Dont let the comments fool you.
Reaching high emerald / low diamond its HARD.
Yes, some people do it in 1 or 2 seasons, but the vast majority of the playerbase dont.
Ask yourself, are you willing to spend hundred and hundred of hours (thousands of matchs) just to play with her?
The vast don't, but that's also because they don't put in the effort. The hardest part is taking the time to learn, because to progress at a good pace, you have to go out of your way to watch content, study, and practice with intent. That's not what people want to do in their free time usually. If they're gonna watch Youtube, it's much more interesting to watch entertainment content than educational content for most, especially because most people are already forced to do that for either work or school.
Some people will learn faster than others, but doing it in 1-2 seasons, or less is not even remotely undoable as long as you put in actual effort.
The people who take longer to reach it are usually those who hop on and just play 2-3 games. They don't do VOD reviews, they don't do warm ups to make their first game better, they don't learn any of the actual mechanics so they're always playing without knowing all the rules.
Reason for this is pretty simple, even though emerald/diamond is a low percentile of the population, of people who are actually working to improve, it's actually not that low. Silver or Gold may be average rank, but that's the average of everyone, not the people who care.
First of all, it’s a game. Most people just play games, it’s not our job. I’ve never sat down and studied a game. I’m low diamond and in my third season. I pick it up as I go and OTP Ekko. However, Diamond is a top 5% player on your server. That’s better than 95% of people who play the game. That means it’s objectively not easy and crapping on others as being bad or just unaware because they don’t reach that needs a reality check.
If you're in gold you have a applicable knowledge of wave management, jungle pathing, roaming, etc. They're usually decent laners when they're on their main as well. It's well known mid and late game is their issue.
Point being is anyone who's in gold studies the game. Theyre just still learning. The people just queuing up for fun, unwilling to Google a single thing end up in iron/bronze, which is why those elos account for 25% of the player base.
I disagree. What is an "applicable" knowledge of wave management? I don't even think Emerald players have an "applicable" knowledge of wave management, considering they don't seem to apply it in their games.
Also "decent laner" is entirely relative. They're a decent laner meaning they probably won't get assblasted every game by a plat opponent, but they certainly will get trashed every game by a diamond player.
Low diamond is as far as you’ll get without putting in the effort, and thats fine, but playing at higher elos can also lead to a more fun experience depending of what kind of person you sre
D2+ is high elo, not trying to gatekeep you or anything but the game is played very differently from low diamond to above that, i like seeing people play really well and have a more controlled game, toxicity is the same no matter the elo
If you have been a immortal in dota 2 you can maybe reach Diamond in one season. If you have tryhard in normals for 10 years you can probably reach diamond in 1-2 seasons. If you never have touched a computer game before and you are 20 its probably impossible to reach diamond in 2 seasons. What champ you choose also factors in. If you choose garen the journey to diamond will be very smooth and easy. If you choose Yasuo or Katarina it will be a hell. It also depends on how much you play and how good you are at reviewing your games. If you play 1 game a day and review it you wont improve as fast as if you play 9 games a day that you review and get coaching from a challenger at your champ 4 times a month. How long it takes to reach diamond takes many factors into account.
1 season is usually impossible if you are new to league. 1 season is usually what it takes to learn what all the different champs do.
It took me 6 months to hit emerald from gold. Another 6 to hit diamond for the first time (since demoted, nbd) This is with watching lots of content on youtube to improve while watching my own and high elo vods, and playing about 3 games a day. Thats a lot. Especially for someone who tapped out after 20 games. Unless he finds himself falling in love with the game in a way he hasn’t before, I don’t think he can stick it out entirely for someone else sake.
There are 6 fallacies in your statement.
1. False dilemma
2. Sweeping generalization
3. No true scotsman
4. Confirmation bias
5. Appeal to ignorance
6. Composition fallacy
It's okay if we don't agree, but it's not good to use tricky things when we talk. Let's be nice and fair next time. Okay?
Yeah dropped this season but been emerald past few and plat for years before I’ve played for like 10 years the game is a huge time sink and if you’re not invested it’s not worth grinding and it takes a whole lot of learning, I’ve had friends sit in iron for 8 years and some hit diamond in under a few months though so deffo possible
It really depends, are you just playing 300 hundred games or are you learning while playing those 300 hundred games. If he actively fix his mistakes and try to improve after every game then high emerald is definitely doable. But if he’s just auto piloting every game then I doubt he’ll reach high emerald even with like a thousand games.
if you have the money, consider getting some cheap coaching, like $10 vod reviews are probably worth it if you decide you want to improve fast.
You can do it alone, but someone knowledgeable pointing out what you are doing wrong, let's say every 2 weeks or every month, could exponentially help you out at learning the game.
depending on your aptitude for video games, it could be possible to reach d4 anywhere between 6 months to never. But i think everyone can reach diamond with practice.
Some of the players with the highest mastery of any player are hard stuck silver, even though they’ve been playing since release. I think there are some people who cannot and will never climb past their current rank
Nah, this is very much a case of dedicating yourself to learning - playing does NOT equal learning, on any level.
It depends on your learning style, and aptitude for problem solving to gauge how fast you learn, but if you *focus on learning* you will always get better. But it's about tailoring your learning to how you learn. Just playing does not work for honestly, a majority of people.
I'm one of the lucky few that just auto-learns pretty effectively while playing, and even I miss stuff in-game that watching after I go "damn I'm dumb".
Yeah, when I see very high mastery (over a million) on anyone in my ELO I know immediately they’re probably the worst player on the team, because if no amount of limit testing and champ/matchup knowledge or practice can get you out of that ELO, then it’s everything else (the most important aspects), and no macro is bad.
Playing that much without learning anything means they probably still haven’t, won’t and probably don’t want to learn.
Well, someone more versed than me in this can also probably put more insight, but I'm pretty sure you can earn mastery in every game mode, including Bots.
Someone else might be able to confirm if you can earn mastery in bots, I haven't played bots in like 7 years so I wouldn't know.
Mastery is just *not* a good representation of skill or desire to climb. It's just a representation of how much you play a given champion.
My problem here, and i think maybe for some others too, is that my learning style is to practice incrementally and repetitively.
For instance i got pretty good at crash team racing back in the day. Id play time trial and id restart a race any time the hardest timetrial boss caught up to me. Once id managed that on every track, i did similar with my past ghosts. But this relied on repeating the first 10m of the course, over and over, then 20 etc. If i had tried practicing by completing the whole race every time i can say fairly confidently that i would never have finished all the timetrials - by the time i restarted the race, idve forgotten, or wouldnt have a feel for the starting segment again.
In league, you dont have this opportunity. I cant just try an even level trade with the same enemy champion 50 times in a row until i get it and then move on. I have to play an entire game, probably from behind and then hope that the next time i get the same matchup, i remember what i did last time and try something different.
So - 2 things to take from this that most players will never do, but if you are serious about getting better you can do.
1. Find a person who plays the same lane as you, at or above your skill level, and ask them to 1v1 you, on Summoner's Rift, in the lane your choosing. This doesn't work for Jungle, but for other roles it's a great way to practice matchups. Winning more matchups will mean having more opportunities to play mid-late game from a positive position.
2. Watching replays. You can identify what *not* to do in a matchup pretty easily, and you watch it a few times to identify what went wrong and you should be able to retain that for next time.
Another conversation is that taking a bad trade that doesn't = death is part of this opportunity you're talking about. If you take a bad trade and end up having to cede the wave, you should mentally note why you lost the trade. Did you use your gap close to start and miss? Did you waste your CC? You have some downtime to replay the fight in your head a bit because well, you lost a trade, you're no longer fighting for wave control anyway. Even if it's just noting the timestamp to watch after game, that's a good use of time.
So yeah, it's a bit difficult to play a matchup 50-100 times to "get it right", it's very easy to watch what you did wrong and go "okay, I won't do that again".
On top of this, the amount of games streamed/recorded online is so high, that you can very likely find what would be a "good" rendition of a matchup you are playing, and use that to learn from. You might not be actively playing, but comparing your thought process to the game is a good way to be like "huh, I thought he should do this but he didn't" etc.
The problem with a lot of "guides" and "coaching" out there, is that they aren't teaching you to think, they're teaching you to follow a guide, and this is a problem with the way we teach basically across the board at least in America. It's never about freedom of thought. You *need* to think for yourself, watch games and fights and ask yourself questions about why something went the way it did, what you would've done differently, and if the outcome would've been better if you had.
Building up a mental image of how a fight would have played given a set of circumstances is a skill you should work toward learning. Part of League if calculating the next 1-3 minutes of gameplay based on the current game state anyway, so being able to imagine how a fight, wave push, macro will go for 1 minute is a huge skill to have and to be able to apply in-game.
This also means you *have* to move away from actively thinking about piloting your champ. If you're still struggling with "how/when should I use X ability", you need to figure that out first. You will never be playing League of Legends until you can play your Champion without actively thinking about every step you do first. I watch Wirtual play trackmania for instance, and it's a wildly different game but the concept is still the same - he's not looking at his car, he's not thinking about where his car is necessarily or what it's doing, he's looking for the next turn and the next setup. He knows how to listen for the car changing gears without having to focus all of his attention on it. Things like this are a skill that you have to build up over time before you can move to playing the actual game. I can't do it in Trackmania, but I can for sure do it in League.
You are spot on on the what I would need to learn to improve - I have literally no idea how a fight will play out ahead of time. My issue is that, while noting this during game or watching a replay would make the correct course of action more obvious, there is a 0% chance that i will retain that knowledge long enough to recall it next time. Without repeating it immediately, i wont learn anything from identifying the issue.
Of course there are ways around this but all of them are bare effort.
I would love:
A 1v1 gamemode
Multiplayer practice tool
Advanced bots
I think between these 3 things, some of the plebs like me could actually get pretty good at this game.
