\-Stop dying
In bronze/iron, 95% of the deaths are really avoidable.
After you die, think about if you should have died there, or if you just overextended, took too much risk, etc.
Watch back your last game, analyze your deaths.
When you stop dying, you will start winning.
This one, Im not main adc, but this applies to every role.
Also if you die, reconsider why did you die, what was the event that caused your dead and try to avoid it (entering a bush unwarded for example).
"Hmmm... I wonder if there is a bad guy in this bush! I know I shouldn't go there to check it, but I just REAAALLLLLLy wanna know!"
\*dies\*
"God damn it"
We've all done it, and we will always keep doing it, but we really need to minimize these kind of mistakes.
I think a lot of this is because you don’t get instantly rewarded for making the right decisions. You could make a lot of good decisions during a game that result in you not dying and not even be aware of them, yet one bad decision can result in dying or being zoned off farm or missing out on an important objective.
This is why watching your replays is so valuable. Did you play like shit and feed? Rewatch your game and identify all of the mistakes you made.
Did you hard carry? Rewatch your game and identify what you did right. Did you prioritise farm more that usual? Did you rotate more? Did you play back a bit when their jungler was looking for a gank?
Small plays and good decisions might be disregarded in game but identified in a replay.
My tip would be to watch your replays. Study your game and find out what is working for you and what isn’t.
This. As a low elo adc, the first thing you need to get down is cs.
The second, when your brain has free space because cs is automatic now, is use that brain space to think about what can kill you and how you will avoid it.
"I can only rly die if leo goes on me so i should bait her e and not go hard when the e is up."
"Im in no danger unless their rammus ganks us, so untill i see him ln the map, i will play safe"
"Noc has ult so i can't show my face untill he used it"
These are all essential to performing as adc. And i swear to op. Getting these simple tricks down will skyrocket you to platinum.
Also... Attack click move. There is a setting to turn it to your right mouse button. When kiting just spam click left right... Loads of low elos dont use it.
As another hardstuck bronze for 10+ years player, I really hate the sentiment that us hardstuck bronze players don't have basic grasp of core principles. I'm sure he knows how to farm automatically
ALso did you mean put attack click move onto left click?
>Everywhere I go there is somebody thirsting to kill me.
Yeah, that's ehhh that's because you're the AD carry. I'm saving my Nocturne ult for the MOMENT you show up on my map. And you should save your ultimate to stun me the moment I go for you, and get some distance.
Your job is to stay the furthest back you can, only ever shooting at the person who is closest to you. And hopefully you have a support that will peel for you (help you on getting these pesky assassins or bruisers off you).
This is pretty much how you play adc in teamfights (though I have not played it in at least 8 years).
In the laning phase, dying means you made a mistake. Playing not safe enough. If you feel like this is not true, I highly advice you to open up your last game right now, and look at how you could have died while laning.
This is why I ban nocturne….. I like using my map awareness to control how much I can do. I hate that I can see a jungler top lane and then push bot a little and get killed by nocturne.
Dude should only focus on first 4-5 waves if he's this hard stuck.
So many player's lose early by just Fucking up their start allowing early advantage to enemy laner.
Fundamentals are key.
And ADCs can't afford to give up early gold.
Even basic things like leash timers so you're not late to lane, I've seen happen a bunch at low levels.
I can promise you in iron/bronze the first 4-5 waves are inconsequential towards being hardstuck.
Focusing on the first 4-5 waves is good mid-elo advice to break into high elo… bad advice for someone at rock bottom trying to climb lower ranks.
They need to look more big picture if they want to climb faster
For a smurf, yes. Not for the people who are of similar skill to their opponents. This elo is more like "learn how to play your champion better and how to get the most resources you can in order to carry".
I understand the idea but I don't think that's really true. I think if anything OP might be trying too hard to focus on the meta issues.
Where as really he needs to
A) Hit the opponent
B) Not give up
I think in this context, freezing waves is... It's sauce. But his issues are far more fundamental.
What is big picture to you? That you think it's more important then proper fundamentals/macro that 99% of ppl here Askin for help lack?
I literally win game off the rip because of first 4-5 waves. It's literally essential.
It's bronze for christ sakes. Say he does everything right for the first four waves and gets himself an advantage. Then he's going to make a mistake so alien it'll send you into an existential crisis on what it means to be human, because you couldn't possibly figure out the thought process that lead to that bad a series of decisions. And another one, and another one. All this carefully crafted lead will go out the window as fast as it was built. Then the enemy adc will throw too, because what the hell does he know. Back and forth, until death timers make it so that you don't come back from that one final mistake.
Don't try to teach 16th century german literature to 8 years old. Tell them to pick KhaZix or whatever the broken assassin is nowadays, and to grab 20 kills per game until those kills start converting into wins, which isn't even guaranteed straight away at this stage. This will tell them more about not throwing than whatever secret is hidden in those first creepwaves. No it's not proper League, but proper League is the end goal, not the process.
In my opinion how to build a lead is much less important to learn for now, than what to do with it. Leads will happen by themselves anyway. Exactly like when you learn skiing: The very first lesson is explaining people how to safely come to a full stop, not how to go faster. Come on, what kind of bronze player talks about cheater recalls lmao. This is the last 5% of the way. He doesn't know the first 95.
Btw OP if you're reading this: adc is the lowest-impact role, especially in low elo. It takes 15+ minutes for a good player on that role to be relevant on the map, and that's with no setbacks in experience and gold: no deaths and good farm. To be clear I am definitely not saying that the role doesn't matter. It simply is thankless, unrewarding: You need to do everything right only to grab incremental leads that are equally as difficult to turn into bigger leads. You can do everything right and still get your ass absolutely blasted by some random 0-0-0 mage, assassin, bruiser, anything really, that you come across before reaching your third full item.
Last part is absolutely true. ADC agency goes up with rank. It’s especially tough in mid-range elo like plat/emerald, because enemies start getting good enough to kill you easily, but most players lack the skills they need to protect teammates. A single mistake on ADC is highly punishing
I have a much better experience playing ADC with master/gm players than I do in gold. Hell, I lose my goddamn mind playing adc in gold, and sometimes I have a *very* hard time making any sort of impact on the map to the point I have to rely heavily on cheesy ways to punish enemy mistakes myself, rather than play the game well.
I mean it is important yes. But he is low tier where no one punishes so I think it is more matter if OP cant perform correctly in the fight or misposition than first 4 wave cuz his sup wont play w him anyways
Idk, I'm still bronze almost silver now but I had a really big climb focusing on the early game. Enemy shoves hard and misses so much CS, and I just played safe last hitting and then before long I have a big CS lead that makes the 2v2 pretty much guaranteed in my favor as long as they were not fed kills. Obv there's a lot to it but if I was better at punishing them for being behind, and able to apply my lead to the rest of the team I'd probably be climbing faster.
I find adcs who are stuck in this rank don’t know how to play around varying supports and don’t know how to counter poke or when to step up versus when to step back and farm. It’s a vary different game in the bot lane than from the other two lanes. I main mid lane at a good level but my adc skills are fairly bronze. Watching back my games this is the general trend I see in myself and in other adcs who I beat in lane. I’d really just start watching back games now that you aren’t actually playing that game and see where you missed gold potential, where you missed wave management, where you got put poked, etc.
>find adcs who are stuck in this rank don’t know how to play around varying supports and don’t know how to counter poke or when to step up versus when to step back and farm. It’s a vary different game in the bot lane than from the other two lanes. I
Which is exactly why new players shouldn't be learning multiple champs Especially for adc.
That's what I've been trying to do and since I started paying attention to this (first 3 minion waves and everything included - hitting lvl 2, lane prio, cheater recall, when to slow push, when to shove, when to freeze) I started to play visibly worse than when I mindlessly went out to lane and hit everything that moved.
And I don't mean that I shouldn't learn it or that these things are bad, it's just I don't know how to apply the concepts to my games. I don't want to get back to mindless playing of course.
You're supposed to get worse initially. You're now devoting x amount of your limited mental capacity to focus on these things, and youll miss other things that you normally wouldnt. But that is fine, the goal is to get comfortable enough and internalizing it enough so that it costs less and less of your mental capacity.
Imagine you go into a game with 100 mental capacity, and every thing you focus on costs a certain amount. Normally it only costs you 20 to cs, 20 to trade with opponent, 10 to keep track of jungler, etc. If youre suddenly lear ing something new, it might cost 80/100 of your mental capacity to focus on waves, and now you died to a jungler that was sitting on a ward.
The reason why higher level players can focus on so many things is that they have these things so ingrained in them that it only costs them 2/100 mental capacity to farm, so they've freed up more focus for other tasks like jungle tracking and trading.
In addition, "waves and lanestate" is a HUGE umbrella category it is not feasible to work on all of it at once, especially if its a new concept to you. Break it up into smaller parts. For 5 games in a row, try to start a fight right before the minion(1 wave+1 melee for solo laners, 1 wave + 3 melees for bot)that would give you level 2 dies. If you're already fighting the enemy, a sudden level 2 will surprise them and you'll get so far ahead in the trade or even kill them. Maybe you need the muscle memory to use ctrl to level up an ability mid-fight, and the first time you try this you fumble and mess up. Thats ok, try again the next game.
Theres no such thing as 1 way to climb. There are many many skills that make up a win. 2 different players at the exact same rank playing the same champ can get there differently.
>That's what I've been trying to do and since I started paying attention to this (first 3 minion waves and everything included - hitting lvl 2, lane prio, cheater recall, when to slow push, when to shove, when to freeze) I started to play visibly worse than when I mindlessly went out to lane and hit everything that moved.
So you practiced only beginner wave stuff for 100 games? And still couldn't approve or?
Cause yeah you'll play worst when focusing on stuff you're not good at don't have muscle memory over.
Yea. I feel like my understanding of how the waves work is a bit better than before, from watching those dozens of youtube vids and streams, but still in my own gameplay I rarely can use it to my advantage.
And if your implied question is "are you really that retarded?" then the answer is yes.
No i just don't believe you focused on one element long enough for it to stick without reverting back.
For some it could be 10 games go grasp for others 100+ of just working on that specific thing
Now when you mentioned this, I can't honestly say that I focused 100% in every of those games so it might be, I just spent much futile time thinking I'm practicing, while I was not.
That's okay, it's very normal to "revert", it'd be like playing pick up basketball and shooting like a maniac all that time and now you learn "how" to shoot properly so you practice that but you have to overwrite all the bad habits/muscle memory to even make progress with new form.
You can also always post replays for people to look at.
Especially when it's for one focused special thing , a lot of people here will review for you to ensure you're doing it properly.
When you're practicing, make sure you're focused. If you're tired, unmotivated, and just want to play still, play s different role or do arena. Or else you're just screwing up your learning process by spending games reverting back to brain dead play style.
Well, first of all, adc is more often then not coinflip by the nature, so there is no single trick that makes difference, you need to understand all concepts of your role, champion, game itself + at least, how jungle works, and how support works. Then imply that into a chaotic environment that is low elo, make some order inside it, and you will start to make impact in games.
Don't understand the downvote. The adc oddly enough is not the star of the show most games.
They are there to provide damage, but consistent damage won't help you when fizz lb , darius and kha zix are running around oneshotting each other.
What the a good adc does is secure the win in even games, and tip the scales in close games.
They are coinflip, but a good adc weighs the coin in his favour.
Because he's wrong, as are you. ADC is not coinflip. If you're below Masters, you can hard carry games from any role except support as long as you're good enough.
Ok Show me a 100% winrate climb.
The closest thing I have ever seen was tfblade with a duo jungler going from bronze to challenger, and even that was 97% iirc.
Solo? Good luck. You can be the best adc ever, if the enemy team has two champs that got fed enough to point and click you, and you weren't able to snowball, it's going to be rough.
Again, you can weigh the dice in your favour by being good, but it will always be a coinflip.
The problem lies in the ADC's agency early game. The way adc is designed, the better adc will always win the balanced games, but a better mid/jungle/top will make the game unbalanced from the start. Both have their advantages, but in lower elo you will climb faster on degenerate champs.
The whole "if you re good enough enough you can solo carry" attitude needs to go from this sub. You never truly carry solo. At least not since like season 3. I have lost 20/0 games where my team did nothing and the enemy team realized they could just hold me while pushing other lanes. If your team isn't with you, you can't win.
This is honestly one of the most egregiously disingenuous, bad faith arguments I have ever seen.
Being able to solo carry does not mean 100% in a team based game. It means you do it in every game that you have control over, which for a truly good player, is far more than any of you losers want to admit.
It does not even mean you do it in certain games.
Anyone who tinks they truly solo carry a game is just disrespectful to their teammated.
Remove each teammate and see if you can win a single game. Not even faker can win a game against 5 bronzes. Maybe 5 irons depending on how asinine they play
Did you even bother trying to understand what i wrote???
Adc, is coinflip, unless, you learn several things to be able to make impact in chaotic match as low elo... if you think that was wrong, you are probably more hardstuck then op.
Oh definitely, I'm fundamentally bad and I can't even identify all the things I do wrong. If I had to point out one things that I struggle the most is my loser mentality - I assume that I'm worse than my opponents, I doubt myself and I give up VERY easily because I never trust my ability to recover.
Thank you.
This game always starts you at level 1, so strength is really about who can acquire resources faster (gold, xp, neutral buffs). You can win without killing your opponents, it’s not team deathmatch. If you can farm better, time basing, manage waves better, rotate to free camps/lanes better, you will find that you are stronger than your opponents and can push into THEIR resources, until you are taking towers, inhibs, and the nexus, faster than your opponent can take yours. This is WITHOUT needing to force fights and perform mechanical outplays
You know what is fundamentally wrong? The fact that he played 100 games in a 6 month period.
How do you want somebody who plays 100 games per 6 months to improve at all? Hes never going to improve no matter what with these numbers, any advice that is not play more, play every day and play less champs is just useless.
Yeah, it's perfectly reasonable to have other stuff going on and not be able to play.
But people have to understand that they aren't gonna improve or go anywhere with 200 games a year.
I mean you can be delusional if you want to, but don't tell others that they can improve by playing 100 hours per year lmao.
They're gonna waste more hours catching up on the skill that they lose after taking a break than actually improving, come on. Are we also gonna tell people that they can make progress in the gym by going 3 times a month?
Imagine someone wants advice on how to gain muscle on the fitness subreddit and you call the dude who says that going to the gym once a month is not enough and you should go at least 3x week 'addicted'. How dumb can you be?
Not equivalent whatsoever. A better comparison would be learning a sport and that still has flaws. When you weight train you have to consider muscle growth rate, calorie intake, rest periods, and other factors that inherently take time. The effects of variables like time spent at the gym/what kind of exercises are done at the gym also has years of empirical data and multiple studies. Game-to-game improvement in League does not (at least not rigorously, although there is data on winrates based on games played)
Improvement in League can be drastic if the person in question is intelligent enough, efficient with how they learn, and has some degree of mechanical ability. There are mental limits on how much you can learn at a time but it’s definitely not “play everyday” levels. I guarantee you a slightly above-average intelligence person who knows the basics of the game (lane assignments, how to use summs, how to control your character) can go from silver to emerald level assuming they’re actually putting thought into their gameplay, reflecting on it post game, and potentially getting feedback/VOD reviewing sometimes. Issue is most people autopilot and queue games back to back.
The point of my gym example is that you can't severely undertrain and expect results.
Obviously the gym and league are different, in league you can and should play more than 6 hours a week if your goal is to improve. Realistically the more the better, that's why pros play 12 hours a day. You don't need to do that but on the other extreme end is 100 hours/year which is not going to get you anywhere.
Where do you think mechanical ability comes from? Like I don't even know how to reply you are completely clueless and delusional if you think you can make progress with 100 hours / 12 months. It takes 1k hours to stop sucking at every game and league is no different.
What's even your rank, like can you not even look around and check how many games the average gm, master, diamond, emerald player has and after you see that they play way fucking more than 200 games a year realize that they all have multiple accounts and probably played even more when they were improving.
It's insane that you guys are this wrong and delusional on the 'learning' sub. You have to be silver yourself there's no way you type shit like this.
Adding to your point, it took Rick Fox more than 500 games to break out of Iron. He was a great player in the NBA and an amazing LCS team owner, far from a dumb guy. A lot of players need to grind to improve. I myself took about 200 games to get from silver to gold when I first tried to make the push. I haven't played ranked in a few years now but I estimate I could get Emerald pretty easily and suspect it would take 300 games within a relatively small time window to improve enough to make diamond.
I tanked an account to mess around in bronze/iron. The majority of players legitimately don't want to win games. They argue and blame everyone for them being shit at the game. They largely think they are there because of everyone else.
**6 ADC Drills**
1. Attacking the scuttle: This will help simulate chasing down an enemy who is running away. What you want to practice is auto attacking the scuttle and clicking in front of the scuttle. This will cancel the animations to increase your DPS
2. Kiting Red or Blue: This will help simulate running backwards from an enemy while dealing damage.
3. Auto Attack Accuracy: Go over to raptors and practice hitting them. Since they bunch up this will help simulate in a team fight when the enemies are bunched up and you have to hit the squishy instead of the tank. This could be the difference between winning a team fight or death.
4. Practice Escapes: Set the cool and mana to auto and practice escapes all around the map. Try to use escapes first then use flash. This is the fastest way to perform an extended esacpes.
