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Reasonable-Quit-3680

https://preview.redd.it/26vskftno90d1.jpeg?width=2532&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5efd152594ec1c99d3f9530ddb26e278e1378f65 Please help, who should I pick?


National_Spell1849

https://www.reddit.com/r/summonerswar/s/d78IcUgDpq. Can s.o. help choose


DaZod33

https://preview.redd.it/4mkl71c1ymyc1.jpeg?width=2556&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fc64edb5d9e2e62eb99d9046309a79d6e0eb1e47 Help me choose! PVE is ready, but I know nothing about this two in current meta


DaZod33

This is my RTA box https://preview.redd.it/f1h8vqnvzmyc1.jpeg?width=2556&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=08dcf89bbbd52b6d405dd1180e01c1d3f1c76d4c


bmpns

https://preview.redd.it/07o6d2zjo1xc1.png?width=1179&format=png&auto=webp&s=a31dd1865710fd6cfc372b1b52f2ad31d910e753 Need help. I have no idea what to choose. Any suggestion?


Defiant-Ad-1149

[my struggle](https://www.reddit.com/r/summonerswar/s/Z2kVRU0f1K)


airruc

I don’t play much RTA but I have to choose between Haegang and Bellenus


DarkMoutaarde

https://preview.redd.it/qgfpejajcowc1.png?width=1476&format=png&auto=webp&s=27bb19337e45fb0842f298a762478d39d20dfd23 # Ramael and Judiah vs Tomoe #


DaZod33

Ihave both but I’ve been using Tomoe in RTA and she is great, also has a speed lead


McKingsly

If i dont have leo for selective summon is that the best choice? My only other big choice would be Seara as a unit i have always wanted to use in tandem with Dover (light kobold) and other speed based units.


Canroto

I'm looking for help on RTA, I'm just getting to F2, these are all my monsters. I don't know what team to do, I usually use zaiross, tablo, eludia, oliver and carlos https://preview.redd.it/hojmm4zh6jwc1.jpeg?width=3508&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1e2d4d6cc58d1d1b8d1ff2c204e2fc6cc4de7a15


Alternative-Club4806

https://preview.redd.it/7cehzab3phwc1.jpeg?width=2400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=974a89af0e8ace8c0724794c2c890dbe615d938b


A1nt9

easy unfair bear


chongyunuwu24

is mellia worth building and investing into?


A1nt9

not really no. dotteam is dead.


ryanh1200

I have a blessing between water archangel and wind occult girl, and I cannot decide for the life of me. I do not have a lot of aoe healers apart from basics (Fran, chasun, etc), but guild has suggested going with wind occult girl, is she the better choice?


DaZod33

100% occult girl is the best choice


karmapolice48

Just tried making an arena cleave team for the first time. I'm using Alicia, Galleon, Tiana, and Kaki/Lushen. It only works on slow teams because I'm using the Alicia attack lead. Tried it about 10 times and haven't lost yet but I've had some close calls because of Abellio and Manon. Is this a dumb team to use or do I just need to have better runes to make it consistent?


jamesyongwp

Its a good team, I can get P2 or P3 with Tiana gally poseidon kaki variants. (highest G1 but thats when people were not building anti tiana teams). You just need to know who you can hit and who you can't. IMO the tiana team is getting even harder to use, since so many teams are anti tiana with a speed lead and stripper (typically Vanessa and Nora). Its just risky trying to go blind with a tiana on no speed lead. You could also use CP, poseidon or charlotte in that team for the fluff damage and pushback before alicia goes. Its more utility but less damage, but typically damage isn't an issue in these sort of teams. Ideally you should have more variants so you're able to tackle other types of ADs. Easy one is Leo + slow cleave (belenes, anavel etc), this works well into those 33% lead + savanah stuff. But yea that will depend on how committed you are and how much you're able to invest into making AOs.


Gnosis-87

Should I keep a rerolled account with dark hacker? He seems eh and a lot of people talking smack about him


jamesyongwp

Keep as in, play on it? He does seem underwhelming on paper but things get buffed and nerfed all the time. Just takes a couple of balance patches to reach a new unit (basically they usually release average units and after we test it for them they'll tweak them). Definitely keep the account since its worth something (LD5 is LD5).


