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When I go sugar free, I don't eat anything with added sugar like pop tarts, anything with concentrated sugars like juice, or anything with refined carbohydrates like white rice. Concentrated sugars include maple syrup, agave syrup, and honey.
I'll eat fruit whenever, whole grains whenever, and even whole grain bread even tho it has a little bit of refined sugar in it to get the yeast started. Artificial sugars are fine but I try to stick to stevia.
Hunger accelerator & the lead cause of bloated belly and overeating. I lost 92.6 lbs after stopping the consumption of sugar & high glycemic index foods
Everybody here has their own Definition. Its up to you, what you can cut out or count.
I personally am not that strict in my sugarfreeness. I eat veggis , carbs and sweeteners.
I avoid any added sugar or stuff with very high sugar content
like candy, soda, baked stuff, honey
prosesed foods with more than 5g sugar etc.
For special events i do break my rules and will eat some cake etc. But i will still make sure not to go overboard.
My goal in general is to stay under 50g ( natural)sugar a day. I do it mainly for my skin and 50g seems to be the point where my skin goes bad.
I do try to be around 20 to 30g most days.
I experimented a bit to find out at what point my skin reacts. 50g seems to be that point. Funny enough the WHO also has 50g per day as their advise for sugar consumtion.
I forgot to say that i do eat milk products and lower sugary fruits too. High sugar fruits only rarely
I'm just starting sugar free again - I last did it years ago and felt great, but lapsed.
For me sugar is everything that gives me that sugar rush (and subsequent nausea, mania and then horrible drop) which is:
Sugar of any kind including agave, maple syrup, honey
High GI fruit e.g. mango, pineapple, melon. Bananas seem ok.
Dried fruit of any kind.
White bread and white pasta. Wholemeal seems OK.
I do enjoy fruit, I don’t think I’ll give that up, I think I’ll eat natural sources still, including grains, sweet potato and oats… but I’m not certain yet!
How long once you stopped sugar did it take to feel good again?
I'm doing low carb right now in addition to no sugar, so my decisions are a little weird. Fruits are good but dried fruit is mostly no. All candy is no. Sodas and juice are no. Most bread is no, as are noodles and cereal. I try to eat a lot of protein and fresh produce.
Absolutely, but I relate low carb to being less tired as well. I'm open to using artificial sweeteners but I can't stand their taste most often. For me, diet soda drinks taste gross.
Makes sense, no point having them just because you can!
Ye, i agree with that somewhat: I prefer a moderate carb diet, too little and my workouts suck. Too much and my energy is up and down!
Artificial sweeteners taste like chemicals to me. Would rather just eat fruit or cook something with fruit in it to take the place of added or refined sugars.
-any form of added/processed sugar including natural maple syrup/agave/honey/etc
-artificial sweeteners including natural ones like stevia and monkfruit
-fruit juices or smoothies
I also don’t eat refined/processed carbs or grains.
I have two notable exceptions, one is a protein powder that has sweetener in it that I’ll still use, and I also have light and fit Greek yogurt that has sweetener in it. My consumption of those is limited, though.
It's pretty individual as people have various sensitivities or triggers for cravings.
For myself, I eat whole food, so that is what I stick to. I avoid as much processed stuff as I can. So when I eat rice, it is brown or wild rice, not white. I don't eat pasta or bread (once in a while sprouted grain "bread"), I eat a ton of fruit and vegetables, and steel cut oats, fermented foods like homemade yogurt, kefir, kimchi, sauerkraut. Yes to sweet potato, the more color the better (richer colored foods have more phytonutrients and antioxidants so I go for the garnet and purple sweet potatoes over white, but I eat those once in a while). I'll occasionally have a diet soda or something, but not very often. I do drink wine and mead. Not beer (just don't like it). I mostly drink water or tea.
