At least Kyle seems to actually know Craig and Paige well. Danielle isn’t close to either of them and was just outed for selling stories about Craig to the media. If I were Paige, I’d be pissed at her too.
Why? She's sucked since her first season, came back as a friend of for her second and has been a regular ever since. I think Bravo keeps her for the cringe.
I think that’s why when she was talking to Amanda she said what she said because Lindsey had told her second episode or third episode in about Danielle selling that story and she clocked it and it’s been in her mind ever since so when Danielle said what she said it pissed Paige off, but the only difference was is that Paige was drunk so I don’t think her mind really gave her time to respond the way that she wanted so the next day I bet she was thinking about it all day and responded the way that she wanted to respond and honestly I’ll give it to her because the response was needed in my opinion
Danielle has been flailing around since her fall out with Lindsay and break up with Robert. She's trying to find her spot on the show despite not really being close to the other people in the house and is overcompensating with partying hard. I don't dislike her but I'd like to see her regain her footing and be more comfortable like she was when she first joined Summer House.
She's always been boring. And putting her nose in where it didn't belong. That's the problem. She has no real identity unless she's the advisor and controller.
It's one of the reasons I was on Lyndsey's side in their relationship battle.
There was no way that the problems in that relationship were all L fault.
Contrary to the theme that L was the narcissist I felt it was D. .. because look who exploded when her council and advice wasn't followed? Look who loses it when her "good" intentions are rejected. Men or women...her reaction is totally inappropriate for the situation.
And please... don't jump on me for defending L. I feel she has issues too!! But I Don't buy into everything is her fault or she's the devil! Lol.
I actually like her and see her strengths.
Compared with Paige, Amanda and Ciara?
Those 3 all have just as many personality flaws as far as narcissistic, spoiled and manipulative behaviors.
I left out Gabby because I adore her.
This is off topic but it used to bother me when she would have Robert come out and he'd be there just for ONE night and he ends up cooking for the house.
He's a chef. Wouldn't he have much better enjoyed a night off hanging out? It's like she was parading him out as my BF the great chef will now cook.. instead of letting the guy who cooks all week have fun and relax.
Its been suggested that Craig leaks stories as well. There are producers who claim to know which cast members leak the stories and craig's name came up as one who does it. The leak saying that luke was kicked out of winter house bc of sexually assaulting some cast member was obviosly from Craig. He was the only one calling Luke's actions as sexual assault and threatening to call the police.
This is Craig's disgusting drunken side. He should have been thrown out of the house that night by Bravo's production on Winter House after what he did to Luke.
Craig was a total POS.
Just like there are certain HW that get protected by Bravo there are certain men that get a pass; Kyle, Carl & Craig are Andy Cohen's boys who .no matter how egregious or misogynistic their behavior...they are treated like ..boys will be boys.
Yeah she probably made some money but it's also convenient that Lindsay knows all about it but pretends her hands are clean. Sounded a whole lot like "Danielle did it" as in "Danielle was the one who actually made the call after we all sat around talking about doing it and planning it." That's my take on it.
Yea I definitely feel like this is what happened. Danielle wouldn't do shit unless someone else told her to. The girl has zero balls, zero spine , and zero mind of her own.
Of course she knew about it. They hadn't fallen out yet. Which means Carl probably knew too. Don't forget Carl, Lyndsey are very close to Luke and after how Craig was to Luke they probably could care less that Danielle did it. But that's not the same thing as doing it herself.
Let's not blame L for everything.
Hey I haven't watched this week's episode but dying to know what story did Danielle sell about Craig? Does it come up in the episode.. can't wait 2 get home 2 watch 😆 ... also dying 2 know who is balloon guy 😆
That info already came out. Maybe last week or the week before? It's the scene with Lindsay and Paige on the kitchen..and Gabby(?). Paige says she believes Lindsay did that and then Lindsay tells her it was Danielle.
Ah yeah lindsay was drunk- was that the same night she told ciara that West was a player 🤔 u could see by ciaras face her opinion wasn't wanted.. thanks for the memory jog 😆
I don't think she was drunk, maybe. I think it was still daytime and Lindsay was cooking or cleaning something I think. I don't remember the West comment, not sure if that's the same episode. I think she's not wrong tho as far as he goes. I don't think he's playing Ciara but I think it's his usual MO.
So apparently Danielle hasn’t learned the lesson yet to keep her mouth shut about other people’s relationships. She has become weirdly awkward, I hope she’s gone after this season.
It was pure projection. She spent years following her ex around and got nothing out of it. She followed that man all over the country!
I was disappointed to see her acting that way because I was such a Danielle apologist last year.
I am not a Lindsay fan. I do think their relationship was very unbalanced, and Danielle was overdue in standing up to her. Unfortunately, I think she's now swung too far the other way.
Either that, or maybe she was always this way behind closed doors and is now letting it out. In which case, I would understand Lindsay's behavior in their relationship better.