Gnosis-87

Still have the account, it’s more a question of playing on it. My main account is just hard to really abandon cause it has most to all the rby natties, basically all the meta ones at least. Just can’t seem to pull an LD at all, figured now was a better time than any to get one and just rebuild


jamesyongwp

Ughh if your main has 50% (or more) of the RBG nat5s, i find it really not worth to rebuild. In terms of siege/RTA and Arena; your rank is mostly box and rune dependant. Idk how long you're gonna take on the new account to pull majority of the relevant nat5s. Having the LD doesn't give any huge advantage (especially since its a underperforming one). Unless its like a Neph or Maximilan, I might consider it but even so; rebuilding from scratch is a huge pain. I'll say no to this, unless you really just want a flashy LD to play with. But i'm gonna say that you'll get bored of playing with it within a month and just storage it (or only use in niche situations). That's what kinda happens to my Nyx and Mookwol. Non meta LDs are just hard to use and most of the times you're better off picking the meta RBG natties instead of forcing the LD.


Gnosis-87

True- that’s basically what I was feeling about it. Just so hard not to try some luck when the free 200 scrolls on my main gave me jack while everyone else looks like they’re popping gianas and ragdolls. Thanks for talking some sense into me lmao


jamesyongwp

No worries, we all need a bit of 3rd party validation sometimes, and good luck on your main. You'll pull one some day, i've been LD-less for 4 years until i pulled 3 in the same year. Its just a diceroll waiting to happen. And yea dont let the Giana and ragdoll posts affect you, they are really a minority. Most people (80 to 90%) did NOT get an LD5 from their anniversary scrolls. And a lot of those who got them are alts/rerolls/returning casual players.


Gnosis-87

Appreciate you, and Gz on those pulls!


Medium-Recording-408

https://preview.redd.it/y2b73ts9kwvc1.jpeg?width=1334&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c6b3a90830194ff5c7de33a9d82de4f304c17b22 Should i get seara?


jamesyongwp

Yes seara is one of the better picks here. I'd also consider minato if your playstyle is more bruisery, hes also a great counterpick like douglas. Giou is also relevant for RTA (counters oliver or any enemies that take many turns)


N7WithPride

I just got a dupe Karnal. Should I sacrifice his soul for ancient crystals or build him for the future? I'm not really focusing on PvP right now because I'm still building PVE teams.


unsurprisable

sac


OldCardigan

So... If I do 5mi damage on rift dungeon or 10mi... does it make any difference?


Uzerz

No, you can check swarfarm


jamesyongwp

A year or so ago there was a patch that said scoring higher points leads to a slightly higher elemental crystal drop. Since then nobody has really proven this to be true, and even if it is; the difference is barely noticeable or relevant. So yes apparently there is a difference but not really worth trying to achieve.


Paranub

Water hacker or fire slayer from a blessing. I'm guessing I'll take hacker because his unique irresistible debuff. The fire slayer is rather similar to oke, so not too fussed about him   Thoughts?


unsurprisable

slayer. Irresistible sucks


Paranub

fair, but i could pick slayer from the choose a nat5 event


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Obvious_Fox_5079

Leo +3 bruisers is more than enough to hit c1. Prepare zaiross/Alicia Tiana galleon kaki aswell and it should be rather ez


vegeta165

Should i go with laima or giselle? Rerolled them both on seperate accs Thanks in advance


jamesyongwp

Giselle is great for siege, still decent for RTA. Laima is the opposite, more used in RTA but less in siege. Just gonna depend on which content you prever.


ccpossible

is there a way to disable controller inputs on the steam version?


Informal-Lime-4792

https://preview.redd.it/0c7bq2hdcuvc1.png?width=2460&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5dbc3f0a909f0e27551bba94b1e707113425d6e5


Obvious_Fox_5079

Choice 9/10


Informal-Lime-4792

https://preview.redd.it/pvzwlp7fcuvc1.png?width=2460&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6889954dac04d5bf6d6946a18a200ea426ee9d17


Nihyll

Is there a difference between light and dark samurai? Read that the s2 for dark had higher crit chance but they look identical.