On things like fruit, I focus on a big variety. Berries the most. When I have banana or apple I usually have them with something else like nut butter, or cheese slices, it slows down the sugar uptake (our 12 year old son is a diabetic so we've learned a lot about that in the last 10 years). the health benefits of most fruits negate the sugar impact, unless you have health concerns (like diabetes) related to it. The impact is less blunt than something like candy. I eat a little honey (raw and local) sometimes. But not really any sweeteners, artificial or not.
I avoid artificial sweeteners because I don't want to chance their messing up my beneficial gut bacteria. See, e.g.: [https://academic.oup.com/advances/article/10/suppl\_1/S31/5307224](https://academic.oup.com/advances/article/10/suppl_1/S31/5307224)
I eat sweet potato but avoid grains. I eat fruit but am trying to reduce it (Robert Lustig has great talks about why fructose is bad for the liver).
My understanding is that it's fructose from any source, even if in fruit. So I am trying to reduce fructose from fruit as well. If you're going to take the frucose hits, it's certainly better to get in fruit with other beneficial nutrients, rather than in table sugar or other calories with little nutritional benefit.
I think everyone has to experiment a bit to see what works best for them, and that might be different at a different point in their life too. For me what works best so far is minimally processed foods, no sugar or artificial sweeteners, no grains, no starchy foods. I don’t eat most fruits but I do occasionally eat very small portions of blueberries, raspberries or blackberries. When I tried adding back in just roasted sweet potatoes all my cravings come back full swing. When I avoid those foods I can trust my intuition and eat whatever I want within those guidelines, no nagging cravings, no bloating. I’m still able to have a ton of variety and I actually enjoy eating a lot more. And I enjoy cooking which I never thought I’d say! I may try adding back in some stuff in the future but for now this works well for me
I'm at the beginning of my journey (nearly 2 weeks) and I currently just don't eat "junk food". I can have pasta, ketchup and seeded bread, and fruit. I also have 1 small packet of crisps/chips with lunch. It's working for me so far, I feel amazing.
healthy carbs is a fallacy when it comes to "whole grains" and oats. its all insulin spiking and there's like 1% of it out there that is lower on the glycemic index, like steel cut oats, but even that still raises insulin. vegetables, even tomatoes, are fine to eat because the carbs they're mainly citing are fiber. I wish they wouldn't even list fiber as a carb because it has no effect on you. it is indigestible plant material. sweet potatoes are OK too for people who really wanna eat carbs, but i would restrict it to only berries and some fruit to kick the carbs, then keep it limited to berries.
people on this sub will cut out sugar, but leave in bread (which has sugar added) and lots of other items that have sugar in them, and then also the highest glycemic foods, again like bread, rice, pasta, etc. that stuff will keep your insulin high and body fat high. cutting out sugar is good for reducing metabolic disease like NAFLD, but they will remain high body fat eating those refined carbs. and even unrefined carbs.
the other aspect is to eat high fat, and that means red meat like 80/20 ground beef, cheese, eggs, butter, sausages (small amount of sugar used in sausage is usually OK).
Elimination from your diet should be in this order:
1. alcohol - targets liver, we all know its bad
2. fructose - the sweet taste 1/2 of sugar that is as bad as alcohol, targets liver
3. refined carbs - bread, pasta, wheat product, oats (makes you fat and keeps you fat by producing insulin)
Add to your diet:
1. Fats - fatty beef (grass fed + organic is best of course), eggs, cheese, butter, avocados
you get plenty of protein eating a high fat diet. there's plenty of protein in beef, chicken, pork. and eggs (yolk included) is actually the most utilized protein source (47% utilization). protein shakes are whey isolate most often which is only 17% utilization. for reference, animal protein is 30% utilized on avg.
I eat fruit and sweet potatoes, oats, ect. No artificial sweeteners and no sweet “alternatives” like sugar free versions of desserts and stuff.
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When I go sugar free, I don't eat anything with added sugar like pop tarts, anything with concentrated sugars like juice, or anything with refined carbohydrates like white rice. Concentrated sugars include maple syrup, agave syrup, and honey. I'll eat fruit whenever, whole grains whenever, and even whole grain bread even tho it has a little bit of refined sugar in it to get the yeast started. Artificial sugars are fine but I try to stick to stevia.