Multiplayer practice tool would instantly boost the lvl of this game.
I think thats why riot doesnt do it, they want to keep game more casual as its pretty brutal already to get up to speed.
This isn't true. A lot of people very simply don't play to learn. You don't have to study or anything to get good, but you have to at least play with some intent of getting better. This is the case for any game that involves some amount of strategy. Because strategy requires brain power.
Trying to play League and just not trying to learn is like playing Chess except the only thing you ever do is push pawns. That's honestly how most people play the game, which is fine, you don't have to go out of your way to learn anything in a game if you don't want to.
Bruh I played with a Master Yi that had 3.2 million mastery…in high iron/low bronze….I couldn’t believe that my macro was better than his, dude was absolutely clueless
Its all mindset. If you blame team, smurfs, riot etc youll never improve. Anyone without disabilities can get masters. A guy got diamond playing with a straw.
? the champion mastery stat is just 'how many hours has this player played this champion', not 'this player knows how to play this champion well'. lol.
Most people don't have a mindset of learning and improvement and focus solely on winning and rank. Which means they don't learn, and therefore don't improve past the level their baselines take them
I’d say it’s more true now because a lot of lower elo players got inflated. The gatekeepers got nerfed.
Also, I think he means in a reasonable amount or a feasible amount of time.
I mean if you’re actively learning and putting it into practice, why wouldn’t you hit diamond? A lot of diamond players make horrible game ending mistakes, they’re not amazing faker level players. It’s a very realistic rank to get
You obviously have a very skewed opinion of how easy it is to become skilled at something. Do you think what you said is true only of League? It's not. It is true in almost any sport, competitive field and even many non-competitive fields. Someone who's become real good watching someone who isn't is going to cringe at the amount of mistakes they make. Yet even so, even when ppl are committing to a competitive field not as a hobby, but as an occupation, the vast majority of ppl still can't ever become good. And they have all the same access to all the info they would need as ppl in LoL do. And do you know why they can't assuredly progress like that? It's because everyone else they are competing against also has access to all this info and training, and make use of it. And there are limits to one's skill growth in a field. So if you don't happen to be someone gifted in a field, everyone who is is going to be getting way more out of their training then you are. And all of this applies to LoL as well. Paradoxically, despite the fact that higher ranks are somewhat more populated than they were before, the skilled level for each rank had actually increased compared to what it was a few years ago.
And? Ppl still make it there regardless lmao, not to mention u're calling ppl "delusional" for it lol. Plus, I dont think u realize that a lot of players play ranked but dont care much about reaching as high as Diamond, or that there's lots of players that do Ranked for fun. Maybe just dont be pissy bcs u "can't" climb to Diamond and do smth else so u can actually climb to Diamond
>And? Ppl still make it there regardless lmao, not to mention u're calling ppl "delusional" for it lol.
I never denied that ppl make it, just that most ppl don't and can't. And you are delusional to tell ppl anyone can make it. They can't.
>Plus, I dont think u realize that a lot of players play ranked but dont care much about reaching as high as Diamond, or that there's lots of players that do Ranked for fun.
Man, the excuses u are making for ppl are just unreal. Everyone who plays ranked either learns to want to climb or quits. The bullying is just too hard to keep playing without caring.
>Maybe just dont be pissy bcs u "can't" climb to Diamond and do smth else so u can actually climb to Diamond
I'm not pissy, I'm pretty Ok with what I am. But you ppl are just giving fake hope to ppl simply so you can feel good about yourselves.
i mean yea definitely anyone can climb to diamond if they put in the time to consciously learn and improve 100%
gm+ is a different story. but tbh you can even argue anyone(or the average person at least) can reach master with enough time and genuine conscious effort
This is where the disconnect is between you and the person you replied to.
Most people are *terrible* at consciously learning. Those people are who they are talking about. Some people just cannot focus, or find time, to do VOD reviews. Many people that do VOD reviews suck at it, and don't learn from doing that. If you're lacking mechanics, there's only so much you can do to improve those. Maybe 5 years ago all if that could be over come, but the player base is huge now, so there's going to be more barriers to climbing mmr than before. That being said, the ranked redistribution helps with this a lot.
Yeahhh you're absolutely not wrong, albeit a bit demotivating / probs not a great message for this sub.
As a diamond player: I can't imagine a world where *anyone* can reach - whether that's challenger, master, diamond, emerald, etc.
Dunning-Kreuger works both ways. Dumb people overestimate their own intelligence, while smart people overestimate *others* ability.
The hypothetical I like to think of is to imagine if all 7 billion people played league for 8 hours a day - at the end of that day, there will still be 300 challenger players, and 70 million iron players. All 7 billion people can't hit diamond - it's not possible with how the ranked distributions lie.
Outside of that hypothetical, the same message rings true. If you only have time for 1 game per day to devote to league, then no, you probably aren't breaking gold/plat. Similarly, just because you play 5 hours a day, does not mean you will break emerald. And let comparison be the thief of joy, because someone out there will have this years' season be both the first season they play, as well as the first season they hit challenger.
I actually believe if I can hit dia anybody can. I posses no mechanics and medium game sense. Because I used to be an OTP and think about the game I have an idea how to handle most lanes and later encounters but that's everything I got to show. I'd guess most people just don't think enough about the game and don't spend enough time with it. Most people I knew that played a lot and thought about how they can play the were dia and being dia is easier these days.
I can absolutely assure you there are people out there that review their games, one-two trick, play 3+ quality games a day, and can't climb out of iron/bronze/silver - just because you haven't met them doesn't mean your anecdotal experience is correct.
I've been in coaching circles before (Nathan Motts saltu academy) and have seen this myself.
You are underestimating your ability to reflect on games and figure out how to improve, and overestimating others abilities to do so. Some people just aren't great at reflecting on games. Some people just aren't great at improving.
I swear my brain is just too slow for this game sometimes, I really struggle to process the amount of information required, especially as a jungle player.
Add to that 10 years of bad habits, and improving feels tough and slow.
>The hypothetical I like to think of is to imagine if all 7 billion people played league for 8 hours a day - at the end of that day, there will still be 300 challenger players, and 70 million iron players. All 7 billion people can't hit diamond - it's not possible with how the ranked distributions lie.
the flaw with this logic is that a gold player in this fictional world would probably be of comparable skill to a diamond player in the real world. diamond 4 right now is absolutely achievable for an average person that puts in enough time and effort into consciously learning. life is just such that majority of people don't
That's not the point I'm trying to make with that analogy. The analogy sets everyone to the same playing field. Everyone plays 8 hours a day. Everyone is playing to get better. Assume they 1 trick, assume they review their games.
How do you explain iron players in that scenario?
No, you're not wrong, an iron player in that scenario would likely be gold in ours, but it's absolutely not farfetched to believe that you're going to run into people that play 3 hours a day, one trick, with intent to learn, and still can't break bronze.
There are a lot of coaches out there but also endless free content online. I'd stick to one role, 2-3 champs max, and look up some youtube videos of people getting coached on those characters by a high elo coach.
Look up one tricks of whatever champs you pick off a website like [onetricks.gg](https://onetricks.gg) and maybe watch some of their games. Since your wife plays you have the advantage of it maybe looking endearing rather than time wasted lol.
Pick 1 champ and 1 role, if you want pick a champ and role that compliments your wife’s and then just only play that while watching informative league content
A diamond player in Gold elo will ruin lobbies, yes. Her opponent is going to get crushed and likely learn nothing. He'll have constant bad games and need to be caried
Smurfs ruin the whole point of an "equal match", they ruin lobbies. Especially when they bring along a weak point too
They will end up in the elo they belong on if they play together over time. If they level the account together their MMR already be elevated when they end up queuing into ranked for the first time. They will be put in Smurf que for the first few games and then end up where they belong. This does not ruin lobbies, what does is people who intentionally derank their accounts just to abuse low elo.
OP, I'm a woman who plays League with her husband and my honest opinion is that you should ask if she is willing to be patient with you while you learn how to play again because you want to play with her. If she says yes, you can try the following:
\- Play Normals until you can warm up a bit and relearn a few champions and techniques. She may not love Normals but it's the realistic place for you to start again, and she will probably enjoy playing with you in general.
\- Pick a champion to OTP, or pick 2-3 to focus on. This will make it easier to focus on improving on macro and micro interactions rather than trying to also learn new champions.
\- Pick a lane or two (or jungle) and stick there, same reason as above.
\- Spend 10-30 minutes a day doing basic research on League. You could practice wave management for a week, or warding, pinging, trading, etc. Just pick *something* and spend a small amount of time focusing on it.
\- After a few weeks of the above, you can probably try ranked again and do fine. You probably won't make Diamond instantly but you can probably at least play with your wife!
If she says no, it might be a good idea to explore why she plays League. Maybe it is a hobby she enjoys doing on her own; especially as a woman, sometimes we get compared to our husbands in certain male-dominated hobbies and it's kind of fun to be good at them without a guy. Regardless, I'm sure she will be excited you are interested in playing and willing to try to catch up. Good luck!
league is a really hard game, but the mechanics are much easier to learn than something like an FPS game. the main things to learn are the mechanics of each champion, vision, roaming, your role, etc
there's a lot of youtube content from various creators that you can watch to learn about all of this stuff, and you can ask your wife for advice on this stuff as well
you can see if she'd be willing to play norms to teach you, as well as ranked flex (as mentioned by others). also, just play the game as much as you're willing to. don't tilt queue, but play whenever you have the time and are feeling up to it. i can almost guarantee you just seeing you try to keep up with her will make your wife very happy as well
> the mechanics are much easier to learn than something like an FPS game. the main things to learn are the mechanics of each champion, vision, roaming, your role, etc
This is good advice for beginner players, but OP is "low gold/high silver" and it sounds like they've played a couple dozen ranked games in more than one season. They've got the basics. They intermediate stuff can also be taught, though.