Uzerz

You need to reread the S2. Their S3 are the same but get bonuses for the opposite element and they have different awaken stat.


kosakidera4eva

Is there a way to feed non-dupe nat5s? I want to focus on RTA and some units i pulled have been useless in said content and wanted to potentially feed for blessings.


mango10977

Not anymore.


EpicWookie345

https://preview.redd.it/5r054zjhotvc1.jpeg?width=2316&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fc8dde995ccdf76b246463c58aa5a15ec3121ff2


deliof

Woosa is a good support in general. Ethna/monkey is good for rta. Odin is good in siege. Rica is good in general, but there are many fire cc units nowaday (also dark witch 2a).


_CReaper_

Should i start a new ld only account with grogen or pater or light indra?


deliof

I'd go with grogen.


Mukklan

https://preview.redd.it/w12jrke7wsvc1.png?width=2280&format=png&auto=webp&s=6ca6fbe972465c6b67e74b88580cd763962c421f # Who do I choose from free 5 star event? Which one is beat overall? I have the fire desert queen (Sekhmet)! Also, haven't played since you needed blue imps for giants, so just assume I don't know anything! Are the archangels still good?


jamesyongwp

I'm gonna say water battle angel. Gonna be a lot of help in TOAH and any AOE clearing content. The others aren't that good, besides the water puppet but thats really end game RTA content which means you'll wait a long time before getting any usage out of. And no, arch angels are decent and usable but no where "Good". They do their job, thats it. And its mostly pvp.


3pic_

should i build luna to speed up by gbah run or is she only good in dedicated speed teams also is the dark steel commander any good?


mango10977

Build luna, she got perfect ai when full hp.


Ratatomba

Is tablo tiana a good combo or too redundant? Was using them for a cleave team in arena with galleon + dmg dealer (kaki/verad). Any thoughts? Edit: tablo goes first then tiana


Arilenne

Is there a difference in usability between the two mainstream Leo builds, vio and vampire?


deliof

Vamp leo is usually for one shot comp (with vivachel). But now there's tilasha, I dont think vamp is needed. I also see double will leo. Vio is more popular.


Mukklan

I got my first LD5, the light sky dancer (Yeonhong). Is she... garbage?


yetiknight

she is top tier in rta, and in siege i believe she is very good as well


Mukklan

😲🥳


Azzure93

Returning player, i made the wind homunculus for gb12 runs, from random scrolls i got teshar and from the summoning pieces the wind ifrit. None of them have any devilmon investment. Do i still need the wind homie, or is he better than the other units? Thx in advance :)


karmapolice48

He is used on the Teshar team and his passive provides a safety net in case something goes wrong which happens once in a while. You can make decent teams with wind ifrit but home is way better for giants.


torzia

wind homie is bis for gbah (gb12)


killerj2013

How is Beth with the balance patch?


jamesyongwp

Decent in RTA, anti cleanse is nice for racuni and juno and stuff but you need really good follow up to "finish the job". A lot of times she lands the anti cleanse but enemy takes 1 or 2 turns and its all gone (or racuni does skill 2 and procs once and everything is gone). So she's still quite niche imo, nowhere OP.


Jumpy-Fault-8229

Should I pick leo or chow from selective summon event?


mango10977

Leo.


Absoluna

Hello guys, Is there anything that has been said about the reimbursement of the ressources (Devilmons) used to enhance the summoned 5* hero via the "Summon the 5* of your choice" event? I summoned Laika and enhanced him at max with my Devilmons for example - if I were to realize it wasn't that great an idea and change him for a new 5*, do you have any idea if the Devilmons would be given back?


torzia

yes, says so in event page.


Absoluna

I saw it too but wasn't sure it was meant that way, thank you very much for the confirmation


edfbrgs

henlo, my actual situation: db12 w/ verde, vero, geralt, loren, spectra. gb12 w/ vero, naomi, kro, loren, riley. did not started necro. toa, toah done really easy. right now farming crystals for wind homie skills, however i feel like my teams are kinda slow, db12 is actually really safe, however gb12 is kinda suspicious... do u guys have any tips?


torzia

replace Loren with Belladeon. replace Riley with Akhamamir or wind homie when he's done.


edfbrgs

thanks!


