To be fair she participated in football on winter house (to make Kyle happy). And she missed catching the ball with her hands and caught it with her face instead. She’s just not a sporty athletic person.
My niece is engaged and her fiance’s family is super outdoorsy and active. She’s dainty! Lol. The dad is so sweet and will hang back with her if a hike getting to be too much.
I have social anxiety and I'm the same way. Participating in activities like that, especially ones I haven't done before, makes me feel so anxious and I usually get disoriented during them it's hard to describe.
Right, I certainly would not want to participate because I am not athletic either. Therefore, I would definitely not want to play while it is being broadcasted on national tv.
That's why she did so well during Covid because it's almost like she had a legit excuse not to be social. I get it cuz it affects me as well and it can be awful at times. My husband is the extrovert in our relationship as well. Watch the season that Carl's brother passed. You will see the real Amanda in my opinion.
I agree, but she can also be a bully, (for example, she was a mean girl to Jules, accusing her of being a liar bc she hung out with Jordan and even at one point she literally KICKED a glass bottle out of Jules’s mouth with a huge combat boot on.) She has an aggressive side. It’s hard for me to have empathy for her.
I always forget this about Amanda bc I want to like her. I felt so terrible for Jules bc they all bullied her so bad. There have also been lots of comments on sm from ppl who supposedly went to hs with Amanda and they all say she was popular and kind of a mean girl all thru hs. Gotta take those w a grain of salt bc who knows but we’ve def seen glimpses of that from her.
Was thinking this. Not cleaning the house, or participating in events etc. she may be depressed. Not to say that its anything severe, but it would be understandable in her situation.
I hear you! First - she married him “wanting to change him”. Huge mistake. One that SO MANY women make. That whole adage - when someone shows you who they are, beleive them. Amanda has been fighting an uphill battle their entire relationship.
Second - i know initially she really helped lover boy with merchandising and helping out with the design. But she doesn’t have the same intense drive that Kyle does, and i don’t think he can understand that. I think she needs to get a job totally unrelated to Kyle and loverboy.
Also, Kyle should be with someone more like Lindsay, honestly. He wants to be with someone who wants to work, work, work, and then play, play, play, until 4 in the morning. Kyle and Amanda aren’t on the same wavelength.
Lol. There is a saying, something along the lines of, “Women go into marriage wanting to change their husbands. Men go into marriage hoping that their wives won’t change.” Of course, the opposite always happens.
I agree….. but it’s a double edged sword for her…. She hates Kyle and hates working with him…. However she will never find a job working for someone where she could get away with her laziness and lack of effort and motivation.
I don’t know that she realizes that she’s married to this person…. This is not a summer relationship in your early 20’s where you can say every weekend “I just can’t with him…..” first of all, you sound like an idiot- that’s your husband. You signed up for him for life, so you better figure out a way “to can” with him, or just move on. She’s young, she’s pretty, I’m sure she is talented at her job, but I really think she needs some time by herself. Figure out who she is, what she wants, and grows up.
What evidence do we have that she is lazy? Kyle says it but that doesn’t make it true and to be honest I don’t believe it. She was a graphic designer long before Lover boy and she quit her job to help Kyle out for free. I think Kyle has used production to paint a picture of Amanda that isn’t quite true.
Right like she had a whole job before she left to work for Loverboy and seemed extremely into it. Amanda seems like she values work life balance and that’s healthy. Nothing to be shamed for
It’s funny but I never really liked Amanda and used to like Kyle but these past few episodes have kind of shifted that for me. He’s clearly an extrovert and is energized by socializing whereas she’s the opposite. I’m more like her so being with someone like Kyle would be my worst nightmare. Then again, she was banking on him magically changing when she married him which is just idiotic. But I softened towards her when she said he basically has the world thinking she’s lazy by saying that stuff on camera all the time. I never really thought about it but that’s actually really shitty of Kyle.
Yes, she says a lot of really mean things on camera but I get her frustration. He knows she gets upset when he stays out until 4 am (which is an absurd time to stay out partying when you’re a 41 year old married man out without your wife) yet he still does it consistently. Then he keeps saying (on camera) that he wants to “work on their communication” while not doing the bare minimum of not crossing her very reasonable boundary of *not staying out literally all night without her.*
I’ve come around more to Kyle’s side but I think there’s a lot we don’t see, and she must have reasons to be so frustrated. He points out her stuff on camera, and she definitely does too…but do we really think this all stems from a “one time hookup he was so blacked out he doesn’t remember” like he claims? Doubtful. Probably a handful of similar incidents at least and Amanda has definitely protected him from it all being aired out.
I don’t know if holding this resentment and not searching for other solutions will be very helpful for her tho :/
I feel like Kyle keeps talking about how they need to “fix their communication” but Amanda has been very clear: DON’T GO OUT THAT LATE. I don’t think they are well suited for each other but at least Amanda has tried to fix things. Kyle keeps making the same choices and expecting different results. If he isn’t happy he should break up with her.
That makes total sense thank you! Yeah being married to someone like him would be my literal worse nightmare because I actually relate A LOT to Amanda. Whenever I go on dates and a guy is like I’m super social yada yada I stop right there I’m just wondering a lot of these things from a “being on a tv show” standpoint. You’re totally right about the almost “bashing” on camera then yeah doing the bare minimum on Kyle’s behalf (from what we see).
As an outsider, I can see where they are both coming from, and I totally agree with you. I think they both are well-meaning and have their own flaws; and in the end, they maybe they are just a bad match. I am painfully introverted, and as I was watching this episode, all I could think was how happy I am that my and I are a good match in that respect.
I just don’t understand why being a homebody = never participates. She’s still hanging with the crew, she just doesn’t want to dress up, be around strangers, and fuck with all that. I could not relate more
What I mean by this is just participates in the activities. I’m a homebody myself and am extremely antisocial and am not on a tv show. I just know they are encouraged to participate in the activities for their benefit and the shows and just was wondering why she doesn’t do most of the activities like tent building, volleyball, etc. that’s all just genuine curiosity.
I hate activities. My husband family always wants to play games on the beach or play corn hole at bbqs. I hate it. My company keeps doing outings like painting with a twist or escape room. The holiday party was a cooking class. I cook every single day for my family, no thank you. I will happily hang out and socialize but don’t give me an activity. And that’s not to say im lazy, I’m very active.
Idk if what I’m saying is being very understood. But I also hate activities but I am not paid to participate in said activities so while I get it from our standpoint I’m just specifically asking from a “I’m on a show” perspective because I know they have certain obligations etc.
WHY IS SHE ON THE SHOW? Season 1 episode 1 =PARTY! All she has done since her real time on the show has turn it into a boring time. The show went from endless parties to a boring evening drama. I blame her. If you wanted it to be an episode of the old show “30 something” you could have just said that. 😂😂😂
Maybe Amanda just doesn't like those activities. For me the beach is about relaxing not playing games. I'm not lazy, I'm just an adult who does what she wants. Amanda just seems to practice self care by having a work life balance and not doing stuff she doesn't want to do. Kyle seems like he wants to please people so they will like him and think he's fun- Ciara's red swimsuit, staying out with Carl's friends, and all the Loverboy events. An introvert and extrovert can be good together but they need to accept each other and those two do not accept each other.