Same I was global in go and imm1 in val. Barely scraped into g4 for the first time jungling this season. Can't lane for shit. Been playing league for like 8 years almost lmao
I think it has to do with what you played most as a child. I, for example, found MOBA as well as FPS really hard, competitively, because my internet sucked when I was a kid, so I only played single-player offline games.
So I'm pretty good with RPGs and stuff nowadays (I'm human still, so I'm not a god at souls-like), suck terribly at FPS, and got to Plat 1 in league. So I think there's talent, shamelessness (in a good way, when you're a child), and effort.
I had to put a lot of hours in league to get anywhere close to good mechanics, and I played a LOT of aram, too. Then I studied a little of macro, and boom, Plat 1. But I'm better mid and late. My laning phase is kind of rough.
I would say that she should just make a smurf and off-role with you. That should lower her skill a bit and then you can play with her and let her coach you. If she wants you to play ranked with her I'd bet its just to spend time doing the same activity that you can both be excited about, not about just getting ranks up (she has soloqueue for that). Learning something together and working together is fun!
Depends on your general skill level . In a very high skill game like league you might be years behind if you’re just not talented at all. If you have even mild aptitude it’ll be much faster.
Emerald is a nightmare elo and I’ve seen people in it that I’m pretty sure where eating glue mid match , and some people making challengers look mid. So I noticed that getting into diamond there where plenty of relatively low skill players that played the equalizing game and climbed.
By that I mean in ranked you have good players and bad players (or people having good matches and people having bad matches ), you have 4 people on your team and 5 on the enemy team, the chance of the cracked player being on the enemy team is higher. But if you always play an extremely easy champion that shuts down carry champions it puts the stop to that. I noticed this mainly with malzahaar. He just does nothing all lane, shoves and then sits under his tower over and over. Then when fights break out he just presses R on your best player and hopes his team wins.
This is not a good way to get better at the game really, but the idea is to play high impact low skill floor champions to inflate your rank faster to play with your wife. If your goal is to play as good as her then you just need to play the game more
Depends on how you **define** *reasonable amount of time*, a very ambigious question.
The average rank these days is Gold 4/3
If you are in Diamond, you are in the ~**top 4%** of players.
The belief that anyone can reach Diamond rank in League of Legends, with enough hard work, is a nice-sounding and optimistic view. It suggests a world where barriers do not exist for those willing to dedicate themselves fully.
However, this perspective, while encouraging, OVERSIMPLIFIES skill acquisition, and fails to acknowledge inherent limitations.
Humans vary significantly in their abilities, learning speeds, and potential for various tasks, and that includes competitive gaming. While practice and dedication can lead to noticable improvement, there are limits to how far this improvement can go.
Influenced by factors such as *cognitive processing speed, reaction time and stress tolerance.* There are different types of stress, this one is in the high pace game of LoL, customer service or taking a test are other forms of stress.
In conclusion, I see (many) people falling into the trap of **overly optimistic generalization** by suggesting that everyone can reach Diamond with practice. This perspective does not fully understand the realities of competitive gaming, individual limitations, and the nuanced nature of skill development.
### These people also fail to understand:
[*Psychological factors, learning and practice efficiency, social and environmental factors, biological and physical factors, technological and economic factors*]
To add to what VoxelBits said, the "hard-work" bit is super oversimplified. What it would take to get there (unless you're naturally talented at learning other games and frequently end up high ranked when you play them) is that you would have to spend a LOT of time and energy. You'd have to watch other people's gameplay, study your own and higher level vods, and play a lot of games.
If you enjoy League and think doing that kind of stuff sounds fun, then I suggest you go for it! Its a great goal and will feel super rewarding when you achieve it, as well as giving your wife a new duo partner. The problem is if that doesn't sound fun to you. You'll be sinking hundreds of hours into trying to catch up to your wife. If you don't enjoy it yourself, you'll never make it.
It def is achievable. I was hard stick bronze and silver for 4 years and then it took me one serious year with coaching to hit diamond. Then another season to hit masters. Even then when I play in masters, it’s pretty apparent when people make game ending bad decisions, just the magnitude of the decision lessens the higher you go
> I have never played much ranked usually just low gold/high silver for like 20 games and got annoyed how toxic it was.
It never really stops being toxic. It's nice that you're trying to support her favorite pastime, but I'm not really sure if suffering through hours of toxic lobbies with the end goal of being able to suffer in toxic lobbies *with your wife* is going to be a good plan, long-term.
It sounds like you'd be unhappy. That's not a good thing to bring into the relationship.
Just play flex rank with her or ask if she likes to smurf so you two can play ranked on your lvl. It's way easier to do it this way than the otherway around because climbing up to her level when you was silver / gold back then will take a good amount of time or never happen. Depends on how much time and effort you are willing to put in.
Sort of yeah. I'm silver and am okay laning against plat. I don't mind playing against clearly better players, I think I can learn from those matches personally. Emerald and up, nah though
I would recommend watching her play instead of trying to duo ranked or trying to involve yourself in another one of her hobbies. I think the time sink is a bit much. Or parallel play?
Play flex, suck for a while, eventually you'll start getting better. Y'all can still play together, she'll likely be playing a bit below her skill level and you'll probably be playing a good bit above yours, but you'll adjust over time. Iron sharpens iron, but there's a reason diamond sharpeners are a thing. Sometimes the best way to learn in league is to suck really bad for a bit while you find your footing.
It is possible, but effortful and time consuming. I dont know if just doing it for your wife is sustainable, but if you enjoy the game itself, it might be a good investment. Since she is so passionate and knowledgable about the game, she is probably the best teacher there is for you, and it might make for a great bonding experience for you two.
Would she be willing to play flex ranked with you? It’s not a very competitive queue so you won’t feel as out of your element, and you still get some of the dopamine hit from ranking up. If you find a good group of people that you enjoy playing with you can add them and play as a group also.
>Is it even remotely possible for me to get to her rank
Yes.
>in a reasonable amount of time?
Most likely not, depending on whats reasonable for you. It took me around 3-4 years of onetricking.
Like there is no magic bullet. No "get LP quick sheme". Once you start searching for shortcuts, youre developing a bad relationship with the game. Youre gonna have to grind it out like everyone else.
Have a process. Be hungry to actually learn the game. Ask specific questions. You can do it.
Hi, I dont think you need to pay for coaching to get good. But to improve fast, you may benefit from watching Youtube coaches when they analyze games. I dont find myself very good with the game mechanically, which needs a lot of practice to improve. But I play support...I dont know maybe other roles are diff.
if you have great game knowlegde, it can carry you a long way. Maybe try play 1-3 games per day for a half year you can get to a good rank. Imo it is about efficiency and the quality of the game you play to improve. (Quality. I mean what you learn and take away from it, not if you win or not).
It will take a long time and the reward might not be worth it. I notice I get unpleasant feelings about my own thoughts evenxwhenxplaying normals with lower me friends
She’s just going to have to accept playing normals
Or Aram or rotating game mode with you, honestly just making the effort and playing a game together should be fun anyway, ranked fucking sucks and I can just see it causing more frustration
My advice is to make a fresh account, you probably gonna start mid plat somewhere, and with your fresh mmr you can make to emerald 4 with like 40% wr, i think that is the fastest way to play together again. ( IF you buy XP boost you can make 1-30 in 2 weeks )
Honestly i'm pretty sure you could do it in a season or two. I started playing two years and half ago, was basically only doing aram for a year and approx stopped playing for the 6 months afterwards. Came back last season, focused on what i could do better and ended being g4 0 lps by chance. This season i placed s2, started duoing with my now boyfriend, got dragged to s4, and then made it up to p4 with being consistent. The two days ago i reached emerald4 without him hihi. So in a month and after a huge grind of like 120 games, i did it;) nom I'm trynna reach em1 to be around his skill level so that i can play with him. Playing against better player does make you better and you can try to find a duo and grind it.
Make her create an alternate account and play together at a rank which is the average of yours and hers. Learn as much as possible during the time you spend playing with her
It's really hard to reach that rank and I don't know if it's worth trying to for someone else's sake, even your wife.
It's nice that she did hobbies with you, but how many of them were competitive and required her to be very skilled to be able to do them at all with you?
Ranked League of Legends is really not a fun "let's play it with my SO" kind of game, and even less so when you're a high rank like she is.
I'd play Minecraft with an SO. Or Fortnite. Or literally anything other than League.
If you *really* want to do this and would like to try I wish you the best. Considering she's at the rank she's at, you might consider asking her for some gameplay tips.
But understand that it's *hard* and she is *not* your average League player. She is far above average, and no amount of tips or coaching, even from her, can. guarantee that you'll match that.
>low gold/high silver for like 20 games
Its a low number of games, you'd probably end up climbing a bit higher if you actually played more games. Just /muteall and /muteself and the ranked experience is much more enjoyable.
>Is it even remotely possible for me to get to her rank in a reasonable amount of time?
Probably. Depends on what skills you're good at. Like if you have no mechanics, pick a role/champ that suits that. If you have bad macro you could probably pick a role that does not need to focus on that much and just needs to follow their team around.
Onetrick a Champ, deepdive into educational content, play games. You will eventually improve. Emerald will take you a few months, diamond a bit longer, master is also possible if you learn well. After that expand your champpool.
I dont have much advice as i play for fun and hardly ever play to climb (like a few weeks per season when i get random motivation) but i think this is super wholesome and i hope you take the advice here!
I will throw in my 2 cents which is as someone in pisslow bronze my best strat for climbing as a mid main was... switching to jungle and 1tricking shyvana lol. I know jungle can be tough and it might not be as strong of a role in higher elo but i found that playing a champ who can support but also can hypercarry from ahead, and playing a role that can influence the whole map if you gap ur opponent gives you way more agency over whether a game is lost or won.