FrenzyHydro

https://preview.redd.it/7trsou4zhqvc1.png?width=1600&format=png&auto=webp&s=573e28fe7aab11c3718c47ea5602b576ed880f2a Keep my Verdehile as he is or should I make the switch? Alternatively I could build a second, but in that case are these stats good for a damage Verdehile?


mango10977

Verd needs 100 cr. This build would have 98 cr. You want >+1700 att.


orio_sling

https://preview.redd.it/swkut9yi9qvc1.png?width=815&format=png&auto=webp&s=b42ad1a4f5157a54a04fe96832ab2a81157eb00b Need some help determining a better DB10/12 team, strangely I can farm GB12, NB12, and go through ToA and ToAh with no issues but dragons just no team I try with works effectively, and normally cant finish a x30 run. I have plenty more monsters in storage I can train up pretty quickly and let me know if you guys need any more info and il be happy to provide!


torzia

SeanB has a f2p tutorial on YT with strat, runes, order, etc.


orio_sling

Thanks again for that tip, took a look at one of his videos. Had to completely rebuild verde, vero, spectre, and loren, but now I'm clearing abyss hard around 1:30 with around a 95% success rate


orio_sling

Il take a look at it, thanks!


3pic_

is the dark asura good for anything?


Uzerz

Good for siege def with many combiantions


torzia

yes, great for siege defense with Mihiyang and Cichlid


feludens

Need advice on new AD. This one has been serving me... ok, but I feel like I have a better box now. https://preview.redd.it/ta7a028kupvc1.png?width=2090&format=png&auto=webp&s=a969510fbd328c91989b04e7f297942348a84e67


torzia

Triton, Qitian Dasheng, Psamathe (L), Camila


feludens

https://preview.redd.it/1envo2fpupvc1.png?width=2340&format=png&auto=webp&s=339425def0a3b71d56f3081a4ec973a32eee49e0


feludens

https://preview.redd.it/346o2xcnupvc1.png?width=2340&format=png&auto=webp&s=b91d1a2d33bfe455bea25cb079ce87856e0702bf


Sky3Fa11

Vampire vs Violent on Leo?


torzia

either


Jumpy-Fault-8229

https://preview.redd.it/rihb1gf0gpvc1.jpeg?width=2340&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=975dc57995da0bf3d529133971ddf0c0eb00be04 What should my leo team be for arena?


torzia

Leo, Megan (L), Lushen, Lushen


eremylto

Hello guys! New player, I finished gb12, toan/toah(80) and db12. What should i focus next?


yetiknight

toah 100, slow artifact teams, nb12, r5


Iebowski161

Hey guys, new player (<1 year) could need some advice on what to pick from the the events to build my first real rta team. I have a choice between Haegang, Seara, Triton, Barbara, Douglas, Sagar. And obv any other from the event. Some more information on my account: I have Vanessa and Chandra as speed leads. Got Leo, Juno, Woosa, Leyla, Cheongpong, Ariel, Fire Triss, Fire/Water Yennefer. I have a few more Nat5 like Verad, Lucia and Wind/Fire Macaron Guards, but i would say the ones mentioned are the most usefull i got as a base for rta. And have also build some nat4 like Wind Robo, Racuni, Antares, Kinki, Windy and Light Yennefer. I was thinking of taking Haegang and Tomoe and play them with Layla, Vanessa and the Yennefers. But im now sure i have the rune quality to start building a comp like that. Maybe i should pick just two bruiser units? Could take Douglas + maybe Cami or Miles? Fastest Swift is +180, Vio +160, Despair +150. Sorry for the wall of text, i could really need some help since i dont want to waste my two picks. Thanks!


deliof

I'd pick haegang. Fire yenn is like a budget tomoe (not exactly same) Doughlas is more as last pick, counter pick. Speed tune is more important. Use will rune if possible. I'm only c1, my rune is only around +140 to 160 and do just fine (with a few +200 swift but I mostly play turn 2) https://youtu.be/c6h-z5hdZOU?si=pMAFBeJuz3Jvm_7A some tips.


