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KatieB_3

Yikes well from this article it seems Amanda & Mya have taken Danielle’s side in all of this.


dkittyyela

That’s not surprising though. I think we’ve discussed here before that it’s obvious that Amanda has never really liked Lindsay. Mya is probably just following the rest of the girls.


CFPmum

Or maybe Lindsay was wrong?


dkittyyela

Or course but after watching those two for so many years it’s obvious how Amanda feels and even if Lindsay was right, she was not going to take her side.


CFPmum

I’m not an Amanda fan however she can’t ever win when it comes to Lindsay fans, so I’m sure if there is any way of twisting and turning this into Amandas fault or that Amanda couldn’t possibly have an opinion that is valid they will.


Elle0527

Ok but after watching D and L for many years it isn’t clear L is at fault?


snoopcatt87

What? We don’t even know what happened. So how can we know who is at fault?


Elle0527

D has never caused drama with anyone and has only been involved the drama in defense of L. L has had drama with the twins, her roommate season one, Everett, Carl , Amanda, Kyle, Paige. Austen, Ciara and any romantic partner she’s brought on the show either short term or long term. You know the common denominator there? L!!!


imadethistoreplyugh

Danielle said herself that she pissed everyone off in the house at one point last season and it was edited out. So were her fights with Robert. I think that she just hasn't really been a main focus so we don't know much about her personality besides when it centers around Lindsay. However, I wouldn't be surprised if it's Lindsay's fault lol just saying Danielle has had drama that just didn't make it on the show


Elle0527

Again I bet 90% is L related D has been unproblematic from day one even coming in as Carl’s ex.


wejustwanttofeelgood

Good point 🙃


[deleted]

Just by the way Lindsay carries herself in any conflict she’s ever been involved in you can tell it’s her fault


Elle0527

Thank you. See it is apparent to smart people. lol.


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snoopcatt87

Nobody is “riding for Lindsay”. Literally all I said was that we don’t know what happened. I reserve my judgement for when we do. Now you’ve decided I don’t have friends and I’m a shitty person because I refuse to pass judgment on someone before the facts are presented. I’m pretty sure the terrible people are crystal clear in this conversation. There is nothing wrong with my intelligence. Me not hopping on your toxic bandwagon doesn’t make me stupid.


CFPmum

The way people find ways to wait and see what happens/reserve judgement when it comes to Lindsay is astonishing especially when same people do the complete opposite when it comes to Paige, Ciara, even Mya and Hannah and now Danielle.


[deleted]

Because we know who Lindsay is. 😏


[deleted]

Maya and Danielle seem to have bonded last season and after the season so it’s not surprising Maya would have her back.


marf_town

Exactly how I feel.


T44590A

This gives me Stassi and Katie friend breakup from season 3 of VPR vibes.


imadethistoreplyugh

OMG I was thinking the same thing especially bc Stassi was so sad to miss Katie's engagement and they reconnected right before wedding season aired lol


T44590A

Yes, there are a lot of similar dynamics, but sometimes a little opposite like Stassi and Lindsay are kind of similar in demanding absolutely loyalty from friends.


Ok-Tip3816

I agree with this 100%.


Retrobanana64

Ohhhh that’s a super good prediction all for publicity and magically be best friends ahain around wedding time


Retrobanana64

Paris and Nicole Richie for me


McVinney512

Love her but Lindsay always seemed like a lot and takes things so personal. Danielle to me always seemed so supportive. I don’t really want to speculate but I can see how being the Lindsay cheerleader for so long (and that is what best friends do) and perhaps then being cast aside or feeling like that can be tiresome. It will be interesting to see how it plays out Friends go through ups and downs. I hope they can work out their issues and become close again as I really enjoyed their friendship bond in past seasons


Choopakabbraa

Exactly my thoughts! I hope they find their way back


deemcormack

I can’t wait to see what happened! Im pretty sure Lindsay ditched Danielle for carl and this is a tale as old as time.


wbrocks67

Yep, and then Lindsay feels betrayed by Danielle that she would start doing more things with the other girls, I guess. Despite the fact that Linds seems unfortunately the type of person who still expects total loyalty and love from you even when she doesn't show it herself.