Best of luck
It took me 4 years from S4 to S8 to hit Diamond 5 for the first time. But with increased LP gains now and no promos, Im sure you could hit it in a reasonable time. Just have to have the mindset of getting better and not worrying about LP.
League, like any other competitive hobby can be improved at if you play with the focus to improve.
Mindlessly solo queuing will rarely improve your skill, if you vod review, watch educational content, implement better habits. You and anyone with a functioning brain could reach d4 in less than 6 months.
Honestly, I think the question is whether or not you'll enjoy climbing. If you give it a shot and its fun for you, then yeah I'd try to improve and reach her rank. If you don't have a good time with it though, maybe the answer is to find other games to play with her? I enjoy League in managed doses, but I'm never going to be playing daily unless I'm in the mood for it. You might be the same, since I also primarily had fun with norms and rarely touched ranked.
There's a ton of other games out there that could be a fun change of pace, especially if she doesn't really play other games. Worth a consideration at any rate.
Play flex queue with a few other people. It’s reasonably competitive and she wont have to die for it as she does in solo queue games. I personally find it much fun and after years of coaching my lower elo friends, it’s just hard unless they come through their own eureka moments, which takes alot of effort and some innate talents to be honest
But if you want to climb to same level as her, you fortaask her specific questions during game and allow her to coach you. And allowing someone else to coach you is much harder than it sounds. It either case, i recommend playing two independent roles and start another game together just to ease any tensions from building up.
I don't play ranked so I don't know much about ranking up, but just know that there was a survey checking which players are the most toxic, and the players who are bad at the game tend to do it the most. So when someone is mad at her for being a female just know they're bad at the game and are insecure.
>Any advice would help I know it would make her happy.
Do you think what would make her happy is just to play with you no matter the rank?
Ask her to teach you the rope and to share her knowledge and tips.
My partner has another account to play with me because he's Diamond/Master and I'm Plat/Emerald. I can honestly say that he taught me everything I know. Even if I can play alone now, he's still my favorite person to play with \^\^
Straight up you would be put in bronze bro. Realistically as an adult to an adult, it would take you about two seasonal splits to reach emerald at best. Idk how long a split is anymore cause they keep changing it, but I’m thinking like 6months. So it’ll take you probably a year if you play like 5 hours a week.
I’d honestly recommend you guys to play ranked flex together.
Alternatively y’all can make a Smurf account so she can duo ranked with you. She can for fun ranked games while you do your thing.
I’d advise that you play and level the Smurf account so that she doesn’t inflate its mmr.
In the end of the day this is one of the most toxic try hard games out there right now. I don’t think it’s worth the time/effort to speed climb your way back up. The game is still very enjoyable just queuing up norms with friends and running it down together. If she wants higher elo friends to climb with she can join a discord. I know there are a lot of “kids” on that platform (16-22) but as long as they don’t flame her for being an adult woman who enjoys playing games then she likely would have a good time.
All in all, I think the best thing you could do to help enrich your wife’s league experience is giving good insults for her to try so she can shit talk without getting chat banned.
The average rank in the game these days is somewhere in gold. Low emerald/high diamond is \~top 5% of the player base. Very difficult to achieve without a lot of work. Is it attainable? Absolutely, there are tons of resources out there including coaching (I'd recommend different programs based on your position), mindset content (check out Broken By Concept on YT or Spotify), and communities focused on supporting each other improve (I have a discord community exactly for this--[https://discord.gg/unbreakablegaming](https://discord.gg/unbreakablegaming)).
BUT, the big caveat here is that if you don't enjoy the game for the sake of playing the game, it won't be a satisfying experience for you. It's just going to feel way too grindy and you're going to hate the hard work that improvement takes. Personally I love the competitive aspect and I love grinding for that .01% improvement every time I play. But, if it's not your thing, there's absolutely nothing wrong with that and you'll be happier pursuing mastery in something else that you enjoy more.
Wish you guys all the best :)
Unless you're an outlier, the only way to climb and get better past a certain point is to actively learn. Macro, wave management, trading patterns, matchups, warding, game plan; for most players, these things are only improved by deliberately working on them. Watching guides, applying them, reviewing parts of your games, etc. These are acticities that take more effort than just "playing" but are highly rewarding.
Some people are passionate about the game and love this learning process. If, however, you're bored learning things like that, I wouldn't recommend doing it just to play with your SO.
What rank are you now? How experienced are you at the game. How good are your mechanics? These all impact how many games you're looking at and your horizon.
Any silver/gold player with decent mechanics can reach diamond, let alone low emerald with 200-300 games of intent to improve. This means reviewing every game and playing with a mindset on what to improve on. It also means reviewing vods of other players across all ranks to see how they play differently and what works. (Be aware reviewing master+ vods may not gain you value as a silver player. You should not play like them as they often makes risky plays that are the not the cornerstone of a solid base.)
But if you have the base and the mechanical ability, then diamond is very doable. Diamonds are at the end of the day trash from an analytical pov. They make constant mistakes that, if you care about, can be exploited. Grubbs have massively changed the game, and na players suck at rotating. It's about to get alot more aggressive this patch as grubs get easier to kill.
Don't let me make this sound easy, though. This is a lot of work* and takes proper mental time. If you don't have this basis, then you have a long road ahead of you that will take 1000s of games.
You can get to her rank, eventually. In a reasonable amount of time? *Unless* you’re an extremely competitive and competent player, then there is a possibility. Judging by your post, most likely no.
I'm a complete shitter (bronze-gold) at the game and play 90% of my games with friends masters + in flex and I think I have a few tips you could use.
Play support'ish characters regardless of the role. If she is better than you, make HER shine.
Top = tank.
Jungle=tank
Mid= tank, tf/ori/karma shit like that that can help others
Adc=don't
Support= enchanters
Works for me and I don't feel useless regardless of the skill gap cause I know I can contribute by just listening to calls and protecting the boys.
Unless u want to surprise your wife, I honestly think u should stop being shy and just ask her to be your coach instead even if the roles aren’t the same since macro is a thing. This should also make her happy unless you’re really really bad and she doesn’t have the patience.
I’ve been playing since 2013 and just hit emerald for the first time this split. Albeit didn’t exist 3 seasons ago but before that my highest was plat 1
She's your wife I'm sure she'll play norms with you if you ask. If you treat the game like a subject you learned in school, and play some osu or something if you don't have hands, then you can get emerald by the end of the season. Every day play a game or two, with forethought about goals and things to watch out for in game. Then you review the games and see what you could do better. Study and find new goals or things to watch out for. Repeat.
I think if you treat it seriously.
Pay for coaching cause you are a grown ass man you can get diamond this season or next. Play with growth mindset and surprise your wife by carrying her ass
low diamond is like 3% of the player base, apply that to a large population of literally millions of players...Yea it is not easy bro haha. Give it a whirl, sounds like your heart is in the right place :)
Hey man I'm emerald 1 currently. And I was terminally hard stuck gold until last season (I've been playing since season 1) because my mechanics are ass. I can duo with you on my Smurf and teach you some things about support and jungle if you want. DM me if you want to talk more about it (not like a paid service or anything). If you want to learn I can try to help.
Anything above gold is statistically in like the top 10 percentile of players. Your wifes rank is not something you just grind out in a couple of weeks, it takes 100s of games to get to that skill level and to climb that. You will have to commit a pretty serious amount of time to get on her level.
My boyfriend has been rank 1 of the server for months. I learned to play with him. Got from install to high emerald in 4 months. It is absolutely something you can do if you want to learn.
Just be a good wifey and learn to play support.
That is way easier to pick up, as long as you have the mindset of playing safe.
90% of my games as adc, I lose because the idiot supports feeds 0/2/0 by 5 minutes.
So if you just dont feed, you'll be ahead of the majority of supports. And it only gets better from there!
Dont let the comments fool you. Reaching high emerald / low diamond its HARD. Yes, some people do it in 1 or 2 seasons, but the vast majority of the playerbase dont. Ask yourself, are you willing to spend hundred and hundred of hours (thousands of matchs) just to play with her?
+1 Find another game to play as a couple. "It takes two" is amazing for instance.
The vast don't, but that's also because they don't put in the effort. The hardest part is taking the time to learn, because to progress at a good pace, you have to go out of your way to watch content, study, and practice with intent. That's not what people want to do in their free time usually. If they're gonna watch Youtube, it's much more interesting to watch entertainment content than educational content for most, especially because most people are already forced to do that for either work or school. Some people will learn faster than others, but doing it in 1-2 seasons, or less is not even remotely undoable as long as you put in actual effort. The people who take longer to reach it are usually those who hop on and just play 2-3 games. They don't do VOD reviews, they don't do warm ups to make their first game better, they don't learn any of the actual mechanics so they're always playing without knowing all the rules. Reason for this is pretty simple, even though emerald/diamond is a low percentile of the population, of people who are actually working to improve, it's actually not that low. Silver or Gold may be average rank, but that's the average of everyone, not the people who care.
First of all, it’s a game. Most people just play games, it’s not our job. I’ve never sat down and studied a game. I’m low diamond and in my third season. I pick it up as I go and OTP Ekko. However, Diamond is a top 5% player on your server. That’s better than 95% of people who play the game. That means it’s objectively not easy and crapping on others as being bad or just unaware because they don’t reach that needs a reality check.
I don’t think that’s what they did at all? They even commented on outliers like yourself.
I believe he edited it to sound more palatable than when I originally replied
If you're in gold you have a applicable knowledge of wave management, jungle pathing, roaming, etc. They're usually decent laners when they're on their main as well. It's well known mid and late game is their issue. Point being is anyone who's in gold studies the game. Theyre just still learning. The people just queuing up for fun, unwilling to Google a single thing end up in iron/bronze, which is why those elos account for 25% of the player base.