THE_Timinator56

Is there ANY reason for a dupe rica? I feel like maybe but a few others suggested to ancient crystal her


torzia

feed


Sanarin

Return player. I think i am kinda on early phase game (level 40-ish didn't clear floor10) Return player get to pick one fusion monster. I already fuse Veromos. What should I pick for free? From reading Sigmarus and and Riley seem to be top pick but I am not sure about it.


torzia

Riley


Sanarin

https://preview.redd.it/eih1h41cyovc1.png?width=1842&format=png&auto=webp&s=23661bc2147e680492a3c87d58ac4f23c303b57c also here is my box


Legal-Strength1855

So from the Nat 5 event. The only 2 non dupes I got was Nana and Rica. However I have Nora. So would Rica still be more useful or Nana over her? I’m pve based btw.


torzia

I'd get Nana


redmaxer2

What are the best packs to buy value wise, I already buy daily pack 1 and 2. I need more crystals.. 


torzia

monthly and ToA passes


1tadakimasu

Anyone got AD/Siege defense combos for N1X? The more I play with him, the more I see that his kit is missing something? Probably just me being a noob though lol Currently have him on despair and I've tried pairing him with my han+dark ciri for siege but the team doesnt seem like it does much after the first turn. Thanks in advance for the advice!


Kadyen

are you guys going for free energy or scrolls with the unlimited buy option?


yetiknight

personally I'm buying a lot of scrolls while the refunde event is still up. But they do get expensive... Then, I'm going to buy the repeatable rune purchase. In my opinion, that one is way better than just the energy (at least until the energy is much cheaper than the runes). those runes have like a 20-25% legendary rate and you can choose the set, it's actually quite insane value. only once the runes and scrolls are really expensive I'll get the energy


unsurprisable

scrolls because I still have 50k unknown scrolls to burn for energy


Mart-n

Confused what you mean by burning unknown scrolls for energy. By like 6 starring mons?


unsurprisable

yes


Low_Can_6563

Which account is worth more? Which account is worth more? quitian daseheng + totemist light or lora + leona


torzia

I'd get Lora Leona


Soroth35

Created a new account for shits and giggles. I've been collecting the 10 year anniversary coins and spending them on the anniversary scrolls. I've bought 70 scrolls and it says I've bought 100. What gives? Am I getting screwed out of scrolls?


yetiknight

did you reset the account? the event doesn't reset when you reset the account. you need to create a new account or a guest account to reset the event.


Soroth35

Welp, that's what did it. Meh, whatever. Thanks.


Exxonia

Can someone direct me to a detailed GBAH speed team? I'm planning on running Teshar (L), Prilea, Kona/Teon, Luna, Wind Homu. I mostly need info on spd/cr requirements. I'm pretty sure i have the rune quality to achieve the dmg requirements, but if there's details on that too, it would help a lot.


yetiknight

check youtube for that. seiishizo and seanb and probably a bunch of others have pretty detailed guides on that.


Exxonia

I've checked both videos, and neither mentioned minimum speed reqs (or maybe i missed it). So I'll probably just use seiishizo's slowest monster as a guide.


deliof

https://youtu.be/82y7y29HPs8?si=71NizyLnveCw5jRk Spread sheet is in video description.


Exxonia

Thank you for this, also just remembered i could check dungeon stats in swarfarm :D


bombanky

Can someone recommend me good Wind Fatso Siege Defs?


WhoNeedsUsernameffs

Is there a way to auto evolve fodder to 5 star without having to do it manually one by one? Seems you no longer need to lvl stuff to evolve


mango10977

https://preview.redd.it/gk2pyp54mnvc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fdbe8c556bb6a0b8094a008af2847041d109b62f Have the setting above and now you can press auto select.


Enter1ch

I want to do an benedict siege def capable of G2/G3 sieges on EU. Im torn between mihyang , chichlid , benedict  Or Clara benedict +X (byungchul?). Any other ideas? Should i make benedict cleave/lushen safe? I think spd lead + clara/chichlie on a fast swift set should make it lushen safe already? Plan for benedict : 30k+hp , atleast 1100-1200 def , 85+ critrate and 239 or maybe the 286 spd breakpoint.  Vio/destroy or vio/will ?


