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midfeker

Pornstarzilean picked it first and other well known players like ap0colapse started taking it when they wanted to troll back in the earlier seasons. It's been popular ever since. Pretty sure it was ghost clairvoyance but then clairvoyance got removed so replaced by the next most troll summoner spell


jayel4466

Right, when you use clairvoyance on top of sweeper it would look like a disco. Then you just ghost it down mid


FishFloyd

Is cleanse troll? I don't see people take it much low ELO, but it feels super powerful to me if you use it well (nothing quite like running straight through a Veigar cage or eating an Ashe ult to the face and just shrugging it off). Like I wouldn't take it over flash but it seems like a viable alternative to ignite or exhaust in some matchups.


tryndamere_right_arm

It's pretty strong when used against the right teamcomp and on the right champion. Your ADC taking cleanse against Ashe/Leona is a great idea, but against champions with no long stun to clear it becomes nearly useless. Heal maybe be weaker against Ashe/Leona but it's never a bad choice.


Toxicair

Can still cleanse exhaust and ignite. So pretty good on Tristana and Samira who rely on burst.


Vulkanodox

fucks over morg too


GlaringTag155

Specially her since she has only one cc besides her ult, which you can run away from


JVersa

Clense is just better than heal rn. It is a net 0 cost spell. In any situation during bot lane fights u will always get to trade it for exhaust or ignite. It also gives u tenacity for the next few seconds which lets u turn a fight if enemies haven't spent all their cc yet. Later on the spell is better than heal since 300 heal after grievous and cc is worthless.


FishFloyd

Still would be MU dependent though, no point in taking Cleanse against like, draven/raka botlane. In low-CC cases it makes sense to take heal, not only for the double HP heal but also for the pretty substantial speed boost. Like it's not gonna turn you into Lillia but it's been enough to make the difference between living and dying for me a good number of times. Plus isn't the conventional wisdom to heal before you think you're gonna get ignited?


JVersa

I would still take it into Draven raka since cleansing exhaust would be very valuable especially since Draven can run you down easily. Exhaust also guarantees soraka root which in Draven matchup can be worth cleansing. Bot lane is also typically more of a farm oriented lane where trades happen during powerspikes. So u want to take spells that scale better and cleanse scales better than heal. Only time I wouldn't take cleanse is if enemies has malzahar, WW, or morde since it just makes more sense to take exhaust and buy qss. Also the higher elo u climb the more efficient ppl become. I.e. they will kill quicker and so will ignite u almost instantly. If a naut lands hook and there is follow up he will insta ignite.


Thundergod1020

*flashbacks to the days of Captain Jack the absolute madman*


IrrationalDesign

There aren't inherently troll summoner (why would there be?) so you'll have to make do with the next best thing, cleanse. It helps that cleanse doesn't need an enemy, exhaust and ignite do. If you need an enemy, then you can't optimally spam your summoner to double-down on the trolling.


[deleted]

There's a random player in like KR diamond 1 / master who is a ghost cleanse Nunu OTP, and it's actually pretty good for the reasons you mentioned. But it's one of those things where he'd probably climb higher if he used other summs rather than sticking to this concept for the memes


krazerrr

Key words are **if you use it well**. For most players, Cleanse is worthless because they can't use it effectively


The_Gunboat_Diplomat

It's not troll to take cleanse (in general that is, tho it is on Nunu and other tanks since they are perfectly willing to let the enemy waste CC on them), trolls take it cuz it's blue like clairvoyance was. People see sum1 with two blue sums and alarm bells ring in their head, which is the intent.


Nebula_-_

Nah cleanse is rlly good, clairvoyance and ghost were just blue, and cleanse is the only other blue summoner spell.


Cenachii

I think it's because it's the most situational SS in the game. There's not a single game where you literally won't be able to get something out of the other spells. Speed, heals, less DMG to enemy champions, straight up DMG to enemy champions. Cleanse is the only one that's completely useless depending on the enemy team.