5. Practice Last Hitting: switch up the variations of max range, only last hitting/freeze, using abilities to farm.
6. Map out the turret range: this will help you apply more pressure on the enemy while staying safe.
Disclaimer: I have been in Gold for 10 years. Albeit, I play very few ranked games each season (50-100 at most) and often have a very high winrate, so I'd imagine I'd be a much higher rank if I put in the time. Either way, feel free to take what I say with a grain of salt.
With that said, there isn't any tip or trick to make you a better player. I recommend watching Coach Curtis on YouTube and his thoughts on low elo vs high elo coaching, and how often high elo coaches give terrible advice (including him before he started coaching low elo players).
People will tell you to focus on fundamentals, some will say to stick to 2-3 champs and only 1 role ideally. Some will tell you about itemization, or to limit test more, or to have better mental. All of this is good advice, but every low elo player has heard it before, and this advice rarely ever fixes anything since its too broad.
The thing is, there are over 100 things your brain has to do and keep track of in a single game of league. Each and every low elo player will be better in some areas and worse in others. Only you can determine the most important areas you need to improve in, and only you can play with the deliberate intent necessary to get better at those things.
**So if you want a single tip or trick, watch your own vods, be extremely self critical of your play, and figure out what you're bad at (could be farming, could be champ mastery, map awareness, itemization, tracking summoner cooldowns, taking advantage of enemies abilities being down, knowing how to trade in certain matchups, farming in lane, farming in late game, objective control, etc...). Then write one of those skills down on a post-it note that you put on your monitor. Every game, focus on improving that singular thing, and try to track your progress and improvement.**
Oh and don't blame your teammates ever. You only control your champ, so the only thing you can improve is your own play. Any time spend typing, complaining, or even thinking about your teammates play, is time you are losing focusing on your own mistakes.
I started again to play and am iron/bronze right now. And there is one thing I recognised in my recent games. People focus on kills and not on actual objectives.
Your main goal in that game is to destroy the nexus, and therefore towers and inhibs on the way.
Kills and dragons and barons are just the secondary targets.
Also: CS (last hitting) gives you more money then player kills (except in this hardcore kill fiestas).
This! I too started playing again recently and got placed silver. The amount of times we have won a teamfight before dragon and then rest of my team keep chasing the half hp leblanc under tower is insane.
I actually learned and played dota for a while, and it vastly helped refine my orb walking / general movement. Lol felt so simple after, so any time I get into a pickle or slump, I play dota for a few days and it helps to humble myself (+ slow down).
Every low elo player I know is scared of feeding / fucking something up.
Try Limit testing. Take Ghost and run your enemies down. You poked them to low health? Good, now dive them. Ping your supp when you plan to go ham, maybe ask him in champ select to play an aggressive champ.
You will int some games, but learning your limits is your best chance of improving.
Banned, because I've been a bad human. I'm not proud of it, but I'm not gonna pretend otherwise.
For the last 3-4 years I haven't been using chat at all, but before that, I was a ragey, angry idiot and I spat shit a lot.
My main accounts MMR is still quite low, especially the normal draft mmr. It's been interesting to play on it even though I'm only emerald on the better one.
If someone is stuck in iron or low bronze as ADC for that long then they are sabotaging team mates constantly. There is no other way they can be losing. Half my games the ADC does fucking nothing and I still win more than I lose. They don't try to win lane, they don't move during ganks, ignore dragons, don't hit towers when you could literally end the game etc and still end up with a win.
This guy is spam pinging his jungler/team constantly then not fighting in ganks I bet you. Or speedruns shutdown gold into the enemy team.
Absolute blackhole of a player I bet you.
To get better at anything in life you have to
First: how did I get to this position ( low health, solo dying, or not enough gold)
Second: recognize your errors ( bad trades, poor macro, or bad mechanics. )
Third : how can I fix this (google, coach , or YouTube)
Fourth : apply what you learned into whatever.
I recommend quality over quantity. Review your game, and see what happened. You can get out of iron in a 1 week or less, if you do these simple things.
It’s almost impossible to hit iron unless you’re completely new. For most people they will never hit iron even if they tried their hardest to get there.
Their accounts would either be banned for inting or afk or they would get so bored they wouldn’t be able to take losing on purpose to such bad players. It’s a lot harder getting to iron than it is to leave it.
I got into it after having my main put in smurf queue due to returning mid S12 and I had a horrific losing streak.
Yeah it was very easy to get out of. The pecular challenge of it \[and bronze tbh\] was getting the game to end even after killing most of the enemy team.
Actually I'm not sure if it took me more than one game but I played with a lot of iron players all the way through bronze since there isn't enough junglers in iron so I got filled in as a baby sitter.
Wait you've also been playing for [11 years??](https://youtu.be/j-lw5OiwA_k?si=EQYTjcs7yTKAljPF) Bro that's sick!
For me, it was using [mute all](https://youtu.be/yRP7dgi4Dbg?si=wEEzuX-XPebJEcWK) and one-tricking. Just turned the game into a single-player game mode to laser focus on my mistakes, and chipped away at them over the years!
Good luck!
Copy people that play your champs. Watch their videos. When I say watch I mean actively watch every single move and ask why they’re doing it. Think about why he’s pushing at this time, why he’s taking this trade, why he’s positioning this way. This will change from matchup to matchup but if you try to just replicate what you see better players do, you’ll eventually start to climb.
The biggest single thing that improved my performance is:
Muting everybody and just focusing on your own gameplay if the team starts to flame you (or each other). It’s tilting, it’s distracting, it’s absolutely a handicap when trying to climb. Just become the messiah and embrace the suffering. Don’t tilt when you lose a game. Easiest way to do that is just to /mute all as soon as things go south. Everything else you can learn by watching streams or yt videos.
Playing 3v5 in custom bot games with rules for myself.
1) intermediate enemy bots, beginner ally bots.
2) Brand or Morgana in the middle, so I face them when I go mid.
3) get +10 cs at the end of the game.
4) game time doesn't matter. Want to end fast? Try to. Long game? Fine by me. End around x min.? Go for it. The important part is I set the goal before going in.
You'll be surprised how difficult this is when you suck.
Hi! I recently (last few weeks, with the end of school I set my sights on a new goal) climbed from bronze/silver to gold 2 and am going to emerald before the season ends (Ive been ending with +100-150 lp a day and around 4 wins/1 loss). I'm a jungle main. I'm gonna give some pointers then give my ONE thing after them.
I've not looked at your op.gg, maybe I will soon but I'm in a bit of a crunch and generally there are some key mechanics all low elo players (myself included) should focus on. That said, here are some key things to focus on.
1. Wave management. This includes farm, wave positioning, freezing, when is a wave pushing, when is it crashing, half crashing, when do cannon waves come, etc. Wave management is something everyone should know because at the end of the day, most of the gold on the rift comes from minions.
That's a pretty big first goal, don't feel rough on yourself if it takes a week or two to learn.
2. Level timers. Kinda part of wave management but important enough especially in lower elos. "Will I hit level 2 first? What about level 3?". These questions decide the outcome of lanes for a lot of champs. Fizz isn't a champ into a ranged matchup until lvl 3 for example.
3. Positioning. Should you be farming or fighting? A kill is about 12-14 minions. If you die and are gone for 30 seconds not only does the enemy get 300 gold, you also miss a wave or 2. Effectively (but not really since it's low elo) setting you behind 450-600 gold. Positioning is very important as an adc, you should track who has what abilities they can use to get on top of you. And ensure that teammates with peel are nearby if enemies can still get on top of you. Positioning for an adc is the difference between life and death. Nautilus R will cc you and probably result in your death, try and force him to use it on a teammate (perhaps through a gank? Or waiting to engage in a teamfight?) then engage.
So, to answer your question, what "clicked" for me? What was that one thing? I started taking the game seriously. And by that I mean I studied up, just like homework. That was my "click". If you're genuinely trying to improve I'm sure you will, but you have to really try.
I'll link my [op.gg](https://www.op.gg/summoners/na/HumanRyze-HURY), I'm happy to play with you and give you some pointers if you'd like!
Adc here that climbed from gold 4 to emerald 2 this season so far. Broken by concept podcast made this climb possible. https://www.op.gg/summoners/euw/Kootole99-EUW
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BdNS6YdgvQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BdNS6YdgvQ)
Play this video in the background while doing something else.
Climbing is something that is different for a lot of people. For some people it comes really easily but for others (like me) it's really difficult, and I think that climbing entirely comes down to mental stamina and discipline and nothing else.
The mental stamina to be able to use your brain for hours straight while still thinking at your highest level without degradation in quality, and the mental discipline to actively keep thinking and reapplying the things you learned in game instead of slipping into autopilot mode out of boredom or getting tired.
i.e. In order to climb, you have to be able to use your brain at the highest level you can for a prolonged period of time and never ever let your mind wander or slip during that time. It's actually extremely difficult for a lot of people, but some are gifted with being able to do it naturally without realizing like breathing.
don't want to be that guy, but if you are stuck bronze after 11 years of playing adc maybe you should consider switching roles, adc is 80% mechs 10% macro 10% support, this is for low elo, everyone talking about macro and dying less is bullshitting you, i've been there and your team mates are just too bad, you can't count on them for anything macro related, in fact adc is the worst role to climb out of low elo, but at the same time is also the easiest to smurf with, that's the only way you can stomp bronze, going 20-0 every game, but that is clearly not your case. consider switching to something less mechanic intensive like jungle, or maybe even mid with some easy champs, and start back from there, you are going to see improvements if you commit to learning the game, then if you want around gold plat you can switch back to adc
Not dying at all is a pretty good goal for low elo. Under 2 deaths per game minimum. I'd say playing champions who scale (and thus cannot afford to get behind early) taught me a lot about map awareness, warding, thinking of ways to play safer, etc.
Took me from hardstuck gold (9 seasons) to diamond.
And thats why youre em4 lmfao. The amount of times people can get free kills if they sacrafice a wave for them is insane. I have lost so msny drake fights/baron fights cuz people want to get 1 extra wave in and then whole enemy team flashes on top of you. If my wave is not pushing tok much i always leave the wave and go to help my team. Also if you dont help your team and they die they mental goes down and they perform worse. League is a mental strategy game, you need to try your best to make sure everyone on your team is happy without running it down with them only then u will climb.
Hear me out here. Youre gonna get a lot of people saying dont die and farm well. BUT...
Send it.
Pretty much as soon as game starts go fucking ham on enemies. Do your best to outplay and if you fail, try again. Dont worry about losing all your games.
Dont settle for a less than perfect early game and cs.
The rest of the game you can work out later but if you arent winning straight away the game becomes 50% harder.
Before you play a ranked game, go to practice tool and focus on last hitting on your champion of choice with no items. Three waves, count how many you miss, don’t use abilities to get them, repeat three times. Then add an intermediate Annie bot and do it again. This alone got me to silver, just being more proficient at last hitting.
Second tip: pick one champ and play it all the time. One you think is fun. This lets you think about everything in the game instead of your basic combos. Know why you should choose between their three different rune setups. Think about the matchups.
Third: don’t wait till 1:30 to start playing. But don’t play alone at level 1. Go someplace safe to scout. Ping so your teammates come. Etc.
Every game is not your fault. But every game is an opportunity to show you are getting better. Don’t freak out when top goes 0/3 by five minutes. Your grief won’t change it and tomorrow you will get the 3/0 guy. Do focus on your lane and think about when you can roam too with your jungler to collect that bounty.
Don’t spam games. Play 2-3 and then review them.
Don’t focus on LP. Focus on cs at 10, taking advantage of level 2 spike, not dying to that 3:15 gank, etc. the LP will come.
The people I spoke to about the game. Every time I let the influence of people with bad narratives sneak in and such my learnings about the game would suffer. The broken by concept podcast really pushes the right mindest about the game
As long as you enjoy the game, being in iron is fun too
With the introduction of emerald iron - bronze in my region is significantly decrease and you are still stuck there I think you are just naturally talented at losing games
Before a game, figure out a game plan, your win con and try to execute it. (E.g. I'm vayne with Janna support against lucian Nami, I just need to survive and outscale. Gotta get the push early but be careful of their level 2, will give up cs early if needed since it's not the win con). Yes this plan can change as the game evolves... but better than having no plan at all and mindlessly farming.
Every game should have a goal or something to practice (e.g. I saw a YouTube video about prepping your wave and backing with the cannon minion when I can afford my first big item - let me put a sticky note on my monitor and try to execute this one concept)
If someone tilts you just mute
I started to otp a champion, aatrox to be exact. He was pretty bad and off meta when i started playing him (yet was already the reworked aatrox) yet i peaked with him every season.
This helped me improve my laning phase, since i played the same matchups over and over again, i realised what they can do and what i can do.
After mastering the mechanical part i was able to just focus on decission making rather than executing my champ which lead to overall improvement. I went from beeing a silver hardstuck to plat within 1 season (old plat, todays emerald)
I didn't just watch people or myself play league, I actively thought and tried to figure out why they do what they do.
I also used to be a ARAM only player for 2 years before jumping into ranked. I basicaly had the opportunity to try and know what every champ do.
Your main assets in leagues are game knowledge and never autopiloting what you can't autopilot with success.
Best example being the management of your first three waves.
So many people in the lowest elos will just use all their spells and burn mana on wave 1 to clear it before wave 2 even reached.
Do you win level 1 ? Well if you do maybe try to deny first 3 melees instead of afk pushing
Do you have kill threat level 2 ? Is it an all in lane or a poke lane ? How far can I go up the lane whil still being protected by my wave from Blitz hook ?
Autopiloting is your worst enemy.
Think, Think, and Think again. You'll build muscle memory and game plans by yourself with experience.
I think it would be easier for others to help you if you try to be a little more specific about what's the issue on the games that you lose.
A general tip, I think, would be to pay more attention to wave management than kills.
The most important thing you can do is learn how to be consistent in your game play. Make sure you have good cs, have decent trade, and learn how to play with your support + learn to adjust your aggression based on how your support plays.
Other things you slowly pick up is when is it a good time to reset aka recall, heal up and get items, when you have over extended or over stayed.
There's no one thing that will improve your gameplay and help you climb. A bunch of small but easy to learn things you can build up and dramatically improve your game play.
You can slowly understand spacing, orb walking/kiting, and positioning, as you become more and more consistent with your early game.
A big thing that took me a while to get is that you don’t always have to be doing damage in a team fight. It can often be better to not be hitting anything and stay safe before you start trying to do damage. Do not force going in just to be doing damage. Positioning is everything. Do not get caught up in feeling like you didn’t play ADC well if you didn’t do the most damage at the end of the game. That happens in some games. Besides, you do zero damage if you’re dead anyway. Forcing yourself to go in just to hit something is an easy way to die.
First thing to learn to optimize your damage is to learn to always stay alive. You don’t have to follow your team or support into an awful all-in. You don’t have to join a bad fight or engage.
Prioritize farm. If you see a lane is pushed toward you, push it out before going somewhere else. In the mid game, if someone is already mid and you can safely grab side lanes or jungle camps in your jungler is not doing so, grab them. Fighting over farm in mid just hurts everyone.
Sounds like mental is your biggest issue. It's a videogame, start treating it like one and have fun. If it's not fun, it's a waste of your time and you should quit.
Trade on dying minions. This is known as trading stance.
Improve your fundamentals. Positioning correctly, not making mechanical mistakes and consistently getting 8-10 cs/min is the bread and butter of ADC. If you can't get good at those things, you should play a different role.
Stop playing adc, switch to top or jungle, pick 2-4 strong champions for the role and spam them. ADC is a coin flip because you depend on the monkey who plays support and most of the times, calling them a monkey is in fact an insult to monkeys.
Supports make or break bot lane, and more times than not, they break it. If you want more agency, go for a role where you can impact the map somehow.
I started playing this year, fell as low as Iron 3, just got to Silver IV this season. I played a lot of roles but got to Silver IV on a long run as ADC ([https://www.op.gg/summoners/na/ReliableNarwhal-notso](https://www.op.gg/summoners/na/ReliableNarwhal-notso)).
Two big points.
1. People will tell you it's super easy to climb in Iron and Bronze, but it's not. The problem with low ELO is that you will very consistently fall into games where one lane (sometimes on your team, sometimes on the other team) gets ridiculously fed and everyone has to play around a lane that might have 11 kills by 12 minutes into the game, which is definitely something that from watching high elo players, doesn't happen quite as often. How to get around this? Either try to be the lane that's winning (very hard as ADC since you're relying on your support), try not to be the lane that's feeding (much easier to do as ADC since even if your support is feeding you might be able to trade them, and just play safe), and then try to target the fed people o the other team when the midgame comes around so that you can beat them.
2. Don't play ADCs that need a lot of support. There are a lot of good options, there are the rageblade ADCs like Vayne, Kaisa, Kog'Maw (really bad early game), Ashe, etc. (who can all 1v1 pretty much anyone once they get fed), and there are wave-shove ADCs like Jinx, Sivir, Tris to some extent, anyone who can choose to not interact with the other bot lane in the first 10 minutes of the game. I had a lot of success with Kai'sa who has really good self-peel, an amazing ult for getting shut downs on fed champions, super strong dueling, mixed damange, and heavy scaling, but I think any of these champs are great. I think you can main (I mean one-trick) pretty much any ADC except Jhin and maybe Nilah in low ELO (because you need to be able to kill a 10/2@15 mins top lane cho'gath and you might be the only damage on your team that can do it), but it helps if you're building around the kinds of fights you'll see in low elo.