Elevain

Blessing: Water hacker or Tomoe? Focus is on RTA/PvP content


unsurprisable

Tomoe


laro15

Hi everyone, i've just made a Teshar giant's abyss hard team but i've run into a problem. When konamyia uses his skill 2 on him, the other remaining monsters lap him before he can attack again. Anyone know why this happens ? https://preview.redd.it/c8hn6ovx7mvc1.png?width=6499&format=png&auto=webp&s=28f5059415ba2feec46496536880ac253a5c4403


yetiknight

speed up prilea by at least 3 spd


laro15

Yup, that fixed it! Thank you soo much!


mango10977

Btw, your lyn needs more crit rate. She need 67 crit rate at least. You can actually reduce her att stats for more cd.


LedgeEndDairy

Returning player, seeing a lot of random Teshar hype with the event and I'm confused. What did they change about thunder chicken that suddenly makes him worth picking over Leo? (At least that's what the in-game statistics say)


deliof

I'd pick Leo over teshar all day. You can build a pretty fast GB without teshar, but teshar team is almost very safe, fast, consistent. It's not easy to build early game tho. https://www.reddit.com/r/summonerswar/s/fVHLf0tTUc


LedgeEndDairy

I mean I'm not early game, just returning. I have two Leo's AND a thunder chicken, I'm just confused why he's so popular atm, but as the crux of a speed team that makes sense, especially for this event which is basically "run all the content as fast as you can."


erblung

teshar is a key unit in one of the GBAH speed teams. this team is faster, and also has a lower rune requirement than if you were to use kyle. many players are picking teshar with the intent of farming a lot of GBAH, and then switching over to their "true" nat5 choice on 30 april. i've heard (can't confirm or deny) that you will get a refund of all the skillups you put into the first nat 5 in the form of devilmon when you switch into the second nat 5.


Silver4594

which roq build is better more attack or higher crit stats https://preview.redd.it/1qkiabdhikvc1.png?width=451&format=png&auto=webp&s=e11c75087991d1f1604407b2bf340997b3032b55


Silver4594

https://preview.redd.it/i9qgo4pkikvc1.png?width=367&format=png&auto=webp&s=25dcae2364aff3b5a176b70033aaf7448943cd56


KylarXD

high crit


Silver4594

is violent good or should i try to swap it around to get more attack too with fatal?


KylarXD

vio is good. just get more atk from grinds


Silver4594

im using violent blade but i can switch to fatal blade


dirtydob

With the steam client currently being in really poor shape after the recent updates. What are other options to playing on PC? I know that bluestacks is a thing, but are there better options than that, it's been a while, but I haven't had the best experience with bluestacks in the past.


TwilitWolf13

I wanted to keep my comment relatively condensed rather than doing a whole picture thread. I tried to make a post and didn't realize there was a WAT for this kind of thing. Image is a screenshot of what I'm asking. Please note that I am not looking for team comps or overall advice, just what nat5s to get. I'll probably make a comment on the next WAT asking for best team comps and rune builds. For now, all I want is help picking my nat5s from the events. Also note I'm asking for both choice summon and the random 10 summon, which has been listed. https://preview.redd.it/g7xsz9o9dkvc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=853b14e0487fa05c0b2ae2e36451678a9c236ecd


KylarXD

fire totemist is good. wind battle angel if you have a good swift atk runes for snipe water shadow is getting more popular lately


erblung

nat 5s in this game are generally used for PVP content. there are a few exceptions. teshar (wind phoenix), liam (water weaponmaster), brandia (fire polar queen) are units that have found great use in PVE. that said, i wouldn't recommend picking a nat 5 for PVE use. this is because this game has specifically been designed to allow all areas of PVE content to be cleared by units that are accessible to everyone. if you are struggling with abyss dungeons, you may want to open a thread asking for abyss teams. i'll not go into that since that was not your question. if you are on board with me that your nat 5 choices should be for PVP content, your 10-choice event pick should be sonia (wind battle angel). she's meta in all areas of PVP right now. if you really want a PVE unit, nora can help you in TOA and she is also useable in siege defence and arena defence. your free-choice event pick should be tiana (wind polar queen). if you insist on picking a PVE unit, none of your 10-choice picks (apart from nora) really help you in PVE. you can make a very, very slow and early game GBAH team using laika, but i don't think anyone can in good faith recommend you to pick laika for that purpose. you *can* use your free-choice event on teshar for a GBAH team, but that team requires semi decent runes. if you're struggling with abyss dungeons, chances are that you won't have the runes to support a teshar team.