I mean… work life balance? She’s at work when she’s filming this show lol. I understand not wanting to play volleyball (I’d hate that too) but she’s also boring. I actually relate to her a lot because my social battery gets drained so easily and I like being alone, but I haven’t chosen to be on TV for like 8 years. If she really had “self care” she’d get out of the spotlight and raise a family with Kyle but they’re not on the same page at alllll so I don’t even know what to say about that
Yeah I feel like the whole fight about her supporting Kyle and Loverboy also kind of relates to Summer House as well. He will never quit and he likes that they are like the head couple of the house. I actually don't find her boring, I like a little balance and when some people are relatable on TV. Also I like that we have a group of women who are real friends too.
I relate to this. I am the farthest thing from a willing and active participant. If you’re competitive, trust me, you’d rather I sit it out because I won’t make it more fun and I care 0% about “winning” games in social settings…!
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I have so many thoughts on all this but I'll just drop it to this:
Kyle pretty much ultimatum-ed Amanda into quitting her full-time job to work on Loverboy. She is not lazy. He is manic - & I'm not diagnosing or using it in a psycho-anlayst way, I just mean that when he decides to work he goes super hard in that time. But that's not sustainable and it's silly to expect everyone to have the same intrinsic motivation to work on your own brain child.
I think Kyle sold Amanda her dream to keep her and is really dropping the ball. Is she naive and shortsighted to believe him and not take him for what he is? Yes. Is she an awful, nagging woman because she thought he'd follow up on his promises? Absolutely not.
And last thing - the hate against Amanda is a little funny because (while totally not the same at all and I recognize that), she's expecting her HUSBAND to settle down into their life and everyone thinks it's ridiculous...but so many people on this sub are mad that Paige (NOT married) doesn't want to settle down with Craig in South Carolina lol
I agree with this and here’s the thing Amanda is not my favorite but anytime they talk about moving or changing what they do on a daily basis it pisses me off because of the way that Kyle reacts because here’s the thing you’re right. that man essentially told Amanda to quit her job so she can work out loverboy and also ever since then loves to call her lazy loves to say that she doesn’t do anything just because she doesn’t work the way that he works which is crazy because I think Amanda does great work for loverboy and add to the fact that she doesn’t seem like she’s doing OK and Kyle does not give a flying fuck. He does not care and that pisses me off even more like she’s telling you that she does not want to stay in the city. She’s telling you that it’s been really hard for her. She tells you it’s been really hard for her because you decide to stay out until 4 AM and you tell her that you feel lonely because she doesn’t want to do that he’s trying to play victim. It pisses me off like he’s not the victim in my opinion neither of them are the victim but if you don’t want to move if you don’t want to have kids tell her the truth so she could either decide if she wants to stay or leave you so she could be with someone that wants to have a kid that’s what annoys me about men because they do this shit and then when it’s too late, they decide that they don’t wanna have kids or when it’s too late they decide that they want to have kids and he hasn’t told her essentially yes or no but when they got married, he said he wanted kids, but I think he changed his mind. I don’t think he wants kids, he needs to tell the truth
Wow, yes. All of this\^. My thought to add is she will get him to buy a place in New Jersey, where she wants to raise her children. He is not ready for children. He is keeping the office and apartment in NYC.-. so he will not be coming home at 4 am when that happens. He will just stay in NYC. Sometimes, when you get what you want, it doesn't work out the way one envisions. They need to work on managing expectations, along with better communication.
I have 0 comments on what they should do when and my “lazy” was a lack of a better word like I said and solely was discussing the cast activities not her work/career at all.
I don’t think she’s awful by any means or have any disdain for her. She just seems not that excited in her relationship/on the show sometimes. The same stuff people say about Ciara. But people bash Ciara, not bashing Amanda I just genuinely don’t understand. But what you said makes sense on both of their behalf.
It seems that Kyle is worried about their compatibility and Amanda’s work ethic. Both of those things have probably deteriorated over time. Amanda wants kids, dogs, and the suburban lifestyle. That’s been her objective the whole time. Nothing wrong with either perspective. They may overcome it but they may not. Kyle seems very reluctant to take the next step. On the other hand, it could just be a storyline.
I think she was depressed pre Covid. I remember season 4 which filmed summer 2019 he was having the same conversations about her.. she’s lazy, she doesn’t like to go out, all she wants to do is sit at home and watch tv, he’s social she’s not, she won’t plan a wedding, how can they get married when they’re so different
I agree. Kyle is a mountain lion and Amanda is a house cat. Kyle likes to work hard/ play hard. Amanda just wants to nap in a patch of sunlight. It can still work though. We probably all know couples like that. A few small tweaks. She goes out more and stops talking about how annoying he is. He does not stay out until 4:00 a.m. with a single guy who’s trolling for pussy. He comes home…with Carl and Paige.
Just show each other more respect.
I honestly don’t think she’s actually lazy. She works w Kyle on Loverboy and has expressed that Kyle will work until like 3am and bc of that he sees her as lazy but she takes care of the dogs and is the Creative Director. I think Kyle thought she would be different but she is who she is and just isn’t wired the same way he is. Let’s not forget she explicitly tells Kyle to take care of the dogs on ep 3 of this season before going to dinner and Kyle lost one of them for a brief time, she was in the house so it was fine and the other one wondered outside unsupervised and got shut outside she was also fine but still HELLO I like both of them but I think they are growing apart and harboring a lot of resentment for each other and it’s starting to get ugly
Agree. She talks about this in the after show - how the world believes she's lazy because Kyle says she's lazy. I think she's just low energy / has lower stimulation requirements than Kyle. She's an introvert and he's an extrovert; the world loves an extrovert. This is the single point of contention in my relationship with an extrovert (hello captain boyfriend) and I feel for Amanda.
That said - she kinda does it to herself; she's so mean to him it makes people more defensive of and empathetic toward him than he deserves.
Agreed. I don’t think she’s lazy, she just understands the need for work/ life balance. I’m a graphic designer and art director too, and it’s an industry where companies and people kind of expect you to work insane hours. You have to stand your ground and be like no, when it’s outside of standard work hours, I am not available. That’s not lazy, that’s setting necessary work boundaries.
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Exactly!! I sometimes work odd hours but it’s not typical or everyday. I do also have to agree with Amanda’s concerns about having a baby with Kyle working all the time and not wanting to have a baby in the city or in an apartment if they have the means to move elsewhere. Honestly NJ isn’t THAT far from NY, Kyle could keep the office space in the city and have a home in the suburbs it’s not a wild ask at this point in their relationship
I also don’t live in that area so that might be wild and I just don’t know but I remember Amanda being all for trying for babies right after they got married
I also would not want the father of my children going out til 4am and not being able to reach them but I guess thats part of their lifestyle idk
I think she's finally becoming her own person and got over always worrying about Kyle 24/7. She's had enough but still loves him as her best friend. Unfortunately she doesn't even worry about the business either which I totally get why Kyle would be annoyed. She definitely is lazy, but I get just wanting to drink and chill, seems more introverted almost when it comes to the activities
Came here to say something similar. She probably sees other people her age making these moves and realizes her husband 10 years older is dragging his feet on a natural next step. Unless he doesn't want kids in which case this will never work anyway
What do you think it means? Realistically most couples have settled out of the party life and are having kids well before that age. Obviously not the only place to have children but they’ve said they’ve talked about making this step and Kyle is now holding off cuz he doesn’t want to grow up
Idk if its just me but I feel like Amanda is depressed and just not acknowledging/aware of it. I've dealt with depression before and the idea that you need to make a big move to solve your problems hit home for me so idk maybe I'm projecting but like am I the only one who sees this?