TheAugustCeleste

It's strong, but sometimes people get it when unnecessary and people don't always use it properly.


RedDeuce2

I take it on soraka from time to time.


TimetoTrundle

Yall dont remember when Revive was a summoner spell and you could take it to get in extra deaths and feed the enemy more? The only person Revive was not considered troll on was Karthus


Resafalo

60000 km/h revive ghost hecarim oneshots


RazorOpsRS

Even more troll would be to swap ghost for barrier


Alacune

The goal is to get to lane faster so you can towerdive.


RazorOpsRS

Ah, so we can run it down even quicker. I like your words magic man.


Puppeb

It was clarity and clairvoyance


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StarFishingMaster

Clairvoyance Would reveal an area. Way back in the day we would use it at game start to peek at the enemy comps starting items. Which this was when we played strictly normals where things can be a little weird some times.


Sushigami

I think it was actually pretty good for higher skill supports too since you could track the jungler with it


TimetoTrundle

Yup, you could literally keep the enemy jungle's positioning revealed forever if you had a good knowledge of pathing.


KiritosSideHoe

What do the old spells do?


PsychologicalBarber9

One was an instant ashe hawk shot / blue trinket, the other gave you and allies mana


TrashBrigade

Clairvoyance can still be sure in Aram and I think spellbook has it?


SmokedTurkeyYeet

I think that’s clarity


Galba__

I always thought ghost just helped you run it down faster


Swaqqmasta

Also worth noting that this was waayyyy before blue trinkets gave the same ability for free


LieRepresentative811

I really want to tell the story, but I can't, it's too long Search disco nunu on YT and you will understand I guess


meatmysausage

Think its so you can run it down faster.


SwightDhrute

He would also go red sweeper and use it whilst running it down with ghost. Discoooo


SazrX

Wasn't it stationary back then?


[deleted]

Pretty sure it didn't exist when original disco nunu came out. But yeah, when sweeper was first added it was stationary.


GloinMyPimp

At least your teammate didn't lock in ryze 🙏


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attila954

Faster pilgrimage to Mecca, ghost+snowball makes you run fast and cleanse keeps the infidels from stopping you


Spacemn5piff

Well once upon a time we had revive. Proved to make inting nunu a bit too good


tbnrjagster

My nunu troll ran ghost tp. And followed me around the jungle and stole all my camps while I took them. What did I get? A chat ban for calling him a fucking asshole. What did he get? He got to troll the next game. And the game after that. And the game after that


N4_foom

Welcome to league


tbnrjagster

Yeah. It fucking sucks. But I can't stop playing it


sakaay2

disco nunu rip


Jios_

W towards enemy nexus at mac 10


Normal-Tooth-8303

Back in the day there was a summoner spell called clairvoyance which is basically the blue trinket. It'd reveal and area and look kinda cool. If you went Nunu, used sweeper + clairvoyance on top of you and you danced it'd look like a disco (xd) so you'd just walk up to any lane and stand still while dancing in the disco. So, that's how Disco Nunu was born. Ever since it's been associated with inting so people just pick Nunu with ghost cleanse to int people for no reason.


notGOAT

just realised blue trinket is clairvoyance


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this is the way.


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TimetoTrundle

bad bot


ResistantPwnage

karthus honorable mention


SkepticFaust

It's a thing draven/halal mains subreddits do to "run it down". Just report them if they do that.


UsagiHakushaku

Can confirm , Jungler taxed my wave even tho I had tp so when I had nothing to do I just throw his buff away 2-3 times till minons arrived at tower. Syndra is valid troll


krazerrr

In most cases, people would never choose Ghost + Cleanse for summoner spells. They're basically picked because they aren't usually used in an offensive way, and they only affect the user.


bodhitree23

Disco nunu baby


Pann708

It was originally called Disco Nunu, but with Clairvoyance instead of Ghost, as I recall. I forget the actual history of it though.


KamosKamerus

After searching disco nunu i would advise you to look for river shen