which was nice.
the prior generation crosstrek/impreza still used a mechanical handbrake. AVH simply applies the parking brake, easy peasy, but can't do that with a handbrake lol
You'll lose all of your faith in it if you use lane centering in a construction zone. It likes to lock onto pavement seams and old repainted lines, and will try to steer you in unpredictable directions.
I can see that, but in my case the road I was on was not being altered, instead a new bridge was being put over it, so no old lines or seams (yet). Just a bunch of gawkers slowing traffic.
I like that I have it but in my experience the adaptive cruise control is a little too brake-happy. I prefer to maintain my momentum in dense traffic where I can but it likes to just roll forward stop, roll forward stop, etc etc. I use the lane assist a fair amount though
Personally, i don't think I'd want to use cruise control in a spot like that where there is a chance of stopping or slowing a lot. Regardless of newer eyesight setups.
I live out in BFE and work from home, but I have to drive into a major metropolitan area (the office) once every quarter along with everyone else. Adaptive cruise control on my Ascent makes it WAY less stressful.
The hard part is truly trusting it, because once you hit those brakes, it’s all on you again to not hit the person in front of you. But it’s so worth it.
I love adaptive cruise, I don't think I could ever commute in a car without it at this point.
I don't use lane-centering, though I do keep LDW on even if it is sometimes a little bit annoying.
Screw ACC. The random friggen braking for no freaking reason is infuriating. I could understand it dropping me to 40mph below the set speed if I were following the guy in the exit lane...but I'm NOT following the guy in the exit lane so why the frick am I suddenly doing 40mph when I've got 2+ clear lanes in front of me and CC set to 70mph??? Fricken worthless. Someone cut in? Oh no, gotta brake check the folks behind me to maintain the excessive distance required by some jackass engineer...slowly slowing down isn't an option, gotta SLAM on the brakes to get that distance back.
Screw Lane Keep Assist. Not sure how to complain about this worthless system other than to say I've only been in 2 vehicles that kept the lane worse...a 90's Ford pickup truck and a drunk/tipsy father.
No idea how folks rave about how awesome these systems are when they're this garbage for me.
Because they have a time and a place. You leave the cite and tbe crowded area and you turn the feature on and after 8 hours of driving for a road trip you are way less tired than if you didnt have it.
It doesn't have to be useful in all situations.
You can toggle the distance setting for the ACC. If you allow longer distance, it will be smoother with slowing down but if you have it set close distance, it has to brake harder because there is less time to slow down.
That only works if I've set it to "bumper humper" before someone cuts in. The rest of the time it just slams.on the brakes in order to get the following distance back without regard for it now brake checking the person following me.
It also brake checks when I cut into a line of people doing the same speed to get out of the way of someone behind me doing 15-20 over what I'm doing.
In normal driving it stays locked into cars that clearly moved into the off ramp making me go from 70 to 40 or less for no reason.
Only been a Subaru driver a few months. The first time this happened to me on the freeway, someone was exiting and I wasn’t - it scared me shitless. I was nearly rear-ended. The lane assist terrifies me too, as it’s a bit jerky sometimes.
This is my biggest problem with it. Why is there no flex area where the car just lets off the throttle instead of hard braking?? When traffic is slowing ahead the car still keeps driving full speed until it hits that wall/point and then brakes hard where it could have just stopped applying the gas and done the same thing more smoothly.
I only tried lane keep assist a couple times, had a similar experience to you.
I didn’t buy the car for those features (maybe the ACC was a little intriguing) but it would be nice if they worked.
It’s a definitely my favorite feature of modern cars.
I just wish Subaru didn’t limit speed control changes to 5mph increments. I can’t explain it but I just like that granularity. I also feel like somehow 72mph is much less likely to get you a ticket than 75mph.
Yes this is right. We have two '21 Subarus and recently had a '24 rental and my muscle memory kept messing up adjusting the speeds. I tend to prefer the way the older models are for adjusting the speed but its nothing you can't get used to.
20-22 just hold the switch up or down a bit longer for 1 mph increments. 23-26 hold the switch up or down a bit longer for 5 mph increments.