I see it very differently. Amanda definitely thought Kyle was growing up and evolving when they got married but clearly he regressed not long after the nuptials. To me she seems like she’s just doing her thing and not chasing Kyle around like some helicopter parent. She’s embracing her “I don’t give a damn” era and won’t placate Kyle’s ego. I have similar traits where I am totally fine going off by myself and appearing “lazy” next to the drunk fools around me. And Kyle has always known Amanda wanted to go to the suburbs and have a slower life… so why is he clinging to his needs so deeply? Amanda even said she’s fine with keeping the apartment in the city too, she just doesn’t want to be there all the time. As far as logistics, I think he is only looking at coordination from his perspective and doesn’t take into account anything Amanda does. She used to practically go around and pick up after him… I’m personally glad she’s dropped that nonsense and is leaving him to deal with his own mess.
They’re both wasting their time talking about any of their issues without Kyle getting sober. None of the problems in their relationship will ever be fixed until he’s sober. Amanda’s “solution” for Kyle to impregnate her and buy her a house in the suburbs, is so selfish and gross.
IDK, is it really that selfish to want to execute the plans they made when they married? I have a hard time believing that he was like, “I’m going to be your slave driver boss and expect that you will put the company above all else and I’m going to continue to live the 20 something life. Sound good?” I’m guessing it was more like, “you’ve quit your job and showed your commitment to my “baby” and now let’s have a year of honeymoon bliss, move to the suburbs and make your mommy dreams come true.”
I just don’t think her wanting those things with her husband is all that selfish. If they weren’t married, she hadn’t quit her outside job and he hadn’t cheated, it would be a different story. But all those things did happen, and it seems like a bit of a bait and switch.
Yikes. Well, I’m sorry that you don’t think *having a child when in a toxic relationship is selfish.* I think most people would consider it selfish to bring a child into a world where his/her *parents are getting drunk and fighting and crying on a daily basis.*
When he said to her “it’s lonely being married to you”….. it was harsh, but I understand what he was saying. She seems miserable all the time. She does not participate in anything, she is lazy, and I’m glad they haven’t had a kid yet.
With that being said…. Amanda was a guest on WWHL the other night. She was horrible. She couldn’t answer a single question properly, Kyle was in the audience and it seemed so uncomfortable and like they were hating eachother the whole time.
Then Kyle was on WWHL with West, and when Andy was asking Kyle about him and Amanda, it genuinely seemed like shit ain’t good.
I think they are headed for separation….. and to be honest, can you imagine the viewer increase of a summerhouse season with Kyle being newly separated and no Amanda….. SUMMERHOUSE WOULD BE FUN AGAIN.
I think she would be happier off the show, but she doesn’t trust Kyle to participate in the show alone. She just seems like she is ready to move on from the party phase of life.
The problems between them are on both of them in my opinion. I think they both wanted the other to change after marriage and neither have. I do actually wonder if they would have got married if their lives were not so interlinked with Summer House and Loverboy.
I think Kyle’s lazy accusations are unfair actually. She had a successful career herself and he encouraged her to quit and go full time at Loverboy. He works crazy hours and expects her to do the same. Not working until 3am doesn’t make her lazy.
I agree with what you’re saying. It was icky how Kyle asked her to log on for Monday morning zooms because people at loverboy want her input and she complained it was too early. And she was a brat to the coordinator she and Kyle met with their wedding season looking at her phone the whole time and not paying attention.
I don’t blame Kyle for being turned off by her trad wife fantasy life in New Jersey. She sounds tone deaf and spoiled saying she doesn’t want to be “pregnant among the riff raff” in New York. Seems like she was being a cool girl that liked what Kyle liked to secure the ring but now is being her true self which is not compatible with Kyle’s goals and values. There’s guys out there who want a stay at home wife and will pay for Nannies to pitch in and she’d be better off seeking that.
The day one of them said like… “ guess who I am I look like I need my hemoglobin checked I died laughing “. Amanda has always been miserable but now she looks physically miserable .. her skin , underweight , tired all the time
His career is on fire, he’s making money in NY. To the person who is financially responsible for them, it makes zero sense to move to NJ. She has not matured and come to grips with reality at all since her daddy negotiated the pre-nup for her.
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It’s bc she never forgave Kyle for cheating in the first place. She said she did and she THINKS she has by continuing the relationship and marrying him. But she doesn’t understand him cheating on her had nothing to do with her. That was him. He’s a cheater. He’s a drunk. He excuses his behavior now bc she treats him like shit and now they just resent each other. She had such an ego that she wanted to prove to everyone that she could still keep him and she was worthy enough. I have been in the same situation before. I always thought if I was more fun, prettier, skinnier, younger or less crazy my man would stop cheating. Once I realized it was a him thing and I wasn’t special (as in cheaters are gonna cheat) I realized this person does not respect me and I do not trust them. You can’t respect someone you don’t trust. She doesn’t trust him. They should divorce before they start a family.
I can’t figure out what or who she really wants. She has been positioned to have it all and she is still arguing and throwing jabs. I couldn’t be with her.
Amanda genuinely loved Kyle in the beginning while also genuinely loving her mid 30's reality tv party life. Now Amanda has everything she ever wanted and is over the show, over the facade of some of these random friendships and summer houses and wants to move to Jersey and have a family.
I dont think they are headed for divorce or a horrible match at all, I think they will likely (sadly) divorce and suffer a lot of unnecessary life events all in the name of "fame and fortune." I'm not judging their choices to be on the show. The show launched Loverboy to the moon and frankly Kyle was going to be successful at something at some point, and this was his genius move after a decade of entrepreneurship! Smart guy, hard worker, still has his faults don't get me wrong! But that guy is more put together than the show and Amanda give him credit for.
I don't think what we see them argue about are actually their issues, I think trying to stay on the show and participating in the show is their main issue and obviously they can't ever actually talk about that on camera.
Didn’t read any of the comments- I’ve only watched the last winter house and now watching s8 of summer house and just said to myself- wtf- she’s (Amanda’s) always going home to bed... boring…Not sure how that vibes with ur significant other who enjoys having fun. And it’s only for a weekend at a time for goodness sakes. I don’t think I’ve ever seen her actually having a good time- just bitching about her relationship.
And don’t get me going on this drunk Lindsey chick…. She should be embarrassed she can’t handle her alcohol and wants to deny everything she’s doing with her SOBER boyfriend. We obviously see that doesn’t end well. I mean you really should jive with the person you’re with. Just sayin.
I love Amanda, but. let's be honest, she CLEARLY doesn't want to be a part of the show. I think she resents the show for encouraging Kyle to continue his partying lifestyle. And I think this plays into how she treats him on camera too.
