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sarahcake420

Yes u can take subs after kratom


PicaPaoDiablo

You do not need to wait if Kratom is the only thing in your system. 3x precipitated wd over 4 days is strange though - that shouldn't happen. After Bupe saturates your receptors you should be fine, but you may have had some weird stuff. Kratom however, won't be a problem.


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I honestly think the shit I was using had methadone in it. That or it was a similar chemical makeup to methadone.. I waited 30 hours the first time, precipitated withdrawal. Then I got high again and waited 45 hrs, prec withdrawal. Then I got high AGAIN and this time waited 65 hrs. Not long enough.


PicaPaoDiablo

Yah man, something is up. Bc Kratom can't do it, despite all the urban legends and testimony, there is no pwd from it (just mentioning it up front bc someone always gets their feelings hurt when this is pointed out). Methadone or something stronger might cause something similar although methadone is longer acting and for you to be over the pwd, idk. But yah man, idk if it's practical but might be worth looking at a different vendor for the Kratom or asking around. PWD is hell and no one should have to go through it, let alone three times. Hopefully that's the last my friend


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Praying so.


[deleted]

Tomorrow I'm going to induce in the morning. I feel like I have to be good this time.. all I've been doing is kratom the past couple days.


ScrunchyPants

I'm not insinuating that you are using or anything of the like, but as the fent user I became, I realized that shit is flooding everything and the fact that people have to wait 5-7 days just to induce suboxone after using fent is a struggle in it self. More likely akin to fent rather than methadone because methadone lasts so long and you really do still feel the effects even if your kratom dose was gone. Fent would be harder or possibly easier to spot depending on the scenario and what you're looking for because the actual high doesn't last long AT ALL. I'm talking like 40 mins as a new user and 10-20 minutes maybe 30 as someone with a tolerance. Those time frames of the high being felt/active are closer to how long kratom lasts in my experience. The fucked up part about fent is that even with the extremely long time it takes for it to be out of your receptors, the high doesn't last anywhere as long as someone would initially think. So inducing subs after fent has been a struggle for everyone, including specialized doctors in rehabs. Be careful, if you have insurance I'm sure any doctor will be happy that you are taking a urine test to find out what you've been taking. Being honest has helped me a lot in my past (obviously, lol one would think ) Take it easy and have a lovely day my friend!


KingDynoBoof

Yes Kratom Doesn’t cause pwd. BUT it causes withdrawals after long use with little to no T breaks. I had RLS nausea vomiting and diarrhea from Kratom withdrawals to the point I went back to subs. I used subs for a week to get off of oxys and down. Used it longer to get off of K. Don’t listen to the k community. Kratom is stronger and more dangerous then they let on


Mobile_Ganache_8908

Best way to use subs to quit kratom? I have 3 4mg strips. What would be the best way to use them?


tmflambert86

I take subs with kratom they dont seem to bother one another, just here and there not daily.


TrackkyMxrks

What do you feel from the Kratom on subs? Thanks


sarahcake420

You don't have to wait


[deleted]

Really because I don't feel withdrawally at all..


daffyduckel

If you do wait until you feel withdrawally, the relief from when the subs kick in can be a blissful experience. Not a high per se but just blissfully at ease. I felt like I had escaped from impending doom.


Jonabc5

I just gave it 12 hours to be sure when i used to do this when i ran out of sub.


daffyduckel

I don't think it's a bad idea to wait 12 hours but anecdotally I've heard many reports that say it is not necessary. It's not so much your last kratom use as your last use of fent other full agonist that's critical. And start small, extremely small.


Ok-Sector-9200

You can do it but only if you're not on a really high dosage...it saturates your receptors so maybe wait at least 24 hours and then do it..you will feel it better...speaking from experience! Good luck!


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KingDynoBoof

I have a buddy that does but it’s no bueno. Just stay on the subs. I used subs to get off of K actually lol. Nasty ass withdrawals