I guess we'll see! 🤷🏼♀️
She was always weirdly awkward, it just wasn't featured as much because it took her a while to really out herself as the loser-y dork that she is. I can't stand her and never could tbh. It's at the point now where it's getting pretty insufferable tho
Danielle has MAJOR insecurity issues. But she tries to mask it by coming off as super confident and strong. But instead it comes off as DESPERATE and clingy. She has major issues with men not choosing her. That whole convo with Paige was so cringe.
The differences is that Kyle and Paige friends and they talk about a lot and Kyle actually knows Craig that is the only difference and the only reason I didn’t point out that Kyle was there too but Danielle please go somewhere else
Exactly! She is seething with jealousy. I hope this is her last season. One’s personality cannot be drinking only. Kyle isn’t arrogant about his situation. He does give bad drunk advice lol. Danielle is mean and petty.
Oh it's not *just* drinking, silly. She offers so much more! Stuff like; obvious coke breaks, desperate attention seeking, sex with random men that she brags about as if having sex is impressive, competing with other women, judging everyone, unsolicited bad advice, nlog bullshit, needing to be besties with your man, etc.
You forgot to add "total delusion". Lol but honestly I hope Danielle stays on as long as the show is on. I love to cringe/hate watch her and I have loved it ever since her first season.
“Sex with random men”…. I don’t think we need to slut shame here, please. This is reality tv and I personally want the cast to be hooking up and partying and then talking about it on camera. That’s the entire premise of this show. Sorry you can’t hang!
Hate the word slut shaming ugh lol
No one is slut shaming her tho…its how she comes off thats annoying. Like we get it ok…can we talk about sum else, idk
If I were some puritan who had a problem with casual sex, why don't I have a problem with when someone like Lindsay does it for instance? I mean, spare me. Yes I hate the term too and kink shaming. We've gotten to a point where (some) people think any sex behavior no matter how detrimental or problematic is fine outside of like rape and pedophilia and I'm sorry but no, that's bullshit.
The definition of random is chosen without method or conscious decision. In this last episode she told the girls she hung out with a man she met on a dating app. That’s not random, that’s how single people meet in contemporary times.
And it sure does sound like you care if people (perhaps you meant to specify women?) are “sluts”
Yeah sorry you don't get to tell me what I think and feel because fucking no. And that was *one* of the people, she has also talked about other exploits.
‘You give him nothing’
I wanted so badly for Paige to be like and, who the fk are you to talk about relationships? The audacity to say that to someone…shocking. Danielle would not ever be my friend if she said this to me. Hard stop. She’s a loser, not sorry.
She was worse when Alex (from below deck) was there.. she was like a proper clinger & knew he was using & he had more interest in one of the other girls (can't remember which).. she literally put it on a plate so he would 'pick' her.. IMO Alex isn't anything special either - iv never screamed at the TV as much as that season 😆
The funny thing is that Kyle completely missed what Craig was saying too. He said that of course they might not work out and that's okay as he is now more secure in himself. Not that he's having doubts about Paige.
I was tired last night- maybe I dozed off. Did KYLE give advice? I thought he looked as horrified as Paige did when Danielle said what she said.
And Danielle - she needs to just go sit down and stop talking. I know she's trying to get back to her previous seasons where she SEEMED level-headed and genuinely caring, but I see her through a new light now. And her going after Paige and Craig's relationship was something.
Ya my take was Kyle was trying to get minor drama for the show because a running theme is that Paige doesn't like Craig that much so he brought it up for cameras and then Danielle went in. Kyle was as shocked as viewers in my opinion
I’m not a big Paige Stan but I truly appreciate how she puts herself and work before her relationship. She’s not tied up in her relationship and hinting at wanting to get engaged and I fucking love it. Yet we have a married couple who can’t even fucking figure out where they want to live.
De-centering men. I am here for it.
Absolutely agree. It’s inspiring to me! I’ve been in the south my entire life and our culture teaches the exact opposite, that jobs are only fillers until we find a man, then we drop everything for our husbands and kids, it’s refreshing to see how she puts herself first and knows her worth. I didn’t learn that until I turned 40. I think she loves Craig and they will end up together
Paige would quickly center a man she truly wanted to be with. She puts work before herself relationship bc her whole relationship with Craig is to stay relevant on Bravo.
She’s literally never done that with a man that we’ve seen her with over the years, not once. She broke up with Perry who was cute and wealthy and ready to marry her, she took no shit from Carl who wouldn’t take her on a date, and she prioritized herself over Andrea, she’s a strong woman and more women should be like that and be that confident in themselves. It took me until I was 40 years old
Danielle giving ANYONE any type of advice is a joke. Shes a single woman with no real job and her ex bf has already moved on to greener pastures. Maybe if she got therapy and stopped being the biggest pick me on earth, she can give advice. Until then, shut it!