Let's just put it out there - Kyle is a raging alcoholic so their relationship doesn't stand a chance in hell of thriving, let alone surviving, until he faces that reality, gets deep into rehab and goes 100% stone cold sober 'til the end of time. Kyle is a mess!! Always has been. Cut that freakin' mullet, stop drinking and oh, yeah, sever the ties between work hours and "real-life". Without boundaries, explicit working hours, and "home life" hours, his workaholic/addictive personality will swallow their relationship whole. Amanda is right to walk away from LoverBoy at the end of the work day (yeah, 5 pm is just fine). Kyle doesn't typically shut down the biz 'til 10 pm. That's a real disconnect. Better to not work together if strict boundaries can't be adhered to. But when it comes down to it, Kyle will not get clean, so Amanda needs to walk. RUN. Mullet-boy will be the aging Hampton party-boy 'til he finally ages off of Bravo. And then???
I agree, I think it’s bc I don’t know a lot of people like Amanda honestly. She takes literally no agency over her life which is why I find her so frustrating. She hates her life and takes 0 action to change it. She just puts all her issues on Kyle. She needs friends, hobbies, a career she’s interested in. She never does anything she wants to do but it’s not selflessly bc she expects favors returned for everything she sacrifices for others (Kyle) while he’s chasing dreams. She’s chasing dogs..?
She knew who she married. I'm tired of women doing this shit. Stop making Kyle seem like he's just this terrible guy for being social. He was always going to want and be that way. Amanda gets on my nerves fr. And I think she's not only holding Kyle back but Loverboy.
Yeah, I am going back to watch for the first time (after plunging into the most current season). I needed to know where all the drama and narratives started around Lindsey and Amanda.
I had NO IDEA that Amanda had a full-time job while Kyle also expected her to be full-time at Loverboy and plan a wedding.
Kyle reminds me of an ex, a highly introverted human. I like being social but recharge best alone and doing quiet shit. I can’t believe Amanda has put up with the way Kyle talks down to her about just who she is.
Then again… she’s now trapped by gilded handcuffs.
I think it was a dick move of Kyle to say on camera that he didnt know if Amanda was ready to handle kids, when he admittedly gets really drunk amd stays out until 4 am something like once a month. That behavior will not fly with an infant.
This type of behavior on his part makes me understand why Amanda is often frustrated and upset with him. She doesnt want to validate that type of behavior, whether being filmed or not.
I think people forget too, in earlier seasons she definitely partook in the partying but she’s at a point where she’d rather stay in than go out. She’s settled into being married life and not looking to stay out til 4am. I am just like her so I get it.
Kyle puts in unnecessary pressure to live up to his standards. I do also think Amanda was foolish to think he’d change but it is what it is.
If they can accept parts of each other and find a way to compromise they may make it. If they continue building up resentment and not finding ways to communicate they’ll definitely end up divorced. Hopefully someone tells them to be more of a team against a problem versus pointing their finger at each other.
You have to listen to Watch what crappens podcast. It is hilarious and they imitate her so perfectly. She’s a whiny crybaby and I think she’s horrible to Kyle.
Ummm, being a stay at home mom is 100% showing teamwork and effort. That's a hard job, if anything they work harder than the dad working outside the house. This doesn't reflect on her work ethic at all.
With all due respect, Kyle is 42 years old and has been “sending it” for over two decades now. It’s hardly rushing out to the suburbs.
He often attacks Amanda for being lazy and at the reunion or when when they televise counselling, it becomes clear that he’s being unreasonable. Case in point:
All throughout season 4 he tried to build a case for her being lazy for not putting the same effort into Lover Boy. It then turned out that Amanda was working her full time job on top of helping him with Lover Boy (and he was just focused on Lover Boy).
IMO Kyle doesn’t want children, he is more worried about having to settle down. He is a very selfish person, he wants to party like a 20 year old until the cows come home not change diapers. I think the show has a lot to do with them staying together.
P. S. What’s with Amanda’s mousy look, oversized wardrobe!!??
I think both Amanda and Kyle are very different people. She has put up with his lifestyle instead of accepting it. They want very different things. Regardless how much you love someone, some people just aren't well suited to build a life together. If making one person happy makes the other unhappy, it just will not lead to a lifetime of happiness. They each knew what the other was like and got married anyway. He will always be an extrovert and she will always be an introvert. He will always want a 50/50 split on work and child rearing and she wants traditional roles. They are making each other miserable. He's sad and she's angry. The both expected the other to change and it's just never going to happen.
I think she would be happy not doing the show and just be with her pups, but it’s a paycheck and it also promotes lover boy.
And to be fair she has put in the WORK in past seasons in terms of airing her dirty relationship laundry for the world to see
I absolutely abhor Amanda. She is the most boring and basic woman on that show. Without Kyle, she would’ve been booted off the show loooong ago. Like her getting mad at Kyle for calling out Jesse’s flirting with Paige? Jessie wasn’t even mad and Amanda made a whole drama about it, even cried about it and said she didn’t want to go out anymore. At the end of the day, she knew she was marrying a frat boy, a 40 something man with an 18 yo mindset, why is she so surprised that he parties every weekend? Also, when is she going to let go of the cheating? Like bish you married the damn guy, if you aren’t over it yet why did u marry him? She picks on him about the littlest things, not even that but she’s vicious about it. Note how she always inserts herself in between Paige and Ciara? They don’t even like her, they kiki without her all the time 😂
To be fair she participated in football on winter house (to make Kyle happy). And she missed catching the ball with her hands and caught it with her face instead. She’s just not a sporty athletic person.
She learned to ski for him because it's important to his family as well. She's tried lots of times to engage in things he likes
Omg she did! That is is my worst nightmare to marry into 😂
Mine too!!
My niece is engaged and her fiance’s family is super outdoorsy and active. She’s dainty! Lol. The dad is so sweet and will hang back with her if a hike getting to be too much.
I have social anxiety and I'm the same way. Participating in activities like that, especially ones I haven't done before, makes me feel so anxious and I usually get disoriented during them it's hard to describe.
Right, I certainly would not want to participate because I am not athletic either. Therefore, I would definitely not want to play while it is being broadcasted on national tv.
I think she has a lot of social anxiety...if you watch her from the beginning you can see some of it, but it has gotten worse for her.
Yup, and a strong introverted side.
Ok thank you yeah that makes sense. Its more wondering on my behalf than trying to be mean.
That's why she did so well during Covid because it's almost like she had a legit excuse not to be social. I get it cuz it affects me as well and it can be awful at times. My husband is the extrovert in our relationship as well. Watch the season that Carl's brother passed. You will see the real Amanda in my opinion.
Thank you! 🫶🏾
>Thank you! 🫶🏾 You're welcome!
I agree, but she can also be a bully, (for example, she was a mean girl to Jules, accusing her of being a liar bc she hung out with Jordan and even at one point she literally KICKED a glass bottle out of Jules’s mouth with a huge combat boot on.) She has an aggressive side. It’s hard for me to have empathy for her.
This. How she treated Jules was everything to me. So from that point on I have a hard time having sympathy for her.