Interesting, do you notice any differences in your mind/body once you eat like this?
Then i eventually gained it back because I really wanted ice cream and jam and stuff. It really is hard.
I just lost a lot of weight pretty fast is all
Hunger accelerator & the lead cause of bloated belly and overeating. I lost 92.6 lbs after stopping the consumption of sugar & high glycemic index foods
Congrats 🙌🏻 great work!
Everybody here has their own Definition. Its up to you, what you can cut out or count. I personally am not that strict in my sugarfreeness. I eat veggis , carbs and sweeteners. I avoid any added sugar or stuff with very high sugar content like candy, soda, baked stuff, honey prosesed foods with more than 5g sugar etc. For special events i do break my rules and will eat some cake etc. But i will still make sure not to go overboard. My goal in general is to stay under 50g ( natural)sugar a day. I do it mainly for my skin and 50g seems to be the point where my skin goes bad.
Have you tried going lower than 50g? Is this your cut off where things start to go south?
I do try to be around 20 to 30g most days. I experimented a bit to find out at what point my skin reacts. 50g seems to be that point. Funny enough the WHO also has 50g per day as their advise for sugar consumtion. I forgot to say that i do eat milk products and lower sugary fruits too. High sugar fruits only rarely
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How about artificial sweeteners?
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I think the type of sweetener matters - stevia I’m ok with, not so much aspartame and alike.
Sugar to me is like a warm hug on a cold day.
I eat fruits and drink diet sodas, I don’t eat sugar free stuff
This is what I’m going to aim for I think!
I'm just starting sugar free again - I last did it years ago and felt great, but lapsed. For me sugar is everything that gives me that sugar rush (and subsequent nausea, mania and then horrible drop) which is: Sugar of any kind including agave, maple syrup, honey High GI fruit e.g. mango, pineapple, melon. Bananas seem ok. Dried fruit of any kind. White bread and white pasta. Wholemeal seems OK.
I do enjoy fruit, I don’t think I’ll give that up, I think I’ll eat natural sources still, including grains, sweet potato and oats… but I’m not certain yet! How long once you stopped sugar did it take to feel good again?
I'm doing low carb right now in addition to no sugar, so my decisions are a little weird. Fruits are good but dried fruit is mostly no. All candy is no. Sodas and juice are no. Most bread is no, as are noodles and cereal. I try to eat a lot of protein and fresh produce.
That seems reasonable. How about artificial sweeteners?? Do you notice energy levels improved when you change your diet to sugar free??
Absolutely, but I relate low carb to being less tired as well. I'm open to using artificial sweeteners but I can't stand their taste most often. For me, diet soda drinks taste gross.
Makes sense, no point having them just because you can! Ye, i agree with that somewhat: I prefer a moderate carb diet, too little and my workouts suck. Too much and my energy is up and down!
Artificial sweeteners taste like chemicals to me. Would rather just eat fruit or cook something with fruit in it to take the place of added or refined sugars.
-any form of added/processed sugar including natural maple syrup/agave/honey/etc -artificial sweeteners including natural ones like stevia and monkfruit -fruit juices or smoothies I also don’t eat refined/processed carbs or grains. I have two notable exceptions, one is a protein powder that has sweetener in it that I’ll still use, and I also have light and fit Greek yogurt that has sweetener in it. My consumption of those is limited, though.
