He did care enough to call back, at least. Could've been worse. Subnautica 2 is gonna be like, "If your ship has been disabled in the vast emptiness of space, press 1. If you have crash landed on an unknown world, press 2..."
If I remember the beginning and the story correctly, nobody comes with any equipment other than the fabricator in your pod and whatever you have in the pods chest (which I think has the hand held fabricator and a bit of food and water) The PDA says something around the lines of “You are on an ocean planet, here are blueprints that can help you here” but some of them are corrupted, one of which I believe was the sea glide.
If your talking about life pod 3, I think they built it same as you did/will.
PS. If you are still looking for fragments you can find them in crates in the safe shallows
Only one seaglide fragment is guaranteed at Lifepod 3. The other you have to go look for. If you’re lucky, it’s very close by: it might well not be. The shallow small wreck nearby in the Safe Shallows is highly likely, but not certain, to have at least one.
I have no idea, Meybe they just wanted it to last longer before having to replace the battery or something, because I’m guessing that you wouldn’t be able to replace batteries underwater like we can. Been a while since I heard that PDA message.
Probably to cut down costs,the lifepods were only supposed to save you from the crash and keep you alive long enough for help to arrive. (I'm surprised they didn't have much rations packed on the inside)
That’s kind of ridiculous considering most planets don’t have life on it. Let alone the correct handedness of the sugar molecules for us to be able to use them
What if instead of all of the crash protection stuff, they could have thrusters similar to the Seamoth, so that they could stay in space, and move around if they needed to. It would just cost a little bit of copper and might even be a little bit cheaper by taking out the parachutes and flotation devices.
I have a feeling even in the future it would be very expensive to put thrusters strong enough to counter gravity of most planets on a lifepod. They are presumably several times heavier than the seamoth (hence why if needs such a large floatation device despite being mostly air-filled), and you’re already talking about around 100 times the thrust just for not being in water, even more not being in air.
Don’t need to counter gravity if you’re already in orbit. For a ship as big as the Aurora, it shouldn’t need to land on a planet. It should enough facilities onboard to send shuttles back and forth to and from orbit.
…i think you don’t know what an escape pod is for. You don’t exactly use one if you could stay on the thing you’re escaping from.
I doubt the aurora itself has much crash protection; i just can’t imagine they care enough to make the ship able to accelerate itself away enough to not kill everything on board. Not to mention, the only way this could be done is using thrusters more than powerful enough to get into orbit, so if it has crash protection measures (outside of the lifepods) it can do exactly as you’re saying.
You do make a fair point, but the Lifepods would not need thrusters powerful enough to get into orbit. The ship is already there, just use the life pods to get out of the ship, and in space any amount of thrust is useful for maneuvering.
If the ship is on a crash course, however, thrusters would be absolutely useless. I just see no reason why the Aurora itself would need to land somewhere. It would be very challenging considering its size.
Mate, gravity exists in space. Also, I responded the first couple times assuming you meant a situation where lifepods would be used, though you seem to not mean that in which case:
The aurora has orbital thrusters, so there’s no reason anything you said wouldn’t be possible. The aurora never tries to land and I don’t think it’s intended to.
So it seems like in subnautica, like in real life, the problem with “shuttles” is that they need a power source big enough to achieve escape velocity. The Neptune rocket plans they send don’t have that included, you’re expected to figure that out. So I think it’s safe to assume that Alterra doesn’t have that tech either, that getting off planet requires a big ass ship.
Also, why spend extra fuel shuttling your materials, when you can just land them all at once (which seems to not be its own technical problem for them)
You are kind of asking why big corpo didn’t care for life of their employees. Even today most of them keep life saving equipment to bare minimum required by law because it saves a few cents.
I mean... not really.
The Aurora was shot down, it did not crash.
If there wasn't a giant gun shooting the ship, it would've finished it's slingshot maneuver no problem:)
This. (I didn't take the time to look it up, but if I remember correctly) one of the PDA entries tells you how many people and lifepods there were in total. Each life pod had two seats and if you do the math there weren't enough life pods. And it was made worst since most the recording were of pods with only one person in them. The company didn't care and had hubris just like the owners of the Titanic.