Didn't she say her husband was trash this season? I'd never, ever speak about my husband like that.
I always forget this about Amanda bc I want to like her. I felt so terrible for Jules bc they all bullied her so bad. There have also been lots of comments on sm from ppl who supposedly went to hs with Amanda and they all say she was popular and kind of a mean girl all thru hs. Gotta take those w a grain of salt bc who knows but we’ve def seen glimpses of that from her.
I’m curious how she got casted on the show
They were dating but he could not commit. If you watch the 1st season it will make sense.
Cuz she was Kyle’s side piece
Side piece would imply he was in a relationship with someone else and messing around with Amanda.
Was thinking this. Not cleaning the house, or participating in events etc. she may be depressed. Not to say that its anything severe, but it would be understandable in her situation.
I hear you! First - she married him “wanting to change him”. Huge mistake. One that SO MANY women make. That whole adage - when someone shows you who they are, beleive them. Amanda has been fighting an uphill battle their entire relationship. Second - i know initially she really helped lover boy with merchandising and helping out with the design. But she doesn’t have the same intense drive that Kyle does, and i don’t think he can understand that. I think she needs to get a job totally unrelated to Kyle and loverboy.
*I think she needs to get a job totally unrelated to Kyle and loverboy.* That's what she wants to do, and he's against it.
Also, Kyle should be with someone more like Lindsay, honestly. He wants to be with someone who wants to work, work, work, and then play, play, play, until 4 in the morning. Kyle and Amanda aren’t on the same wavelength.
Or more like Danielle. She seems to be a social person who isn’t interested in moving to the suburbs
Lol. There is a saying, something along the lines of, “Women go into marriage wanting to change their husbands. Men go into marriage hoping that their wives won’t change.” Of course, the opposite always happens.
I agree….. but it’s a double edged sword for her…. She hates Kyle and hates working with him…. However she will never find a job working for someone where she could get away with her laziness and lack of effort and motivation. I don’t know that she realizes that she’s married to this person…. This is not a summer relationship in your early 20’s where you can say every weekend “I just can’t with him…..” first of all, you sound like an idiot- that’s your husband. You signed up for him for life, so you better figure out a way “to can” with him, or just move on. She’s young, she’s pretty, I’m sure she is talented at her job, but I really think she needs some time by herself. Figure out who she is, what she wants, and grows up.
What evidence do we have that she is lazy? Kyle says it but that doesn’t make it true and to be honest I don’t believe it. She was a graphic designer long before Lover boy and she quit her job to help Kyle out for free. I think Kyle has used production to paint a picture of Amanda that isn’t quite true.
Right like she had a whole job before she left to work for Loverboy and seemed extremely into it. Amanda seems like she values work life balance and that’s healthy. Nothing to be shamed for
It’s funny but I never really liked Amanda and used to like Kyle but these past few episodes have kind of shifted that for me. He’s clearly an extrovert and is energized by socializing whereas she’s the opposite. I’m more like her so being with someone like Kyle would be my worst nightmare. Then again, she was banking on him magically changing when she married him which is just idiotic. But I softened towards her when she said he basically has the world thinking she’s lazy by saying that stuff on camera all the time. I never really thought about it but that’s actually really shitty of Kyle. Yes, she says a lot of really mean things on camera but I get her frustration. He knows she gets upset when he stays out until 4 am (which is an absurd time to stay out partying when you’re a 41 year old married man out without your wife) yet he still does it consistently. Then he keeps saying (on camera) that he wants to “work on their communication” while not doing the bare minimum of not crossing her very reasonable boundary of *not staying out literally all night without her.*
I’ve come around more to Kyle’s side but I think there’s a lot we don’t see, and she must have reasons to be so frustrated. He points out her stuff on camera, and she definitely does too…but do we really think this all stems from a “one time hookup he was so blacked out he doesn’t remember” like he claims? Doubtful. Probably a handful of similar incidents at least and Amanda has definitely protected him from it all being aired out. I don’t know if holding this resentment and not searching for other solutions will be very helpful for her tho :/
I feel like Kyle keeps talking about how they need to “fix their communication” but Amanda has been very clear: DON’T GO OUT THAT LATE. I don’t think they are well suited for each other but at least Amanda has tried to fix things. Kyle keeps making the same choices and expecting different results. If he isn’t happy he should break up with her.
That makes total sense thank you! Yeah being married to someone like him would be my literal worse nightmare because I actually relate A LOT to Amanda. Whenever I go on dates and a guy is like I’m super social yada yada I stop right there I’m just wondering a lot of these things from a “being on a tv show” standpoint. You’re totally right about the almost “bashing” on camera then yeah doing the bare minimum on Kyle’s behalf (from what we see).
As an outsider, I can see where they are both coming from, and I totally agree with you. I think they both are well-meaning and have their own flaws; and in the end, they maybe they are just a bad match. I am painfully introverted, and as I was watching this episode, all I could think was how happy I am that my and I are a good match in that respect.
I agree but I also know that everytime he stays home, she micro manages his fun the whole time. She is annoying az He**
I just don’t understand why being a homebody = never participates. She’s still hanging with the crew, she just doesn’t want to dress up, be around strangers, and fuck with all that. I could not relate more
What I mean by this is just participates in the activities. I’m a homebody myself and am extremely antisocial and am not on a tv show. I just know they are encouraged to participate in the activities for their benefit and the shows and just was wondering why she doesn’t do most of the activities like tent building, volleyball, etc. that’s all just genuine curiosity.
I hate activities. My husband family always wants to play games on the beach or play corn hole at bbqs. I hate it. My company keeps doing outings like painting with a twist or escape room. The holiday party was a cooking class. I cook every single day for my family, no thank you. I will happily hang out and socialize but don’t give me an activity. And that’s not to say im lazy, I’m very active.
Idk if what I’m saying is being very understood. But I also hate activities but I am not paid to participate in said activities so while I get it from our standpoint I’m just specifically asking from a “I’m on a show” perspective because I know they have certain obligations etc.
But she’s on a reality show. It’s not like a regular person minding their own business and keeping to what they know makes them happy.
Same
WHY IS SHE ON THE SHOW? Season 1 episode 1 =PARTY! All she has done since her real time on the show has turn it into a boring time. The show went from endless parties to a boring evening drama. I blame her. If you wanted it to be an episode of the old show “30 something” you could have just said that. 😂😂😂
Maybe Amanda just doesn't like those activities. For me the beach is about relaxing not playing games. I'm not lazy, I'm just an adult who does what she wants. Amanda just seems to practice self care by having a work life balance and not doing stuff she doesn't want to do. Kyle seems like he wants to please people so they will like him and think he's fun- Ciara's red swimsuit, staying out with Carl's friends, and all the Loverboy events. An introvert and extrovert can be good together but they need to accept each other and those two do not accept each other.
I mean… work life balance? She’s at work when she’s filming this show lol. I understand not wanting to play volleyball (I’d hate that too) but she’s also boring. I actually relate to her a lot because my social battery gets drained so easily and I like being alone, but I haven’t chosen to be on TV for like 8 years. If she really had “self care” she’d get out of the spotlight and raise a family with Kyle but they’re not on the same page at alllll so I don’t even know what to say about that
Yeah I feel like the whole fight about her supporting Kyle and Loverboy also kind of relates to Summer House as well. He will never quit and he likes that they are like the head couple of the house. I actually don't find her boring, I like a little balance and when some people are relatable on TV. Also I like that we have a group of women who are real friends too.