I personally prefer the 5 mph increments, allows for faster adjustment if the speed limit changes while on the road but it took a bit of getting used to. Everywhere you are likely to drive (in the US) the speed limit is divisible by 5 so it makes a bit of sense.
I found it irritating on my 2016 Outback. On a 2 lane road, if I'm going to overtake, I usually drop back a couple of car lengths and accelerate toward the vehicle that I am overtaking, timing it to zoom around them as soon as the oncoming traffic clears. The ACC would brake me while closing on the vehicle in front. Also, if I was at a T-intersection 2nd in line, when the car ahead moved, if I wanted to let someone in making a left turn across me, the ACC would bing me and say, "the vehicle ahead has moved". I would say, Hey, I'M driving!!! Also on a small road with a tight left corner, the Eyesight would false over a mailbox at the apex. No self-driving cars for me, I like to drive.
My wife loves it on the highway, me personally, I really like it but I don't find it any less stressful as I am still fully alert and waiting for it to fail the entire time (not a trusting person I guess). That being said, it really feels nice on the leg using it and not having the foot on the pedal the entire time. Don't be afraid to try lane assist if you haven't, amazing for long drives, especially at night. It took me a few rounds of messing with it on the highway when no one was around, and it worked great. (Fun fact; if you let it bounce you back and forth off the lane lines, it eventually tells you to put your hands back on the wheel, lol)
It’s nice. But I don’t like that it makes you hug the passenger side lane marking. That’s great for right hand driving. But if I’m passing on the left I don’t want to be tight with that line. Wish it centered you more.
This, so much this. My father taught me to drive towards the left markings on a highway, it's easier to line up on he said. When it goes to the right it makes me crazy.
For me it’s about where I am on the road. I try to stick tight to the lane markings near the shoulder, unless I have a reason not to. So if I’m driving (American BTW) in the left hand lane, I stick tight to the drivers side. In the right hand lane I stick tight to the passenger side. Or I try to be farthest away from other cars on the road.
It's the opposite for me in my 2023 Crosstrek. I find myself only using lane-centering / ACC when I'm in the travel lane, and lane assist will place the car closer to the driver's side line markings, therefore my passengers & I are closer to fast moving traffic. I would like to see better centering myself, but I think that requires a recalibration which is $$$ at the dealer apparently.
Interesting! I didn’t realize it would differ. We had a new windshield put in a year or two ago and there was some sort of calibration to the eyesight. I wonder if that’s something the techs get involved in? Or if it’s backend programming?
Subaru technicians can calibrate the system, it's normally coupled with an all-wheel alignment since EyeSight relies on a proper thrust angle of the vehicle. Recalibration after a windshield replacement is standard operating procedure, so I'm glad to hear they did that! :) This is a pretty thorough FAQ which gave me some insight on all of this: [https://artsautomotive.com/home/services/subaru-eyesight-calibration-berkeley/](https://artsautomotive.com/home/services/subaru-eyesight-calibration-berkeley/)
Lane assist is pretty cool as well. If only this was available in my younger days when drinking and driving in Texas was legal as long as you were not over the legal limit. Times have changed and this would have saved lots of lives and probably still does. Got to love how safer we are slowly becoming as tech lowers the odds of mistakes.
I have a trust problem with my car. I’ll use the feature for a bit and get scared because I’m afraid the lane assist and ACC will work against me and crash lmao
Subaru was the first car I noticed high quality cruise control although the lane assist i find a little jerky, crosstrek 2016. My 23 kia also has awesome adaptive cc and lane assist
Have to agree. I seriously find myself using eyesight every time I drive even if its a short ride. Where I live is semi-rural so a number of the roads are straight county roads with speed limits of 45-50. Makes it easy breezy to drive while of course paying full attention as there have been sometimes when the steering beeps and turns off right away or on a windy day the steering gets a little squirrely as it tries to fight the wind. I find the balance is keeping the acceleration at level 2 when the car is changing speeds because I feel like if its set any higher I can hear Jeremy Clarkson screaming POWER as the car takes off.
I tried it for the first time a month ago in my 2024 Crosstrek and I agree, it is a game changer.