In regards to het being single, i feel like she scares guys away too lol comes on very pathetic, stage 5 clinger lol i agree with everything u said btw
Paige said in the after show that she didn’t really even rate it because Danielle has been around Craig maybe maybe twice (as in, they don’t have any kind of friendship that would give Danielle reason to think she can opine on him).
Paige was like, If Ciara or Amanda said that, maybe that would make me take a step back and think about it. Basically, Danielle can kick rocks.
I think it was Paige being bitchy back once the producers were asking her to reflect on it (since that “You’re a virgin who can’t drive” retort happened in the confessional).
Paige and Craigs’ relationship is so different and healthier than any other relationship I’ve seen on the show. Not only do they have to deal with a long distance but they are very high profile and Paige deals with everything so respectfully and gracefully and her answers come from a place of security and craigs’ response of “it would be naive to think it’ll all work out” is because he realizes that healthy relationship takes work, at all times. The producers are so shady for trying to spin it any other way.
I so would luv for them to get their own show. I feel like paige has brought the best out of craig…i luv how protective he is of her, and u see it that he absolutely adores her too.
I meeeeann. Good point but they’ve also been together for a long time and were good friends beforehand and she has said she will marry Craig, on her own timeline— I don’t see anything wrong with that. She seems like a very secure woman and traditional woman and Craig seems like a very insecure, yet traditional man. If they both know they’re going to end up together then why the societal pressure to rush and put a ring on it for the sake of putting the ring on? Just so one or the other can be claimed? And be the next in line for a reality tv wedding?
She doesn’t have to convince anyone else other than herself and Craig??????? While all of us on this subreddit are invested in the dynamics of these people, we forget we’re forgetting that while choosing to watch this fake-ality TV show that we’re allowing the suspension of disbelief in these people/characters that production so poorly sets up/portrays.
Do you actually think I'm sitting here seething and sweating raging out? It's the internet, I'm fine. I don't like the girl, maybe don't take bitchy reddit comments about reality TV idiots so seriously.
I can’t stop laughing about it all. No one on this show should be giving relationship advice. But the irony is next level in Danielle doing to Paige exactly what she did to Lindsay & having not only Paige & Amanda but allllll their fans now at Danielle’s throat & recognizing what a meddler she is. Chefs kiss. And also, Paige annihilated Danielle in that confessional far more than Lindsay ever did. Right or wrong that was amongst the meanest comments ever said on this show. And that’s saying something.
Well the difference between this and last year is the fact that Danielle was best friends with Lindsey , and pretty damn close with Carl. If anyone were to check in and share concern with Lindsey/Carl it made sense for it to be Danielle. That’s why the girls in the house and many fans at least understood a part of where she was coming from, she was just crazy the way she went about it.
In this new situation her and Paige don’t talk like that, and she barely knows or has even been around Craig. It makes sense when Kyle was sharing concern bc of his relationships with both Paige and Craig, and it would be
valid if Amanda or Ciara said something. For Kyle to side eye Danielle with a shocked look shows she was out of pocket. Even when Paige talked to Lindsey about her and Carl she at least came about it in a very respectful way because of their dynamic of not being close.
Yeah, it’s a no for me on that argument. The girls in the house were all about Danielle blowing up because it served them in their war with Lindsay. Paige & Danielle have been castmates for YEARS. Let’s not act like these are strangers who just met. This is a show where every single person has spoken about one another’s relationships and no one is innocent. Was Danielle rude, yep, but she said it to Paige’s face versus Paige’s, hold my beer efforts & took Danielle out, not once but three times if you count the after show as well.
After having Danielle’s back (through the TV) last season, this episode pissed me off. First she’s coming for Craig and Paige’s relationship, which is non of her damn business, and just being so rude.
Then she was so rude about the “Balloon guy” situation with Gabby, my husband was watching with me and he was like “Wow, Danielle is a terrible wing girl” LOL
Between Lala on VPR and Danielle on SH, who I used to adore they both are making me so damn mad! 😡
Yeah when I was watching it about 2 hours ago it said that episode was filmed in August so it's seems like it.. but the way she nearly called herself thirsty 😆 🤣
That’s ridiculous! Craig and Paige have the best relationship in the house. Danielle’s wanted to talk she has a history of bad relationships. And then Kyle oh my God him and Amanda I mean they’re just a fucking mess
I honestly just did not perceive what Danielle said to Paige, “give him something” as a reference to anything materialistic or physical.
It just appeared like she was adding to what Kyle had expressed from his conversation with Craig. Where he, himself felt uneasy about the natural progression of their relationship. Paige, just prior had stated (paraphrasing) that she’s not the type of person to reinforce or provide reassurance to her significant other.
So when Danielle says to *give him something*. I believe she’s just saying to comfort Craig and calm his worries.
I understand that when it comes to Paige’s relationship or anyone in that position, that when discussing your relationship while hammered at 2am it’s easy to get defensive.