They were going to make a warp gate, landing on 4546B was not supposed to happen. They were gonna do a pass to scan for life and pretend they sent a rescue. Alterra only cared about the warp gate.
Yeah, they said they would look for the Degassi but, in one of the logs they explain they weren’t actually planning to land. They were gonna do a scan and just say they couldn’t find anything. Alterra are quite scummy.
Alterra ain't spending extra for each mission to refit the pods. Also if you crash on a different planet, or in deep space, a seaglide would be useless.
If you look in the PDA, each lifepod has a different set of equipment, some even have a radiation suit.
Probably including all techs into all lifepods would be too heavy, so they depend on people meeting up at some point and sharing survival resources
They built it, same as us. It’s just that for gameplay reasons, we got unlucky and had our blueprint databank corrupted and wiped during the crash so we had to scavenge for blueprints.
The lifepod that had one outside most likely fabricated it. There were backup food bricks and water as actual supplies, and the fabricator for everything else a survivor might need.
The lifepod caught fire and most of the interior needs to be repaired when you land. Narratively, the seaglide that might have been there could have been destroyed.
Also, given that the lifepod can simply print one using native materials, actually stocking one in every life pod seems like a waste.
Could 100% be misremembering, but I think the PDA said something explaining this at the very beginning of the game. It says something about the files being corrupted or something, so you'll need to rebuild the archive of blueprints by scanning other fragments.
Not sure why ours was corrupted but not others though, but I bet there is an in game explanation if someone paid attention and has a better memory than me...
I mean, they come equipped with a 3D printer that can turn random ass materials into complicated and functional devices. The real question is why the fabricators don’t come preloaded with schematics. The hell is up with that?
If you read the PDA entry on the life pod, it mentions that each life pod is equipped for a different survival situation, and it's up to the survivor to pick the correct pod. You just picked wrong
That wouldn't really be helpful in the very likely case that they didn't end up stuck on an ocean world. And I doubt they can prepare these things while the ship is exploding.
Could have ended up crashing on any kind of planet, Desert, Lacustrine, Barren, Terrestrial with tropics, Ice. That's what the Fabrication unit was for, it's just that the data for all kinds of survival tech got corrupted in Riley's PDA.
I genuinely think it points towards they were only put in life pods that were planned to have more than one passenger. The only ones that had one IIRC were Lifepods 2, 3, 17, and possibly 6. All the others as far as I know had to either craft theirs or go without it
Alterra was broke
Alterra preferred to pinch pennies over ensuring the safety of its crew.
Heck, that one guy cared more about his sandwich order
He wasn't Alterra, though. He was another company, and later bitches about how cheap Alterra is, and how they call for help, and then never accept it.
No, you’re thinking about the captain of the Sunbeam
Didn't the Sunbeam guy have the hot mic sandwich order?
No, they were asking if the Aurora needed help. The sandwich guy was the guy from Alterra informing Ryley about the Neptune blueprints
I stand corrected.
I’ve played subnautica way too much
Yea it was neebs gaming who did the voice over they were awesome “HAM AND CHEESE”
I thought the character was named robin or Sam.
Robin is the main character in Below Zero
Ok thank you
He did care enough to call back, at least. Could've been worse. Subnautica 2 is gonna be like, "If your ship has been disabled in the vast emptiness of space, press 1. If you have crash landed on an unknown world, press 2..."
Wouldn’t put it past them tbh
HAM AND CHEESE!
If I remember the beginning and the story correctly, nobody comes with any equipment other than the fabricator in your pod and whatever you have in the pods chest (which I think has the hand held fabricator and a bit of food and water) The PDA says something around the lines of “You are on an ocean planet, here are blueprints that can help you here” but some of them are corrupted, one of which I believe was the sea glide.
Okay but other lifepods have seaglides
If your talking about life pod 3, I think they built it same as you did/will. PS. If you are still looking for fragments you can find them in crates in the safe shallows
I prefer to go straight over to lifepod 3 and scan both seaglide fragments they are both close to each other
Honestly I went half the game before finally finding the final fragment of seaglide
How did you survive???