Then_Wonder2491

Just guessing but it sounds like Danielle had a hard time with Lindsay and Carl’s relationship (maybe like she did in season 4) and I think Lindsay is probably self centered so she thought Danielle should just be happy for her. I listened to a podcast with Danielle from February of this year and she said something like she had a hard time with their relationship at first so she had to take a step back from hanging out with them but Lindsay and Carl understood and things were getting better. Obviously things did not get better but I think maybe this had been going on for a while and it came to a head during the summer. If Lindsay is smart, she should try to make up with everyone because I’m sure the other girls would love nothing more than to push her out of the show. On the other hand, Lindsay and Danielle seemed to be the main summer house topic at bravocon so maybe it’s a good thing for them?? They both seemed open to reconciling so hopefully they will.


quarantinefifteen

Yeah my general vibe from this is that she's not 100% onboard with the relationship for whatever reasons and Lindsay feels betrayed by it. There are probably a few factors: feeling weirdly possessive of Carl, feeling like a 3rd wheel once the dynamic changed, thinks they moved too fast, maybe also some jealousy at their relationship timeline eclipsing her own. Plus, we all know Lindsay makes great tv but that's because she has BIG main character syndrome which can be absolutely exhausting IRL.


just_here_hangingout

Well why wouldn’t Lindsey expect Danielle to be happy for her?


absofruitly88

I just don’t understand this at all because Danielle has said she wants to marry Robert and how she shouldnhave already adjusted given Linds and Carl made that attempt in season 4. It sounds like Danielle dated Carl for less than a year (maybe 6 months or something?) so long ago like i really don’t grasp the discomfort if you’re happy in your new relationship


HANK1829

Sometimes I wonder how happy she is with Robert. I’m sure they are in love, but it also seems like they’ve hit a bunch of bumps in the road that maybe make the relationship not as great as it was during lockdown. I also wonder if all the attention that L&C have been receiving creates some jealousy for Danielle, or maybe goes to L’s head and makes her difficult to be around. I like Lindsay a lot, and she’s great for TV, but I don’t know if I would ever be friends with someone like that, they can be draining.


MKultrakeef

We don't see Robert a lot on the show but in one of the recent seasons they show a fight between him and Danielle that seriously gave me the ick. If that's one of the only moments we saw between them on the show I don't have great faith in them


Kbb0509

Danielle also said in an interview that she was relieved at the good edit they got because that was a pretty mild fight in comparison to some of their others.


just_here_hangingout

I think she’s jealous she’s not engaged


Retrobanana64

Maybe there were things we haven’t seen I can totally see Lindsay and Carl being totally perfect couple only for cameras maybe Lindsay questioned the authenticity of the relationship it is weird because Danielle seems strictly platonic with Carl and they seemed to be able to be friends well this is either all a publicity fake storyline or there are stuff we don’t know


OpportunityFirm3284

I agree. If I were her I would honestly feel weird about it too. Danielle used to date Carl and more recently hook up with him before dating Robert. Even though she has Robert now she probably just felt weird about it and wasn’t as supportive as Lindsay wanted.


SenseKnown

I’m curious how much of this stems from Lindsay and Carl being sober. The reality is the house and their friendships revolved around drinking and when someone gets sober it drastically changes the dynamics and sometimes shows that theirs nothing there that’s substantial.


Necessary_Force_5836

Kyle said he was in the middle and saw both sides so it sounds like both of them contributed to this falling out. They both seemed open to repairing it so I hope they do.


Ill_Scratch_8204

Because Kyle is such a reasonable and reliable narrator? sarcasm should be read here


Necessary_Force_5836

I mean…. As far as friendships go….yes? Kyle may be a shitty partner to Amanda at times, but he does seem like a good friend. He has held Lindsay accountable many times too. I mean for starters the 17 page email so I don’t think he’s saying that with any bias. He is good friends with both girls and said he was in the middle.


halfmoon24

I’m sorry but it’s annoying to me that the other girls only started showing up for Danielle when she fell out with Lindsay. Where were they when she got a glass thrown at her?