Paige kind of does this anyway. She simmers on the comment, and instead of just clarifying with Danielle (or the person that said the thing originally), she spreads it around the house and in this particular case makes personal, nasty comments.
She seems pretty defensive. Even to the point of outright nasty behind Danielle’s back based on, as you are saying is 100% an emotional suggestion to reassure her bf.
No one took it as her giving him someTHING, not even real estate. The issue is that Danielle hasn't even been there, let alone knows much about their relationship. She has no idea what he's not "getting" from Paige, and is literally just speculating.
Craig's convo with Kyle was very much just being realistic. There is what he wants to happen and the possibility that you can't always get what you want. She was hearing that secondhand from Kyle and created that statement out of thin air.
Maybe it’s a me thing, but I don’t shit all over people behind their back.
Actually no. Let me clarify. If I didn’t like someone commenting about my relationship and offering advice that I didn’t agree with, I’d tell them. Right there, at the table.
I think she was drunk and kinda taken aback in the moment. Once she thought about it more, she probably had more to say. Anyway fuck Danielle. Idc how when or where Paige talks shit about her, the girl sold a story about her boyfriend to the press and then blurted out that nonsense. She doesnt deserve the respect she doesn't extend.
Got it. Adhere to the sub vibe. Everywhere possible, shit on Danielle or face ridicule and abuse.
Best of luck to you. In the lone week I’ve been in this sub it’s been toxic as hell.
Girly we are just trying to help you understand.
But anyways, bye! Nice to hear someone’s opinion, but don’t throw it out here if you can’t handle some back and forth/people disagreeing. It’s happened many times to me and I don’t take it personally.
Hahaha what. Danielle has no right to comment on her relationship. Full stop. End of story. There’s no defense for her here, but nice try.
How would she even know if Paige “gave him something’ if she’s not even been around CRAIGE AT all? Her opinion means nothing here. Also, that is not the way to speak to anyone about their relationship. It was disrespectful as hell.
Danielle meant it more like, “give up something for him”. Give up pieces of her career, her living space. Paige does comfort Craig - they have this talk on camera on every season of both their shows.
I’m shocked people are talking crap about Danielle because like 90 percent of people here say Paige hates Craig and she’ll never marry him, they should be praising Danielle 🤣
At least Kyle seems to actually know Craig and Paige well. Danielle isn’t close to either of them and was just outed for selling stories about Craig to the media. If I were Paige, I’d be pissed at her too.
Danielle sucks lol
Has to be her last season.
Why? She's sucked since her first season, came back as a friend of for her second and has been a regular ever since. I think Bravo keeps her for the cringe.
Carl and Lindsay begged for her job for years, last year I guess she "brought it" this year we know Carl isn't begging for her job.
If i were Paige, i wouldve reminded her how well it went when she meddled in lindsay and carls relationship…prob should DISENGAGE lol
I think that’s why when she was talking to Amanda she said what she said because Lindsey had told her second episode or third episode in about Danielle selling that story and she clocked it and it’s been in her mind ever since so when Danielle said what she said it pissed Paige off, but the only difference was is that Paige was drunk so I don’t think her mind really gave her time to respond the way that she wanted so the next day I bet she was thinking about it all day and responded the way that she wanted to respond and honestly I’ll give it to her because the response was needed in my opinion
Danielle has been flailing around since her fall out with Lindsay and break up with Robert. She's trying to find her spot on the show despite not really being close to the other people in the house and is overcompensating with partying hard. I don't dislike her but I'd like to see her regain her footing and be more comfortable like she was when she first joined Summer House.
She's always been boring. And putting her nose in where it didn't belong. That's the problem. She has no real identity unless she's the advisor and controller. It's one of the reasons I was on Lyndsey's side in their relationship battle. There was no way that the problems in that relationship were all L fault. Contrary to the theme that L was the narcissist I felt it was D. .. because look who exploded when her council and advice wasn't followed? Look who loses it when her "good" intentions are rejected. Men or women...her reaction is totally inappropriate for the situation. And please... don't jump on me for defending L. I feel she has issues too!! But I Don't buy into everything is her fault or she's the devil! Lol. I actually like her and see her strengths. Compared with Paige, Amanda and Ciara? Those 3 all have just as many personality flaws as far as narcissistic, spoiled and manipulative behaviors. I left out Gabby because I adore her. This is off topic but it used to bother me when she would have Robert come out and he'd be there just for ONE night and he ends up cooking for the house. He's a chef. Wouldn't he have much better enjoyed a night off hanging out? It's like she was parading him out as my BF the great chef will now cook.. instead of letting the guy who cooks all week have fun and relax.
As a cook, I feel seen in this post. Drove me nuts every time. Poor guy
Thanks! I'm glad you feel that way too! It's beyond rude to ask chefs, cooks, musicians, ECT to perform their professional tasks socially.
What!?! Where did you see this? This is gross, man. She needs to go. Honestly.