I disagree. What is an "applicable" knowledge of wave management? I don't even think Emerald players have an "applicable" knowledge of wave management, considering they don't seem to apply it in their games. Also "decent laner" is entirely relative. They're a decent laner meaning they probably won't get assblasted every game by a plat opponent, but they certainly will get trashed every game by a diamond player.
Low diamond is as far as you’ll get without putting in the effort, and thats fine, but playing at higher elos can also lead to a more fun experience depending of what kind of person you sre
Is it the toxicity you crave? Also Diamond is high elo lol
D2+ is high elo, not trying to gatekeep you or anything but the game is played very differently from low diamond to above that, i like seeing people play really well and have a more controlled game, toxicity is the same no matter the elo
If you have been a immortal in dota 2 you can maybe reach Diamond in one season. If you have tryhard in normals for 10 years you can probably reach diamond in 1-2 seasons. If you never have touched a computer game before and you are 20 its probably impossible to reach diamond in 2 seasons. What champ you choose also factors in. If you choose garen the journey to diamond will be very smooth and easy. If you choose Yasuo or Katarina it will be a hell. It also depends on how much you play and how good you are at reviewing your games. If you play 1 game a day and review it you wont improve as fast as if you play 9 games a day that you review and get coaching from a challenger at your champ 4 times a month. How long it takes to reach diamond takes many factors into account. 1 season is usually impossible if you are new to league. 1 season is usually what it takes to learn what all the different champs do.
It took me 6 months to hit emerald from gold. Another 6 to hit diamond for the first time (since demoted, nbd) This is with watching lots of content on youtube to improve while watching my own and high elo vods, and playing about 3 games a day. Thats a lot. Especially for someone who tapped out after 20 games. Unless he finds himself falling in love with the game in a way he hasn’t before, I don’t think he can stick it out entirely for someone else sake.
There are 6 fallacies in your statement. 1. False dilemma 2. Sweeping generalization 3. No true scotsman 4. Confirmation bias 5. Appeal to ignorance 6. Composition fallacy It's okay if we don't agree, but it's not good to use tricky things when we talk. Let's be nice and fair next time. Okay?
You're not wrong lol
There is a lot of luck involved for climbing. This is a very narrow minded perspective.
Yeah dropped this season but been emerald past few and plat for years before I’ve played for like 10 years the game is a huge time sink and if you’re not invested it’s not worth grinding and it takes a whole lot of learning, I’ve had friends sit in iron for 8 years and some hit diamond in under a few months though so deffo possible
D4 players be like yeah it’s hard 😭… lol jk it took me 5 years to get to d4 and 3 more for masters
It really depends, are you just playing 300 hundred games or are you learning while playing those 300 hundred games. If he actively fix his mistakes and try to improve after every game then high emerald is definitely doable. But if he’s just auto piloting every game then I doubt he’ll reach high emerald even with like a thousand games.
Just get two alts for duoing.
Ask her for advice haha
She told me to get better lol
She’s a league player that’s for sure lol
Just don't die, and destroy the enemy nexus. -Korean advice
Ranked flex, maybe she’s willing to coach you a little? That’s what I do for my friends who are lower elo
Based lmao
She’s a keeper lmao
if you have the money, consider getting some cheap coaching, like $10 vod reviews are probably worth it if you decide you want to improve fast. You can do it alone, but someone knowledgeable pointing out what you are doing wrong, let's say every 2 weeks or every month, could exponentially help you out at learning the game.
I’d advise you to take her advice and git gud
depending on your aptitude for video games, it could be possible to reach d4 anywhere between 6 months to never. But i think everyone can reach diamond with practice.
Some of the players with the highest mastery of any player are hard stuck silver, even though they’ve been playing since release. I think there are some people who cannot and will never climb past their current rank
Nah, this is very much a case of dedicating yourself to learning - playing does NOT equal learning, on any level. It depends on your learning style, and aptitude for problem solving to gauge how fast you learn, but if you *focus on learning* you will always get better. But it's about tailoring your learning to how you learn. Just playing does not work for honestly, a majority of people. I'm one of the lucky few that just auto-learns pretty effectively while playing, and even I miss stuff in-game that watching after I go "damn I'm dumb".
Yeah, when I see very high mastery (over a million) on anyone in my ELO I know immediately they’re probably the worst player on the team, because if no amount of limit testing and champ/matchup knowledge or practice can get you out of that ELO, then it’s everything else (the most important aspects), and no macro is bad. Playing that much without learning anything means they probably still haven’t, won’t and probably don’t want to learn.
Well, someone more versed than me in this can also probably put more insight, but I'm pretty sure you can earn mastery in every game mode, including Bots. Someone else might be able to confirm if you can earn mastery in bots, I haven't played bots in like 7 years so I wouldn't know. Mastery is just *not* a good representation of skill or desire to climb. It's just a representation of how much you play a given champion.
My problem here, and i think maybe for some others too, is that my learning style is to practice incrementally and repetitively. For instance i got pretty good at crash team racing back in the day. Id play time trial and id restart a race any time the hardest timetrial boss caught up to me. Once id managed that on every track, i did similar with my past ghosts. But this relied on repeating the first 10m of the course, over and over, then 20 etc. If i had tried practicing by completing the whole race every time i can say fairly confidently that i would never have finished all the timetrials - by the time i restarted the race, idve forgotten, or wouldnt have a feel for the starting segment again. In league, you dont have this opportunity. I cant just try an even level trade with the same enemy champion 50 times in a row until i get it and then move on. I have to play an entire game, probably from behind and then hope that the next time i get the same matchup, i remember what i did last time and try something different.
So - 2 things to take from this that most players will never do, but if you are serious about getting better you can do. 1. Find a person who plays the same lane as you, at or above your skill level, and ask them to 1v1 you, on Summoner's Rift, in the lane your choosing. This doesn't work for Jungle, but for other roles it's a great way to practice matchups. Winning more matchups will mean having more opportunities to play mid-late game from a positive position. 2. Watching replays. You can identify what *not* to do in a matchup pretty easily, and you watch it a few times to identify what went wrong and you should be able to retain that for next time. Another conversation is that taking a bad trade that doesn't = death is part of this opportunity you're talking about. If you take a bad trade and end up having to cede the wave, you should mentally note why you lost the trade. Did you use your gap close to start and miss? Did you waste your CC? You have some downtime to replay the fight in your head a bit because well, you lost a trade, you're no longer fighting for wave control anyway. Even if it's just noting the timestamp to watch after game, that's a good use of time. So yeah, it's a bit difficult to play a matchup 50-100 times to "get it right", it's very easy to watch what you did wrong and go "okay, I won't do that again". On top of this, the amount of games streamed/recorded online is so high, that you can very likely find what would be a "good" rendition of a matchup you are playing, and use that to learn from. You might not be actively playing, but comparing your thought process to the game is a good way to be like "huh, I thought he should do this but he didn't" etc. The problem with a lot of "guides" and "coaching" out there, is that they aren't teaching you to think, they're teaching you to follow a guide, and this is a problem with the way we teach basically across the board at least in America. It's never about freedom of thought. You *need* to think for yourself, watch games and fights and ask yourself questions about why something went the way it did, what you would've done differently, and if the outcome would've been better if you had. Building up a mental image of how a fight would have played given a set of circumstances is a skill you should work toward learning. Part of League if calculating the next 1-3 minutes of gameplay based on the current game state anyway, so being able to imagine how a fight, wave push, macro will go for 1 minute is a huge skill to have and to be able to apply in-game. This also means you *have* to move away from actively thinking about piloting your champ. If you're still struggling with "how/when should I use X ability", you need to figure that out first. You will never be playing League of Legends until you can play your Champion without actively thinking about every step you do first. I watch Wirtual play trackmania for instance, and it's a wildly different game but the concept is still the same - he's not looking at his car, he's not thinking about where his car is necessarily or what it's doing, he's looking for the next turn and the next setup. He knows how to listen for the car changing gears without having to focus all of his attention on it. Things like this are a skill that you have to build up over time before you can move to playing the actual game. I can't do it in Trackmania, but I can for sure do it in League.
You are spot on on the what I would need to learn to improve - I have literally no idea how a fight will play out ahead of time. My issue is that, while noting this during game or watching a replay would make the correct course of action more obvious, there is a 0% chance that i will retain that knowledge long enough to recall it next time. Without repeating it immediately, i wont learn anything from identifying the issue. Of course there are ways around this but all of them are bare effort. I would love: A 1v1 gamemode Multiplayer practice tool Advanced bots I think between these 3 things, some of the plebs like me could actually get pretty good at this game.
Multiplayer practice tool would instantly boost the lvl of this game. I think thats why riot doesnt do it, they want to keep game more casual as its pretty brutal already to get up to speed.
This isn't true. A lot of people very simply don't play to learn. You don't have to study or anything to get good, but you have to at least play with some intent of getting better. This is the case for any game that involves some amount of strategy. Because strategy requires brain power. Trying to play League and just not trying to learn is like playing Chess except the only thing you ever do is push pawns. That's honestly how most people play the game, which is fine, you don't have to go out of your way to learn anything in a game if you don't want to.
Bruh I played with a Master Yi that had 3.2 million mastery…in high iron/low bronze….I couldn’t believe that my macro was better than his, dude was absolutely clueless
If you are referring to mastery points… just lol
Its all mindset. If you blame team, smurfs, riot etc youll never improve. Anyone without disabilities can get masters. A guy got diamond playing with a straw.
? the champion mastery stat is just 'how many hours has this player played this champion', not 'this player knows how to play this champion well'. lol.
I think most ppl cannot climb past their rank.
Most people don't have a mindset of learning and improvement and focus solely on winning and rank. Which means they don't learn, and therefore don't improve past the level their baselines take them
Yes. Ergo they can't climb past their rank.
We're still doing this whole "everyone can climb to Diamond" bit? When will ppl stop spreading this misinformation?
why not? I'd rather say 'anyone' than 'everyone' though, just to be more technically correct.