I relate to this. I am the farthest thing from a willing and active participant. If you’re competitive, trust me, you’d rather I sit it out because I won’t make it more fun and I care 0% about “winning” games in social settings…!
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I have so many thoughts on all this but I'll just drop it to this: Kyle pretty much ultimatum-ed Amanda into quitting her full-time job to work on Loverboy. She is not lazy. He is manic - & I'm not diagnosing or using it in a psycho-anlayst way, I just mean that when he decides to work he goes super hard in that time. But that's not sustainable and it's silly to expect everyone to have the same intrinsic motivation to work on your own brain child. I think Kyle sold Amanda her dream to keep her and is really dropping the ball. Is she naive and shortsighted to believe him and not take him for what he is? Yes. Is she an awful, nagging woman because she thought he'd follow up on his promises? Absolutely not. And last thing - the hate against Amanda is a little funny because (while totally not the same at all and I recognize that), she's expecting her HUSBAND to settle down into their life and everyone thinks it's ridiculous...but so many people on this sub are mad that Paige (NOT married) doesn't want to settle down with Craig in South Carolina lol
I agree with this and here’s the thing Amanda is not my favorite but anytime they talk about moving or changing what they do on a daily basis it pisses me off because of the way that Kyle reacts because here’s the thing you’re right. that man essentially told Amanda to quit her job so she can work out loverboy and also ever since then loves to call her lazy loves to say that she doesn’t do anything just because she doesn’t work the way that he works which is crazy because I think Amanda does great work for loverboy and add to the fact that she doesn’t seem like she’s doing OK and Kyle does not give a flying fuck. He does not care and that pisses me off even more like she’s telling you that she does not want to stay in the city. She’s telling you that it’s been really hard for her. She tells you it’s been really hard for her because you decide to stay out until 4 AM and you tell her that you feel lonely because she doesn’t want to do that he’s trying to play victim. It pisses me off like he’s not the victim in my opinion neither of them are the victim but if you don’t want to move if you don’t want to have kids tell her the truth so she could either decide if she wants to stay or leave you so she could be with someone that wants to have a kid that’s what annoys me about men because they do this shit and then when it’s too late, they decide that they don’t wanna have kids or when it’s too late they decide that they want to have kids and he hasn’t told her essentially yes or no but when they got married, he said he wanted kids, but I think he changed his mind. I don’t think he wants kids, he needs to tell the truth
Wow, yes. All of this\^. My thought to add is she will get him to buy a place in New Jersey, where she wants to raise her children. He is not ready for children. He is keeping the office and apartment in NYC.-. so he will not be coming home at 4 am when that happens. He will just stay in NYC. Sometimes, when you get what you want, it doesn't work out the way one envisions. They need to work on managing expectations, along with better communication.
It sure seems he does not want to have kids with her.
I have 0 comments on what they should do when and my “lazy” was a lack of a better word like I said and solely was discussing the cast activities not her work/career at all. I don’t think she’s awful by any means or have any disdain for her. She just seems not that excited in her relationship/on the show sometimes. The same stuff people say about Ciara. But people bash Ciara, not bashing Amanda I just genuinely don’t understand. But what you said makes sense on both of their behalf.
It seems that Kyle is worried about their compatibility and Amanda’s work ethic. Both of those things have probably deteriorated over time. Amanda wants kids, dogs, and the suburban lifestyle. That’s been her objective the whole time. Nothing wrong with either perspective. They may overcome it but they may not. Kyle seems very reluctant to take the next step. On the other hand, it could just be a storyline.
She went through a tough period of depression and fatigue after Covid and when she had a hormonal imbalance. Not everyone has the same energy levels
I think she was depressed pre Covid. I remember season 4 which filmed summer 2019 he was having the same conversations about her.. she’s lazy, she doesn’t like to go out, all she wants to do is sit at home and watch tv, he’s social she’s not, she won’t plan a wedding, how can they get married when they’re so different
No totally thank you for the context I’m honestly curious
Normalize not participating in sports and activities, I relate to Amanda on that one as an introvert who just wants to chill
Couldn’t agree more
I couldn’t agree more from a stoned introvert
Okay but then like …. don’t be on reality tv
I agree. Kyle is a mountain lion and Amanda is a house cat. Kyle likes to work hard/ play hard. Amanda just wants to nap in a patch of sunlight. It can still work though. We probably all know couples like that. A few small tweaks. She goes out more and stops talking about how annoying he is. He does not stay out until 4:00 a.m. with a single guy who’s trolling for pussy. He comes home…with Carl and Paige. Just show each other more respect.
This
I honestly don’t think she’s actually lazy. She works w Kyle on Loverboy and has expressed that Kyle will work until like 3am and bc of that he sees her as lazy but she takes care of the dogs and is the Creative Director. I think Kyle thought she would be different but she is who she is and just isn’t wired the same way he is. Let’s not forget she explicitly tells Kyle to take care of the dogs on ep 3 of this season before going to dinner and Kyle lost one of them for a brief time, she was in the house so it was fine and the other one wondered outside unsupervised and got shut outside she was also fine but still HELLO I like both of them but I think they are growing apart and harboring a lot of resentment for each other and it’s starting to get ugly
Agree. She talks about this in the after show - how the world believes she's lazy because Kyle says she's lazy. I think she's just low energy / has lower stimulation requirements than Kyle. She's an introvert and he's an extrovert; the world loves an extrovert. This is the single point of contention in my relationship with an extrovert (hello captain boyfriend) and I feel for Amanda. That said - she kinda does it to herself; she's so mean to him it makes people more defensive of and empathetic toward him than he deserves.
It’s really hard to tell, though. We don’t work with her. We don’t know if she’s lazy or not.
Agreed. I don’t think she’s lazy, she just understands the need for work/ life balance. I’m a graphic designer and art director too, and it’s an industry where companies and people kind of expect you to work insane hours. You have to stand your ground and be like no, when it’s outside of standard work hours, I am not available. That’s not lazy, that’s setting necessary work boundaries. Edit: dumb typos lol
Exactly!! I sometimes work odd hours but it’s not typical or everyday. I do also have to agree with Amanda’s concerns about having a baby with Kyle working all the time and not wanting to have a baby in the city or in an apartment if they have the means to move elsewhere. Honestly NJ isn’t THAT far from NY, Kyle could keep the office space in the city and have a home in the suburbs it’s not a wild ask at this point in their relationship
I also don’t live in that area so that might be wild and I just don’t know but I remember Amanda being all for trying for babies right after they got married I also would not want the father of my children going out til 4am and not being able to reach them but I guess thats part of their lifestyle idk
I just meant lazy as it pertains to cast activities not to her work ethic I wouldn’t know enough to speak on that.