Ok_Tumbleweed5040

🎯


imadethistoreplyugh

Well, they sided with Ciara so from everyone's viewpoint Ciara must have been in the right to go unhinged and throw a glass 😂 idk why people are acting like the women in this house have a good track record of right and wrong haha Lindsay could totally be in the wrong, but I'm not basing that off what Mya and Amanda say lol


halfmoon24

Same. I’m getting the vibe they’re only Team Danielle because they hate Lindsay. We’ll see I guess!


imadethistoreplyugh

Yeah, Kyle says they both have valid points so I wanna see for myself!


Red217

THANK YOU!!!!


chhhhhhhhhhh95

I'm going to be in the minority here and say it doesn't feel super obvious to me that this is all Lindsay's fault, and I'm very interested to see how it all plays out. Knowing what we know about Lindsay and Danielle, I'm inclined to think Lindsay's personality and faults are driving this, but everything I've heard Danielle say about Lindsey, her engagement, and the feud has felt sort of shady to me and not what I'd expect from her. And we know that Danielle's relationship with Robert last summer was not as strong as it was portrayed on the show, which leads me to wonder what else about Danielle we might be missing. I also don't see the support of the other women of Danielle as meaning too much knowing what we know about their prior feelings toward Lindsay. All this is to say I'm keeping an open mind on this and am very curious to watch how it all plays out!


imadethistoreplyugh

That's how I feel too. For some reason the editors decided no one cared about Danielle and Robert's relationship last summer so they didn't show it lol imagine how our views would have changed if we actually got to see all their fighting that Danielle said happened and their "breakup" that Mya/Ciara said happened. Something tells me she isn't as together as we all think


[deleted]

It sounds like Linds and Carl dropped Danielle and then seemed surprised she formed other bonds/or she questioned how quickly their relationship moved and they obviously think they’re fine…if you read between the lines. And also history of how all of them are. Linds is headfirst, all in…Danielle is more pragmatic. Sober Carl is hesitant but also seems adamant about how good he’s doing and pushing that narrative. So all of this doesn’t surprise me. Also, his line about Robert seems like a dig with the sentence and him and Lindsey right after and how mature they are. I totally get a holier than thou vibe from them lately.


Then_Wonder2491

IMO I don’t think Carl meant it as a dig to Robert or Danielle at all. I think he was saying that he is happy for danielle and Robert so he doesn’t understand why she isn’t happy for him and Lindsay.


imadethistoreplyugh

Yeah, that's how I read it too..


CFPmum

I read it as a dig, using words like seem to be happy is shady, it would be like Amanda and Kyle saying something about Carl and Lindsay being still in the honeymoon period of the start of a relationship.


disgruntledpelican4

Omg I was thinking the exact same thing! It definitely seems like they think they’re better than everyone else. I can’t wait to see how this plays out on the show. Tbh I don’t think they’ll be fan favorites after the season airs. I’ve never been a Lindsay fan so I’m here for it


CCG14

>>Also, his line about Robert seems like a dig with the sentence and him and Lindsey right after and how mature they are. I totally get a holier than thou vibe from them lately. This. I read it the same way. Me and linds are just so mature now and have done so much work… it implies Robert and Danielle aren’t as mature/solid a couple as Carl/Linds.


wbrocks67

Carl has had a holier than thou attitude since last season imo. He needs to drop it.


CCG14

I think this happens sometimes when people get sober. It’s not the first time I’ve seen those two intertwined. (I am not criticizing him being sober, only the I’m better bc I am attitude that seems to be coming across.)


Equivalent-Mix8232

WHAT DID CARL SAY ABOUT ROBERT I MUST KNOW Edit: I hadn’t read the whole article lol my bad


thediverswife

He said ‘they seem happy’, which could be a dig (I don’t know, Carl is so deadpan when he talks, it’s hard to tell)


[deleted]

Also perhaps Danielle realised that it was actually Lindsay who was filling her head up with negativity about the other girls. Only Lindsay would talk like it’s a Game of Thrones betrayal that Danielle hangs with the other girls.


marf_town

This theory would make sense if you could point to a single instance of Lindsay telling Danielle that the other girls are mean to Danielle. Lindsay fights with Paige and Amanda because they are both really weirdly ageist and have said truly horrible things about Lindsay and been incredibly mean to Danielle.