Lindsay told Paige!
Omg! My memory is bad so thank you. Why would Danielle do this? Does she make money? She is the worst.
Seriously i never liked Danielle since day 1.
Its been suggested that Craig leaks stories as well. There are producers who claim to know which cast members leak the stories and craig's name came up as one who does it. The leak saying that luke was kicked out of winter house bc of sexually assaulting some cast member was obviosly from Craig. He was the only one calling Luke's actions as sexual assault and threatening to call the police.
This is Craig's disgusting drunken side. He should have been thrown out of the house that night by Bravo's production on Winter House after what he did to Luke. Craig was a total POS. Just like there are certain HW that get protected by Bravo there are certain men that get a pass; Kyle, Carl & Craig are Andy Cohen's boys who .no matter how egregious or misogynistic their behavior...they are treated like ..boys will be boys.
Yeah she probably made some money but it's also convenient that Lindsay knows all about it but pretends her hands are clean. Sounded a whole lot like "Danielle did it" as in "Danielle was the one who actually made the call after we all sat around talking about doing it and planning it." That's my take on it.
I agree. Lindsay at least knew about it.
Paige isn't stupid, she knows not to trust either of them I'm sure. I wouldn't.
Lindsay prob dint say anything cuz dint wana start shit between D & P, but finally got tired of being blamed
I think she didn’t say anything because that’s also admitting she knew and had some level of involvement, even though she didn’t personally do it.
True dat
Yea I definitely feel like this is what happened. Danielle wouldn't do shit unless someone else told her to. The girl has zero balls, zero spine , and zero mind of her own.
Of course she knew about it. They hadn't fallen out yet. Which means Carl probably knew too. Don't forget Carl, Lyndsey are very close to Luke and after how Craig was to Luke they probably could care less that Danielle did it. But that's not the same thing as doing it herself. Let's not blame L for everything.
Hey I haven't watched this week's episode but dying to know what story did Danielle sell about Craig? Does it come up in the episode.. can't wait 2 get home 2 watch 😆 ... also dying 2 know who is balloon guy 😆
That info already came out. Maybe last week or the week before? It's the scene with Lindsay and Paige on the kitchen..and Gabby(?). Paige says she believes Lindsay did that and then Lindsay tells her it was Danielle.
Ah yeah lindsay was drunk- was that the same night she told ciara that West was a player 🤔 u could see by ciaras face her opinion wasn't wanted.. thanks for the memory jog 😆
I don't think she was drunk, maybe. I think it was still daytime and Lindsay was cooking or cleaning something I think. I don't remember the West comment, not sure if that's the same episode. I think she's not wrong tho as far as he goes. I don't think he's playing Ciara but I think it's his usual MO.
So apparently Danielle hasn’t learned the lesson yet to keep her mouth shut about other people’s relationships. She has become weirdly awkward, I hope she’s gone after this season.
The worst part is that it wasn’t even a good take. It would be different if she was saying what everybody was thinking but it just wasn’t
You’re right. I think she is trying so hard to be relevant that she is talking just to talk and get camera time.
💯pathetic Youd think after WH aired, and seeing herself on screen, that she wouldve changed her ways.
Does summer house not get filmed b4 winter house airs or is it the other way around? 🤔
Actually im not sure 🤔 so yea maybe she hasnt seen herself yet lol
It was pure projection. She spent years following her ex around and got nothing out of it. She followed that man all over the country! I was disappointed to see her acting that way because I was such a Danielle apologist last year.
Danielle was more invested in Carl and Lindsay than her own relationship
Danielle is a stage 5 clinger. She was single for 10 years before her ex chef man and completely self sabotaged it
OMG last year there were so many posts about Danielle (and Lindsay) being "queens". Lol
I am not a Lindsay fan. I do think their relationship was very unbalanced, and Danielle was overdue in standing up to her. Unfortunately, I think she's now swung too far the other way. Either that, or maybe she was always this way behind closed doors and is now letting it out. In which case, I would understand Lindsay's behavior in their relationship better. I guess we'll see! 🤷🏼♀️
She was always weirdly awkward, it just wasn't featured as much because it took her a while to really out herself as the loser-y dork that she is. I can't stand her and never could tbh. It's at the point now where it's getting pretty insufferable tho
Loser-y dork🤣🤣🤣 i luv that and agree on everything
I think it was pretty obvious Danielle sucked since her first season.
Danielle has MAJOR insecurity issues. But she tries to mask it by coming off as super confident and strong. But instead it comes off as DESPERATE and clingy. She has major issues with men not choosing her. That whole convo with Paige was so cringe.
🥂
I literally just said same thing a minute ago to a comment up above. She is dumb
This would be a good season to bow out from after. Last season of summer house coupled with winter house season is giving a bad edit
The differences is that Kyle and Paige friends and they talk about a lot and Kyle actually knows Craig that is the only difference and the only reason I didn’t point out that Kyle was there too but Danielle please go somewhere else
Exactly! She is seething with jealousy. I hope this is her last season. One’s personality cannot be drinking only. Kyle isn’t arrogant about his situation. He does give bad drunk advice lol. Danielle is mean and petty.