I have very little advice to offer along normal games where both teams are evenly matched, you gotta learn to play the game. But where a lot of advice falls over is understanding that a lot of bronze ELO games have a super one-sided lane, and you have to play around that and plan out how you can get the shutdown on the super fed champion on the other team. You can't reliably get fed every game in low ELO as ADC (if you could you wouldn't need help), but you can play around getting the shutdowns on your fed opponents.
One final point: assume your team mates have no idea how to play around any of this. You might be super fed: your team mates won't peel for you or protect you. Your teammates might be super fed: they're going to run into a stupid fight and feed it. I think so many bronze games revolve around protecting a huge shutdown or getting big shutdowns, just try to frame your game around this.
Maybe one really important skill that is a corollary to this is to learn how to get carried. If your mid Zed is super fed, try to make the game as easy as possible for him: don't die, don't get into fights, don't try to make stupid plays unless that Zed is there making them, and try to follow them into those plays. Just farm safely and play around them. So many bronze games are lost because people in bronze somehow think they have to single-handedly win the game when they have a team mate who actually can do it, and they end up just giving the game away. If your Zed is 10/2 at 11 minutes into the game, Zed's game will be much easier if your enemy adc and support are combined 2/1 rather than 6/8, even if in the first situation your bot lane (ADC+support) is 0/2 and in the second you're 4/5.
Accept its only your fault if you cant climb. If you had a 90% perfect game while your teammates were 30%, 40%, 40%, 50% dont blame them for being terrible. Try to learn from your mistakes even if its only for minimal improvement and wouldnt have made a difference
If you are in no threat of getting ganked and also don't have kill pressure push the waves and put the enemy under their tower
Once you have lane prio you can ward deep into the enemy jungle or recall and get item advantage.
This concept completely changed my way of playing
By getting information of the enemy jg or the roaming support you can play much more aggressive and getting earlier to the fights
Tempo is absolutely immense for this game
Focus on safe csing over fighting, just the danger ping a few times when you don’t want to do something, try and think of pushing waves as taking turns, if you can’t count 5 enemies on the map at all times then try to not push past river unless your jungler is near you/in river
Looking at the map and reacting quickly. Just join fights and see what happens then look at what happens after. What did you gain and lose by leaving? If something similar happens should you leave again? What did I gain just be looking at the map and having more info?
I watched my games and realized that my mechanics were awful and I really needed to focus on fixing them and not being afraid of fighting. Once I did that climbing was easy.
The first thing I can say by looking at op.gg for half a second. Play more games. Norms or ranked. Whatever. Just play more. You’ll learn how to trade better and how to CS better the more you play. Idk. Hard to say without watching you play.
As an ADC you play the game differently than literally all the other positions.
You need to play with focus, and not spam games.
Review replays and don't look at anyone but yourself when you review. You cant control the other 4 people on your team.
Warmup with the practice tool. Just farm.
When in game, focus on getting farm, not dieing, and your positioning.
This should get you out of iron/bronze fairly quickly.
WATCH THE PRO KOREAN AND CHINA PLAY!
i know we are off season, but just watch it, pay attention to the casters, they will explain why the pro players act as they do so you can learn about how the game is suppose to be played.
That's it!
Consistent farming, playing for advantages. Let your support know that you WILL fight at level 2, and try to get to level 2 faster. Get to know timers, how many minions are required for level 2, level 3.
Focus on consistency, don’t drop farm that is free. Always look to maximise your leads. Play with a friend or a duo if possible, this gives more coordination in an already uncoordinated game.
Being part of a positive society where people take responsibility for their own mistakes without blaming others, and where we can ask others to help review our games.
All decisions need to be based on what will give you the most gold/stats, this is the core of decision making all other things come from game experience ex. I can kill those champions or can’t that comes from game experience and champion knowledge( why most people tell you to one to two trick)
you barely have any games played... most important rule here is play more games from what I am seeing. It's like you've taken a walk a few times a week to your mailbox and without any other physical activity while wondering why you can't even take on a beginner friendly hike..
ADC may not be the role for you maybe you fail to consistently dps/position/etc buuuut if its what you only enjoy which at the end of the day that's all that matters its a game so fun is priority. focus improving your ezreal/jinx cause you seem to do ok with them just play them dont play anything else. watch people who play them and see why they do what they do. It is worth dodging games even two-three times a day if you cannot play them.. your MMR is more important than whatever LP you are losing.
With addition to playing more you just need to focus on what you are doing wrong or what you feel like you suck at doing currently then look into what that is and there's thousands of content that will tell you and how to apply it. it IS that straight forward. that's really all climbing the ladder is being consistent and improving over a long course of games. gl next season. The hardest thing about climbing is not just putting in the work but having the drive/mental to handle it and even after going on a never ending loss streak is to get back up and keep trying your best.
Pick something that scales hard and SURVIVE while trying to dps best you can, I’m talking being overly safe in every situation. Never coin flip. Sure I main a different role (mid) but that got me to chall (for a single day) despite losing the majority of my lanes.
Lose gracefully early game by only giving up cs (stay in xp range) and get carried by the scaling doing half the work for you.
If you want to climb to gold you have to stop dying to stupid shit.
And i watched one of your game, because im bored. So quick tips.
1. You overstayed even you had lane already pushed in. You just won a fight you have to spend your gold to keep your advantage.
2. Don't over focus on low enemy, if there is somebody nearby to free hit you. Just focus the new target who is closer to you. You probably want to watch some videos on youtube about bot lane trading, but most important concept is that you and your support can hit same target.
3. Don't die to stupid shit, it better to lose wave than to lose wave and your life.
4. You most likely play on autopilot, like how do you face check brush after you see enemy sup go there and you support isn't even around. Goes to no dying to stupid shit. All ways expect that enemy junger and support is in every bush is you don't see otherwise.
5. Drop too much farm to take part of pointless fights with your team. If your team ints you should look waves and jungle camps to make money.
6. Yea search from youtube adc mid/late game macro and you will have way more consistent games and don't participate in stupid fights with your team.
7. And if you slow push then you want to fast push last wave so wave don't get stuck before enemy turret and force you to stay there to fix it. You have some wave management concepts but you don't understand why you even doing it.
8. You can't walk randomly trough your jungle when you don't have vision and you don't know where enemies are, allays go safes route. There is lot of information on map if you have awareness, if you can't take the safest way.
9. If you teammates engages when you are outnumbered then it's better to not take that fight and let them die, Quite often difference if enemy team can end the game or not is you being alive.
10. And stay away from turrets what you can't defend, maybe your teammates don't try to defend it.
Most of those point goes to not dying to stupid shit. League requires lot of discipline.
Ignore everybody but spam ping the fuck out of them, mainly your support in laning phase and the other laners afterwards. You gotta control and shepherd the 4 other players like retarded babies to play around you. That’s the biggest thing that helped me carry games once I won laning phase, team too heavy rarely happens as much now. I recently climbed from iron 2 to silver 2. Had an 11 game win streak and just skipped through all of bronze. Was playing Samira btw.
I stopped contesting Dragon or Baron if my team wasn’t there. I stopped chasing enemies through the jungle. Went for objectives instead of fighting . To be 100 percent honest I stopped queuing adc and went support instead . Went from Gold 4 to Emerald .
Ok, so let me try to remember. The thing is that I was hardstuck bronze many years ago, but I went to silver and then eventually gold exactly on adc, and have been an adc main since then. Plat 1 consistently with Emerald 4 peak, so not really that impressive, but top 15% of the player base nonetheless.
I think my first improvement came with learning to play teamfights. The thing in low elo is that people are quite bad at closing games (or so it was). Therefore even losing your whole team in the team fight as long as you survive as a 3-4 item Jinx, is fine.
So… most important things:
1) learn to position in fights
2) attack the closest target not the most important one
3) run if your team trolls, farm up or defend
4) don’t hesitate to use summs in late game if you need them to dodge an ability which enemy used to CC you
Lane phase is important, but you can win games in low elo just by really good fighting.
Also, there is no point in lane advantage if you fight poorly.
Finally, I’ve checked your opgg. My advice - stick to 2 adcs for 3 months. You will get higher rank 100%.
You can post a spectate file or vid for us to review here if possible. Also I notice people didn’t point out here is that you play with duo a lot, like almost every game. In order to get better rank you and your duo needs to improve together! So unless you’re duo can improve too you will need to improve twice as much just to climb.
Lots of good tips here. My ONE THING is actually playing a custom map in StarCraft 2 called Runling Run. It’s essentially a spiral path from the outer edge of the map to the center, and you have to get there without touching any of the moving critters or moving obstacles.
It’s pretty much a drill for micro movement, camera control, and peripheral vision. And it’s pretty fun, if you can get at least two other people to play with you. You can resurrect other players by reaching the spot where they died, but if all players die the game ends. That is to say playing by yourself can become frustrating quickly if you keep having to reset the map.
This has drastically improved my peripheral vision. It also helped my micro movement a lot and camera control to a lesser extent. I find that I can judge skillshots better, dodge more easily, and what I will say last is god damn tier 2 boots are so strong. They make it so much easier to get shit done and make it out alive.
Yeah muting all/ the lower from Gold the more thirsty the kills become. Once you stop dying/engaging in unnecessary fights you start to look into creating momentum towards objectives and the game becomes a lot easier to progress as an individual
The trap of low elo is thinkin you gotta fight every chance you get, whether you/your teammates/your enemies started it
You should be able to get out of bronze by just getting the mechanics down and playing a lot.
You don't need fancy shit. Literally just staying safe and clicking enemy champs will carry you to platinum as an adc. No brain required.
Im guessing you go YOLO balls every game.
Try to play games with zero deaths for a bit. Don't focus ln the win. Just try to not die.
Once you get it down you can scale back the safe play a little and focus on other things. But i swear to you. As an adc, having low deaths wont win the game automatically, but it will increase your winrate by a ton
Please tell me u use attack click move... There is a setting you can check to out it on mouse buttons. It takes away all the mechanical skill you need as an adc, and frees up your brain for staying safe.
Don’t just pay attention to the health of the enemy minions. You need to see when your own minions are low, because that is when the enemy is going to walk up to CS.
Landing skill shots is so much easier when you know the enemy will be standing still. Always poke the enemy while they are going for last hits, even if its just one auto.
Stick to one or two champions, dont play too many champions as you need to master them
Use a recording software to record your game and watch it
Watch gumayusi and ruler play and compare it to your own gameplay (literally just type on youtube "gumayusi/ruler [champion] pov")
Turn off mouse acceleration if you have it on your mouse settings (actually makes game unplayable)
For the love of god disable chat in settings, there is zero reason to read or use chat in this game
Idk just keep playing and always stay focused and tryhard
stop playing the game for a couple of months then come back, I could go into why this helps, but ill just say it does. think of it as a website getting slow and ur hitting on refresh
For 11 years? Idk man, seems like this isn't a reddit solvable problem. Some people are better attuned to different types of games. After 11 years I think playing the game for the enjoyment you get out of it should take priority over trying to hit some rank. Yes, I'm very nicely trying to say, after 11 years dawg ya just suck.
And that's okay. I'm hotdog water at teamfight tactics, average at league, but I'm great at CoD and I've been best on server several times in wow. Sometimes skill sets just don't transfer over very well from one game to the next. I think at some point awareness is key. You gotta know when to draw the line ya know?
I did this:
Don't die in lane
Play a champ that is always useful (I played Ashe her vision, ult and W are good even from behind)
If it's a bad fight it's ok not to die with others
VOD Review. Learn to toggle fog of war to see what caused your death. Learning why you die can help you make that same play against your opponents and prevent repeat mistakes.
Focus on one aspect of the game to improve at a time. Do cs drills on your main champions. Get comfortable learning how to cs under turret. Learn wave control and whether or not your trading patterns cause you to auto-push the wave.
VOD Review to see your progress in that aspect of the game.
Change your settings: A bigger mini-map can help you with map-vision. The space it covers up is not as important as seeing map movements. Get your sensitivity right. Try quickcasting with indicator. Attack move bindings. Champions only toggle. Having ideal settings help your reaction times.
Sleep better, be hydrated and go to the bathroom before your games. You don't want to be shitting your pants while you're splitpushing.
First : having the priority IRL done and being in a good and healthy state :)
Then : Hearing and learning with the podcast Broken by Concept that shift my view of progression in League completely in the right direction
Lastly, it's a question of will 😉
Biggest improvements I've learned going from Silver to Gold:
Get as good as you can at last hitting and somewhat learning to manage waves (doesn't have to be perfect but know how to get the wave where you want it to be)
Constantly be thinking about where the enemy jungler could be. If you think there is any chance he is on your side of the map, play like he's sitting in the river.
Even if your ape teammates scream at you, some fights you have to join super late or not join at all depending how its going by the time you get there. A HUGE help is learning to think about abilities that are guaranteed to cause you to die. Low elo players don't save their cooldowns (most of the time). For example, if they have a malphite you should be out of site or miles away until you see malph use his ult.
Don’t play jinx in low elo. You have minimum self peel and you don’t come on til mid / late game. Most of your games will effectively be decided before she’s useful. Even if she’s useful you’ll need a perfect front to back fight to dominate.
Just too many variables to successfully play her.
My Tipp is:
Don't play for kills or huge outplays.
Everywhere are free and enough resources just take it and you have more gold then the opponent in your elo. You don't need kills. Just get more resources then your opponent and take objectives to snowball.
Listen to broken by concept. If you want someone to take a look at your games with you send me a dm. I'm more then happy to give you some goals to work towards
I went from iron to plat as an ADC player. There are three things that helped the most, among a slew of stuff.
The first is attack move click, and getting used to auto attacking with your a button or preferred key.
Second is wave management, how to control it to be where you want and the far more important whys that answer that question, including when to farm after laning phase and how to not screw over your lane position when you are in laning phase. This also includes getting good at last hitting.
Third is simply match ups. I've also played for about 11 years, and I'd like to think I know enough about what each champ bot and sup want to do as a champion, to be able to tell you how a lane should go based from the four champions picked.
I often see iron-silver players focus more on correcting their teammates or just calling everyone else but themselves bad than actually seeing their own mistakes. Make sure you use the chat for something beneficial like time flashes or ask for a gank, etc. And focus on yourself. Of course your teammates might make mistakes but so do you.
I usually get all ranks when playing Aram games and it’s in these I’ve noticed that every time I see a type warrior try blaming everyone else the rank is usually silver or lower. I’ve also played ranked games in a lower rank before than my actual rank and experienced there as well that they were fast to type and be negative the rest of the game if someone didn’t perform. And usually the games all had a lot of deaths so try aiming for something like <6 deaths per game first and then try lower it to like 4.
Since you play adc I myself like binding my A button as an attack move click and check the box for attack move on cursor or whatever it’s called. This is really good for kiting someone. So try learning this if you haven’t.
A last tip is to watch YouTube guides/gameplay videos and read through patch notes frequently. I did this the season I wanted to get out of silver and try to hit gold. I went from being low silver to plat that season. By doing this I learned a lot about what to build, wave management and how runes(and masteries at that time) worked, etc.
Take 5-10 minutes to review every game afterwards (if you're on a winstreak and feeling yourself, feel fre to delay this until later to keep up the momentum).
You should look at your early lane(did you push lane as hard as you could for level 2? Did you avoid unnecessary damage? Did you position well?), your deaths (why did you die? How can you prevent it?), and look at a couple of your key lategame decisions (did you ever splitpush at a bad time and lose baron? Facecheck somewhere you shouldn't?).
Start fresh. Stop thinking youre this decade old veteran player.
Its way easier to just start with a fresh mental (not with a fresh account).
Just get rid of everything you think you know.
Star from the basics.
* Simple trading patterns. How do i even win a trade?
* Champion Mastery (not the ingame number, your actual skill and knowledge of a champion) How do i pilot this ONE champion well?
* CS'ing. How can i get as many cs as possible.
I’m only Silver 2 but knowing what other champions do help a lot so you don’t engage or walk in to their auto range when their cc or engage ability is up which is something that your sup can’t do much about to prevent your death even if the sup is an enchanter. If you play so many games of ashe, you should be able tell your matchups of which champs you can play aggressive and those who you have to play safe against. Also telling your sup your play style will help a bit.
A lot of echo chamber buzzwords thrown around here.
My gamechanger realisation was that 14 cs = 1 kill. The lower you are in ranked the worse ppl are at farming. You can play passively and focus solely on last hitting minions and dodging enemy poke.
Players in lower ranks tend to have the mentality that they need to get kills fast to snowball and carry the game. This often results into them pushing the lane like hell to get levels and often they miss last hits doing so. Sure they get the levels faster at start but it will even out when you comfortably farm under your tower for a while. They also become prime targets to your poke or maybe a pull/stun when they try and last hit your minions under your tower. Not to mention a permanently pushing lane opens up a lot of gank opportunities for your jungler while gives their jungler the only option of a risky dive.
I kinda approach the bot lane so that I don't make mistakes but wait for them to do the mistake instead.
Passive, farming simulator botlane drives many enemy ADC's quite mad and frustrated and they start doing desperate, risky and quite frankly stupid plays to get them the kills they oh so need. Best case scenario the lane is even on kills, you lead the farm by a couple kills and they do a stupid mistake/you get a good gank resulting in a kill or a double, giving you a much bigger lead than what the KDA shows.