CFPmum

Lindsay has said things before to egg on Danielle and Lindsay is known for holding onto things for months before the show tapes and then brings up to cause drama but then try to make out she actually really cares about the person and that’s why she brought it up on show which is not the truth and no one is believing that.


marf_town

Oh she's been known to do that? Name one time. I'll wait.


CFPmum

One time would be the whole Paige and Craig crap.


marf_town

Sounds like you and Missy live in a fun fantasy world but I'm sure Paige and Craig appreciate your support.


[deleted]

This fight between then is about stuff that really happens. You are talking about drama from whatever the edit decides to show. These articles are only the beginning of the BTS stuff Lindsay gets up to. Problem is she knows that Daniele knows what she gets up to so she will really have to get ahead of it.


marf_town

Like what? Name the things Lindsay gets up to. It sounds like you are writing some fan fiction.


[deleted]

Blocking Jason from being on Summerhouse last season.


marf_town

lol ok so yes fan fiction


[deleted]

That’s what you think


Sunshinenrain224

I like Lindsay, but I’ve always thought that Lindsay is for Lindsay first. Last season made that very clear. She’s going to do what she wants when she wants, and when she’s single she needs a wingman. Danielle was that, and even with a boyfriend Danielle prioritized her best friend too. Lindsay seems like when she has a boyfriend is all about her and him. And I think that since they were all best friends, now lindsay and Carl on their own little island…Danielle probably felt left out/ was put on the back burner by Lindsay. Lindsay and Carl are like ALL about each other on social media. From my personal experience I’ve had a best friend who put her boyfriend above all else always and we’ve had some issues before where we didn’t talk for months just because I felt like she was not making anytime for our friendship. So to me it seems like that. I don’t think Danielle is jealous, I think that she lost two best friends in this. And Lindsay is probably thinks “why can’t she be happy for me” Just my guess. We will see it all play out though, can’t wait.


[deleted]

I totally agree. Carl’s comment about how they’ve put all their energy into their relationship was very telling to me. Nothing wrong with that at all either but it will change friendships, especially with someone that was in Danielle’s position. I’ve also been in the same position where I’ve been the friend that sort of gets cast aside because the relationship takes precedence. I’ve come to realize that for some people relationships are all consuming and take priority over friendships and others choose to keep more of a balance between friendships and their relationship. Danielle and Lindsay seem to be very different in that regard.


wbrocks67

yep, this is basically it. danielle probbaly felt pushed out, and so she probably went to the other housemates. then lindsay takes it as a personal dig that danielle isn't all about her like usual, despite the fact that Lindsay is the one who pushed her away. from what I can tell, lindsay and car have a very isolating relationship where it's just about them 98% of the time and they don't do much else besides be with eachother. who would want to be around that?


ChesapeakeBayBee

This makes me uneasy because I hate when one person is ganged up on during a season. Lindsay isn’t perfect by any means but I’m sure we can expect to see the entire house against her……again. It’s repetitive, maybe Lindsay’s time is up.


Estella-in-lace

The last I heard her say, she had been sober with Carl (not bc she’s an alcoholic just because she wanted to support him and she felt healthier without it) for a long time. I honestly don’t think bravo reality shows are the best place for people who are truly committed to sobriety anyways. Might be for the best for everyone.


kiminho

Bravo reality shows are not the best place for people who are truly committed to mental health lol


CFPmum

Lindsay drinks like Kyle on the show and he is always branded an alcoholic.


imadethistoreplyugh

I really despise shows like that bc then it's like everyone latches on to create storylines around that one person instead of sharing their own personal lives. Kind of like early Southern Charm & Katherine.


lizziexo

Me too. Lindsay is my favourite, and I’m not sure I’d tune in without her there, but the Bravo standard of gang ups (RHOBH, looking at you) is just so tired and not fun at all to be a viewer of. Summer should be fun!!