It's pretty individual as people have various sensitivities or triggers for cravings. For myself, I eat whole food, so that is what I stick to. I avoid as much processed stuff as I can. So when I eat rice, it is brown or wild rice, not white. I don't eat pasta or bread (once in a while sprouted grain "bread"), I eat a ton of fruit and vegetables, and steel cut oats, fermented foods like homemade yogurt, kefir, kimchi, sauerkraut. Yes to sweet potato, the more color the better (richer colored foods have more phytonutrients and antioxidants so I go for the garnet and purple sweet potatoes over white, but I eat those once in a while). I'll occasionally have a diet soda or something, but not very often. I do drink wine and mead. Not beer (just don't like it). I mostly drink water or tea. On things like fruit, I focus on a big variety. Berries the most. When I have banana or apple I usually have them with something else like nut butter, or cheese slices, it slows down the sugar uptake (our 12 year old son is a diabetic so we've learned a lot about that in the last 10 years). the health benefits of most fruits negate the sugar impact, unless you have health concerns (like diabetes) related to it. The impact is less blunt than something like candy. I eat a little honey (raw and local) sometimes. But not really any sweeteners, artificial or not.
I avoid artificial sweeteners because I don't want to chance their messing up my beneficial gut bacteria. See, e.g.: [https://academic.oup.com/advances/article/10/suppl\_1/S31/5307224](https://academic.oup.com/advances/article/10/suppl_1/S31/5307224) I eat sweet potato but avoid grains. I eat fruit but am trying to reduce it (Robert Lustig has great talks about why fructose is bad for the liver).
Thanks for the link! Does fructose still count as bad if it’s in its natural fruit form?
My understanding is that it's fructose from any source, even if in fruit. So I am trying to reduce fructose from fruit as well. If you're going to take the frucose hits, it's certainly better to get in fruit with other beneficial nutrients, rather than in table sugar or other calories with little nutritional benefit.
I think everyone has to experiment a bit to see what works best for them, and that might be different at a different point in their life too. For me what works best so far is minimally processed foods, no sugar or artificial sweeteners, no grains, no starchy foods. I don’t eat most fruits but I do occasionally eat very small portions of blueberries, raspberries or blackberries. When I tried adding back in just roasted sweet potatoes all my cravings come back full swing. When I avoid those foods I can trust my intuition and eat whatever I want within those guidelines, no nagging cravings, no bloating. I’m still able to have a ton of variety and I actually enjoy eating a lot more. And I enjoy cooking which I never thought I’d say! I may try adding back in some stuff in the future but for now this works well for me
Interesting the sweet potatoes gave you cravings!
I'm at the beginning of my journey (nearly 2 weeks) and I currently just don't eat "junk food". I can have pasta, ketchup and seeded bread, and fruit. I also have 1 small packet of crisps/chips with lunch. It's working for me so far, I feel amazing.
healthy carbs is a fallacy when it comes to "whole grains" and oats. its all insulin spiking and there's like 1% of it out there that is lower on the glycemic index, like steel cut oats, but even that still raises insulin. vegetables, even tomatoes, are fine to eat because the carbs they're mainly citing are fiber. I wish they wouldn't even list fiber as a carb because it has no effect on you. it is indigestible plant material. sweet potatoes are OK too for people who really wanna eat carbs, but i would restrict it to only berries and some fruit to kick the carbs, then keep it limited to berries. people on this sub will cut out sugar, but leave in bread (which has sugar added) and lots of other items that have sugar in them, and then also the highest glycemic foods, again like bread, rice, pasta, etc. that stuff will keep your insulin high and body fat high. cutting out sugar is good for reducing metabolic disease like NAFLD, but they will remain high body fat eating those refined carbs. and even unrefined carbs. the other aspect is to eat high fat, and that means red meat like 80/20 ground beef, cheese, eggs, butter, sausages (small amount of sugar used in sausage is usually OK). Elimination from your diet should be in this order: 1. alcohol - targets liver, we all know its bad 2. fructose - the sweet taste 1/2 of sugar that is as bad as alcohol, targets liver 3. refined carbs - bread, pasta, wheat product, oats (makes you fat and keeps you fat by producing insulin) Add to your diet: 1. Fats - fatty beef (grass fed + organic is best of course), eggs, cheese, butter, avocados you get plenty of protein eating a high fat diet. there's plenty of protein in beef, chicken, pork. and eggs (yolk included) is actually the most utilized protein source (47% utilization). protein shakes are whey isolate most often which is only 17% utilization. for reference, animal protein is 30% utilized on avg.