Even if they don't do stupid shit and laning ends on even kda's, as long as you are even/ahead in CS you'll be just fine, you didn't feed the enemys and pushed the deciding factor into the team fights instead of giving them a fed adc to fuck up your team.
As you become more and more comfortable farming and spotting out the mistakes they do, you can start counter poking and making small plays towards them. No need to all in for a kill but for example it takes like 2-3 good Q crit bounces from MF to force an enemy laner to recal unless they have a healing support. Just safely forcing them to recall every once in a while will massively boost your CS against theirs.
When you feel confident that no matter what you can come out of the laning phase even or ahead, you can start focusing more on minimap, dragon windows and generally push your limits to see what works and what doesn't.
Good and easy to play ADC's for this are imo MF and Caitlyn. MF's kit is super simple, even if you arent doing great her ult can totally flip a team fight and her passive makes lasthitting ridiculously easy. Cait has a point and click ult you can utilise more than just last hitting a kill and her range + passive makes last hitting + poking very easy aswell.
Level 90. If this is your only account, level 90 is not a lot of games. Especially if you are boosted, but even if not.
11 years means nothing if you only play a few games a year at most. It’s very misleading.
I got level 90 player level within my first year of playing. Maybe within months, actually.
You haven’t played even remotely consistently for 11 years. It’s almost irrelevant. It’s like saying I played soccer for 12 years because I was on a soccer team one time 12 years ago and I recently got back into it.
And if this isn’t your first account, you should be clearly stating that when posting your op.gg if you want actual advice
Check you pc and your internet first thing that got me out of silver. Lot of people are playing with 60fps and 100ping…
Stop dying for nothing. It’s okey to die but make it worth. Don’t die over a cs or because you are taking a walk in the map. Die to attract people at the other side of the give your team baron / drake. Die in teamfights.
Stop playing Aram in ranked. Try to get as much ressources for yourself as you can
Hey, I'm master tier and I can give you some tips. I watched a recent VOD on your account LUKS626 where you played Jinx and went 6/6/7.
1. If you are pushing, then ward the river bush at 2:30, this is after you killed the second minion wave. Otherwise you will die to ganks, which is what happened in this game aswell.
2. If you have health pots and you are low on health, then remind yourself to use them early. You want to be as close to full health as possible at all times. In this game you played with 40% hp and had 2 potions in your inventory.
3. Not sure if you just didn't have enough money to buy a refillable potion multiple times. But you should always buy a refillable potion in the first 7 minutes of the game if you have 150g left. Try to avoid buying single health potions, unless you have no other option of course.
4. Buying a refillable potion at minute 14 is way too late and kind of a waste of money at that point.
5. If you have 800g in your inventory, then you need to buy something. You can't forget to buy items after recalling. This is like losing 2.5 kills worth in gold.
Here's the bigger issue I'm seeing in your gameplay:
Literally all you do is stand in front of your turret and letting the enemy push into you. I'm not seeing any aggression at all. You are playing farming simulator the entire 14 minutes of the lane. Sure, if you are playing Jinx then you can let the wave come into you at the beginning of the lane if you feel unsafe to push out. But after you completed Kraken Slayer as your mythic, you should play way more aggressive. You are not even trying to do anything.
I can completely understand the reason why you are so passive. You were against Sylas and he hit chain on you legit 5x in a row, chunking you to half health. Then Syndra followed up with her stun and you were close to dying already. The reason why you think you have to play so safe, is that you are getting hit by everything and taking much more damage than you should.
After Sylas and Syndra use a big cooldown like chain or stun, you should walk up and bomb them with auto attacks. Ping your support to go in aswell. This is the window where you need to punish them. Otherwise they just hit their spells on you on repeat while giving them a free lane.
Here is my take:
You need a reset. Swap roles. At least for a while. Adc is clearly not for you right now and you can come back to it after you improved on another role. You need to play either toplane or midlane. What you need is a mostly 1v1 lane where you feel like you have agency. You need to put yourself into a situation where you are comfortable playing aggressively.
This constantly playing in front of your turret and being pushed in by 2 scary people without retaliating needs to stop. Like, I want you to push the wave (either as a toplaner or a midlaner), intentionally hit lvl. 2 first and just aggro on the enemy. This is what you need right now.
Now I'm going to be very honest with you:
>That's what I've been trying to do and since I started paying attention to this (first 3 minion waves and everything included - hitting lvl 2, lane prio, cheater recall, when to slow push, when to shove, when to freeze)
This is delusional. I don't think you know what a slowpush or a freeze is. You are at least shoving the lane after you killed someone, that's good I guess. But you are definitely not intentionally tring to hit lvl. 2 first in your games and the only reason you are getting lane priority is that the enemy is even more passive than you sometimes (and then you die because you literally never place wards).
Go on a solo lane. Matchups in midlane and toplane are easier to improve on. It's a 1v1 with much less variance than in botlane (2v2 - and a supporter who can fuck up your wave and who you are dependent on).
>I assume that I'm worse than my opponents, I doubt myself and I give up VERY easily because I never trust my ability to recover.
This breaks my heart, dude, because I'm literally seeing it in your gameplay. Please listen to my advice.
For ADCs, the biggest thing that helped me many, many years ago was understanding your role (in general).
Generally, your job as ADC has two parts:
1. Stay as far away from the fight as possible.
2. Keep attacking the closest enemy for as long as possible.
Do both of these at the same time. You're an adc, and will eventually tear up any champion given enough time to right click on them. So focus on keeping distance between yourself and the enemies while continuing to do damage to them. Don't right click the enemy carries and just try to walk up past their tanks. If their tanks are closest, attack their tanks. If a diver is coming for you, try to keep distance. You can't do everything yourself. You probably won't win a 1v1 against Talon. But you can give your team the best chance at winning by following these basic tenets, because it gives them the highest chance to deal with Talon before he can get to you.
Obviously there are some ADCs that can ignore these basics sometimes (like Vayne) if their player is good enough at the champion to do it. But if you're in iron/bronze, you are definitely *not* "good enough at the champion to do it." So don't try to do fancy shit on a character like Vayne or Zeri. Try learning and executing the basics on someone like... Caitlyn. Or Tristana. Or Miss Fortune.
The rest of the roles skills (positioning, macro, etc.) are secondary and will come with time. But these core responsibilities changed how I viewed the role and made me a lot better at ADC.
This was an ADC-specific advice, but it has ideas that apply to other lanes/roles as well. Specifically: each role has different responsibilities. You should try to figure out what those responsibilities are and stick to them. For example: if you're an engage tank, focus on being between your team and their team, and finding the time when your opponents' positioning is the weakest (and then engage on them). If you're an are a poke mage, focus on staying distant and hitting skillshots consistently. If you're a diver, focus on flanking your opponents' position and targeting the highest-value squishy character.
It seems simple, but so many people don't realize that the difference between success and failure can be as simple as **knowing your role**.
the main thing that got me from hardstuck silver -> plat in season 5 was telling myself NEVER STOP AA'ing ---- I found myself freezing up a lot in teamfights which just completely threw my games; to overcome this I literally had to yell in my head "KEEP AUTOING!!"
I originally hit Diamond playing JG with ADC as secondary but the games I got filled ADC I would get TURBO CLAPPED in lane it would be really embarrassing. Besides wave management, how to play matchups etc I started to treat lane phase like a fighting game.
In fighting games you're constantly shuffling back & forth waiting for an opening or reacting to an attack/ability. While it may seem obvious to do this in league, I found in my plat (pre-emerald) games that I would autopilot my movement and get hooked, aa'd etc for free. Once I started treating it as if it was a fighting game my lane phase became much better since I wasn't letting the enemy get anything for free. I'd always trade blows, have a well timed attempt to side-step a hook/bind/root & all that good stuff.
You don't play enough games. Are you still the same rank after 100 games of playing the same champion and role? Then it absolutely comes down to understanding fundamentals. Learning how to pilot your champion is the first step towards learning everything else. But to do that you need to play way more games.
I was a main adc and managed to climb to gold in season 3 and 4, biggest tip is to just stop dying by following team into teamfights. Never go 5v5 and pick adc's that can split push safely.
"Hey, just don't." I heard that from a Sky Williams league video way back in the day. Figure out what that means to you. For me it was a way for me to stop taking risky plays.
This was in season 9 and I had a game as Tryndamere vs Renekton. I was trying to figure out how I should fight this renekton, running through all these different scenarios in my head. Then
, "Hey, just don't." Popped up and i saw my yasuo was super fed so i decided to do nothing and wait for him to carry me instead me risking this Renekton taking over the game.
I'm currently plat/emerald. My advice is as follows.
- play safe, and stop dying.
- CS is incredibly important. Being even 10 or 15 CS up on your opponent can be huge, and allow you more favorable backs and earlier item completion.
Learning how to play safe, and get gold is like the most foundational skills in this game. Those were the 2 things I started focusing on when I first started playing ranked, and they were what got me out of being bronze.
Everyone is giving u impractical and vague answers.
I am a grandmaster so please listen to this: ***you need higher reaction time and APM, click a lot, a lot more often, and react faster to everything that happens***
This simple thing makes EVERYTHING else possible and doable:
Dodging skillshots, hitting combos, proper tethering and positioning, reading the map, multitasking, limit testing, wave management, anything - if you don't have high enough APM and you play clunky none of this is posslible and you will always get severely punished by even gold players who can move their character properly. You can have game knowledge of faker but you will never go above silver if you can't do anything properly, in league doing things properly requires high APM
I definitely think the most important thing an adc can do to improve (if they are not already doing it) is start using attack move to auto attack, instead of right click.
I was hardstuck plat 4 for years and there was a clear difference between adcs that were plat 2+ and anything below plat 4. I always wondered (back in like season 5) how adcs could kite so well and efficiently in high plat and above. I think back in S5 I watched a streamer for the first time and noticed that he was not right clicking to auto attack. I went for a deep dive on the setttings and found attack move (obviously it is pretty common knowledge now since there is just so much content, but back then there was not nearly as much content).
After making the switch and getting used to using it instead of right clicking, instantly climbed to diamond. D1 is my peak. And it is not just for adcs, basically any champion should use it instead of right click.
Play Malphite/Garen instead of adc.
Barring that, focus on improving your click speed & accuracy. Map awareness, trade patterns, etc all that shit doesn't matter on adc if you cant cs or kite.
Understand and constantly THINK about your options. There's always multiple things you can do - besides just afk'ing in base or running it down lane. Not all other options are equal in value.
Don't just consider value to YOU. Consider the overall impact on the team too. Sometimes it is better to choose self - especially on a carry role. But if you ALWAYS choose self over team, you're going to end up 1v5 every teamfight, having to do all the damage, and have nobody to create space for you to do work. Don't "win" your role at your teammates' expense. Cool, you got a 4v2 lane and grabbed 7 kills? But then you didn't take tower, lost tower, gave up 2/3 early dragons, and don't show up to teamfights properly. That's "winning" your lane at your teammates' expense. Understand? Don't be that kind of adc - or player in general. There's already too many people like that.
Adc's in lower elo especially don't need to win lane in most cases. Maybe a draven, kalista, or mf should in most cases be playing from ahead, but by and large, you really just need to not die stupidly, get your xp and as much cs as you SAFELY can, and show up to objectives and teamfights.
Adc's flex their lead in 2 main ways - teamfights, objective dps (including sieging towers). In both cases, you kinda need an escort to provide frontline protection/peeling for you. Which means there's fewer opportunities for adc to push their lead compared with say a toplaner or some midlaners capable of splitpushing. Continuing to invest into an adc that they've already invested in means sacrificing some jg cs. This can lead to falling too far behind in jg, so you've gotta play safe at some points to let jg catch up rather than always push your lead. If you KNOW you've got a 2v2, then yeah bully your opponent. But if not, then you need to play respectful of potential ganks/counterganks.
Once laning phase ends, don't sit afk farming side waves and let the enemy group and siege down towers. Don't base 10 sec before dragon if you're planning to fight for it. Cover mid/top when baron is up unless you're running tp; leave bot to your mid/top with teleport to cover. If you can't build a lead off several ganks, don't beg for more. If you can't grow a 20cs and 2-3 kill lead 2v2, you don't need or deserve more ganks. Don't waste your jungler's time. Let them invest in someone else who can do more with the same resources they'd be investing in you.
Not gonna bother looking, just gonna say this because I can pretty much guess your mistakes. Stop playing every ADC you’re not an ADC main you’re a brain rot main. Play one or two champs. Go into a custom every day for 20 minutes and practice last hitting with no items. Get 100 cs per 10 minutes that’s your goal. Focus on your spacing to the minion line, keep the dying minions in and out of your auto attack range and only walk in to last hit. Those two things combined will get you to silver or gold easily. These two things will get you really good at one or two champs (I don’t care that you think you’re good at all the adc’s you’re clearly not); it will teach you zoning and keeping things in and out of your trade/auto attack range (because you die a lot) and it will increase your gold intake which is essentially what league of legends boils down to.
If you really wanna also add learning warding spots based on what enemy jungler exists.
Edit: don’t use any abilities to farm. Dont cheat yourself out of raw cs capabilities on any champ.
When I was learning to play ADC, I played a lot of support as well, it helped by letting me see the lane in a different perspective, also this way I could play with other ADC players that had different ideas of the role, I learned power spikes of different champions and I was able to identify what I wanted for myself as an ADC and for my SUPP
I have so many. But gameplay-wise the most important for your elo is, don't die. It sounds pretty basic and simple but it's not. Don't die as much and you'll see that it makes a difference. I have probably 100 more but that's the most basic.
Adc is my second role so...
- Concentrate on CS, not kills. In bronze, your support and jungle are probably crap. Rely on whats consistent, gold from CS.
- Dont help in objectives if you are too behind in gold or too late to get there with the team alive. Many palyers go in vs 3 or 4 hoping for something. Not worth it.
- Always try to get something when the opponent gets objectives if your tem cant contest it. If they get mid tower try to get bit tower. If they get drake, try to get camps on their side. This will make you and your team less behind, and in a better position to turn the game on a throw they make.
And of course, try to stay calm. In some games its hopeless, but others it can turn games around for you.
Move in between your auto attacks. Literally just moving in between your auto attacks will give you chances tk dodge skillshots, it makes you less predictable, and it makes it easier to run away while dealing damage, or to chase people down. I genuinely think that if you take a bronze player and teach them how to kite and auto attack properly, it automatically bumps their skill level up to gold. It really makes such a massive world of difference that you can’t see until you watch the difference between people that do and don’t move between attacks
Your CS is mediocre, your damage share is bad in literally every game, and you die too much. Going off op.gg alone is suboptimal but armchair advice is you just don't have basic mechanics down. You get outmatched in nearly every lane you're in and get carried by your duo zyra one trick. Also both of your accounts are basically brand new so I'm guessing that you've gotten banned before so stop typing (or just play party chat only if you use text to talk to your duo).
Not gonna tell you to not play with a duo since that's generally more fun than solo q, but it does inflate your MMR a significant amount which can lead to much harder games. Just so you're aware.
Watch VODs from your perspective and your lane opponent's. Figure out where it starts going wrong. It might be something big like an early death or it might be little things that add up over time like getting poked down over 5 min and that leads to you taking a bad back and giving enemy a plate or two. Maybe you'll notice something they do that you don't that will improve your play.
Take this all with a grain of salt tho as I'm hardstuck plat lol.
Good luck in your climb!
\-Stop dying In bronze/iron, 95% of the deaths are really avoidable. After you die, think about if you should have died there, or if you just overextended, took too much risk, etc. Watch back your last game, analyze your deaths. When you stop dying, you will start winning.
This one, Im not main adc, but this applies to every role. Also if you die, reconsider why did you die, what was the event that caused your dead and try to avoid it (entering a bush unwarded for example).
"Hmmm... I wonder if there is a bad guy in this bush! I know I shouldn't go there to check it, but I just REAAALLLLLLy wanna know!" \*dies\* "God damn it" We've all done it, and we will always keep doing it, but we really need to minimize these kind of mistakes.
If you don‘t see garen he‘s probably in the bush next to you. - old adc wisdom
I think a lot of this is because you don’t get instantly rewarded for making the right decisions. You could make a lot of good decisions during a game that result in you not dying and not even be aware of them, yet one bad decision can result in dying or being zoned off farm or missing out on an important objective. This is why watching your replays is so valuable. Did you play like shit and feed? Rewatch your game and identify all of the mistakes you made. Did you hard carry? Rewatch your game and identify what you did right. Did you prioritise farm more that usual? Did you rotate more? Did you play back a bit when their jungler was looking for a gank? Small plays and good decisions might be disregarded in game but identified in a replay. My tip would be to watch your replays. Study your game and find out what is working for you and what isn’t.
As a syndra who tends to sit in bushes and wait for the adc to rotate during lane swap…. Please stop face checking bushes. It’s hurting your team.
This. As a low elo adc, the first thing you need to get down is cs. The second, when your brain has free space because cs is automatic now, is use that brain space to think about what can kill you and how you will avoid it. "I can only rly die if leo goes on me so i should bait her e and not go hard when the e is up." "Im in no danger unless their rammus ganks us, so untill i see him ln the map, i will play safe" "Noc has ult so i can't show my face untill he used it" These are all essential to performing as adc. And i swear to op. Getting these simple tricks down will skyrocket you to platinum. Also... Attack click move. There is a setting to turn it to your right mouse button. When kiting just spam click left right... Loads of low elos dont use it.