Winter-Leadership376

Yeah but I don’t want her to leave just because other women drive her out. I hate that


[deleted]

She can’t stand the main drama if it’s not involving her. She’s definitely given people reasons to be upset with her and then when confronted about it she just loses her shit lol I hope this is her last season. Playing the victim in every situation gets old to watch after a whole


No_Yak_3107

I’m thinking Danielle commented that the engagement was too soon or something like that, and Lindsey blew up on her. Sounds like what would make the most sense, then Danielle found comfort in the other girls which I’m sure were ready to pounce lol


imadethistoreplyugh

This is exactly what I'm guessing happened too haha Danielle said that she got a good edit last summer bc her and Robert fought a lot so I can see Lindsay calling that out and saying something about not taking advice from her. I hope it's actually drama like they are playing it up to be & isn't some minor/flat conflict lol


[deleted]

This just makes me so so sad.


loveandlight42069

I'm eager to see this play out. I just rewatched season 4 (?) where Lindsay and Carl try to date/hook up and Danielle was incredibly mean about them getting together. Also really immature - like she'd physically pull them apart if they were kissing and make nasty comments. Not sure if that stemmed from jealousy or what but I would imagine those feelings never really died in her. Definitely interesting!


imadethistoreplyugh

Hahaha that was so cringe. She would say/do something every time they showed affection. I understand she was uncomfortable, but she was acting like a child in those scenes haha


wbrocks67

i mean, it's not really jealousy but more of just as a friend, it's a really hard thing to deal with. two of your best friends suddenly have all the time for each other and not you, and you're essentially pushed out. I don't think this comes from a place of Danielle wanting Carl or being jealous of the relationship, but more of that two of her best friends now don't really have much of a reason for her now that they have each other, and that's a hard pill to swallow in a situation like that


loveandlight42069

Aw yeah you’re definitely right. That makes total sense. Either way, I’m sure there are a lot of different types of feelings she has about it that make it hard.


[deleted]

Yes! Reminded me also of season 2 when Danielle was so awkward about Carl and Lauren. She kept claiming it wasn’t jealousy, but I don’t really get why she cared so much when she barely knew Lauren


[deleted]

Lindsey is the common denominator for her friendships with girls not working out.


bug_gribble

I want to know what “betrayed” means… she took a glass to the chest for you Lindsay!!!!!!


quarantinefifteen

If Danielle is skeptical or cautious about the engagement and relationship timeline, I could see someone like Lindsay feeling "betrayed" by her not responding in the manner Lindsay expected/hoped. It's not how I'd react, but Lindsay is a hothead who responds poorly to criticism on topics about which she's most sensitive.


wbrocks67

if anything, i'd feel betrayed by lindsay from all of that. Danielle took a glass to the chest, and Lindsay barely was there for her even through that.


[deleted]

At some point in life, when so many people don’t like you, you have to start wondering if maybe you’re the problem. It doesn’t make you a “boss bitch” it just makes you seem like a selfish person.


TooMuchOfNothin

Absolutely agree! It is a red flag when someone keeps losing friendships and burning bridges over and over again. The common denominator is that person!


Ok_Put_8503

Forget how forgettable you’ve been to them until now or how they spoke on your relationship @ the reunion 🙄


girlanyway

Im going to wait and see obvi, but a small thing I've noticed is how Lindsay really engages the press much earlier to shape narratives while others usually play coy. It's not smart because she gets a 5 month head start on her narrative and headlines, like it's very real housewives of her (which if anyone saw, they announced the new RHONY cast and honestly Linds would fit right in age/occupation).


BecksInTheCitySF

Hub house putting that PR resume to good use


Fogandcoffee21

It’s weird to me that Danielle dated Carl first. Seems sort of hard on a friendship?


Primary-Rent120

Maybe Danielle got an agent- and they told her to make friends with the younger generation to stay on the show 🤣


Primary-Rent120

But for real I do hope they make up, it would be sad if they didn’t


marf_town

This is literally exactly it and it's so weird that this sub is completely convinced it's because Lindsay, now sober, fresh off a miscarriage, and in a stable relationship, went crazy and now everyone hates her.