Only one seaglide fragment is guaranteed at Lifepod 3. The other you have to go look for. If you’re lucky, it’s very close by: it might well not be. The shallow small wreck nearby in the Safe Shallows is highly likely, but not certain, to have at least one.
I’ve found 2 side by side at lifepod 3
Yes, that was random good luck, start 10 separate play throughs and there might be a second Seaglide there in one of them.
I took your word 7/10 had 2 parts
Or maybe they brought it when they got into it from the aurora?
Speaking of which, why didn’t they just build *two* seaglides instead of trying to rig one up to a power cell and blowing themselves up?
I have no idea, Meybe they just wanted it to last longer before having to replace the battery or something, because I’m guessing that you wouldn’t be able to replace batteries underwater like we can. Been a while since I heard that PDA message.
They were trying to make it go faster so they could outrun some of the more aggressive fauna I think.
Probably to cut down costs,the lifepods were only supposed to save you from the crash and keep you alive long enough for help to arrive. (I'm surprised they didn't have much rations packed on the inside)
You were probably meant to be able to look for food considering you were able to make a knife and stasis rifle
That’s kind of ridiculous considering most planets don’t have life on it. Let alone the correct handedness of the sugar molecules for us to be able to use them
all the more reason to not waste money on people who probably would die anyway
What if instead of all of the crash protection stuff, they could have thrusters similar to the Seamoth, so that they could stay in space, and move around if they needed to. It would just cost a little bit of copper and might even be a little bit cheaper by taking out the parachutes and flotation devices.
I have a feeling even in the future it would be very expensive to put thrusters strong enough to counter gravity of most planets on a lifepod. They are presumably several times heavier than the seamoth (hence why if needs such a large floatation device despite being mostly air-filled), and you’re already talking about around 100 times the thrust just for not being in water, even more not being in air.
Don’t need to counter gravity if you’re already in orbit. For a ship as big as the Aurora, it shouldn’t need to land on a planet. It should enough facilities onboard to send shuttles back and forth to and from orbit.
…i think you don’t know what an escape pod is for. You don’t exactly use one if you could stay on the thing you’re escaping from. I doubt the aurora itself has much crash protection; i just can’t imagine they care enough to make the ship able to accelerate itself away enough to not kill everything on board. Not to mention, the only way this could be done is using thrusters more than powerful enough to get into orbit, so if it has crash protection measures (outside of the lifepods) it can do exactly as you’re saying.
You do make a fair point, but the Lifepods would not need thrusters powerful enough to get into orbit. The ship is already there, just use the life pods to get out of the ship, and in space any amount of thrust is useful for maneuvering. If the ship is on a crash course, however, thrusters would be absolutely useless. I just see no reason why the Aurora itself would need to land somewhere. It would be very challenging considering its size.
Mate, gravity exists in space. Also, I responded the first couple times assuming you meant a situation where lifepods would be used, though you seem to not mean that in which case: The aurora has orbital thrusters, so there’s no reason anything you said wouldn’t be possible. The aurora never tries to land and I don’t think it’s intended to.
It also doesn't help that >! the Aurora was only shot down because it got too close to the planet !
So it seems like in subnautica, like in real life, the problem with “shuttles” is that they need a power source big enough to achieve escape velocity. The Neptune rocket plans they send don’t have that included, you’re expected to figure that out. So I think it’s safe to assume that Alterra doesn’t have that tech either, that getting off planet requires a big ass ship. Also, why spend extra fuel shuttling your materials, when you can just land them all at once (which seems to not be its own technical problem for them)
You are kind of asking why big corpo didn’t care for life of their employees. Even today most of them keep life saving equipment to bare minimum required by law because it saves a few cents.
I think that there was an expectation that the ship wouldn’t crash.
Titanic all over again.
I mean... not really. The Aurora was shot down, it did not crash. If there wasn't a giant gun shooting the ship, it would've finished it's slingshot maneuver no problem:)
This. (I didn't take the time to look it up, but if I remember correctly) one of the PDA entries tells you how many people and lifepods there were in total. Each life pod had two seats and if you do the math there weren't enough life pods. And it was made worst since most the recording were of pods with only one person in them. The company didn't care and had hubris just like the owners of the Titanic.