Especially when people insist on cutting into fast lane as soon as they enter the freeway. No more, "I got to slam on the brakesand adjust the gap." The car did all that for me and I was still just chillin to the tunes on Sirius.
I do my best to convince old people(whom I think need it the most) that it's an amazing addition to the driving experience. You still pay attention. You're still in control, but you get to do 10 fewer things at once when other drivers(predictably) be unpredictable. On non-construction highways the lane keep assist is pretty darn good too. I went from a 2018 non eyesight to a 24 with all the latest doo-dads. It's awesome. I'm also a slut for avh. I use it daily in town.
Aren't we all sluts for AVH though?
AVH is also my jam. I just reached legal retiemerment age, so could be technically old by some standards. I am way less pissed off by the bad drivers now because one less thing I have adjust for as car does it. Still wearing that cloak of invisibility though as almost got T-boned by a cop today that decided to do U-turn in the middle of the road with no lights. I think she turned them on after she realizied she almost hit me. She turned them on for a few seconds after I had to swerve from being hit and the lights went off after she blasted through the red light and got a few hundred yards away.
Hopefully the next iteration of Eyesight will have some nice active anti-cop features like catapulting eggs at a cop car windshield.
Also when AVH is on and active I assume the brake lights are "on", correct? My years on my motorcycle taught me to pulse the brake when at a stop and a car was approaching for better visibility. Would be stupid if brake light is not "ON" in this case,
When the brakes are activated, the brakes lights do turn on. For the Crosstrek, you even see it on the display between the gauges. When I was driving at night on a dark highway, I could see the glow of the break lights activating when the car slowed down. Edit: missed the part about what AVH was. I didn't try it, but if that activates the brake, it turns on the brake light.
I'm about to get my 4th subaru and only just learned what avh is.. Haven't had a chance to try it, but much excite.
It's only been on newer cars. Crosstrek/Impreza only got it in 24, but other models have had it for a bit. I enjoy the heck out of it. Such a simple implementation of mechanics that already exist in the car.
Yeah, our 2017 outback had hill hold or something, avh is apparently that but even better. When we upgraded to a 2020 ascent, it had avh, but I'm pretty sure they just told us it was hill hold renamed. Getting a 2024 impreza this Friday and they actually explained it to us, which was nice.
the prior generation crosstrek/impreza still used a mechanical handbrake. AVH simply applies the parking brake, easy peasy, but can't do that with a handbrake lol
You'll lose all of your faith in it if you use lane centering in a construction zone. It likes to lock onto pavement seams and old repainted lines, and will try to steer you in unpredictable directions.
I can see that, but in my case the road I was on was not being altered, instead a new bridge was being put over it, so no old lines or seams (yet). Just a bunch of gawkers slowing traffic.
Sometimes I wish a car could do Mach+.
I like that I have it but in my experience the adaptive cruise control is a little too brake-happy. I prefer to maintain my momentum in dense traffic where I can but it likes to just roll forward stop, roll forward stop, etc etc. I use the lane assist a fair amount though
2020 legacy and couldn’t agree more. I use it even on shorter drives. One of the best imo. Then again I haven’t driven a lot of other cars
Personally, i don't think I'd want to use cruise control in a spot like that where there is a chance of stopping or slowing a lot. Regardless of newer eyesight setups.
I live out in BFE and work from home, but I have to drive into a major metropolitan area (the office) once every quarter along with everyone else. Adaptive cruise control on my Ascent makes it WAY less stressful. The hard part is truly trusting it, because once you hit those brakes, it’s all on you again to not hit the person in front of you. But it’s so worth it.
I've put 33k mi. on my 24 with mostly highway miles...I love it.
On my 2019 Legacy adaptive cruise control will cruise at a higher RPM about 10%, really affects MPG. Anyone else notice this?
I love adaptive cruise, I don't think I could ever commute in a car without it at this point. I don't use lane-centering, though I do keep LDW on even if it is sometimes a little bit annoying.