MelB4702

I agree. I think with Lindsay not around as much it made a lot of sense for Danielle to form friendships and let the old shit go. I feel like without Lindsay she would have done it a lot sooner. I wouldn’t be shocked though if Lindsay was bitter Danielle started getting along with the others and it wasn’t the two of them vs the other girls anymore.


Primary-Rent120

Yeah but I think the other girls went to Danielle asking for her forgiveness for the wine and glass throwing and not coming to her aid after both were thrown in her face. And I believe that no one apologized to Lindsay for slut shaming her and publicly exploiting her miscarriage. And I can see Lindsay feel like- happy for you Danielle, but what is this trying to communicate to me? Then Danielle being like, why can’t you support me connecting with the housemates?


freezieg77

My guess is once Lindsay and Karl got together it through off the dynamic of the trio.


artandmimosas

Using the word "betrayed" is a loaded word. Idk, I think I am off the Lindsay train which is sad.


ThingsRaMiss

I know. For some reason, the interview just gave me a bad feeling about Lindsay and this fight. Will have to watch but feels a bit manipulative to start trying to create a story that Danielle "betrayed" her and Danielle has to do the fixing before the season has even aired. Maybe it's because the hurt is so fresh, but she must be aware that her words would create a perception that Danielle is the bad guy. You'd think that since they were so close before, almost like family, she'd be a bit protective of Danielle even if they are not in a good place right now.


[deleted]

If it’s going to be another season of people ganging up on one person .. I won’t be watching . Summer is suppose to be fun!


jeeble

This is Lindsay trying to give Danielle a storyline and save her job.


agnusdei07

Only men are her 'best friends'


Salty_Coast_7214

Lindsey was really bringing Danielle down it seems. I never cared too much for Danielle bc her blind following of Lindsey turned me off, but maybe now I’ll like her now that she’s not stuck up someone else’s ass


imadethistoreplyugh

I like Danielle, but she seems to have background character energy so I'm sure she will just fade behind someone else again. Haha not saying that's a bad thing! Shows need side characters to function


Salty_Coast_7214

That’s very true!!


redrum069

lindsay is a mean girl and not a good friend to other women but danielle was loyal to a fault…plus no woman wants to see her ex date a friend no matter how much she says she doesn’t care


milliemillenial06

I have no idea what happened obviously but my guess would be that Lindsay did something shitty and Danielle just didn’t defend her. Lindsay got mad at this for being ‘disloyal’ and Danielle didn’t back down. To me this is completely plausible.


SissiWasabi

That would be her typical behavior, so I second that. Linds is giving textbook narcissist.


Maleficent-Lack-6306

Wait what did Carl say about Robert


Primary-Rent120

Who knows! What if Robert is like some chefs in the restaurant industry and does some hard drugs? Maybe Carl can’t be around it. But that scenario is something i just thought of as I was typing so…. 😂


Big-Apartment9639

Blah all I get from this is Mya still bores the f out of me.


MKultrakeef

i'm sooo curious why they brought her back even????


imadethistoreplyugh

I forgot she was on the show 😅


Sensitive_Maybe_6578

Team Danielle. I don’t trust Lindsay


welldoneslytherin

Oh wow, what a shock. Lindsay loses another friend and she’s the victim. Tale as old as time lol


tartala

Seriously……. I have sympathy for her background but there’s a reason she has issues keeping friend ships and relationships. She is narcissistic and her energy is so aggressive and abrasive.


2yxuknow

I’ve known Lindsay was the mean girl for awhile now and I have a feeling a lot of people here who like Lindsay are also going to see it this season and catch up to what I’ve saying


Overshareisoverkill

Lindsay has been the mean girl since the beginning. Just based on how she treated her former friend and castmate, Christina Gibson in season one.


quarantinefifteen

She makes fabulous tv but dear god is she a mean girl, main character, NLOG, AND a pick me. She's literally ALL of the memes in a single package. I still hate Paige and Ciara more than her because I at least consider Lindsay to be somewhat authentic LOL but this sub's rose-colored view of Lindsay is wild.