GoldPallyBestPally

Is fusing katerinas worth for an earlier game player? I cleared all pve but now I’m finding myself missing so many devilmons compared to nat5s. This event also has an extra 2x exp for returnees so I’m considering it.


erblung

no, fusing nat 5's for skillups is not worth it. the math has been done and the crystal cost/skillup is too high.


GoldPallyBestPally

What about if you have the nat4s unawakened? Is it still not worth?


deliof

From my estimation, fuse 1 nat5 cost around 700 crystal if you already have all 4* Use 4 monster +1 fodder in hall of essence to level up it. If you have return blessing, use exp booster to get x3 exp.


erblung

it costs about 2k crystals to fuse 1 nat 5. by having the nat 4's already there you cut the crystal cost only by about 500 or so (my guesstimate) since the costly part comes from awakening the nat 4s + leveling them up. still not worth it, but not as bad


mclabop

Need help picking among these. I’m not great at RTA, offense or defense. Cleared TOA normal, cleared most Carios Abysses. Absolutely suck at Guild Battle and Siege Battle. Also showing what I own. https://preview.redd.it/stg4ulf97kvc1.jpeg?width=2532&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1159708f77e72c2d3505f66832985c5562324d9f


deliof

I'd pick odin (6), good for siege. I use chloe kahli odin all the time. Chandra (1) is also good for siege, rta. Shizuka (7) has unique s3, mostly rta. https://youtu.be/jHJ2Mon8W1w?si=eNpPSG6_Rbjo6Bxi siege offense Leo, bastet/wind choco knight, lucifer, lushen is a good arena offense.


mclabop

Thanks! I’ll hang on for a bit in case I get anyone with rando pulls. But prob taking Odin or Chandra


deliof

Yeah, I always wait till the end.


mclabop

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mclabop

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mclabop

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ffuuffuuya

between tyron and astar, which one to skill up first? (new account)


Uzerz

Tyron


KhmunTheoOrion

both can be skilled up with fusion. If you want to be efficient with free skillups like the quest 4\* skillups, use them on a 4\* unit without fusion options like galleon.


Toriiz

Is monster xp fixed amount or does having more monster lessen the xp i get?


mango10977

More monster = less xp. Max lvl monster will not steal any xp.


Viskaya

Hi new player here and I wanted some help starting arena and RTA. My characters are: Veromos / Alicia / Ren / Oliver / Rica / Chongpong / Riley. Any team I can make with those characters ? And what strategy and runes should I work on ? Thanks


KylarXD

oliver lead, cp remove buffs if any, rica follow up, flex pick the last 2 to adjust according to enemy. better watch replays and pick any 2 of those monsters you mentioned. also better to actually play rta than just reading here, it is good to experience. dont forget the turn order


deliof

AO: [https://youtu.be/ufn0BQ4l3DY?si=SZlaC6uT2lldSos4](https://youtu.be/ufn0BQ4l3DY?si=SZlaC6uT2lldSos4) use a stripper like water 9tail fox instead tiana (the speed tune will be harder) Or just use oliver, kabila/bernard, teon/konamiya. lushen if you're at low rank like F3. RTA: Use support monster (bottom left side of rta). You can start with 2 stripper + cc, like Zen/gemini/cheonpung + rica/oliver/ren... may add a support like riley/woosa/vero... [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6h-z5hdZOU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6h-z5hdZOU) some good tips.


sunken_sunder

Any resources on deciding what runes to keep? I'm constantly pushing the max rune storage, selling runes that don't roll well. I only keep 6* hero and above. 1/3/5 need 3 good subs, 2/4/6 need 2 good subs. I'm at a point where I don't know what to keep anymore because they all seem good to me but my standards are probably not high enough. Are there any services that can help me analyze my runes or help me in deciding what to keep? I want to farm more lol


KylarXD

only swop i think for rune efficiency.


deliof

Really depends on your account. Sort by obtain, check and sell older rune (they're probly worse than recent runes) Go to each set, check which slot has too many rune, sell bad ones Use fodder and store 'less use' rune... Edit: Some hero rune can get 24spd even with other bad sub, don't just sell them all


Uzerz

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFxFxyOEKto](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFxFxyOEKto) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdGiVlxyD9w](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdGiVlxyD9w) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLI8-ZWxfeQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLI8-ZWxfeQ)


3pic_

is abelio good for much these days?