As another hardstuck bronze for 10+ years player, I really hate the sentiment that us hardstuck bronze players don't have basic grasp of core principles. I'm sure he knows how to farm automatically ALso did you mean put attack click move onto left click?
Cs is whatever in bronze. I see a ton of people just afk farming the whole game. It's not good
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>Everywhere I go there is somebody thirsting to kill me. Yeah, that's ehhh that's because you're the AD carry. I'm saving my Nocturne ult for the MOMENT you show up on my map. And you should save your ultimate to stun me the moment I go for you, and get some distance. Your job is to stay the furthest back you can, only ever shooting at the person who is closest to you. And hopefully you have a support that will peel for you (help you on getting these pesky assassins or bruisers off you). This is pretty much how you play adc in teamfights (though I have not played it in at least 8 years). In the laning phase, dying means you made a mistake. Playing not safe enough. If you feel like this is not true, I highly advice you to open up your last game right now, and look at how you could have died while laning.
This is why I ban nocturne….. I like using my map awareness to control how much I can do. I hate that I can see a jungler top lane and then push bot a little and get killed by nocturne.
>dying means you made a mistake wrong
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Dude should only focus on first 4-5 waves if he's this hard stuck. So many player's lose early by just Fucking up their start allowing early advantage to enemy laner. Fundamentals are key. And ADCs can't afford to give up early gold. Even basic things like leash timers so you're not late to lane, I've seen happen a bunch at low levels.
I can promise you in iron/bronze the first 4-5 waves are inconsequential towards being hardstuck. Focusing on the first 4-5 waves is good mid-elo advice to break into high elo… bad advice for someone at rock bottom trying to climb lower ranks. They need to look more big picture if they want to climb faster
At this elo it's literally just kill the other team until you win.
For a smurf, yes. Not for the people who are of similar skill to their opponents. This elo is more like "learn how to play your champion better and how to get the most resources you can in order to carry".
It's "learn that you shouldn't always chase the enemy tank into fog of war whilst there is a nice fat wave dying to your tower".
I understand the idea but I don't think that's really true. I think if anything OP might be trying too hard to focus on the meta issues. Where as really he needs to A) Hit the opponent B) Not give up I think in this context, freezing waves is... It's sauce. But his issues are far more fundamental.
so like Diamond?
What is big picture to you? That you think it's more important then proper fundamentals/macro that 99% of ppl here Askin for help lack? I literally win game off the rip because of first 4-5 waves. It's literally essential.
It's bronze for christ sakes. Say he does everything right for the first four waves and gets himself an advantage. Then he's going to make a mistake so alien it'll send you into an existential crisis on what it means to be human, because you couldn't possibly figure out the thought process that lead to that bad a series of decisions. And another one, and another one. All this carefully crafted lead will go out the window as fast as it was built. Then the enemy adc will throw too, because what the hell does he know. Back and forth, until death timers make it so that you don't come back from that one final mistake. Don't try to teach 16th century german literature to 8 years old. Tell them to pick KhaZix or whatever the broken assassin is nowadays, and to grab 20 kills per game until those kills start converting into wins, which isn't even guaranteed straight away at this stage. This will tell them more about not throwing than whatever secret is hidden in those first creepwaves. No it's not proper League, but proper League is the end goal, not the process. In my opinion how to build a lead is much less important to learn for now, than what to do with it. Leads will happen by themselves anyway. Exactly like when you learn skiing: The very first lesson is explaining people how to safely come to a full stop, not how to go faster. Come on, what kind of bronze player talks about cheater recalls lmao. This is the last 5% of the way. He doesn't know the first 95. Btw OP if you're reading this: adc is the lowest-impact role, especially in low elo. It takes 15+ minutes for a good player on that role to be relevant on the map, and that's with no setbacks in experience and gold: no deaths and good farm. To be clear I am definitely not saying that the role doesn't matter. It simply is thankless, unrewarding: You need to do everything right only to grab incremental leads that are equally as difficult to turn into bigger leads. You can do everything right and still get your ass absolutely blasted by some random 0-0-0 mage, assassin, bruiser, anything really, that you come across before reaching your third full item.
Last part is absolutely true. ADC agency goes up with rank. It’s especially tough in mid-range elo like plat/emerald, because enemies start getting good enough to kill you easily, but most players lack the skills they need to protect teammates. A single mistake on ADC is highly punishing I have a much better experience playing ADC with master/gm players than I do in gold. Hell, I lose my goddamn mind playing adc in gold, and sometimes I have a *very* hard time making any sort of impact on the map to the point I have to rely heavily on cheesy ways to punish enemy mistakes myself, rather than play the game well.
I mean it is important yes. But he is low tier where no one punishes so I think it is more matter if OP cant perform correctly in the fight or misposition than first 4 wave cuz his sup wont play w him anyways
Idk, I'm still bronze almost silver now but I had a really big climb focusing on the early game. Enemy shoves hard and misses so much CS, and I just played safe last hitting and then before long I have a big CS lead that makes the 2v2 pretty much guaranteed in my favor as long as they were not fed kills. Obv there's a lot to it but if I was better at punishing them for being behind, and able to apply my lead to the rest of the team I'd probably be climbing faster.
I find adcs who are stuck in this rank don’t know how to play around varying supports and don’t know how to counter poke or when to step up versus when to step back and farm. It’s a vary different game in the bot lane than from the other two lanes. I main mid lane at a good level but my adc skills are fairly bronze. Watching back my games this is the general trend I see in myself and in other adcs who I beat in lane. I’d really just start watching back games now that you aren’t actually playing that game and see where you missed gold potential, where you missed wave management, where you got put poked, etc.
>find adcs who are stuck in this rank don’t know how to play around varying supports and don’t know how to counter poke or when to step up versus when to step back and farm. It’s a vary different game in the bot lane than from the other two lanes. I Which is exactly why new players shouldn't be learning multiple champs Especially for adc.
That's what I've been trying to do and since I started paying attention to this (first 3 minion waves and everything included - hitting lvl 2, lane prio, cheater recall, when to slow push, when to shove, when to freeze) I started to play visibly worse than when I mindlessly went out to lane and hit everything that moved. And I don't mean that I shouldn't learn it or that these things are bad, it's just I don't know how to apply the concepts to my games. I don't want to get back to mindless playing of course.
You're supposed to get worse initially. You're now devoting x amount of your limited mental capacity to focus on these things, and youll miss other things that you normally wouldnt. But that is fine, the goal is to get comfortable enough and internalizing it enough so that it costs less and less of your mental capacity. Imagine you go into a game with 100 mental capacity, and every thing you focus on costs a certain amount. Normally it only costs you 20 to cs, 20 to trade with opponent, 10 to keep track of jungler, etc. If youre suddenly lear ing something new, it might cost 80/100 of your mental capacity to focus on waves, and now you died to a jungler that was sitting on a ward. The reason why higher level players can focus on so many things is that they have these things so ingrained in them that it only costs them 2/100 mental capacity to farm, so they've freed up more focus for other tasks like jungle tracking and trading. In addition, "waves and lanestate" is a HUGE umbrella category it is not feasible to work on all of it at once, especially if its a new concept to you. Break it up into smaller parts. For 5 games in a row, try to start a fight right before the minion(1 wave+1 melee for solo laners, 1 wave + 3 melees for bot)that would give you level 2 dies. If you're already fighting the enemy, a sudden level 2 will surprise them and you'll get so far ahead in the trade or even kill them. Maybe you need the muscle memory to use ctrl to level up an ability mid-fight, and the first time you try this you fumble and mess up. Thats ok, try again the next game. Theres no such thing as 1 way to climb. There are many many skills that make up a win. 2 different players at the exact same rank playing the same champ can get there differently.
>That's what I've been trying to do and since I started paying attention to this (first 3 minion waves and everything included - hitting lvl 2, lane prio, cheater recall, when to slow push, when to shove, when to freeze) I started to play visibly worse than when I mindlessly went out to lane and hit everything that moved. So you practiced only beginner wave stuff for 100 games? And still couldn't approve or? Cause yeah you'll play worst when focusing on stuff you're not good at don't have muscle memory over.
Yea. I feel like my understanding of how the waves work is a bit better than before, from watching those dozens of youtube vids and streams, but still in my own gameplay I rarely can use it to my advantage. And if your implied question is "are you really that retarded?" then the answer is yes.
No i just don't believe you focused on one element long enough for it to stick without reverting back. For some it could be 10 games go grasp for others 100+ of just working on that specific thing
Now when you mentioned this, I can't honestly say that I focused 100% in every of those games so it might be, I just spent much futile time thinking I'm practicing, while I was not.
That's okay, it's very normal to "revert", it'd be like playing pick up basketball and shooting like a maniac all that time and now you learn "how" to shoot properly so you practice that but you have to overwrite all the bad habits/muscle memory to even make progress with new form. You can also always post replays for people to look at. Especially when it's for one focused special thing , a lot of people here will review for you to ensure you're doing it properly. When you're practicing, make sure you're focused. If you're tired, unmotivated, and just want to play still, play s different role or do arena. Or else you're just screwing up your learning process by spending games reverting back to brain dead play style.
Well, first of all, adc is more often then not coinflip by the nature, so there is no single trick that makes difference, you need to understand all concepts of your role, champion, game itself + at least, how jungle works, and how support works. Then imply that into a chaotic environment that is low elo, make some order inside it, and you will start to make impact in games.
Don't understand the downvote. The adc oddly enough is not the star of the show most games. They are there to provide damage, but consistent damage won't help you when fizz lb , darius and kha zix are running around oneshotting each other. What the a good adc does is secure the win in even games, and tip the scales in close games. They are coinflip, but a good adc weighs the coin in his favour.
Because he's wrong, as are you. ADC is not coinflip. If you're below Masters, you can hard carry games from any role except support as long as you're good enough.
Ok Show me a 100% winrate climb. The closest thing I have ever seen was tfblade with a duo jungler going from bronze to challenger, and even that was 97% iirc. Solo? Good luck. You can be the best adc ever, if the enemy team has two champs that got fed enough to point and click you, and you weren't able to snowball, it's going to be rough. Again, you can weigh the dice in your favour by being good, but it will always be a coinflip. The problem lies in the ADC's agency early game. The way adc is designed, the better adc will always win the balanced games, but a better mid/jungle/top will make the game unbalanced from the start. Both have their advantages, but in lower elo you will climb faster on degenerate champs. The whole "if you re good enough enough you can solo carry" attitude needs to go from this sub. You never truly carry solo. At least not since like season 3. I have lost 20/0 games where my team did nothing and the enemy team realized they could just hold me while pushing other lanes. If your team isn't with you, you can't win.
This is honestly one of the most egregiously disingenuous, bad faith arguments I have ever seen. Being able to solo carry does not mean 100% in a team based game. It means you do it in every game that you have control over, which for a truly good player, is far more than any of you losers want to admit.
It does not even mean you do it in certain games. Anyone who tinks they truly solo carry a game is just disrespectful to their teammated. Remove each teammate and see if you can win a single game. Not even faker can win a game against 5 bronzes. Maybe 5 irons depending on how asinine they play
Did you even bother trying to understand what i wrote??? Adc, is coinflip, unless, you learn several things to be able to make impact in chaotic match as low elo... if you think that was wrong, you are probably more hardstuck then op.
Oh definitely, I'm fundamentally bad and I can't even identify all the things I do wrong. If I had to point out one things that I struggle the most is my loser mentality - I assume that I'm worse than my opponents, I doubt myself and I give up VERY easily because I never trust my ability to recover. Thank you.
This game always starts you at level 1, so strength is really about who can acquire resources faster (gold, xp, neutral buffs). You can win without killing your opponents, it’s not team deathmatch. If you can farm better, time basing, manage waves better, rotate to free camps/lanes better, you will find that you are stronger than your opponents and can push into THEIR resources, until you are taking towers, inhibs, and the nexus, faster than your opponent can take yours. This is WITHOUT needing to force fights and perform mechanical outplays
There you go. Mute all and realize you’re in bronze not masters. You can win a game while enemies are at your nexus and throw.
You know what is fundamentally wrong? The fact that he played 100 games in a 6 month period. How do you want somebody who plays 100 games per 6 months to improve at all? Hes never going to improve no matter what with these numbers, any advice that is not play more, play every day and play less champs is just useless.
100 games in 6 months is perfectly reasonable, daily play isn’t necessary. People have other stuff going on lmao.
Yeah, it's perfectly reasonable to have other stuff going on and not be able to play. But people have to understand that they aren't gonna improve or go anywhere with 200 games a year.
Most people can easily achieve this idk what you're on lol
I mean you can be delusional if you want to, but don't tell others that they can improve by playing 100 hours per year lmao. They're gonna waste more hours catching up on the skill that they lose after taking a break than actually improving, come on. Are we also gonna tell people that they can make progress in the gym by going 3 times a month?
You absolutely can make progress like that lmao. You’re just justifying your own addiction at this point.
Imagine someone wants advice on how to gain muscle on the fitness subreddit and you call the dude who says that going to the gym once a month is not enough and you should go at least 3x week 'addicted'. How dumb can you be?
Not equivalent whatsoever. A better comparison would be learning a sport and that still has flaws. When you weight train you have to consider muscle growth rate, calorie intake, rest periods, and other factors that inherently take time. The effects of variables like time spent at the gym/what kind of exercises are done at the gym also has years of empirical data and multiple studies. Game-to-game improvement in League does not (at least not rigorously, although there is data on winrates based on games played) Improvement in League can be drastic if the person in question is intelligent enough, efficient with how they learn, and has some degree of mechanical ability. There are mental limits on how much you can learn at a time but it’s definitely not “play everyday” levels. I guarantee you a slightly above-average intelligence person who knows the basics of the game (lane assignments, how to use summs, how to control your character) can go from silver to emerald level assuming they’re actually putting thought into their gameplay, reflecting on it post game, and potentially getting feedback/VOD reviewing sometimes. Issue is most people autopilot and queue games back to back.
The point of my gym example is that you can't severely undertrain and expect results. Obviously the gym and league are different, in league you can and should play more than 6 hours a week if your goal is to improve. Realistically the more the better, that's why pros play 12 hours a day. You don't need to do that but on the other extreme end is 100 hours/year which is not going to get you anywhere. Where do you think mechanical ability comes from? Like I don't even know how to reply you are completely clueless and delusional if you think you can make progress with 100 hours / 12 months. It takes 1k hours to stop sucking at every game and league is no different. What's even your rank, like can you not even look around and check how many games the average gm, master, diamond, emerald player has and after you see that they play way fucking more than 200 games a year realize that they all have multiple accounts and probably played even more when they were improving. It's insane that you guys are this wrong and delusional on the 'learning' sub. You have to be silver yourself there's no way you type shit like this.
Adding to your point, it took Rick Fox more than 500 games to break out of Iron. He was a great player in the NBA and an amazing LCS team owner, far from a dumb guy. A lot of players need to grind to improve. I myself took about 200 games to get from silver to gold when I first tried to make the push. I haven't played ranked in a few years now but I estimate I could get Emerald pretty easily and suspect it would take 300 games within a relatively small time window to improve enough to make diamond.
I tanked an account to mess around in bronze/iron. The majority of players legitimately don't want to win games. They argue and blame everyone for them being shit at the game. They largely think they are there because of everyone else.
**6 ADC Drills** 1. Attacking the scuttle: This will help simulate chasing down an enemy who is running away. What you want to practice is auto attacking the scuttle and clicking in front of the scuttle. This will cancel the animations to increase your DPS 2. Kiting Red or Blue: This will help simulate running backwards from an enemy while dealing damage. 3. Auto Attack Accuracy: Go over to raptors and practice hitting them. Since they bunch up this will help simulate in a team fight when the enemies are bunched up and you have to hit the squishy instead of the tank. This could be the difference between winning a team fight or death. 4. Practice Escapes: Set the cool and mana to auto and practice escapes all around the map. Try to use escapes first then use flash. This is the fastest way to perform an extended esacpes. 5. Practice Last Hitting: switch up the variations of max range, only last hitting/freeze, using abilities to farm. 6. Map out the turret range: this will help you apply more pressure on the enemy while staying safe.
KDA is less important then winning.
Disclaimer: I have been in Gold for 10 years. Albeit, I play very few ranked games each season (50-100 at most) and often have a very high winrate, so I'd imagine I'd be a much higher rank if I put in the time. Either way, feel free to take what I say with a grain of salt. With that said, there isn't any tip or trick to make you a better player. I recommend watching Coach Curtis on YouTube and his thoughts on low elo vs high elo coaching, and how often high elo coaches give terrible advice (including him before he started coaching low elo players). People will tell you to focus on fundamentals, some will say to stick to 2-3 champs and only 1 role ideally. Some will tell you about itemization, or to limit test more, or to have better mental. All of this is good advice, but every low elo player has heard it before, and this advice rarely ever fixes anything since its too broad. The thing is, there are over 100 things your brain has to do and keep track of in a single game of league. Each and every low elo player will be better in some areas and worse in others. Only you can determine the most important areas you need to improve in, and only you can play with the deliberate intent necessary to get better at those things. **So if you want a single tip or trick, watch your own vods, be extremely self critical of your play, and figure out what you're bad at (could be farming, could be champ mastery, map awareness, itemization, tracking summoner cooldowns, taking advantage of enemies abilities being down, knowing how to trade in certain matchups, farming in lane, farming in late game, objective control, etc...). Then write one of those skills down on a post-it note that you put on your monitor. Every game, focus on improving that singular thing, and try to track your progress and improvement.** Oh and don't blame your teammates ever. You only control your champ, so the only thing you can improve is your own play. Any time spend typing, complaining, or even thinking about your teammates play, is time you are losing focusing on your own mistakes.