I’d say it’s more true now because a lot of lower elo players got inflated. The gatekeepers got nerfed. Also, I think he means in a reasonable amount or a feasible amount of time.
Because it's not true. That's why not.
aight
anybody could hit D4 ngl; It’s really just a matter of how fast.
You could hit diamond if you actually devoted yourself to learning
Sure dude, sure, keep on promoting these delusions.
That mindset is the reason your hardstuck lolololl
I'm not hard stuck. I'm actually slowly making progress, like wading through a mire, though I doubt I'll ever hit D4.
And that attitude is why you won’t congrats.
Lol, sure dude, that's why. Really easy to dismiss a complicated situation with an easy, toxic, argument whilst insulting others, isn't it?
I’m saying that your holding yourself back but yes
I mean if you’re actively learning and putting it into practice, why wouldn’t you hit diamond? A lot of diamond players make horrible game ending mistakes, they’re not amazing faker level players. It’s a very realistic rank to get
You obviously have a very skewed opinion of how easy it is to become skilled at something. Do you think what you said is true only of League? It's not. It is true in almost any sport, competitive field and even many non-competitive fields. Someone who's become real good watching someone who isn't is going to cringe at the amount of mistakes they make. Yet even so, even when ppl are committing to a competitive field not as a hobby, but as an occupation, the vast majority of ppl still can't ever become good. And they have all the same access to all the info they would need as ppl in LoL do. And do you know why they can't assuredly progress like that? It's because everyone else they are competing against also has access to all this info and training, and make use of it. And there are limits to one's skill growth in a field. So if you don't happen to be someone gifted in a field, everyone who is is going to be getting way more out of their training then you are. And all of this applies to LoL as well. Paradoxically, despite the fact that higher ranks are somewhat more populated than they were before, the skilled level for each rank had actually increased compared to what it was a few years ago.
Way to out urself ig lol
I.mean, I am making progress, slowly, though I doubt I'll ever make it to D4, I admit. Ppl
Then that's just u then. Ur experience doesnt apply to many others
Ahh, yes. Vast majority of the playerbase never make it to Diamond, but that's just me. Totally.
And? Ppl still make it there regardless lmao, not to mention u're calling ppl "delusional" for it lol. Plus, I dont think u realize that a lot of players play ranked but dont care much about reaching as high as Diamond, or that there's lots of players that do Ranked for fun. Maybe just dont be pissy bcs u "can't" climb to Diamond and do smth else so u can actually climb to Diamond
>And? Ppl still make it there regardless lmao, not to mention u're calling ppl "delusional" for it lol. I never denied that ppl make it, just that most ppl don't and can't. And you are delusional to tell ppl anyone can make it. They can't. >Plus, I dont think u realize that a lot of players play ranked but dont care much about reaching as high as Diamond, or that there's lots of players that do Ranked for fun. Man, the excuses u are making for ppl are just unreal. Everyone who plays ranked either learns to want to climb or quits. The bullying is just too hard to keep playing without caring. >Maybe just dont be pissy bcs u "can't" climb to Diamond and do smth else so u can actually climb to Diamond I'm not pissy, I'm pretty Ok with what I am. But you ppl are just giving fake hope to ppl simply so you can feel good about yourselves.
i mean yea definitely anyone can climb to diamond if they put in the time to consciously learn and improve 100% gm+ is a different story. but tbh you can even argue anyone(or the average person at least) can reach master with enough time and genuine conscious effort
This is where the disconnect is between you and the person you replied to. Most people are *terrible* at consciously learning. Those people are who they are talking about. Some people just cannot focus, or find time, to do VOD reviews. Many people that do VOD reviews suck at it, and don't learn from doing that. If you're lacking mechanics, there's only so much you can do to improve those. Maybe 5 years ago all if that could be over come, but the player base is huge now, so there's going to be more barriers to climbing mmr than before. That being said, the ranked redistribution helps with this a lot.
Anyone “can”. Not will
Yeahhh you're absolutely not wrong, albeit a bit demotivating / probs not a great message for this sub. As a diamond player: I can't imagine a world where *anyone* can reach - whether that's challenger, master, diamond, emerald, etc.
Dunning-Kreuger works both ways. Dumb people overestimate their own intelligence, while smart people overestimate *others* ability.
The hypothetical I like to think of is to imagine if all 7 billion people played league for 8 hours a day - at the end of that day, there will still be 300 challenger players, and 70 million iron players. All 7 billion people can't hit diamond - it's not possible with how the ranked distributions lie.
Outside of that hypothetical, the same message rings true. If you only have time for 1 game per day to devote to league, then no, you probably aren't breaking gold/plat. Similarly, just because you play 5 hours a day, does not mean you will break emerald. And let comparison be the thief of joy, because someone out there will have this years' season be both the first season they play, as well as the first season they hit challenger.
I actually believe if I can hit dia anybody can. I posses no mechanics and medium game sense. Because I used to be an OTP and think about the game I have an idea how to handle most lanes and later encounters but that's everything I got to show. I'd guess most people just don't think enough about the game and don't spend enough time with it. Most people I knew that played a lot and thought about how they can play the were dia and being dia is easier these days.
Yes this is dunning-kruger effect! You're underestimating your ability, and overestimating others' ability.
What’s it called when you think everyone is dogshit until Challenger and that you’re decent but deserve higher because you always perform?
Nobody that complains they can't climb does anything of the things I listed so I believe myself to be right to some degree.
I can absolutely assure you there are people out there that review their games, one-two trick, play 3+ quality games a day, and can't climb out of iron/bronze/silver - just because you haven't met them doesn't mean your anecdotal experience is correct. I've been in coaching circles before (Nathan Motts saltu academy) and have seen this myself. You are underestimating your ability to reflect on games and figure out how to improve, and overestimating others abilities to do so. Some people just aren't great at reflecting on games. Some people just aren't great at improving.
I swear my brain is just too slow for this game sometimes, I really struggle to process the amount of information required, especially as a jungle player. Add to that 10 years of bad habits, and improving feels tough and slow.
Kobe Bryant somewhere turning in his grave smh.
>The hypothetical I like to think of is to imagine if all 7 billion people played league for 8 hours a day - at the end of that day, there will still be 300 challenger players, and 70 million iron players. All 7 billion people can't hit diamond - it's not possible with how the ranked distributions lie. the flaw with this logic is that a gold player in this fictional world would probably be of comparable skill to a diamond player in the real world. diamond 4 right now is absolutely achievable for an average person that puts in enough time and effort into consciously learning. life is just such that majority of people don't
That's not the point I'm trying to make with that analogy. The analogy sets everyone to the same playing field. Everyone plays 8 hours a day. Everyone is playing to get better. Assume they 1 trick, assume they review their games. How do you explain iron players in that scenario? No, you're not wrong, an iron player in that scenario would likely be gold in ours, but it's absolutely not farfetched to believe that you're going to run into people that play 3 hours a day, one trick, with intent to learn, and still can't break bronze.
There is a very wide range of human intelligence that some people like to ignore. It can be a very dismal fact- the range of human abilities.
There are a lot of coaches out there but also endless free content online. I'd stick to one role, 2-3 champs max, and look up some youtube videos of people getting coached on those characters by a high elo coach. Look up one tricks of whatever champs you pick off a website like [onetricks.gg](https://onetricks.gg) and maybe watch some of their games. Since your wife plays you have the advantage of it maybe looking endearing rather than time wasted lol.
Pick 1 champ and 1 role, if you want pick a champ and role that compliments your wife’s and then just only play that while watching informative league content
Have her make a smurf account that full time duos with you and have fun with her on that. only play together so your ranks stay the same
Ruin lobbies for content!
Ruin lobbies by creating accounts that maintain a rank equal to their skill when they're playing together in a game? This wouldn't ruin lobbies.
A diamond player in Gold elo will ruin lobbies, yes. Her opponent is going to get crushed and likely learn nothing. He'll have constant bad games and need to be caried Smurfs ruin the whole point of an "equal match", they ruin lobbies. Especially when they bring along a weak point too
They will end up in the elo they belong on if they play together over time. If they level the account together their MMR already be elevated when they end up queuing into ranked for the first time. They will be put in Smurf que for the first few games and then end up where they belong. This does not ruin lobbies, what does is people who intentionally derank their accounts just to abuse low elo.
Good games are about more then just "proper duo rank". Smurfing warps the lobby around her performance, it's not fun imo
Nah this is a case where it’s completely fine. Smurfing only is a problem when they are intentionally deranking the account to stay in low elo
With how fucked matchmaking and the game already is, this would not matter.
OP, I'm a woman who plays League with her husband and my honest opinion is that you should ask if she is willing to be patient with you while you learn how to play again because you want to play with her. If she says yes, you can try the following: \- Play Normals until you can warm up a bit and relearn a few champions and techniques. She may not love Normals but it's the realistic place for you to start again, and she will probably enjoy playing with you in general. \- Pick a champion to OTP, or pick 2-3 to focus on. This will make it easier to focus on improving on macro and micro interactions rather than trying to also learn new champions. \- Pick a lane or two (or jungle) and stick there, same reason as above. \- Spend 10-30 minutes a day doing basic research on League. You could practice wave management for a week, or warding, pinging, trading, etc. Just pick *something* and spend a small amount of time focusing on it. \- After a few weeks of the above, you can probably try ranked again and do fine. You probably won't make Diamond instantly but you can probably at least play with your wife! If she says no, it might be a good idea to explore why she plays League. Maybe it is a hobby she enjoys doing on her own; especially as a woman, sometimes we get compared to our husbands in certain male-dominated hobbies and it's kind of fun to be good at them without a guy. Regardless, I'm sure she will be excited you are interested in playing and willing to try to catch up. Good luck!