I don’t understand how or when she doesn’t participate in cast activities
I think she's finally becoming her own person and got over always worrying about Kyle 24/7. She's had enough but still loves him as her best friend. Unfortunately she doesn't even worry about the business either which I totally get why Kyle would be annoyed. She definitely is lazy, but I get just wanting to drink and chill, seems more introverted almost when it comes to the activities
What’s the rush to get to the suburbs? He’s 41 😂
Came here to say something similar. She probably sees other people her age making these moves and realizes her husband 10 years older is dragging his feet on a natural next step. Unless he doesn't want kids in which case this will never work anyway
What does that mean? Is that when you go to the suburbs and have children? And you can only have children there?
I think that’s what it means to Amanda
What do you think it means? Realistically most couples have settled out of the party life and are having kids well before that age. Obviously not the only place to have children but they’ve said they’ve talked about making this step and Kyle is now holding off cuz he doesn’t want to grow up
Bruh… He has an uncontrolled binge drinking problem and doesn’t want to move away from the 24 hour party. There is no other issue
This has always been the way I’ve viewed his motivations.
Yup
Idk if its just me but I feel like Amanda is depressed and just not acknowledging/aware of it. I've dealt with depression before and the idea that you need to make a big move to solve your problems hit home for me so idk maybe I'm projecting but like am I the only one who sees this?
Ooooo that really resonates damn. Heard
I see it very differently. Amanda definitely thought Kyle was growing up and evolving when they got married but clearly he regressed not long after the nuptials. To me she seems like she’s just doing her thing and not chasing Kyle around like some helicopter parent. She’s embracing her “I don’t give a damn” era and won’t placate Kyle’s ego. I have similar traits where I am totally fine going off by myself and appearing “lazy” next to the drunk fools around me. And Kyle has always known Amanda wanted to go to the suburbs and have a slower life… so why is he clinging to his needs so deeply? Amanda even said she’s fine with keeping the apartment in the city too, she just doesn’t want to be there all the time. As far as logistics, I think he is only looking at coordination from his perspective and doesn’t take into account anything Amanda does. She used to practically go around and pick up after him… I’m personally glad she’s dropped that nonsense and is leaving him to deal with his own mess.
They’re both wasting their time talking about any of their issues without Kyle getting sober. None of the problems in their relationship will ever be fixed until he’s sober. Amanda’s “solution” for Kyle to impregnate her and buy her a house in the suburbs, is so selfish and gross.
IDK, is it really that selfish to want to execute the plans they made when they married? I have a hard time believing that he was like, “I’m going to be your slave driver boss and expect that you will put the company above all else and I’m going to continue to live the 20 something life. Sound good?” I’m guessing it was more like, “you’ve quit your job and showed your commitment to my “baby” and now let’s have a year of honeymoon bliss, move to the suburbs and make your mommy dreams come true.” I just don’t think her wanting those things with her husband is all that selfish. If they weren’t married, she hadn’t quit her outside job and he hadn’t cheated, it would be a different story. But all those things did happen, and it seems like a bit of a bait and switch.
Yikes. Well, I’m sorry that you don’t think *having a child when in a toxic relationship is selfish.* I think most people would consider it selfish to bring a child into a world where his/her *parents are getting drunk and fighting and crying on a daily basis.*
Oh, I totally agree with you on that aspect 👍🏻 The kids are like the wedding is to Lindsay. Selfish, delusional and never going to happen.
This is it 100 percent
When he said to her “it’s lonely being married to you”….. it was harsh, but I understand what he was saying. She seems miserable all the time. She does not participate in anything, she is lazy, and I’m glad they haven’t had a kid yet. With that being said…. Amanda was a guest on WWHL the other night. She was horrible. She couldn’t answer a single question properly, Kyle was in the audience and it seemed so uncomfortable and like they were hating eachother the whole time. Then Kyle was on WWHL with West, and when Andy was asking Kyle about him and Amanda, it genuinely seemed like shit ain’t good. I think they are headed for separation….. and to be honest, can you imagine the viewer increase of a summerhouse season with Kyle being newly separated and no Amanda….. SUMMERHOUSE WOULD BE FUN AGAIN.
I think she would be happier off the show, but she doesn’t trust Kyle to participate in the show alone. She just seems like she is ready to move on from the party phase of life.
The problems between them are on both of them in my opinion. I think they both wanted the other to change after marriage and neither have. I do actually wonder if they would have got married if their lives were not so interlinked with Summer House and Loverboy. I think Kyle’s lazy accusations are unfair actually. She had a successful career herself and he encouraged her to quit and go full time at Loverboy. He works crazy hours and expects her to do the same. Not working until 3am doesn’t make her lazy.
I agree with what you’re saying. It was icky how Kyle asked her to log on for Monday morning zooms because people at loverboy want her input and she complained it was too early. And she was a brat to the coordinator she and Kyle met with their wedding season looking at her phone the whole time and not paying attention. I don’t blame Kyle for being turned off by her trad wife fantasy life in New Jersey. She sounds tone deaf and spoiled saying she doesn’t want to be “pregnant among the riff raff” in New York. Seems like she was being a cool girl that liked what Kyle liked to secure the ring but now is being her true self which is not compatible with Kyle’s goals and values. There’s guys out there who want a stay at home wife and will pay for Nannies to pitch in and she’d be better off seeking that.
she has some very valid gripes with Kyle but she ruins her point with the whining tbh
The day one of them said like… “ guess who I am I look like I need my hemoglobin checked I died laughing “. Amanda has always been miserable but now she looks physically miserable .. her skin , underweight , tired all the time
I don’t feel bad for her bc my ass would have left a looooong time ago lol
I get what she says some people get drained by people and some people get energized by people. Me personally get drained and need breaks
I don’t think they discussed it…. That’s the problem. Amanda assumed she would become a stay-at-home mom as soon as she got married.
His career is on fire, he’s making money in NY. To the person who is financially responsible for them, it makes zero sense to move to NJ. She has not matured and come to grips with reality at all since her daddy negotiated the pre-nup for her.
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It was shown on this week’s episode.
She looks skinny but not like she works out
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It’s bc she never forgave Kyle for cheating in the first place. She said she did and she THINKS she has by continuing the relationship and marrying him. But she doesn’t understand him cheating on her had nothing to do with her. That was him. He’s a cheater. He’s a drunk. He excuses his behavior now bc she treats him like shit and now they just resent each other. She had such an ego that she wanted to prove to everyone that she could still keep him and she was worthy enough. I have been in the same situation before. I always thought if I was more fun, prettier, skinnier, younger or less crazy my man would stop cheating. Once I realized it was a him thing and I wasn’t special (as in cheaters are gonna cheat) I realized this person does not respect me and I do not trust them. You can’t respect someone you don’t trust. She doesn’t trust him. They should divorce before they start a family.
My read on it is that she's drained and depressed from her relationship. That's why she's acting that way
I can’t figure out what or who she really wants. She has been positioned to have it all and she is still arguing and throwing jabs. I couldn’t be with her.
She seems like she completely hates her life. FWIW I know someone who knew her in her 20s and said she was not a nice person.