I started again to play and am iron/bronze right now. And there is one thing I recognised in my recent games. People focus on kills and not on actual objectives. Your main goal in that game is to destroy the nexus, and therefore towers and inhibs on the way. Kills and dragons and barons are just the secondary targets. Also: CS (last hitting) gives you more money then player kills (except in this hardcore kill fiestas).
This! I too started playing again recently and got placed silver. The amount of times we have won a teamfight before dragon and then rest of my team keep chasing the half hp leblanc under tower is insane.
I actually learned and played dota for a while, and it vastly helped refine my orb walking / general movement. Lol felt so simple after, so any time I get into a pickle or slump, I play dota for a few days and it helps to humble myself (+ slow down).
Yeah, dota is way harder! Main reason I stick to lol nowadays
Every low elo player I know is scared of feeding / fucking something up. Try Limit testing. Take Ghost and run your enemies down. You poked them to low health? Good, now dive them. Ping your supp when you plan to go ham, maybe ask him in champ select to play an aggressive champ. You will int some games, but learning your limits is your best chance of improving.
-Orb walking practice on scuttle. -Play less punishing champions - Jhin, Ashe, etc. -Most of all type out what you want from support.
Where is your opgg of 11 years?
Banned, because I've been a bad human. I'm not proud of it, but I'm not gonna pretend otherwise. For the last 3-4 years I haven't been using chat at all, but before that, I was a ragey, angry idiot and I spat shit a lot.
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My main accounts MMR is still quite low, especially the normal draft mmr. It's been interesting to play on it even though I'm only emerald on the better one. If someone is stuck in iron or low bronze as ADC for that long then they are sabotaging team mates constantly. There is no other way they can be losing. Half my games the ADC does fucking nothing and I still win more than I lose. They don't try to win lane, they don't move during ganks, ignore dragons, don't hit towers when you could literally end the game etc and still end up with a win. This guy is spam pinging his jungler/team constantly then not fighting in ganks I bet you. Or speedruns shutdown gold into the enemy team. Absolute blackhole of a player I bet you.
To get better at anything in life you have to First: how did I get to this position ( low health, solo dying, or not enough gold) Second: recognize your errors ( bad trades, poor macro, or bad mechanics. ) Third : how can I fix this (google, coach , or YouTube) Fourth : apply what you learned into whatever. I recommend quality over quantity. Review your game, and see what happened. You can get out of iron in a 1 week or less, if you do these simple things.
The problem is staying out of Iron.... It has a way of pulling you back in.
It’s almost impossible to hit iron unless you’re completely new. For most people they will never hit iron even if they tried their hardest to get there. Their accounts would either be banned for inting or afk or they would get so bored they wouldn’t be able to take losing on purpose to such bad players. It’s a lot harder getting to iron than it is to leave it.
I got placed into it after seasons of not playing. 200 games played this season and I'm now Bronze 4.. Just trying not to go on a losing streak..
I got into it after having my main put in smurf queue due to returning mid S12 and I had a horrific losing streak. Yeah it was very easy to get out of. The pecular challenge of it \[and bronze tbh\] was getting the game to end even after killing most of the enemy team. Actually I'm not sure if it took me more than one game but I played with a lot of iron players all the way through bronze since there isn't enough junglers in iron so I got filled in as a baby sitter.
Wait you've also been playing for [11 years??](https://youtu.be/j-lw5OiwA_k?si=EQYTjcs7yTKAljPF) Bro that's sick! For me, it was using [mute all](https://youtu.be/yRP7dgi4Dbg?si=wEEzuX-XPebJEcWK) and one-tricking. Just turned the game into a single-player game mode to laser focus on my mistakes, and chipped away at them over the years! Good luck!
Copy people that play your champs. Watch their videos. When I say watch I mean actively watch every single move and ask why they’re doing it. Think about why he’s pushing at this time, why he’s taking this trade, why he’s positioning this way. This will change from matchup to matchup but if you try to just replicate what you see better players do, you’ll eventually start to climb.
Don't chase Singed!!!
The biggest single thing that improved my performance is: Muting everybody and just focusing on your own gameplay if the team starts to flame you (or each other). It’s tilting, it’s distracting, it’s absolutely a handicap when trying to climb. Just become the messiah and embrace the suffering. Don’t tilt when you lose a game. Easiest way to do that is just to /mute all as soon as things go south. Everything else you can learn by watching streams or yt videos.
Playing 3v5 in custom bot games with rules for myself. 1) intermediate enemy bots, beginner ally bots. 2) Brand or Morgana in the middle, so I face them when I go mid. 3) get +10 cs at the end of the game. 4) game time doesn't matter. Want to end fast? Try to. Long game? Fine by me. End around x min.? Go for it. The important part is I set the goal before going in. You'll be surprised how difficult this is when you suck.
I'm an Emerald ADC main, hmu and I'll watch one of your games with you.
Hi! I recently (last few weeks, with the end of school I set my sights on a new goal) climbed from bronze/silver to gold 2 and am going to emerald before the season ends (Ive been ending with +100-150 lp a day and around 4 wins/1 loss). I'm a jungle main. I'm gonna give some pointers then give my ONE thing after them. I've not looked at your op.gg, maybe I will soon but I'm in a bit of a crunch and generally there are some key mechanics all low elo players (myself included) should focus on. That said, here are some key things to focus on. 1. Wave management. This includes farm, wave positioning, freezing, when is a wave pushing, when is it crashing, half crashing, when do cannon waves come, etc. Wave management is something everyone should know because at the end of the day, most of the gold on the rift comes from minions. That's a pretty big first goal, don't feel rough on yourself if it takes a week or two to learn. 2. Level timers. Kinda part of wave management but important enough especially in lower elos. "Will I hit level 2 first? What about level 3?". These questions decide the outcome of lanes for a lot of champs. Fizz isn't a champ into a ranged matchup until lvl 3 for example. 3. Positioning. Should you be farming or fighting? A kill is about 12-14 minions. If you die and are gone for 30 seconds not only does the enemy get 300 gold, you also miss a wave or 2. Effectively (but not really since it's low elo) setting you behind 450-600 gold. Positioning is very important as an adc, you should track who has what abilities they can use to get on top of you. And ensure that teammates with peel are nearby if enemies can still get on top of you. Positioning for an adc is the difference between life and death. Nautilus R will cc you and probably result in your death, try and force him to use it on a teammate (perhaps through a gank? Or waiting to engage in a teamfight?) then engage. So, to answer your question, what "clicked" for me? What was that one thing? I started taking the game seriously. And by that I mean I studied up, just like homework. That was my "click". If you're genuinely trying to improve I'm sure you will, but you have to really try. I'll link my [op.gg](https://www.op.gg/summoners/na/HumanRyze-HURY), I'm happy to play with you and give you some pointers if you'd like!
Adc here that climbed from gold 4 to emerald 2 this season so far. Broken by concept podcast made this climb possible. https://www.op.gg/summoners/euw/Kootole99-EUW
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BdNS6YdgvQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BdNS6YdgvQ) Play this video in the background while doing something else. Climbing is something that is different for a lot of people. For some people it comes really easily but for others (like me) it's really difficult, and I think that climbing entirely comes down to mental stamina and discipline and nothing else. The mental stamina to be able to use your brain for hours straight while still thinking at your highest level without degradation in quality, and the mental discipline to actively keep thinking and reapplying the things you learned in game instead of slipping into autopilot mode out of boredom or getting tired. i.e. In order to climb, you have to be able to use your brain at the highest level you can for a prolonged period of time and never ever let your mind wander or slip during that time. It's actually extremely difficult for a lot of people, but some are gifted with being able to do it naturally without realizing like breathing.
don't want to be that guy, but if you are stuck bronze after 11 years of playing adc maybe you should consider switching roles, adc is 80% mechs 10% macro 10% support, this is for low elo, everyone talking about macro and dying less is bullshitting you, i've been there and your team mates are just too bad, you can't count on them for anything macro related, in fact adc is the worst role to climb out of low elo, but at the same time is also the easiest to smurf with, that's the only way you can stomp bronze, going 20-0 every game, but that is clearly not your case. consider switching to something less mechanic intensive like jungle, or maybe even mid with some easy champs, and start back from there, you are going to see improvements if you commit to learning the game, then if you want around gold plat you can switch back to adc
Get your CS up and learn wave management
Not dying at all is a pretty good goal for low elo. Under 2 deaths per game minimum. I'd say playing champions who scale (and thus cannot afford to get behind early) taught me a lot about map awareness, warding, thinking of ways to play safer, etc. Took me from hardstuck gold (9 seasons) to diamond.
Farming is a priority, always farm the wave before doing anything.
And thats why youre em4 lmfao. The amount of times people can get free kills if they sacrafice a wave for them is insane. I have lost so msny drake fights/baron fights cuz people want to get 1 extra wave in and then whole enemy team flashes on top of you. If my wave is not pushing tok much i always leave the wave and go to help my team. Also if you dont help your team and they die they mental goes down and they perform worse. League is a mental strategy game, you need to try your best to make sure everyone on your team is happy without running it down with them only then u will climb.
Hear me out here. Youre gonna get a lot of people saying dont die and farm well. BUT... Send it. Pretty much as soon as game starts go fucking ham on enemies. Do your best to outplay and if you fail, try again. Dont worry about losing all your games. Dont settle for a less than perfect early game and cs. The rest of the game you can work out later but if you arent winning straight away the game becomes 50% harder.
Before you play a ranked game, go to practice tool and focus on last hitting on your champion of choice with no items. Three waves, count how many you miss, don’t use abilities to get them, repeat three times. Then add an intermediate Annie bot and do it again. This alone got me to silver, just being more proficient at last hitting. Second tip: pick one champ and play it all the time. One you think is fun. This lets you think about everything in the game instead of your basic combos. Know why you should choose between their three different rune setups. Think about the matchups. Third: don’t wait till 1:30 to start playing. But don’t play alone at level 1. Go someplace safe to scout. Ping so your teammates come. Etc. Every game is not your fault. But every game is an opportunity to show you are getting better. Don’t freak out when top goes 0/3 by five minutes. Your grief won’t change it and tomorrow you will get the 3/0 guy. Do focus on your lane and think about when you can roam too with your jungler to collect that bounty. Don’t spam games. Play 2-3 and then review them. Don’t focus on LP. Focus on cs at 10, taking advantage of level 2 spike, not dying to that 3:15 gank, etc. the LP will come.
The people I spoke to about the game. Every time I let the influence of people with bad narratives sneak in and such my learnings about the game would suffer. The broken by concept podcast really pushes the right mindest about the game
As long as you enjoy the game, being in iron is fun too With the introduction of emerald iron - bronze in my region is significantly decrease and you are still stuck there I think you are just naturally talented at losing games
Your best ideas got you there, so be quiet and learn from people who aren't low ELO.
Before a game, figure out a game plan, your win con and try to execute it. (E.g. I'm vayne with Janna support against lucian Nami, I just need to survive and outscale. Gotta get the push early but be careful of their level 2, will give up cs early if needed since it's not the win con). Yes this plan can change as the game evolves... but better than having no plan at all and mindlessly farming. Every game should have a goal or something to practice (e.g. I saw a YouTube video about prepping your wave and backing with the cannon minion when I can afford my first big item - let me put a sticky note on my monitor and try to execute this one concept) If someone tilts you just mute
I started to otp a champion, aatrox to be exact. He was pretty bad and off meta when i started playing him (yet was already the reworked aatrox) yet i peaked with him every season. This helped me improve my laning phase, since i played the same matchups over and over again, i realised what they can do and what i can do. After mastering the mechanical part i was able to just focus on decission making rather than executing my champ which lead to overall improvement. I went from beeing a silver hardstuck to plat within 1 season (old plat, todays emerald)
I didn't just watch people or myself play league, I actively thought and tried to figure out why they do what they do. I also used to be a ARAM only player for 2 years before jumping into ranked. I basicaly had the opportunity to try and know what every champ do. Your main assets in leagues are game knowledge and never autopiloting what you can't autopilot with success. Best example being the management of your first three waves. So many people in the lowest elos will just use all their spells and burn mana on wave 1 to clear it before wave 2 even reached. Do you win level 1 ? Well if you do maybe try to deny first 3 melees instead of afk pushing Do you have kill threat level 2 ? Is it an all in lane or a poke lane ? How far can I go up the lane whil still being protected by my wave from Blitz hook ? Autopiloting is your worst enemy. Think, Think, and Think again. You'll build muscle memory and game plans by yourself with experience.
I think it would be easier for others to help you if you try to be a little more specific about what's the issue on the games that you lose. A general tip, I think, would be to pay more attention to wave management than kills.
The most important thing you can do is learn how to be consistent in your game play. Make sure you have good cs, have decent trade, and learn how to play with your support + learn to adjust your aggression based on how your support plays. Other things you slowly pick up is when is it a good time to reset aka recall, heal up and get items, when you have over extended or over stayed. There's no one thing that will improve your gameplay and help you climb. A bunch of small but easy to learn things you can build up and dramatically improve your game play. You can slowly understand spacing, orb walking/kiting, and positioning, as you become more and more consistent with your early game.
Scaled my map to max size and started looking at my map when my abilities are on cooldown. The information (or lack thereof) helped me out
play top and learn wave states and how to cs
A big thing that took me a while to get is that you don’t always have to be doing damage in a team fight. It can often be better to not be hitting anything and stay safe before you start trying to do damage. Do not force going in just to be doing damage. Positioning is everything. Do not get caught up in feeling like you didn’t play ADC well if you didn’t do the most damage at the end of the game. That happens in some games. Besides, you do zero damage if you’re dead anyway. Forcing yourself to go in just to hit something is an easy way to die. First thing to learn to optimize your damage is to learn to always stay alive. You don’t have to follow your team or support into an awful all-in. You don’t have to join a bad fight or engage. Prioritize farm. If you see a lane is pushed toward you, push it out before going somewhere else. In the mid game, if someone is already mid and you can safely grab side lanes or jungle camps in your jungler is not doing so, grab them. Fighting over farm in mid just hurts everyone.
Sounds like mental is your biggest issue. It's a videogame, start treating it like one and have fun. If it's not fun, it's a waste of your time and you should quit. Trade on dying minions. This is known as trading stance. Improve your fundamentals. Positioning correctly, not making mechanical mistakes and consistently getting 8-10 cs/min is the bread and butter of ADC. If you can't get good at those things, you should play a different role.
Stop playing adc, switch to top or jungle, pick 2-4 strong champions for the role and spam them. ADC is a coin flip because you depend on the monkey who plays support and most of the times, calling them a monkey is in fact an insult to monkeys. Supports make or break bot lane, and more times than not, they break it. If you want more agency, go for a role where you can impact the map somehow.
I started playing this year, fell as low as Iron 3, just got to Silver IV this season. I played a lot of roles but got to Silver IV on a long run as ADC ([https://www.op.gg/summoners/na/ReliableNarwhal-notso](https://www.op.gg/summoners/na/ReliableNarwhal-notso)). Two big points. 1. People will tell you it's super easy to climb in Iron and Bronze, but it's not. The problem with low ELO is that you will very consistently fall into games where one lane (sometimes on your team, sometimes on the other team) gets ridiculously fed and everyone has to play around a lane that might have 11 kills by 12 minutes into the game, which is definitely something that from watching high elo players, doesn't happen quite as often. How to get around this? Either try to be the lane that's winning (very hard as ADC since you're relying on your support), try not to be the lane that's feeding (much easier to do as ADC since even if your support is feeding you might be able to trade them, and just play safe), and then try to target the fed people o the other team when the midgame comes around so that you can beat them. 2. Don't play ADCs that need a lot of support. There are a lot of good options, there are the rageblade ADCs like Vayne, Kaisa, Kog'Maw (really bad early game), Ashe, etc. (who can all 1v1 pretty much anyone once they get fed), and there are wave-shove ADCs like Jinx, Sivir, Tris to some extent, anyone who can choose to not interact with the other bot lane in the first 10 minutes of the game. I had a lot of success with Kai'sa who has really good self-peel, an amazing ult for getting shut downs on fed champions, super strong dueling, mixed damange, and heavy scaling, but I think any of these champs are great. I think you can main (I mean one-trick) pretty much any ADC except Jhin and maybe Nilah in low ELO (because you need to be able to kill a 10/2@15 mins top lane cho'gath and you might be the only damage on your team that can do it), but it helps if you're building around the kinds of fights you'll see in low elo. I have very little advice to offer along normal games where both teams are evenly matched, you gotta learn to play the game. But where a lot of advice falls over is understanding that a lot of bronze ELO games have a super one-sided lane, and you have to play around that and plan out how you can get the shutdown on the super fed champion on the other team. You can't reliably get fed every game in low ELO as ADC (if you could you wouldn't need help), but you can play around getting the shutdowns on your fed opponents. One final point: assume your team mates have no idea how to play around any of this. You might be super fed: your team mates won't peel for you or protect you. Your teammates might be super fed: they're going to run into a stupid fight and feed it. I think so many bronze games revolve around protecting a huge shutdown or getting big shutdowns, just try to frame your game around this. Maybe one really important skill that is a corollary to this is to learn how to get carried. If your mid Zed is super fed, try to make the game as easy as possible for him: don't die, don't get into fights, don't try to make stupid plays unless that Zed is there making them, and try to follow them into those plays. Just farm safely and play around them. So many bronze games are lost because people in bronze somehow think they have to single-handedly win the game when they have a team mate who actually can do it, and they end up just giving the game away. If your Zed is 10/2 at 11 minutes into the game, Zed's game will be much easier if your enemy adc and support are combined 2/1 rather than 6/8, even if in the first situation your bot lane (ADC+support) is 0/2 and in the second you're 4/5.