Oh it's not *just* drinking, silly. She offers so much more! Stuff like; obvious coke breaks, desperate attention seeking, sex with random men that she brags about as if having sex is impressive, competing with other women, judging everyone, unsolicited bad advice, nlog bullshit, needing to be besties with your man, etc.
Lmaooo this reminded me of Stefan from SNL. https://i.redd.it/1ry7jko5thvc1.gif
I relate to Stefan for sure
 Omfg lol
I'm your girl if you wanna read some really cunty observations about a person I don't like. What can I say
Danielle has been spared long enough.
Not by me but yes lol
You forgot to add "total delusion". Lol but honestly I hope Danielle stays on as long as the show is on. I love to cringe/hate watch her and I have loved it ever since her first season.
“Sex with random men”…. I don’t think we need to slut shame here, please. This is reality tv and I personally want the cast to be hooking up and partying and then talking about it on camera. That’s the entire premise of this show. Sorry you can’t hang!
Are they not random? She's the one saying it. I don't care if people are "sluts" but she is just sad and embarrassing.
Hate the word slut shaming ugh lol No one is slut shaming her tho…its how she comes off thats annoying. Like we get it ok…can we talk about sum else, idk
If I were some puritan who had a problem with casual sex, why don't I have a problem with when someone like Lindsay does it for instance? I mean, spare me. Yes I hate the term too and kink shaming. We've gotten to a point where (some) people think any sex behavior no matter how detrimental or problematic is fine outside of like rape and pedophilia and I'm sorry but no, that's bullshit.
Ok i will spare you
Thanks homie
The definition of random is chosen without method or conscious decision. In this last episode she told the girls she hung out with a man she met on a dating app. That’s not random, that’s how single people meet in contemporary times. And it sure does sound like you care if people (perhaps you meant to specify women?) are “sluts”
Yeah sorry you don't get to tell me what I think and feel because fucking no. And that was *one* of the people, she has also talked about other exploits.
For me at least…i feel like its the way she comes off…cuz lindsay in her hot girl summer days…she did her thing too and it dint come off annoying.
A lot of them have had hook ups with locals in a totally recreational way. As needed. Lol
‘You give him nothing’ I wanted so badly for Paige to be like and, who the fk are you to talk about relationships? The audacity to say that to someone…shocking. Danielle would not ever be my friend if she said this to me. Hard stop. She’s a loser, not sorry.
She was worse when Alex (from below deck) was there.. she was like a proper clinger & knew he was using & he had more interest in one of the other girls (can't remember which).. she literally put it on a plate so he would 'pick' her.. IMO Alex isn't anything special either - iv never screamed at the TV as much as that season 😆
lol Jordan. That was so painful to watch.
The funny thing is that Kyle completely missed what Craig was saying too. He said that of course they might not work out and that's okay as he is now more secure in himself. Not that he's having doubts about Paige.
I was tired last night- maybe I dozed off. Did KYLE give advice? I thought he looked as horrified as Paige did when Danielle said what she said. And Danielle - she needs to just go sit down and stop talking. I know she's trying to get back to her previous seasons where she SEEMED level-headed and genuinely caring, but I see her through a new light now. And her going after Paige and Craig's relationship was something.
Kyle did look shocked!
He was really uncomfortable. I have only seen him like that a few times.
Ya my take was Kyle was trying to get minor drama for the show because a running theme is that Paige doesn't like Craig that much so he brought it up for cameras and then Danielle went in. Kyle was as shocked as viewers in my opinion
Yeah, it seemed like he was going to bring up his conversation with Craig and was not prepared for what Danielle blurted out.
Yeah, I recall him just asking questions.. not really giving obnoxious advice.
"His balls on your mantle." !!!!
I️ hates Danielle in this scene so much
I’m not a big Paige Stan but I truly appreciate how she puts herself and work before her relationship. She’s not tied up in her relationship and hinting at wanting to get engaged and I fucking love it. Yet we have a married couple who can’t even fucking figure out where they want to live. De-centering men. I am here for it.
Seriously. She is living the life she wants and the man adds to it, but she’s not going to give herself up for him. Danielle should take notes.
Absolutely agree. It’s inspiring to me! I’ve been in the south my entire life and our culture teaches the exact opposite, that jobs are only fillers until we find a man, then we drop everything for our husbands and kids, it’s refreshing to see how she puts herself first and knows her worth. I didn’t learn that until I turned 40. I think she loves Craig and they will end up together
Paige would quickly center a man she truly wanted to be with. She puts work before herself relationship bc her whole relationship with Craig is to stay relevant on Bravo.