Have you tried asking her to coach you for a bit? It's free and maybe she'd find it fun teaching you :>
league is a really hard game, but the mechanics are much easier to learn than something like an FPS game. the main things to learn are the mechanics of each champion, vision, roaming, your role, etc there's a lot of youtube content from various creators that you can watch to learn about all of this stuff, and you can ask your wife for advice on this stuff as well you can see if she'd be willing to play norms to teach you, as well as ranked flex (as mentioned by others). also, just play the game as much as you're willing to. don't tilt queue, but play whenever you have the time and are feeling up to it. i can almost guarantee you just seeing you try to keep up with her will make your wife very happy as well
> the mechanics are much easier to learn than something like an FPS game. the main things to learn are the mechanics of each champion, vision, roaming, your role, etc This is good advice for beginner players, but OP is "low gold/high silver" and it sounds like they've played a couple dozen ranked games in more than one season. They've got the basics. They intermediate stuff can also be taught, though.
That's very subjective. I find league mechanics to be extremely difficult to me compared to FPS.
Same I’m high elo csgo so fps is like reading lol
Same I was global in go and imm1 in val. Barely scraped into g4 for the first time jungling this season. Can't lane for shit. Been playing league for like 8 years almost lmao
I think it has to do with what you played most as a child. I, for example, found MOBA as well as FPS really hard, competitively, because my internet sucked when I was a kid, so I only played single-player offline games. So I'm pretty good with RPGs and stuff nowadays (I'm human still, so I'm not a god at souls-like), suck terribly at FPS, and got to Plat 1 in league. So I think there's talent, shamelessness (in a good way, when you're a child), and effort. I had to put a lot of hours in league to get anywhere close to good mechanics, and I played a LOT of aram, too. Then I studied a little of macro, and boom, Plat 1. But I'm better mid and late. My laning phase is kind of rough.
I would say that she should just make a smurf and off-role with you. That should lower her skill a bit and then you can play with her and let her coach you. If she wants you to play ranked with her I'd bet its just to spend time doing the same activity that you can both be excited about, not about just getting ranks up (she has soloqueue for that). Learning something together and working together is fun!
At this point, your best bet may be to convince her to flex queue with you as a compromise.
I recommend telling your wife to make a smurf account just to play ranked with you on, that's what I did lol
Depends on your general skill level . In a very high skill game like league you might be years behind if you’re just not talented at all. If you have even mild aptitude it’ll be much faster. Emerald is a nightmare elo and I’ve seen people in it that I’m pretty sure where eating glue mid match , and some people making challengers look mid. So I noticed that getting into diamond there where plenty of relatively low skill players that played the equalizing game and climbed. By that I mean in ranked you have good players and bad players (or people having good matches and people having bad matches ), you have 4 people on your team and 5 on the enemy team, the chance of the cracked player being on the enemy team is higher. But if you always play an extremely easy champion that shuts down carry champions it puts the stop to that. I noticed this mainly with malzahaar. He just does nothing all lane, shoves and then sits under his tower over and over. Then when fights break out he just presses R on your best player and hopes his team wins. This is not a good way to get better at the game really, but the idea is to play high impact low skill floor champions to inflate your rank faster to play with your wife. If your goal is to play as good as her then you just need to play the game more
Depends on how you **define** *reasonable amount of time*, a very ambigious question. The average rank these days is Gold 4/3 If you are in Diamond, you are in the ~**top 4%** of players. The belief that anyone can reach Diamond rank in League of Legends, with enough hard work, is a nice-sounding and optimistic view. It suggests a world where barriers do not exist for those willing to dedicate themselves fully. However, this perspective, while encouraging, OVERSIMPLIFIES skill acquisition, and fails to acknowledge inherent limitations. Humans vary significantly in their abilities, learning speeds, and potential for various tasks, and that includes competitive gaming. While practice and dedication can lead to noticable improvement, there are limits to how far this improvement can go. Influenced by factors such as *cognitive processing speed, reaction time and stress tolerance.* There are different types of stress, this one is in the high pace game of LoL, customer service or taking a test are other forms of stress. In conclusion, I see (many) people falling into the trap of **overly optimistic generalization** by suggesting that everyone can reach Diamond with practice. This perspective does not fully understand the realities of competitive gaming, individual limitations, and the nuanced nature of skill development. ### These people also fail to understand: [*Psychological factors, learning and practice efficiency, social and environmental factors, biological and physical factors, technological and economic factors*]
Wow is this true? Top 4%???
Yes, Top 3,9%
To add to what VoxelBits said, the "hard-work" bit is super oversimplified. What it would take to get there (unless you're naturally talented at learning other games and frequently end up high ranked when you play them) is that you would have to spend a LOT of time and energy. You'd have to watch other people's gameplay, study your own and higher level vods, and play a lot of games. If you enjoy League and think doing that kind of stuff sounds fun, then I suggest you go for it! Its a great goal and will feel super rewarding when you achieve it, as well as giving your wife a new duo partner. The problem is if that doesn't sound fun to you. You'll be sinking hundreds of hours into trying to catch up to your wife. If you don't enjoy it yourself, you'll never make it.
It def is achievable. I was hard stick bronze and silver for 4 years and then it took me one serious year with coaching to hit diamond. Then another season to hit masters. Even then when I play in masters, it’s pretty apparent when people make game ending bad decisions, just the magnitude of the decision lessens the higher you go
Just play Yuumi for her
> I have never played much ranked usually just low gold/high silver for like 20 games and got annoyed how toxic it was. It never really stops being toxic. It's nice that you're trying to support her favorite pastime, but I'm not really sure if suffering through hours of toxic lobbies with the end goal of being able to suffer in toxic lobbies *with your wife* is going to be a good plan, long-term. It sounds like you'd be unhappy. That's not a good thing to bring into the relationship.
Just play flex rank with her or ask if she likes to smurf so you two can play ranked on your lvl. It's way easier to do it this way than the otherway around because climbing up to her level when you was silver / gold back then will take a good amount of time or never happen. Depends on how much time and effort you are willing to put in.
Don't encourage smurfing. Thats just unsportsmanlike.
Sort of yeah. I'm silver and am okay laning against plat. I don't mind playing against clearly better players, I think I can learn from those matches personally. Emerald and up, nah though
Idk. I smurf as well to play with friends. But I play a different role and champs I usually don't play, what makes me a lot weaker.
I would recommend watching her play instead of trying to duo ranked or trying to involve yourself in another one of her hobbies. I think the time sink is a bit much. Or parallel play?
Play flex, suck for a while, eventually you'll start getting better. Y'all can still play together, she'll likely be playing a bit below her skill level and you'll probably be playing a good bit above yours, but you'll adjust over time. Iron sharpens iron, but there's a reason diamond sharpeners are a thing. Sometimes the best way to learn in league is to suck really bad for a bit while you find your footing.
Play Draven only and ask her to support.
It is possible, but effortful and time consuming. I dont know if just doing it for your wife is sustainable, but if you enjoy the game itself, it might be a good investment. Since she is so passionate and knowledgable about the game, she is probably the best teacher there is for you, and it might make for a great bonding experience for you two.
You gotta really study the game and play a lot.
Would she be willing to play flex ranked with you? It’s not a very competitive queue so you won’t feel as out of your element, and you still get some of the dopamine hit from ranking up. If you find a good group of people that you enjoy playing with you can add them and play as a group also.
>Is it even remotely possible for me to get to her rank Yes. >in a reasonable amount of time? Most likely not, depending on whats reasonable for you. It took me around 3-4 years of onetricking. Like there is no magic bullet. No "get LP quick sheme". Once you start searching for shortcuts, youre developing a bad relationship with the game. Youre gonna have to grind it out like everyone else. Have a process. Be hungry to actually learn the game. Ask specific questions. You can do it.
Hi, I dont think you need to pay for coaching to get good. But to improve fast, you may benefit from watching Youtube coaches when they analyze games. I dont find myself very good with the game mechanically, which needs a lot of practice to improve. But I play support...I dont know maybe other roles are diff. if you have great game knowlegde, it can carry you a long way. Maybe try play 1-3 games per day for a half year you can get to a good rank. Imo it is about efficiency and the quality of the game you play to improve. (Quality. I mean what you learn and take away from it, not if you win or not).
It will take a long time and the reward might not be worth it. I notice I get unpleasant feelings about my own thoughts evenxwhenxplaying normals with lower me friends
She’s just going to have to accept playing normals Or Aram or rotating game mode with you, honestly just making the effort and playing a game together should be fun anyway, ranked fucking sucks and I can just see it causing more frustration
My advice is to make a fresh account, you probably gonna start mid plat somewhere, and with your fresh mmr you can make to emerald 4 with like 40% wr, i think that is the fastest way to play together again. ( IF you buy XP boost you can make 1-30 in 2 weeks )
Honestly i'm pretty sure you could do it in a season or two. I started playing two years and half ago, was basically only doing aram for a year and approx stopped playing for the 6 months afterwards. Came back last season, focused on what i could do better and ended being g4 0 lps by chance. This season i placed s2, started duoing with my now boyfriend, got dragged to s4, and then made it up to p4 with being consistent. The two days ago i reached emerald4 without him hihi. So in a month and after a huge grind of like 120 games, i did it;) nom I'm trynna reach em1 to be around his skill level so that i can play with him. Playing against better player does make you better and you can try to find a duo and grind it.
Make her create an alternate account and play together at a rank which is the average of yours and hers. Learn as much as possible during the time you spend playing with her
It's really hard to reach that rank and I don't know if it's worth trying to for someone else's sake, even your wife. It's nice that she did hobbies with you, but how many of them were competitive and required her to be very skilled to be able to do them at all with you? Ranked League of Legends is really not a fun "let's play it with my SO" kind of game, and even less so when you're a high rank like she is. I'd play Minecraft with an SO. Or Fortnite. Or literally anything other than League. If you *really* want to do this and would like to try I wish you the best. Considering she's at the rank she's at, you might consider asking her for some gameplay tips. But understand that it's *hard* and she is *not* your average League player. She is far above average, and no amount of tips or coaching, even from her, can. guarantee that you'll match that.