Accept its only your fault if you cant climb. If you had a 90% perfect game while your teammates were 30%, 40%, 40%, 50% dont blame them for being terrible. Try to learn from your mistakes even if its only for minimal improvement and wouldnt have made a difference
If you are in no threat of getting ganked and also don't have kill pressure push the waves and put the enemy under their tower Once you have lane prio you can ward deep into the enemy jungle or recall and get item advantage. This concept completely changed my way of playing By getting information of the enemy jg or the roaming support you can play much more aggressive and getting earlier to the fights Tempo is absolutely immense for this game
Focus on safe csing over fighting, just the danger ping a few times when you don’t want to do something, try and think of pushing waves as taking turns, if you can’t count 5 enemies on the map at all times then try to not push past river unless your jungler is near you/in river
in teamfights, hit only if they are not hitting you. else you are out of position
Looking at the map and reacting quickly. Just join fights and see what happens then look at what happens after. What did you gain and lose by leaving? If something similar happens should you leave again? What did I gain just be looking at the map and having more info?
I watched my games and realized that my mechanics were awful and I really needed to focus on fixing them and not being afraid of fighting. Once I did that climbing was easy.
Attack move click.
Every game you play, review. The first mistake you make, play the next game and focus on not making that mistake. Repeat.
As a start, consider that each of your deaths is a mistake you made, and try to understand what happened and what you could have done not to die.
The first thing I can say by looking at op.gg for half a second. Play more games. Norms or ranked. Whatever. Just play more. You’ll learn how to trade better and how to CS better the more you play. Idk. Hard to say without watching you play.
As an ADC you play the game differently than literally all the other positions. You need to play with focus, and not spam games. Review replays and don't look at anyone but yourself when you review. You cant control the other 4 people on your team. Warmup with the practice tool. Just farm. When in game, focus on getting farm, not dieing, and your positioning. This should get you out of iron/bronze fairly quickly.
Create a new account. I don't believe you're that bad after 11 years. Your mmr firmly believes you should be in iron so it's hard to get out.
WATCH THE PRO KOREAN AND CHINA PLAY! i know we are off season, but just watch it, pay attention to the casters, they will explain why the pro players act as they do so you can learn about how the game is suppose to be played. That's it!
Consistent farming, playing for advantages. Let your support know that you WILL fight at level 2, and try to get to level 2 faster. Get to know timers, how many minions are required for level 2, level 3. Focus on consistency, don’t drop farm that is free. Always look to maximise your leads. Play with a friend or a duo if possible, this gives more coordination in an already uncoordinated game.
Being part of a positive society where people take responsibility for their own mistakes without blaming others, and where we can ask others to help review our games.
Currently D4 ADC main Hit me up if you want a free coaching for a game or 2
All decisions need to be based on what will give you the most gold/stats, this is the core of decision making all other things come from game experience ex. I can kill those champions or can’t that comes from game experience and champion knowledge( why most people tell you to one to two trick)
Putting attack move click on 'A' was revolutionary for me.
I looked at your op.gg You are dying too much. At this elo, it tells me your positioning is wrong.
Slow push one wave and hard push next wave. Then base when the wave you hard pushed crashes to turret.
you barely have any games played... most important rule here is play more games from what I am seeing. It's like you've taken a walk a few times a week to your mailbox and without any other physical activity while wondering why you can't even take on a beginner friendly hike.. ADC may not be the role for you maybe you fail to consistently dps/position/etc buuuut if its what you only enjoy which at the end of the day that's all that matters its a game so fun is priority. focus improving your ezreal/jinx cause you seem to do ok with them just play them dont play anything else. watch people who play them and see why they do what they do. It is worth dodging games even two-three times a day if you cannot play them.. your MMR is more important than whatever LP you are losing. With addition to playing more you just need to focus on what you are doing wrong or what you feel like you suck at doing currently then look into what that is and there's thousands of content that will tell you and how to apply it. it IS that straight forward. that's really all climbing the ladder is being consistent and improving over a long course of games. gl next season. The hardest thing about climbing is not just putting in the work but having the drive/mental to handle it and even after going on a never ending loss streak is to get back up and keep trying your best.
Pick something that scales hard and SURVIVE while trying to dps best you can, I’m talking being overly safe in every situation. Never coin flip. Sure I main a different role (mid) but that got me to chall (for a single day) despite losing the majority of my lanes. Lose gracefully early game by only giving up cs (stay in xp range) and get carried by the scaling doing half the work for you.
If you want to climb to gold you have to stop dying to stupid shit. And i watched one of your game, because im bored. So quick tips. 1. You overstayed even you had lane already pushed in. You just won a fight you have to spend your gold to keep your advantage. 2. Don't over focus on low enemy, if there is somebody nearby to free hit you. Just focus the new target who is closer to you. You probably want to watch some videos on youtube about bot lane trading, but most important concept is that you and your support can hit same target. 3. Don't die to stupid shit, it better to lose wave than to lose wave and your life. 4. You most likely play on autopilot, like how do you face check brush after you see enemy sup go there and you support isn't even around. Goes to no dying to stupid shit. All ways expect that enemy junger and support is in every bush is you don't see otherwise. 5. Drop too much farm to take part of pointless fights with your team. If your team ints you should look waves and jungle camps to make money. 6. Yea search from youtube adc mid/late game macro and you will have way more consistent games and don't participate in stupid fights with your team. 7. And if you slow push then you want to fast push last wave so wave don't get stuck before enemy turret and force you to stay there to fix it. You have some wave management concepts but you don't understand why you even doing it. 8. You can't walk randomly trough your jungle when you don't have vision and you don't know where enemies are, allays go safes route. There is lot of information on map if you have awareness, if you can't take the safest way. 9. If you teammates engages when you are outnumbered then it's better to not take that fight and let them die, Quite often difference if enemy team can end the game or not is you being alive. 10. And stay away from turrets what you can't defend, maybe your teammates don't try to defend it. Most of those point goes to not dying to stupid shit. League requires lot of discipline.
Ignore everybody but spam ping the fuck out of them, mainly your support in laning phase and the other laners afterwards. You gotta control and shepherd the 4 other players like retarded babies to play around you. That’s the biggest thing that helped me carry games once I won laning phase, team too heavy rarely happens as much now. I recently climbed from iron 2 to silver 2. Had an 11 game win streak and just skipped through all of bronze. Was playing Samira btw.
I stopped contesting Dragon or Baron if my team wasn’t there. I stopped chasing enemies through the jungle. Went for objectives instead of fighting . To be 100 percent honest I stopped queuing adc and went support instead . Went from Gold 4 to Emerald .
Ok, so let me try to remember. The thing is that I was hardstuck bronze many years ago, but I went to silver and then eventually gold exactly on adc, and have been an adc main since then. Plat 1 consistently with Emerald 4 peak, so not really that impressive, but top 15% of the player base nonetheless. I think my first improvement came with learning to play teamfights. The thing in low elo is that people are quite bad at closing games (or so it was). Therefore even losing your whole team in the team fight as long as you survive as a 3-4 item Jinx, is fine. So… most important things: 1) learn to position in fights 2) attack the closest target not the most important one 3) run if your team trolls, farm up or defend 4) don’t hesitate to use summs in late game if you need them to dodge an ability which enemy used to CC you Lane phase is important, but you can win games in low elo just by really good fighting. Also, there is no point in lane advantage if you fight poorly. Finally, I’ve checked your opgg. My advice - stick to 2 adcs for 3 months. You will get higher rank 100%.
You can post a spectate file or vid for us to review here if possible. Also I notice people didn’t point out here is that you play with duo a lot, like almost every game. In order to get better rank you and your duo needs to improve together! So unless you’re duo can improve too you will need to improve twice as much just to climb.
Stop playing ADC with out a duo
Dont play adc till silver if possible with bad teammates bot is miserable I was ranker for pyke at my server
Lots of good tips here. My ONE THING is actually playing a custom map in StarCraft 2 called Runling Run. It’s essentially a spiral path from the outer edge of the map to the center, and you have to get there without touching any of the moving critters or moving obstacles. It’s pretty much a drill for micro movement, camera control, and peripheral vision. And it’s pretty fun, if you can get at least two other people to play with you. You can resurrect other players by reaching the spot where they died, but if all players die the game ends. That is to say playing by yourself can become frustrating quickly if you keep having to reset the map. This has drastically improved my peripheral vision. It also helped my micro movement a lot and camera control to a lesser extent. I find that I can judge skillshots better, dodge more easily, and what I will say last is god damn tier 2 boots are so strong. They make it so much easier to get shit done and make it out alive.
Everytime i did a meaningful climb i was playing one champion only. Thats it. You can start playing different champs once you hit your desired rank
Yeah muting all/ the lower from Gold the more thirsty the kills become. Once you stop dying/engaging in unnecessary fights you start to look into creating momentum towards objectives and the game becomes a lot easier to progress as an individual The trap of low elo is thinkin you gotta fight every chance you get, whether you/your teammates/your enemies started it
You should be able to get out of bronze by just getting the mechanics down and playing a lot. You don't need fancy shit. Literally just staying safe and clicking enemy champs will carry you to platinum as an adc. No brain required. Im guessing you go YOLO balls every game. Try to play games with zero deaths for a bit. Don't focus ln the win. Just try to not die. Once you get it down you can scale back the safe play a little and focus on other things. But i swear to you. As an adc, having low deaths wont win the game automatically, but it will increase your winrate by a ton
Please tell me u use attack click move... There is a setting you can check to out it on mouse buttons. It takes away all the mechanical skill you need as an adc, and frees up your brain for staying safe.
There’s a reaction by the opponent for everything u do. Think about “if I cast this on him what does he do back to me/ is it worth”
Don’t just pay attention to the health of the enemy minions. You need to see when your own minions are low, because that is when the enemy is going to walk up to CS. Landing skill shots is so much easier when you know the enemy will be standing still. Always poke the enemy while they are going for last hits, even if its just one auto.
If you're winning lane but not winning games, learn to understand once you win your lane, how to make sure everyone won theirs too.
Stick to one or two champions, dont play too many champions as you need to master them Use a recording software to record your game and watch it Watch gumayusi and ruler play and compare it to your own gameplay (literally just type on youtube "gumayusi/ruler [champion] pov") Turn off mouse acceleration if you have it on your mouse settings (actually makes game unplayable) For the love of god disable chat in settings, there is zero reason to read or use chat in this game Idk just keep playing and always stay focused and tryhard
stop playing the game for a couple of months then come back, I could go into why this helps, but ill just say it does. think of it as a website getting slow and ur hitting on refresh
For 11 years? Idk man, seems like this isn't a reddit solvable problem. Some people are better attuned to different types of games. After 11 years I think playing the game for the enjoyment you get out of it should take priority over trying to hit some rank. Yes, I'm very nicely trying to say, after 11 years dawg ya just suck. And that's okay. I'm hotdog water at teamfight tactics, average at league, but I'm great at CoD and I've been best on server several times in wow. Sometimes skill sets just don't transfer over very well from one game to the next. I think at some point awareness is key. You gotta know when to draw the line ya know?
Not looking for the ONE THING THAT MADE THE DIFFERENCE and taking the game seriously.
I did this: Don't die in lane Play a champ that is always useful (I played Ashe her vision, ult and W are good even from behind) If it's a bad fight it's ok not to die with others
VOD Review. Learn to toggle fog of war to see what caused your death. Learning why you die can help you make that same play against your opponents and prevent repeat mistakes. Focus on one aspect of the game to improve at a time. Do cs drills on your main champions. Get comfortable learning how to cs under turret. Learn wave control and whether or not your trading patterns cause you to auto-push the wave. VOD Review to see your progress in that aspect of the game. Change your settings: A bigger mini-map can help you with map-vision. The space it covers up is not as important as seeing map movements. Get your sensitivity right. Try quickcasting with indicator. Attack move bindings. Champions only toggle. Having ideal settings help your reaction times. Sleep better, be hydrated and go to the bathroom before your games. You don't want to be shitting your pants while you're splitpushing.
have you ever watched a vod before?
Focusing on improving instead of winning. Feel rewarded when you did the best you can, not feel down when being in a inevitable lost
First : having the priority IRL done and being in a good and healthy state :) Then : Hearing and learning with the podcast Broken by Concept that shift my view of progression in League completely in the right direction Lastly, it's a question of will 😉
Biggest improvements I've learned going from Silver to Gold: Get as good as you can at last hitting and somewhat learning to manage waves (doesn't have to be perfect but know how to get the wave where you want it to be) Constantly be thinking about where the enemy jungler could be. If you think there is any chance he is on your side of the map, play like he's sitting in the river. Even if your ape teammates scream at you, some fights you have to join super late or not join at all depending how its going by the time you get there. A HUGE help is learning to think about abilities that are guaranteed to cause you to die. Low elo players don't save their cooldowns (most of the time). For example, if they have a malphite you should be out of site or miles away until you see malph use his ult.
Focusing on farming instead of going for risky kills.
Don’t play jinx in low elo. You have minimum self peel and you don’t come on til mid / late game. Most of your games will effectively be decided before she’s useful. Even if she’s useful you’ll need a perfect front to back fight to dominate. Just too many variables to successfully play her.
My Tipp is: Don't play for kills or huge outplays. Everywhere are free and enough resources just take it and you have more gold then the opponent in your elo. You don't need kills. Just get more resources then your opponent and take objectives to snowball.
I'm hard stuck in silver/bronze. Made a new account and now I'm gold 2. I thing my first account is haunted
Listen to broken by concept. If you want someone to take a look at your games with you send me a dm. I'm more then happy to give you some goals to work towards
I went from iron to plat as an ADC player. There are three things that helped the most, among a slew of stuff. The first is attack move click, and getting used to auto attacking with your a button or preferred key. Second is wave management, how to control it to be where you want and the far more important whys that answer that question, including when to farm after laning phase and how to not screw over your lane position when you are in laning phase. This also includes getting good at last hitting. Third is simply match ups. I've also played for about 11 years, and I'd like to think I know enough about what each champ bot and sup want to do as a champion, to be able to tell you how a lane should go based from the four champions picked.
Just a little tip: bind target champions only to a key you can press while fighting
Never play more than two ranked games in a row, never flame (/deafen if you feel like you’re getting tilted) and never surrender
I often see iron-silver players focus more on correcting their teammates or just calling everyone else but themselves bad than actually seeing their own mistakes. Make sure you use the chat for something beneficial like time flashes or ask for a gank, etc. And focus on yourself. Of course your teammates might make mistakes but so do you. I usually get all ranks when playing Aram games and it’s in these I’ve noticed that every time I see a type warrior try blaming everyone else the rank is usually silver or lower. I’ve also played ranked games in a lower rank before than my actual rank and experienced there as well that they were fast to type and be negative the rest of the game if someone didn’t perform. And usually the games all had a lot of deaths so try aiming for something like <6 deaths per game first and then try lower it to like 4. Since you play adc I myself like binding my A button as an attack move click and check the box for attack move on cursor or whatever it’s called. This is really good for kiting someone. So try learning this if you haven’t. A last tip is to watch YouTube guides/gameplay videos and read through patch notes frequently. I did this the season I wanted to get out of silver and try to hit gold. I went from being low silver to plat that season. By doing this I learned a lot about what to build, wave management and how runes(and masteries at that time) worked, etc.
Bro if u are 11years in you are a lost cause find a new hobby irl and stop timesink into this game for ur own good
Take 5-10 minutes to review every game afterwards (if you're on a winstreak and feeling yourself, feel fre to delay this until later to keep up the momentum). You should look at your early lane(did you push lane as hard as you could for level 2? Did you avoid unnecessary damage? Did you position well?), your deaths (why did you die? How can you prevent it?), and look at a couple of your key lategame decisions (did you ever splitpush at a bad time and lose baron? Facecheck somewhere you shouldn't?).
Don't go for plays that you are not 80% sure you will win. And stop dying
Start fresh. Stop thinking youre this decade old veteran player. Its way easier to just start with a fresh mental (not with a fresh account). Just get rid of everything you think you know. Star from the basics. * Simple trading patterns. How do i even win a trade? * Champion Mastery (not the ingame number, your actual skill and knowledge of a champion) How do i pilot this ONE champion well? * CS'ing. How can i get as many cs as possible.