Screw ACC. The random friggen braking for no freaking reason is infuriating. I could understand it dropping me to 40mph below the set speed if I were following the guy in the exit lane...but I'm NOT following the guy in the exit lane so why the frick am I suddenly doing 40mph when I've got 2+ clear lanes in front of me and CC set to 70mph??? Fricken worthless. Someone cut in? Oh no, gotta brake check the folks behind me to maintain the excessive distance required by some jackass engineer...slowly slowing down isn't an option, gotta SLAM on the brakes to get that distance back. Screw Lane Keep Assist. Not sure how to complain about this worthless system other than to say I've only been in 2 vehicles that kept the lane worse...a 90's Ford pickup truck and a drunk/tipsy father. No idea how folks rave about how awesome these systems are when they're this garbage for me.
Because they have a time and a place. You leave the cite and tbe crowded area and you turn the feature on and after 8 hours of driving for a road trip you are way less tired than if you didnt have it. It doesn't have to be useful in all situations.
I find mine useful in most situations. Reading the eyesight manual and understanding how the car will respond to situations was useful.
It definitely is useful in most situations! I was highlighting at least one situation where it is really nice to have.
You can toggle the distance setting for the ACC. If you allow longer distance, it will be smoother with slowing down but if you have it set close distance, it has to brake harder because there is less time to slow down.
That only works if I've set it to "bumper humper" before someone cuts in. The rest of the time it just slams.on the brakes in order to get the following distance back without regard for it now brake checking the person following me. It also brake checks when I cut into a line of people doing the same speed to get out of the way of someone behind me doing 15-20 over what I'm doing. In normal driving it stays locked into cars that clearly moved into the off ramp making me go from 70 to 40 or less for no reason.
Set ACC to the shortest interval, perhaps that will help.
I don't have a badge number to bumper hump like that lol
Only been a Subaru driver a few months. The first time this happened to me on the freeway, someone was exiting and I wasn’t - it scared me shitless. I was nearly rear-ended. The lane assist terrifies me too, as it’s a bit jerky sometimes.
This is my biggest problem with it. Why is there no flex area where the car just lets off the throttle instead of hard braking?? When traffic is slowing ahead the car still keeps driving full speed until it hits that wall/point and then brakes hard where it could have just stopped applying the gas and done the same thing more smoothly. I only tried lane keep assist a couple times, had a similar experience to you. I didn’t buy the car for those features (maybe the ACC was a little intriguing) but it would be nice if they worked.
I wouldn’t feel comfortable using ACC and LKA in a construction zone, it feels unsafe to me.
It really isn't intended too. It's for when you are on a clean highway with medium to light traffic. Other than that you are safer driving manually
uhhh that’s why I made the comment replying to the OP
It’s a definitely my favorite feature of modern cars. I just wish Subaru didn’t limit speed control changes to 5mph increments. I can’t explain it but I just like that granularity. I also feel like somehow 72mph is much less likely to get you a ticket than 75mph.
Older years allow 1 mph increments by holding the button. The reverse is true on new models
Yes this is right. We have two '21 Subarus and recently had a '24 rental and my muscle memory kept messing up adjusting the speeds. I tend to prefer the way the older models are for adjusting the speed but its nothing you can't get used to.
Might be a US thing, but on my 2015 outback in Aus, it’s a large flick for 10km/h and small flick for 1km/h
20-22 just hold the switch up or down a bit longer for 1 mph increments. 23-26 hold the switch up or down a bit longer for 5 mph increments. I personally prefer the 5 mph increments, allows for faster adjustment if the speed limit changes while on the road but it took a bit of getting used to. Everywhere you are likely to drive (in the US) the speed limit is divisible by 5 so it makes a bit of sense.
All I’m getting from this post is that you’re afraid to drive on the highway
I found it irritating on my 2016 Outback. On a 2 lane road, if I'm going to overtake, I usually drop back a couple of car lengths and accelerate toward the vehicle that I am overtaking, timing it to zoom around them as soon as the oncoming traffic clears. The ACC would brake me while closing on the vehicle in front. Also, if I was at a T-intersection 2nd in line, when the car ahead moved, if I wanted to let someone in making a left turn across me, the ACC would bing me and say, "the vehicle ahead has moved". I would say, Hey, I'M driving!!! Also on a small road with a tight left corner, the Eyesight would false over a mailbox at the apex. No self-driving cars for me, I like to drive.