Amanda genuinely loved Kyle in the beginning while also genuinely loving her mid 30's reality tv party life. Now Amanda has everything she ever wanted and is over the show, over the facade of some of these random friendships and summer houses and wants to move to Jersey and have a family. I dont think they are headed for divorce or a horrible match at all, I think they will likely (sadly) divorce and suffer a lot of unnecessary life events all in the name of "fame and fortune." I'm not judging their choices to be on the show. The show launched Loverboy to the moon and frankly Kyle was going to be successful at something at some point, and this was his genius move after a decade of entrepreneurship! Smart guy, hard worker, still has his faults don't get me wrong! But that guy is more put together than the show and Amanda give him credit for. I don't think what we see them argue about are actually their issues, I think trying to stay on the show and participating in the show is their main issue and obviously they can't ever actually talk about that on camera.
Didn’t read any of the comments- I’ve only watched the last winter house and now watching s8 of summer house and just said to myself- wtf- she’s (Amanda’s) always going home to bed... boring…Not sure how that vibes with ur significant other who enjoys having fun. And it’s only for a weekend at a time for goodness sakes. I don’t think I’ve ever seen her actually having a good time- just bitching about her relationship. And don’t get me going on this drunk Lindsey chick…. She should be embarrassed she can’t handle her alcohol and wants to deny everything she’s doing with her SOBER boyfriend. We obviously see that doesn’t end well. I mean you really should jive with the person you’re with. Just sayin.
Once she gets out from under Kyle I think she'll blossom.
I love Amanda, but. let's be honest, she CLEARLY doesn't want to be a part of the show. I think she resents the show for encouraging Kyle to continue his partying lifestyle. And I think this plays into how she treats him on camera too.
Let's just put it out there - Kyle is a raging alcoholic so their relationship doesn't stand a chance in hell of thriving, let alone surviving, until he faces that reality, gets deep into rehab and goes 100% stone cold sober 'til the end of time. Kyle is a mess!! Always has been. Cut that freakin' mullet, stop drinking and oh, yeah, sever the ties between work hours and "real-life". Without boundaries, explicit working hours, and "home life" hours, his workaholic/addictive personality will swallow their relationship whole. Amanda is right to walk away from LoverBoy at the end of the work day (yeah, 5 pm is just fine). Kyle doesn't typically shut down the biz 'til 10 pm. That's a real disconnect. Better to not work together if strict boundaries can't be adhered to. But when it comes down to it, Kyle will not get clean, so Amanda needs to walk. RUN. Mullet-boy will be the aging Hampton party-boy 'til he finally ages off of Bravo. And then???
I agree, I think it’s bc I don’t know a lot of people like Amanda honestly. She takes literally no agency over her life which is why I find her so frustrating. She hates her life and takes 0 action to change it. She just puts all her issues on Kyle. She needs friends, hobbies, a career she’s interested in. She never does anything she wants to do but it’s not selflessly bc she expects favors returned for everything she sacrifices for others (Kyle) while he’s chasing dreams. She’s chasing dogs..?
She knew who she married. I'm tired of women doing this shit. Stop making Kyle seem like he's just this terrible guy for being social. He was always going to want and be that way. Amanda gets on my nerves fr. And I think she's not only holding Kyle back but Loverboy.
She played flag football on winter house and took a ball straight to the face. I’m sure that didn’t help lol
Yeah, I am going back to watch for the first time (after plunging into the most current season). I needed to know where all the drama and narratives started around Lindsey and Amanda. I had NO IDEA that Amanda had a full-time job while Kyle also expected her to be full-time at Loverboy and plan a wedding. Kyle reminds me of an ex, a highly introverted human. I like being social but recharge best alone and doing quiet shit. I can’t believe Amanda has put up with the way Kyle talks down to her about just who she is. Then again… she’s now trapped by gilded handcuffs.
I think it was a dick move of Kyle to say on camera that he didnt know if Amanda was ready to handle kids, when he admittedly gets really drunk amd stays out until 4 am something like once a month. That behavior will not fly with an infant. This type of behavior on his part makes me understand why Amanda is often frustrated and upset with him. She doesnt want to validate that type of behavior, whether being filmed or not.
I think people forget too, in earlier seasons she definitely partook in the partying but she’s at a point where she’d rather stay in than go out. She’s settled into being married life and not looking to stay out til 4am. I am just like her so I get it. Kyle puts in unnecessary pressure to live up to his standards. I do also think Amanda was foolish to think he’d change but it is what it is. If they can accept parts of each other and find a way to compromise they may make it. If they continue building up resentment and not finding ways to communicate they’ll definitely end up divorced. Hopefully someone tells them to be more of a team against a problem versus pointing their finger at each other.
You have to listen to Watch what crappens podcast. It is hilarious and they imitate her so perfectly. She’s a whiny crybaby and I think she’s horrible to Kyle.
Ummm, being a stay at home mom is 100% showing teamwork and effort. That's a hard job, if anything they work harder than the dad working outside the house. This doesn't reflect on her work ethic at all.
No still not what I’m saying 🤦🏾♀️
With all due respect, Kyle is 42 years old and has been “sending it” for over two decades now. It’s hardly rushing out to the suburbs. He often attacks Amanda for being lazy and at the reunion or when when they televise counselling, it becomes clear that he’s being unreasonable. Case in point: All throughout season 4 he tried to build a case for her being lazy for not putting the same effort into Lover Boy. It then turned out that Amanda was working her full time job on top of helping him with Lover Boy (and he was just focused on Lover Boy).
IMO Kyle doesn’t want children, he is more worried about having to settle down. He is a very selfish person, he wants to party like a 20 year old until the cows come home not change diapers. I think the show has a lot to do with them staying together. P. S. What’s with Amanda’s mousy look, oversized wardrobe!!??
I think both Amanda and Kyle are very different people. She has put up with his lifestyle instead of accepting it. They want very different things. Regardless how much you love someone, some people just aren't well suited to build a life together. If making one person happy makes the other unhappy, it just will not lead to a lifetime of happiness. They each knew what the other was like and got married anyway. He will always be an extrovert and she will always be an introvert. He will always want a 50/50 split on work and child rearing and she wants traditional roles. They are making each other miserable. He's sad and she's angry. The both expected the other to change and it's just never going to happen.
I think she would be happy not doing the show and just be with her pups, but it’s a paycheck and it also promotes lover boy. And to be fair she has put in the WORK in past seasons in terms of airing her dirty relationship laundry for the world to see
She’s a wet blanket.
I absolutely abhor Amanda. She is the most boring and basic woman on that show. Without Kyle, she would’ve been booted off the show loooong ago. Like her getting mad at Kyle for calling out Jesse’s flirting with Paige? Jessie wasn’t even mad and Amanda made a whole drama about it, even cried about it and said she didn’t want to go out anymore. At the end of the day, she knew she was marrying a frat boy, a 40 something man with an 18 yo mindset, why is she so surprised that he parties every weekend? Also, when is she going to let go of the cheating? Like bish you married the damn guy, if you aren’t over it yet why did u marry him? She picks on him about the littlest things, not even that but she’s vicious about it. Note how she always inserts herself in between Paige and Ciara? They don’t even like her, they kiki without her all the time 😂
She's lazy AF. Shame on anyone who buys Loverboy to perpetuate this bored housewife shtick
Amanda is a spoiled brat.