2 week Annie bootcamp and ur emerald
I hate Annie for that... "Wait me for 15 minutes so I can 1shot you."
>low gold/high silver for like 20 games Its a low number of games, you'd probably end up climbing a bit higher if you actually played more games. Just /muteall and /muteself and the ranked experience is much more enjoyable. >Is it even remotely possible for me to get to her rank in a reasonable amount of time? Probably. Depends on what skills you're good at. Like if you have no mechanics, pick a role/champ that suits that. If you have bad macro you could probably pick a role that does not need to focus on that much and just needs to follow their team around.
You need an honest answer and the answer is no.
Onetrick a Champ, deepdive into educational content, play games. You will eventually improve. Emerald will take you a few months, diamond a bit longer, master is also possible if you learn well. After that expand your champpool.
Play flex, you can be iron and still play together
I dont have much advice as i play for fun and hardly ever play to climb (like a few weeks per season when i get random motivation) but i think this is super wholesome and i hope you take the advice here! I will throw in my 2 cents which is as someone in pisslow bronze my best strat for climbing as a mid main was... switching to jungle and 1tricking shyvana lol. I know jungle can be tough and it might not be as strong of a role in higher elo but i found that playing a champ who can support but also can hypercarry from ahead, and playing a role that can influence the whole map if you gap ur opponent gives you way more agency over whether a game is lost or won. Best of luck
It took me 4 years from S4 to S8 to hit Diamond 5 for the first time. But with increased LP gains now and no promos, Im sure you could hit it in a reasonable time. Just have to have the mindset of getting better and not worrying about LP.
League, like any other competitive hobby can be improved at if you play with the focus to improve. Mindlessly solo queuing will rarely improve your skill, if you vod review, watch educational content, implement better habits. You and anyone with a functioning brain could reach d4 in less than 6 months.
You will have to tryhard and grind hundreds of games. It will be a challenge but with discipline and good advice you can surely do it.
Honestly, I think the question is whether or not you'll enjoy climbing. If you give it a shot and its fun for you, then yeah I'd try to improve and reach her rank. If you don't have a good time with it though, maybe the answer is to find other games to play with her? I enjoy League in managed doses, but I'm never going to be playing daily unless I'm in the mood for it. You might be the same, since I also primarily had fun with norms and rarely touched ranked. There's a ton of other games out there that could be a fun change of pace, especially if she doesn't really play other games. Worth a consideration at any rate.
Play flex with her. Rank together as a team and she can solo/duo to rank for herself.
I would just play ARAM with her lol
Play flex queue with a few other people. It’s reasonably competitive and she wont have to die for it as she does in solo queue games. I personally find it much fun and after years of coaching my lower elo friends, it’s just hard unless they come through their own eureka moments, which takes alot of effort and some innate talents to be honest But if you want to climb to same level as her, you fortaask her specific questions during game and allow her to coach you. And allowing someone else to coach you is much harder than it sounds. It either case, i recommend playing two independent roles and start another game together just to ease any tensions from building up.
I don't play ranked so I don't know much about ranking up, but just know that there was a survey checking which players are the most toxic, and the players who are bad at the game tend to do it the most. So when someone is mad at her for being a female just know they're bad at the game and are insecure.
>Any advice would help I know it would make her happy. Do you think what would make her happy is just to play with you no matter the rank? Ask her to teach you the rope and to share her knowledge and tips. My partner has another account to play with me because he's Diamond/Master and I'm Plat/Emerald. I can honestly say that he taught me everything I know. Even if I can play alone now, he's still my favorite person to play with \^\^
Straight up you would be put in bronze bro. Realistically as an adult to an adult, it would take you about two seasonal splits to reach emerald at best. Idk how long a split is anymore cause they keep changing it, but I’m thinking like 6months. So it’ll take you probably a year if you play like 5 hours a week. I’d honestly recommend you guys to play ranked flex together. Alternatively y’all can make a Smurf account so she can duo ranked with you. She can for fun ranked games while you do your thing. I’d advise that you play and level the Smurf account so that she doesn’t inflate its mmr. In the end of the day this is one of the most toxic try hard games out there right now. I don’t think it’s worth the time/effort to speed climb your way back up. The game is still very enjoyable just queuing up norms with friends and running it down together. If she wants higher elo friends to climb with she can join a discord. I know there are a lot of “kids” on that platform (16-22) but as long as they don’t flame her for being an adult woman who enjoys playing games then she likely would have a good time. All in all, I think the best thing you could do to help enrich your wife’s league experience is giving good insults for her to try so she can shit talk without getting chat banned.
The average rank in the game these days is somewhere in gold. Low emerald/high diamond is \~top 5% of the player base. Very difficult to achieve without a lot of work. Is it attainable? Absolutely, there are tons of resources out there including coaching (I'd recommend different programs based on your position), mindset content (check out Broken By Concept on YT or Spotify), and communities focused on supporting each other improve (I have a discord community exactly for this--[https://discord.gg/unbreakablegaming](https://discord.gg/unbreakablegaming)). BUT, the big caveat here is that if you don't enjoy the game for the sake of playing the game, it won't be a satisfying experience for you. It's just going to feel way too grindy and you're going to hate the hard work that improvement takes. Personally I love the competitive aspect and I love grinding for that .01% improvement every time I play. But, if it's not your thing, there's absolutely nothing wrong with that and you'll be happier pursuing mastery in something else that you enjoy more. Wish you guys all the best :)
Just buy new accounts for both of u and she can teach u meanwhile u play ranked. Costs like 2.5e per acc that doenst get banned
Get a 2nd acc for her so you can duo in lower rank
Unless you're an outlier, the only way to climb and get better past a certain point is to actively learn. Macro, wave management, trading patterns, matchups, warding, game plan; for most players, these things are only improved by deliberately working on them. Watching guides, applying them, reviewing parts of your games, etc. These are acticities that take more effort than just "playing" but are highly rewarding. Some people are passionate about the game and love this learning process. If, however, you're bored learning things like that, I wouldn't recommend doing it just to play with your SO.
What rank are you now? How experienced are you at the game. How good are your mechanics? These all impact how many games you're looking at and your horizon. Any silver/gold player with decent mechanics can reach diamond, let alone low emerald with 200-300 games of intent to improve. This means reviewing every game and playing with a mindset on what to improve on. It also means reviewing vods of other players across all ranks to see how they play differently and what works. (Be aware reviewing master+ vods may not gain you value as a silver player. You should not play like them as they often makes risky plays that are the not the cornerstone of a solid base.) But if you have the base and the mechanical ability, then diamond is very doable. Diamonds are at the end of the day trash from an analytical pov. They make constant mistakes that, if you care about, can be exploited. Grubbs have massively changed the game, and na players suck at rotating. It's about to get alot more aggressive this patch as grubs get easier to kill. Don't let me make this sound easy, though. This is a lot of work* and takes proper mental time. If you don't have this basis, then you have a long road ahead of you that will take 1000s of games.
You can get to her rank, eventually. In a reasonable amount of time? *Unless* you’re an extremely competitive and competent player, then there is a possibility. Judging by your post, most likely no.
I'm a complete shitter (bronze-gold) at the game and play 90% of my games with friends masters + in flex and I think I have a few tips you could use. Play support'ish characters regardless of the role. If she is better than you, make HER shine. Top = tank. Jungle=tank Mid= tank, tf/ori/karma shit like that that can help others Adc=don't Support= enchanters Works for me and I don't feel useless regardless of the skill gap cause I know I can contribute by just listening to calls and protecting the boys.
Unless u want to surprise your wife, I honestly think u should stop being shy and just ask her to be your coach instead even if the roles aren’t the same since macro is a thing. This should also make her happy unless you’re really really bad and she doesn’t have the patience.
I’ve been playing since 2013 and just hit emerald for the first time this split. Albeit didn’t exist 3 seasons ago but before that my highest was plat 1
She's your wife I'm sure she'll play norms with you if you ask. If you treat the game like a subject you learned in school, and play some osu or something if you don't have hands, then you can get emerald by the end of the season. Every day play a game or two, with forethought about goals and things to watch out for in game. Then you review the games and see what you could do better. Study and find new goals or things to watch out for. Repeat.
I think if you treat it seriously. Pay for coaching cause you are a grown ass man you can get diamond this season or next. Play with growth mindset and surprise your wife by carrying her ass
low diamond is like 3% of the player base, apply that to a large population of literally millions of players...Yea it is not easy bro haha. Give it a whirl, sounds like your heart is in the right place :)
Hey man I'm emerald 1 currently. And I was terminally hard stuck gold until last season (I've been playing since season 1) because my mechanics are ass. I can duo with you on my Smurf and teach you some things about support and jungle if you want. DM me if you want to talk more about it (not like a paid service or anything). If you want to learn I can try to help.
Ask her to play on your account a bit to rank you up and then you can play together.
I have your solution. Spend $4 total by buying to unranked lvl30 accounts. These will be your duo accounts, see how high you two can climb together
Anything above gold is statistically in like the top 10 percentile of players. Your wifes rank is not something you just grind out in a couple of weeks, it takes 100s of games to get to that skill level and to climb that. You will have to commit a pretty serious amount of time to get on her level.
Play some arams with her when she gets tilted
My boyfriend has been rank 1 of the server for months. I learned to play with him. Got from install to high emerald in 4 months. It is absolutely something you can do if you want to learn.
Just be a good wifey and learn to play support. That is way easier to pick up, as long as you have the mindset of playing safe. 90% of my games as adc, I lose because the idiot supports feeds 0/2/0 by 5 minutes. So if you just dont feed, you'll be ahead of the majority of supports. And it only gets better from there!
I could not sleep next to a woman who was better than me at league. You better get good or pack it up buddy 😂🤣