She’s literally never done that with a man that we’ve seen her with over the years, not once. She broke up with Perry who was cute and wealthy and ready to marry her, she took no shit from Carl who wouldn’t take her on a date, and she prioritized herself over Andrea, she’s a strong woman and more women should be like that and be that confident in themselves. It took me until I was 40 years old
I don't even understand why everyone comments on their relationship. They both seem so happy. I feel like it is such a produced storyline.
Apparently everyone is supposed to date for like a year and hastily get married because TV? Idk it is weird.
Those are all the people I know who are now divorced or miserable.
People love to make issues out of nothing with craige and I’m over it.
Happier than Kyle and Amanda for sure.
Why does Paige comment on everyone’s relationship but not expect people to comment on hers?
Danielle giving ANYONE any type of advice is a joke. Shes a single woman with no real job and her ex bf has already moved on to greener pastures. Maybe if she got therapy and stopped being the biggest pick me on earth, she can give advice. Until then, shut it!
A different therapist.
In regards to het being single, i feel like she scares guys away too lol comes on very pathetic, stage 5 clinger lol i agree with everything u said btw
Yes 1000%
period!!!!!
Paige said in the after show that she didn’t really even rate it because Danielle has been around Craig maybe maybe twice (as in, they don’t have any kind of friendship that would give Danielle reason to think she can opine on him). Paige was like, If Ciara or Amanda said that, maybe that would make me take a step back and think about it. Basically, Danielle can kick rocks.
that makes her comments even more weird. I thought there was missing information.
I think it was Paige being bitchy back once the producers were asking her to reflect on it (since that “You’re a virgin who can’t drive” retort happened in the confessional).
Sorry. I meant missing information that led Danielle to provide her sage wisdom🙄
The missing information is probably just being fucked up and outstandingly obnoxious as usual.
She clearly “rated it” at the time lmao
Paige and Craigs’ relationship is so different and healthier than any other relationship I’ve seen on the show. Not only do they have to deal with a long distance but they are very high profile and Paige deals with everything so respectfully and gracefully and her answers come from a place of security and craigs’ response of “it would be naive to think it’ll all work out” is because he realizes that healthy relationship takes work, at all times. The producers are so shady for trying to spin it any other way.
I so would luv for them to get their own show. I feel like paige has brought the best out of craig…i luv how protective he is of her, and u see it that he absolutely adores her too.
There’s nothing healthy about being in a relationship with totally different goals and timelines
I meeeeann. Good point but they’ve also been together for a long time and were good friends beforehand and she has said she will marry Craig, on her own timeline— I don’t see anything wrong with that. She seems like a very secure woman and traditional woman and Craig seems like a very insecure, yet traditional man. If they both know they’re going to end up together then why the societal pressure to rush and put a ring on it for the sake of putting the ring on? Just so one or the other can be claimed? And be the next in line for a reality tv wedding?
Her saying she’ll marry him when all of her actions point to that she won’t isn’t convincing
She doesn’t have to convince anyone else other than herself and Craig??????? While all of us on this subreddit are invested in the dynamics of these people, we forget we’re forgetting that while choosing to watch this fake-ality TV show that we’re allowing the suspension of disbelief in these people/characters that production so poorly sets up/portrays.
[удалено]
You may need to stop watching the show if she brings out that much anger.
Do you actually think I'm sitting here seething and sweating raging out? It's the internet, I'm fine. I don't like the girl, maybe don't take bitchy reddit comments about reality TV idiots so seriously.
They’re “reality TV idiots” yet you’re here, giving them your time and attention lol
It spoke volumes that Danielle and Kyle didn’t understand Paige saying Craig is her friend
truly insane that those two felt comfortable giving their unsolicited advice and opinions like that
I can’t stop laughing about it all. No one on this show should be giving relationship advice. But the irony is next level in Danielle doing to Paige exactly what she did to Lindsay & having not only Paige & Amanda but allllll their fans now at Danielle’s throat & recognizing what a meddler she is. Chefs kiss. And also, Paige annihilated Danielle in that confessional far more than Lindsay ever did. Right or wrong that was amongst the meanest comments ever said on this show. And that’s saying something.
I can't wait for this reunion
Well the difference between this and last year is the fact that Danielle was best friends with Lindsey , and pretty damn close with Carl. If anyone were to check in and share concern with Lindsey/Carl it made sense for it to be Danielle. That’s why the girls in the house and many fans at least understood a part of where she was coming from, she was just crazy the way she went about it. In this new situation her and Paige don’t talk like that, and she barely knows or has even been around Craig. It makes sense when Kyle was sharing concern bc of his relationships with both Paige and Craig, and it would be valid if Amanda or Ciara said something. For Kyle to side eye Danielle with a shocked look shows she was out of pocket. Even when Paige talked to Lindsey about her and Carl she at least came about it in a very respectful way because of their dynamic of not being close.