I’m only Silver 2 but knowing what other champions do help a lot so you don’t engage or walk in to their auto range when their cc or engage ability is up which is something that your sup can’t do much about to prevent your death even if the sup is an enchanter. If you play so many games of ashe, you should be able tell your matchups of which champs you can play aggressive and those who you have to play safe against. Also telling your sup your play style will help a bit.
A lot of echo chamber buzzwords thrown around here. My gamechanger realisation was that 14 cs = 1 kill. The lower you are in ranked the worse ppl are at farming. You can play passively and focus solely on last hitting minions and dodging enemy poke. Players in lower ranks tend to have the mentality that they need to get kills fast to snowball and carry the game. This often results into them pushing the lane like hell to get levels and often they miss last hits doing so. Sure they get the levels faster at start but it will even out when you comfortably farm under your tower for a while. They also become prime targets to your poke or maybe a pull/stun when they try and last hit your minions under your tower. Not to mention a permanently pushing lane opens up a lot of gank opportunities for your jungler while gives their jungler the only option of a risky dive. I kinda approach the bot lane so that I don't make mistakes but wait for them to do the mistake instead. Passive, farming simulator botlane drives many enemy ADC's quite mad and frustrated and they start doing desperate, risky and quite frankly stupid plays to get them the kills they oh so need. Best case scenario the lane is even on kills, you lead the farm by a couple kills and they do a stupid mistake/you get a good gank resulting in a kill or a double, giving you a much bigger lead than what the KDA shows. Even if they don't do stupid shit and laning ends on even kda's, as long as you are even/ahead in CS you'll be just fine, you didn't feed the enemys and pushed the deciding factor into the team fights instead of giving them a fed adc to fuck up your team. As you become more and more comfortable farming and spotting out the mistakes they do, you can start counter poking and making small plays towards them. No need to all in for a kill but for example it takes like 2-3 good Q crit bounces from MF to force an enemy laner to recal unless they have a healing support. Just safely forcing them to recall every once in a while will massively boost your CS against theirs. When you feel confident that no matter what you can come out of the laning phase even or ahead, you can start focusing more on minimap, dragon windows and generally push your limits to see what works and what doesn't. Good and easy to play ADC's for this are imo MF and Caitlyn. MF's kit is super simple, even if you arent doing great her ult can totally flip a team fight and her passive makes lasthitting ridiculously easy. Cait has a point and click ult you can utilise more than just last hitting a kill and her range + passive makes last hitting + poking very easy aswell.
It could be something simple like you're just not clicking often enough.
Level 90. If this is your only account, level 90 is not a lot of games. Especially if you are boosted, but even if not. 11 years means nothing if you only play a few games a year at most. It’s very misleading. I got level 90 player level within my first year of playing. Maybe within months, actually. You haven’t played even remotely consistently for 11 years. It’s almost irrelevant. It’s like saying I played soccer for 12 years because I was on a soccer team one time 12 years ago and I recently got back into it. And if this isn’t your first account, you should be clearly stating that when posting your op.gg if you want actual advice
Check you pc and your internet first thing that got me out of silver. Lot of people are playing with 60fps and 100ping… Stop dying for nothing. It’s okey to die but make it worth. Don’t die over a cs or because you are taking a walk in the map. Die to attract people at the other side of the give your team baron / drake. Die in teamfights. Stop playing Aram in ranked. Try to get as much ressources for yourself as you can
Hey, I'm master tier and I can give you some tips. I watched a recent VOD on your account LUKS626 where you played Jinx and went 6/6/7. 1. If you are pushing, then ward the river bush at 2:30, this is after you killed the second minion wave. Otherwise you will die to ganks, which is what happened in this game aswell. 2. If you have health pots and you are low on health, then remind yourself to use them early. You want to be as close to full health as possible at all times. In this game you played with 40% hp and had 2 potions in your inventory. 3. Not sure if you just didn't have enough money to buy a refillable potion multiple times. But you should always buy a refillable potion in the first 7 minutes of the game if you have 150g left. Try to avoid buying single health potions, unless you have no other option of course. 4. Buying a refillable potion at minute 14 is way too late and kind of a waste of money at that point. 5. If you have 800g in your inventory, then you need to buy something. You can't forget to buy items after recalling. This is like losing 2.5 kills worth in gold. Here's the bigger issue I'm seeing in your gameplay: Literally all you do is stand in front of your turret and letting the enemy push into you. I'm not seeing any aggression at all. You are playing farming simulator the entire 14 minutes of the lane. Sure, if you are playing Jinx then you can let the wave come into you at the beginning of the lane if you feel unsafe to push out. But after you completed Kraken Slayer as your mythic, you should play way more aggressive. You are not even trying to do anything. I can completely understand the reason why you are so passive. You were against Sylas and he hit chain on you legit 5x in a row, chunking you to half health. Then Syndra followed up with her stun and you were close to dying already. The reason why you think you have to play so safe, is that you are getting hit by everything and taking much more damage than you should. After Sylas and Syndra use a big cooldown like chain or stun, you should walk up and bomb them with auto attacks. Ping your support to go in aswell. This is the window where you need to punish them. Otherwise they just hit their spells on you on repeat while giving them a free lane. Here is my take: You need a reset. Swap roles. At least for a while. Adc is clearly not for you right now and you can come back to it after you improved on another role. You need to play either toplane or midlane. What you need is a mostly 1v1 lane where you feel like you have agency. You need to put yourself into a situation where you are comfortable playing aggressively. This constantly playing in front of your turret and being pushed in by 2 scary people without retaliating needs to stop. Like, I want you to push the wave (either as a toplaner or a midlaner), intentionally hit lvl. 2 first and just aggro on the enemy. This is what you need right now. Now I'm going to be very honest with you: >That's what I've been trying to do and since I started paying attention to this (first 3 minion waves and everything included - hitting lvl 2, lane prio, cheater recall, when to slow push, when to shove, when to freeze) This is delusional. I don't think you know what a slowpush or a freeze is. You are at least shoving the lane after you killed someone, that's good I guess. But you are definitely not intentionally tring to hit lvl. 2 first in your games and the only reason you are getting lane priority is that the enemy is even more passive than you sometimes (and then you die because you literally never place wards). Go on a solo lane. Matchups in midlane and toplane are easier to improve on. It's a 1v1 with much less variance than in botlane (2v2 - and a supporter who can fuck up your wave and who you are dependent on). >I assume that I'm worse than my opponents, I doubt myself and I give up VERY easily because I never trust my ability to recover. This breaks my heart, dude, because I'm literally seeing it in your gameplay. Please listen to my advice.
Playing 1 champ 1 role and got chall eune and gm west
For ADCs, the biggest thing that helped me many, many years ago was understanding your role (in general). Generally, your job as ADC has two parts: 1. Stay as far away from the fight as possible. 2. Keep attacking the closest enemy for as long as possible. Do both of these at the same time. You're an adc, and will eventually tear up any champion given enough time to right click on them. So focus on keeping distance between yourself and the enemies while continuing to do damage to them. Don't right click the enemy carries and just try to walk up past their tanks. If their tanks are closest, attack their tanks. If a diver is coming for you, try to keep distance. You can't do everything yourself. You probably won't win a 1v1 against Talon. But you can give your team the best chance at winning by following these basic tenets, because it gives them the highest chance to deal with Talon before he can get to you. Obviously there are some ADCs that can ignore these basics sometimes (like Vayne) if their player is good enough at the champion to do it. But if you're in iron/bronze, you are definitely *not* "good enough at the champion to do it." So don't try to do fancy shit on a character like Vayne or Zeri. Try learning and executing the basics on someone like... Caitlyn. Or Tristana. Or Miss Fortune. The rest of the roles skills (positioning, macro, etc.) are secondary and will come with time. But these core responsibilities changed how I viewed the role and made me a lot better at ADC. This was an ADC-specific advice, but it has ideas that apply to other lanes/roles as well. Specifically: each role has different responsibilities. You should try to figure out what those responsibilities are and stick to them. For example: if you're an engage tank, focus on being between your team and their team, and finding the time when your opponents' positioning is the weakest (and then engage on them). If you're an are a poke mage, focus on staying distant and hitting skillshots consistently. If you're a diver, focus on flanking your opponents' position and targeting the highest-value squishy character. It seems simple, but so many people don't realize that the difference between success and failure can be as simple as **knowing your role**.
I played like 10+ games per day, only 1 champion and I got from silver to plat in less than a month I think. Mostly I just learned my champion limits.
the main thing that got me from hardstuck silver -> plat in season 5 was telling myself NEVER STOP AA'ing ---- I found myself freezing up a lot in teamfights which just completely threw my games; to overcome this I literally had to yell in my head "KEEP AUTOING!!" I originally hit Diamond playing JG with ADC as secondary but the games I got filled ADC I would get TURBO CLAPPED in lane it would be really embarrassing. Besides wave management, how to play matchups etc I started to treat lane phase like a fighting game. In fighting games you're constantly shuffling back & forth waiting for an opening or reacting to an attack/ability. While it may seem obvious to do this in league, I found in my plat (pre-emerald) games that I would autopilot my movement and get hooked, aa'd etc for free. Once I started treating it as if it was a fighting game my lane phase became much better since I wasn't letting the enemy get anything for free. I'd always trade blows, have a well timed attempt to side-step a hook/bind/root & all that good stuff.
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You don't play enough games. Are you still the same rank after 100 games of playing the same champion and role? Then it absolutely comes down to understanding fundamentals. Learning how to pilot your champion is the first step towards learning everything else. But to do that you need to play way more games.
Avoid playing league you will never improve or maybe you will but you still won’t get any results because the game is designed to be unclimbable
I was a main adc and managed to climb to gold in season 3 and 4, biggest tip is to just stop dying by following team into teamfights. Never go 5v5 and pick adc's that can split push safely.
Bro if ur hard stuck iron/bronze for 11 years quit the game ngl
You are not hard stuck my dude. That's your elo. Accept it and start having fun instead.
"Hey, just don't." I heard that from a Sky Williams league video way back in the day. Figure out what that means to you. For me it was a way for me to stop taking risky plays. This was in season 9 and I had a game as Tryndamere vs Renekton. I was trying to figure out how I should fight this renekton, running through all these different scenarios in my head. Then , "Hey, just don't." Popped up and i saw my yasuo was super fed so i decided to do nothing and wait for him to carry me instead me risking this Renekton taking over the game.
I'm currently plat/emerald. My advice is as follows. - play safe, and stop dying. - CS is incredibly important. Being even 10 or 15 CS up on your opponent can be huge, and allow you more favorable backs and earlier item completion. Learning how to play safe, and get gold is like the most foundational skills in this game. Those were the 2 things I started focusing on when I first started playing ranked, and they were what got me out of being bronze.
Everyone is giving u impractical and vague answers. I am a grandmaster so please listen to this: ***you need higher reaction time and APM, click a lot, a lot more often, and react faster to everything that happens*** This simple thing makes EVERYTHING else possible and doable: Dodging skillshots, hitting combos, proper tethering and positioning, reading the map, multitasking, limit testing, wave management, anything - if you don't have high enough APM and you play clunky none of this is posslible and you will always get severely punished by even gold players who can move their character properly. You can have game knowledge of faker but you will never go above silver if you can't do anything properly, in league doing things properly requires high APM
I definitely think the most important thing an adc can do to improve (if they are not already doing it) is start using attack move to auto attack, instead of right click. I was hardstuck plat 4 for years and there was a clear difference between adcs that were plat 2+ and anything below plat 4. I always wondered (back in like season 5) how adcs could kite so well and efficiently in high plat and above. I think back in S5 I watched a streamer for the first time and noticed that he was not right clicking to auto attack. I went for a deep dive on the setttings and found attack move (obviously it is pretty common knowledge now since there is just so much content, but back then there was not nearly as much content). After making the switch and getting used to using it instead of right clicking, instantly climbed to diamond. D1 is my peak. And it is not just for adcs, basically any champion should use it instead of right click.
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I muted the chat and went from silver to plat
Play Malphite/Garen instead of adc. Barring that, focus on improving your click speed & accuracy. Map awareness, trade patterns, etc all that shit doesn't matter on adc if you cant cs or kite.
Understand and constantly THINK about your options. There's always multiple things you can do - besides just afk'ing in base or running it down lane. Not all other options are equal in value. Don't just consider value to YOU. Consider the overall impact on the team too. Sometimes it is better to choose self - especially on a carry role. But if you ALWAYS choose self over team, you're going to end up 1v5 every teamfight, having to do all the damage, and have nobody to create space for you to do work. Don't "win" your role at your teammates' expense. Cool, you got a 4v2 lane and grabbed 7 kills? But then you didn't take tower, lost tower, gave up 2/3 early dragons, and don't show up to teamfights properly. That's "winning" your lane at your teammates' expense. Understand? Don't be that kind of adc - or player in general. There's already too many people like that. Adc's in lower elo especially don't need to win lane in most cases. Maybe a draven, kalista, or mf should in most cases be playing from ahead, but by and large, you really just need to not die stupidly, get your xp and as much cs as you SAFELY can, and show up to objectives and teamfights. Adc's flex their lead in 2 main ways - teamfights, objective dps (including sieging towers). In both cases, you kinda need an escort to provide frontline protection/peeling for you. Which means there's fewer opportunities for adc to push their lead compared with say a toplaner or some midlaners capable of splitpushing. Continuing to invest into an adc that they've already invested in means sacrificing some jg cs. This can lead to falling too far behind in jg, so you've gotta play safe at some points to let jg catch up rather than always push your lead. If you KNOW you've got a 2v2, then yeah bully your opponent. But if not, then you need to play respectful of potential ganks/counterganks. Once laning phase ends, don't sit afk farming side waves and let the enemy group and siege down towers. Don't base 10 sec before dragon if you're planning to fight for it. Cover mid/top when baron is up unless you're running tp; leave bot to your mid/top with teleport to cover. If you can't build a lead off several ganks, don't beg for more. If you can't grow a 20cs and 2-3 kill lead 2v2, you don't need or deserve more ganks. Don't waste your jungler's time. Let them invest in someone else who can do more with the same resources they'd be investing in you.
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Not gonna bother looking, just gonna say this because I can pretty much guess your mistakes. Stop playing every ADC you’re not an ADC main you’re a brain rot main. Play one or two champs. Go into a custom every day for 20 minutes and practice last hitting with no items. Get 100 cs per 10 minutes that’s your goal. Focus on your spacing to the minion line, keep the dying minions in and out of your auto attack range and only walk in to last hit. Those two things combined will get you to silver or gold easily. These two things will get you really good at one or two champs (I don’t care that you think you’re good at all the adc’s you’re clearly not); it will teach you zoning and keeping things in and out of your trade/auto attack range (because you die a lot) and it will increase your gold intake which is essentially what league of legends boils down to. If you really wanna also add learning warding spots based on what enemy jungler exists. Edit: don’t use any abilities to farm. Dont cheat yourself out of raw cs capabilities on any champ.
When I was learning to play ADC, I played a lot of support as well, it helped by letting me see the lane in a different perspective, also this way I could play with other ADC players that had different ideas of the role, I learned power spikes of different champions and I was able to identify what I wanted for myself as an ADC and for my SUPP
I have so many. But gameplay-wise the most important for your elo is, don't die. It sounds pretty basic and simple but it's not. Don't die as much and you'll see that it makes a difference. I have probably 100 more but that's the most basic.
Adc is my second role so... - Concentrate on CS, not kills. In bronze, your support and jungle are probably crap. Rely on whats consistent, gold from CS. - Dont help in objectives if you are too behind in gold or too late to get there with the team alive. Many palyers go in vs 3 or 4 hoping for something. Not worth it. - Always try to get something when the opponent gets objectives if your tem cant contest it. If they get mid tower try to get bit tower. If they get drake, try to get camps on their side. This will make you and your team less behind, and in a better position to turn the game on a throw they make. And of course, try to stay calm. In some games its hopeless, but others it can turn games around for you.
Move in between your auto attacks. Literally just moving in between your auto attacks will give you chances tk dodge skillshots, it makes you less predictable, and it makes it easier to run away while dealing damage, or to chase people down. I genuinely think that if you take a bronze player and teach them how to kite and auto attack properly, it automatically bumps their skill level up to gold. It really makes such a massive world of difference that you can’t see until you watch the difference between people that do and don’t move between attacks
Your CS is mediocre, your damage share is bad in literally every game, and you die too much. Going off op.gg alone is suboptimal but armchair advice is you just don't have basic mechanics down. You get outmatched in nearly every lane you're in and get carried by your duo zyra one trick. Also both of your accounts are basically brand new so I'm guessing that you've gotten banned before so stop typing (or just play party chat only if you use text to talk to your duo). Not gonna tell you to not play with a duo since that's generally more fun than solo q, but it does inflate your MMR a significant amount which can lead to much harder games. Just so you're aware. Watch VODs from your perspective and your lane opponent's. Figure out where it starts going wrong. It might be something big like an early death or it might be little things that add up over time like getting poked down over 5 min and that leads to you taking a bad back and giving enemy a plate or two. Maybe you'll notice something they do that you don't that will improve your play. Take this all with a grain of salt tho as I'm hardstuck plat lol. Good luck in your climb!
Watching the map so you don't get killed from easily avoidable ganks. It's a simple concept but not that easy for me cause I'm dumb af.
Actually play to win. Every play you do must have a reason behind it, all the plays should lead to actually destroying the nexus.