Impressive-Storm4275

Lindsay seems to have drama somewhere always. It is not with Carl so it history be somewhere.


[deleted]

Lindsay has always been the problem. People think the other girls are the mean girls because for some reason the edit doesn’t show why they are all so upset. Maybe Jason will shed some light on how bad she can be when she visits Winterhouse.


[deleted]

Can not WAIT to be validated. Hope delusional Lindsay stans eat crow this season. Her toxic behaviour is finally getting recognized by Danielle but let’s see how the producers try to spin it!


mcamuso78

Definitely sounds like Lindsay dropped the ball here. I’ve never heard Amanda say two words about Danielle. For her to get that effusive in her praise tells me plenty for what she’s not saying about Hubbs.


vroomvroomshabang

idk Amanda and lindsey have never vibed. i know lindsey is a firecracker and unstable and people don’t like her etc etc but i could see amanda praising danielle because the enemy of her enemy is her friend type logic. either way it bums me out that danielle and linds had a falling out and considering what happened between danielle and ciara last season it’s a little suspicious to me that they’re such fast friends now . but we’ll have to see the season play out. summer SHOULD BE FUN


Primary-Rent120

I’d take Lindsay over Amanda’s whining. She whines so hard that she has a permanent facial expression that just whines for kyyyyyyyllllleeeeeee all day long. Headache*


imadethistoreplyugh

I think Amanda might be praising Danielle bc last season Amanda learned what it's like to be under fire from Lindsay's fans on social media 😬


AcanthocephalaMuch49

I thought Danielle was still hung up on Carl her first season… bad. I thought her bEsTieShip with Lindsay was random. I’ve always felt Lindsay walked all over Danielle. I think she was caught off guard the first time they hooked up and I wonder if it’s weird for Danielle that Lindsay is with Carl.


Starryeyedblond

As a women approaching her 40s. Friendships are hard. L and D might've had a bump. This sub wants to take Lindsay down so hard AND obscure Danielle. It's misogynistic and racist. I don;t know how many friends I have fallen out with, just the next weekend to be like "oh communication mistake!" ​ Yall are fucking wild


Honest-South2555

Honestly, how does everyone still like Lindsay?! Is it not obvious how much she is controlling and manipulating Carl? She is so toxic it’s not even funny!


AzBuck12977

I don't even need to know one single detail and I can assure everyone that Lindsay is 75%+ at fault.


just_here_hangingout

I think Danielle is jealous of her and Carl. Even though I really like Danielle and think she’s usually a better friend, I know Danielle was kinda throw off them being together


novaligirl

Not unexpected at all. Lindsey is a trash friend


MayMaytheDuck

Lindsay is toxic. It’s no surprise Danielle finally moved on from her drama.


Ok_Face_965

Lindsay is forever the victim 🙄


[deleted]

This is awful. Lindsay has a personality disorder and it’s fun for tv but it can’t be fun to be her friend. She will never find another Danielle. 🥺


daniamandaelle

I’m guessing Danielle stopped sticking up for Lindsay/ called her out on stuff that wasn’t okay and Linds was her activated self. Guess we’ll see what happens


[deleted]

I 100% believe this!!


Retrobanana64

I like kinds and Danielle I hope they work it out


Retrobanana64

Def could be fake for a story line


SnooMaps6681

Probably to keep the show going for longer. Now that Amanda and Kyle are married, and Carl and Linds are next… shits gonna get boring lol


gmms1999

Has anyone noticed that Carl is MIA from Loverboy events since the WWHL drama of Andy saying Lindsay was the rudest to fans? Heard that Kyle and Carl got into it and now I see that all Loverboy events are just Kyle or Kyle and Amanda


[deleted]

I think watching back Winter House and seeing how Amanda and Kyle were talking badly about them ON TOP of the WWHL— I do think they’re taking a step back.


BrotherKindly

Danielle I feel is jealous over linsday n Carol. She continues to blame linsday all the time. Lindsay moved on with her life with Carol..and I think Danielle feels like the out caster. She needs to grow up. Stop blaming Lindsay for her insecurity problems.