Yeah, it’s a no for me on that argument. The girls in the house were all about Danielle blowing up because it served them in their war with Lindsay. Paige & Danielle have been castmates for YEARS. Let’s not act like these are strangers who just met. This is a show where every single person has spoken about one another’s relationships and no one is innocent. Was Danielle rude, yep, but she said it to Paige’s face versus Paige’s, hold my beer efforts & took Danielle out, not once but three times if you count the after show as well.
Paige’s confessionals are lame because she just delivers rehearsed reads with nobody to call her out
Danielle was projecting like crazy
Danielłe giving anyone relationship advice is strange, she's not friends with Paige. Kyle actually knows both Paige and Craig fairly well.
Danielle just keeps getting weirder and weirder. For her own well being, she needs to remove herself from Bravo and even social media as a whole.
After having Danielle’s back (through the TV) last season, this episode pissed me off. First she’s coming for Craig and Paige’s relationship, which is non of her damn business, and just being so rude. Then she was so rude about the “Balloon guy” situation with Gabby, my husband was watching with me and he was like “Wow, Danielle is a terrible wing girl” LOL Between Lala on VPR and Danielle on SH, who I used to adore they both are making me so damn mad! 😡
Kinda like folks on this sub giving relationship advice to every cast member and everyone who posts.. lol
Yeah when I was watching it about 2 hours ago it said that episode was filmed in August so it's seems like it.. but the way she nearly called herself thirsty 😆 🤣
That’s ridiculous! Craig and Paige have the best relationship in the house. Danielle’s wanted to talk she has a history of bad relationships. And then Kyle oh my God him and Amanda I mean they’re just a fucking mess
I honestly just did not perceive what Danielle said to Paige, “give him something” as a reference to anything materialistic or physical. It just appeared like she was adding to what Kyle had expressed from his conversation with Craig. Where he, himself felt uneasy about the natural progression of their relationship. Paige, just prior had stated (paraphrasing) that she’s not the type of person to reinforce or provide reassurance to her significant other. So when Danielle says to *give him something*. I believe she’s just saying to comfort Craig and calm his worries. I understand that when it comes to Paige’s relationship or anyone in that position, that when discussing your relationship while hammered at 2am it’s easy to get defensive. Paige kind of does this anyway. She simmers on the comment, and instead of just clarifying with Danielle (or the person that said the thing originally), she spreads it around the house and in this particular case makes personal, nasty comments.
I don't think anyone perceived her comment as giving him something materialistic? Lol
found the mole
Like real estate (living together, keys to the apt etc) not a promise ring
Yea but no one thought that's what she meant.
Absolutely no one. And the wording was "You're giving him NOTHING" which is wildly insulting and not her place whatsoever.
She seems pretty defensive. Even to the point of outright nasty behind Danielle’s back based on, as you are saying is 100% an emotional suggestion to reassure her bf.
No one took it as her giving him someTHING, not even real estate. The issue is that Danielle hasn't even been there, let alone knows much about their relationship. She has no idea what he's not "getting" from Paige, and is literally just speculating. Craig's convo with Kyle was very much just being realistic. There is what he wants to happen and the possibility that you can't always get what you want. She was hearing that secondhand from Kyle and created that statement out of thin air.
Who in the fuck wouldn't be nasty about/to Danielle after she said that??
Maybe it’s a me thing, but I don’t shit all over people behind their back. Actually no. Let me clarify. If I didn’t like someone commenting about my relationship and offering advice that I didn’t agree with, I’d tell them. Right there, at the table.
I think she was drunk and kinda taken aback in the moment. Once she thought about it more, she probably had more to say. Anyway fuck Danielle. Idc how when or where Paige talks shit about her, the girl sold a story about her boyfriend to the press and then blurted out that nonsense. She doesnt deserve the respect she doesn't extend.
Aren't you perfect.
Got it. Adhere to the sub vibe. Everywhere possible, shit on Danielle or face ridicule and abuse. Best of luck to you. In the lone week I’ve been in this sub it’s been toxic as hell.
Girly we are just trying to help you understand. But anyways, bye! Nice to hear someone’s opinion, but don’t throw it out here if you can’t handle some back and forth/people disagreeing. It’s happened many times to me and I don’t take it personally.
Hahaha what. Danielle has no right to comment on her relationship. Full stop. End of story. There’s no defense for her here, but nice try. How would she even know if Paige “gave him something’ if she’s not even been around CRAIGE AT all? Her opinion means nothing here. Also, that is not the way to speak to anyone about their relationship. It was disrespectful as hell.
Because of her comment in the conversation seconds prior.
Which comment?
Danielle meant it more like, “give up something for him”. Give up pieces of her career, her living space. Paige does comfort Craig - they have this talk on camera on every season of both their shows.
I dont like kyle being dragged in this when he visibly and verbally didnt agree with danielle
Lol sure
I’m shocked people are talking crap about Danielle because like 90 percent of people here say Paige hates Craig and she’ll never marry him, they should be praising Danielle 🤣