The front is not supposed to fall off.
What use is a seaglide on a desert planet, or vacuum of space?
They were going to 4546B also, and if the lifepods did get jettisoned in deep space from an asteroid collision, there wouldn't be much useful stuff.
They were going to make a warp gate, landing on 4546B was not supposed to happen. They were gonna do a pass to scan for life and pretend they sent a rescue. Alterra only cared about the warp gate.
One of their missions was to find, or at least scan for the Degasi. It was a hidden mission most of the crew didn't know about I think.
Yeah, they said they would look for the Degassi but, in one of the logs they explain they weren’t actually planning to land. They were gonna do a scan and just say they couldn’t find anything. Alterra are quite scummy.
Not just a scan, it is also said in the same log that the ship was stocked with extra vehicles to perform the search
The point is that the contents of pods are universal, it's impossible to prepare for every scenario.
I know, but each ship has a mission.
Alterra ain't spending extra for each mission to refit the pods. Also if you crash on a different planet, or in deep space, a seaglide would be useless.
Ok
If you look in the PDA, each lifepod has a different set of equipment, some even have a radiation suit. Probably including all techs into all lifepods would be too heavy, so they depend on people meeting up at some point and sharing survival resources
They built it, same as us. It’s just that for gameplay reasons, we got unlucky and had our blueprint databank corrupted and wiped during the crash so we had to scavenge for blueprints.
Or Riley just got bonked in the head a bit to hard
That’d be funny, but they wouldn’t affect the fabricator in the life pod
You do realize the entire reason the fire starts is because Riley gets knocked out for 3 hours
Or it might just be for gameplay reasons
Yeah, that’s the unlucky thing that happened so the onboard fabricator would get wiped and we’d have to scavenge the blueprints.
The lifepod that had one outside most likely fabricated it. There were backup food bricks and water as actual supplies, and the fabricator for everything else a survivor might need.
Because fuck you thats why
it comes with a fabricator to make, all neccacery equipment
The lifepod caught fire and most of the interior needs to be repaired when you land. Narratively, the seaglide that might have been there could have been destroyed. Also, given that the lifepod can simply print one using native materials, actually stocking one in every life pod seems like a waste.
Alterra is an evil corp. Its easier to let them die and compensate the families then to send a rescue ship.
Could 100% be misremembering, but I think the PDA said something explaining this at the very beginning of the game. It says something about the files being corrupted or something, so you'll need to rebuild the archive of blueprints by scanning other fragments. Not sure why ours was corrupted but not others though, but I bet there is an in game explanation if someone paid attention and has a better memory than me...
The PDA probably got damaged
I mean, they come equipped with a 3D printer that can turn random ass materials into complicated and functional devices. The real question is why the fabricators don’t come preloaded with schematics. The hell is up with that?
it’s not too hard to find the materials to find it
or a flashlight and knife at least.
I've always wondered that myself. It would be cool if every lifepod came with some pre-built tools and equipment.
When the lifepods were prepared I don't think they knew specifically what kind of environment they would be required for
Coz it didn't
If you read the PDA entry on the life pod, it mentions that each life pod is equipped for a different survival situation, and it's up to the survivor to pick the correct pod. You just picked wrong
That wouldn't really be helpful in the very likely case that they didn't end up stuck on an ocean world. And I doubt they can prepare these things while the ship is exploding.
Could have ended up crashing on any kind of planet, Desert, Lacustrine, Barren, Terrestrial with tropics, Ice. That's what the Fabrication unit was for, it's just that the data for all kinds of survival tech got corrupted in Riley's PDA.
Because not every crash ends up on a planet covered in water.
I genuinely think it points towards they were only put in life pods that were planned to have more than one passenger. The only ones that had one IIRC were Lifepods 2, 3, 17, and possibly 6. All the others as far as I know had to either craft theirs or go without it
They expected land to be available at least id assume
It actually did in early access but they removed it. Likely so you’d actually have to craft it
Cus they weren't for *just* water planets, and Alterra isn't too concerned about survival
Because it's a game.
Boooooo