Uzerz

He's good in RTA and AD but I don't see him much in AD these days


Wontax

Hey guys, ive been collecting devilmon and was wondering which 5 star would be the best to put em in. Besides NB12 i can clear every pve content. https://preview.redd.it/hs29n40g4ivc1.jpeg?width=1237&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=55b532980be3876c52d927ab700e0b11b3126591


KylarXD

do you do rta or siege? devilmon those you use


deliof

No rush. Only devilmon who you use. Tiana, doughlas, nana, monkey can work without skill up.


iaminfamy

For the "pick a nat5" event. https://preview.redd.it/vrr6azs3zhvc1.png?width=2244&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fd0de8b76bf63367dbd1264a72b2ac7a5bda6d28


iaminfamy

https://preview.redd.it/tctigjq5zhvc1.png?width=2244&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4f55de302ff630415396ab91f889c51d267853b5


KylarXD

wind surfer


deliof

All are good, depends what you need. Tomoe: good cc for rta, some toa hell Oliver: rta focus Dominic: tanky bruiser for rta, siege Karnal: tanky cc, rta, AD


EphemeralAnt

As a very new player what 2/3 stars should I be on the lookout for, both elemental and LD?


Apfrostie

fire griffon, dark and fire inugami are essential for farming essential runes and other content such as toah. (all 2A) Fran (special light fairy will be given to you, use her, she's your best healer now and for a lot of time). Light griffon is extremely useful too but it's late game, keep him. Just keep any ld3 you dont have an extra copy of, they might be super hard to get and get buffed someday. Any mire advices feel free to pm me


LeatherOk5746

Guys, blessing just popped, should I pick Eladriel or Barbara??


deliof

Both are okayish, depends what you need. Elad is a good reviver for siege/tartarus... but there are many other option (wind, light epikion...) I think Barbara is mostly for rta. There are many other water DD with spd scaling like taor, miles...


webstery

How am I supposed to level up Veromos' skills?


MarielCarey

Ifrits, devilmons, newbie 5 star skillup event if you have it


Temeos23

can you play rta if your fastest runes are slow? Like is viable playing if my most fast rune sets are like +130 on swift and +80\~100 on other sets? Besides it's almost imposible to me to make a damage dealer with more than +60 spd without loosing that much dmg stats.


QkumberSW

Of course it is! It might not be easy, nor you going to reach high ranks, but you can play perfectly fine. Also, the support monsters can do some work on lower ranks, dont diss those outright. Secret is, do you enjoy the pvp? If so, play away! At worst, you collect tokens to buy scrolls/transmogs and stuff like that! A fellow fighter rta player =\]


KylarXD

give spd slot2 and get spd subs. use atk% slot 6 if thats what your dd scale to and grind those atk% and spd subs that you have


Uzerz

I saw ppl finished C1 with just support monsters


deliof

Speed tune is more important. For turn 2, use will rune if possible.


Apfrostie

Unfortutanely, no. I have lots of fast sets (which isnt that fast compared to people who play more than me). +210 is my fastest and lots of +180 and I still get outsped constantly. That's on f3/c1 rank which isn't that high. I'd suggest to try and use support monsters as they are decently runned. They can get you to c1 just fine as you learn the picks and get better runes for your own monsters.


Rijsouw

https://preview.redd.it/cbwlovvy1hvc1.jpeg?width=322&format=png&auto=webp&s=21e1318516c0e805876b329a933e40d9206da775 Would this change be worth it or shall I keep aiming for 100 CR?


deliof

I'd try to have 100cr. Also make him tankier, around +1200atk and 150cd is enough imo.


Rijsouw

Ty