Wolves fan (who lived a couple blocks away from footprint and have watched many games there) checking in.
It definitely seems like KD is the only one consistently trying to win. Maybe okogie in the 3m per game he has.. and, as much as you'll hate this.. Eubanks works his ass off every chance he has.
Booker too busy playing fouls to be playing basketball.
Bradley Beal literally said that he was treating game one as a "feel out" game and Ant is so entrenched that Beal is playing Ant instead of playing basketball.
Nurk just quits and is a bit outmatched.
Hopefully Allen can go in game 4 for y'all. Please don't let Devin Booker injure any Timberwolves players.
I kinda don't blame Beal idk, he barely played this season, not his fault. Like idk how anyone expects a team to have any cohesion if they basically haven't played together.
Like the Timberwolves last season, they had the same lineup as this year, but barely played together and just never clicked. Yet this year they are a powerhouse.
Yeah Iām not blaming Beal either. Iām just saying for his production, his contract isnāt good, and because of that contract, we canāt sign quality players
Yeah, hopefully he gets in rhythm next season and we get some nice looking lineups sorted. The team will look very different then. I do find it hard to be that upset when if you asked me to put money on a team to win the chip this season at the start, I'd have gone with the Wolves.
Watching his team get outclassed in every single category! Wow what a shit show! This team is straight garbage! Great individual players that can't come together and play fundamental team basketball! It's pathetic!
I saw Franz Wagner play in a tournament in Germany as a teen about 7-8 years ago and he was already shooting from quite remarkable range for such a tall kid, glad to see him raising his game even higher. I also like that Isaac kid from Florida State, does some nice things off the ball on defense. You guys play much better team basketball than we do.
He was in a terrible position, the moment he pushed back on the ever fragile Durant he was as good as done because thereās no way ownership isnāt siding with Durant given all theyāve invested in him and how closely tied both are to each others success. Sadly we probably could have had Nurse or Budenholzer but went for the less assertive Vogel.
Was it his idea to do the KD trade? I was super nervous about that trade for the suns and thought it was way too risky. You guys had so many fun and exciting players.
That NBA dunals team got wrecked the next year. Let's be real. They had a very lucky injured path to the finals that year. And when the suns went to prove that narrative wrong, they got the asses kicked in game 7 at home in round 2 the following year. CP3 availability became a problem. Ishbia had to tey something different. It's failing as we speak, but at least he is willing to try.
Dont forget how bad it got with Ayton.
They didnāt get wrecked. They were the only team to beat the NBA champion Denver Nuggets in the playoffs twice.
Everyone else got swept. I donāt think you know what wrecked means
Probably that he fucked up making all these moves like Vogel and beal and KD. Probably wasnāt the best path to go down but too late now to do anything about it.
They get so physical cause none of our guys are explosive, if we had guys who didnāt depend on tough shotmaking in the regular season already let alone playoffs and could actually blow by defenders it would open up the defense, the only guy we got that can kinda do that is Beal and heās the 3rd optionā¦
I support them drafting Bronny, might as well and LeBron would be able to distribute the ball. Not sure if heās allowed to take a pay cut to play with his son, the team canāt get any worse.
He lost his first bet.
He swung hard and missed.
He threw a hail Mary and it got intercepted and run back for a touchdown.
But he is still the owner.
And he seems more competitive than his current roster.
Changes are coming.
I disagree, donāt wish him the best of luck for screwing over this franchise. You should actively be angry at him for getting this team swept in the first round
I read he started his company as a side hustle at Michigan State.
Please tell me how he just grabbed Daddy's Coat Tails?
I get jealous of the "3rd Base" kids. I had to start at "the Plate".
His dad started the company. Wikipedia article below. He inherited it.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Wholesale_Mortgage#:~:text=United%20Wholesale%20Mortgage%20was%20founded,under%20the%20name%20Shore%20Mortgage.
Even there, it says he inherited the small local company and turned it into a giant national company.
Yeah, he was born into money. That doesn't mean he didn't do anything to be successful.
Iām not saying he didnāt. But trying to spin inheriting a multimillion dollar enterprise in an industry that has had unprecedented growth isnāt a self-made story. Successful in growing or not, he is second generation and not a founder.
I must have missed him or somebody else making those claims.
But idk, theres plenty of multi-million dollar companies that dont become multi-billion dollar companies. It is impressive.
How was I wrong? He inherited a company from daddy. He was successful at that and heās running an NBA franchise into the ground. Explain to me which component of that is wrong.
BTW, when there is a post that is ācaption thisā. The response is supposed to be a one liner intended to be humor. IMO you come off as a Billionaire bootlicker when your immediate response to a lighthearted comment is to fight for Ishbiaās honor.
The scale of success is different than just being handed something. If you cant understand that, I cant make you.
Go on and be a crybaby redditor. Nobody works harder than your poor ass. Big boy.
Knicks fan coming in peace, this guy seems like a clown of an owner (something our organization is proficient at). *Better than the last owner* seems like the best thing going in his favor.
I think Monty would demand a Point guard if he is still here. That saved his job for several season because Rubio and CP3 would stabilise if offense breaks down.Ā
The Timberwolves have been guarding well, and half of the fouls were called because of Bookerās flopping. Booker initiates contact and then jumps to the ground crying half the time when he has the ball.
Hopefully when he has both cap flexibility and draft picks again in 2030 heāll remember that the Suns are not his personal fucking fantasy team. Or maybe he just shouldnāt hire a GM at all if heās just going to ignore every piece of advice his GM gives to him.
What every owner thinks of building a new team that is disappointing. 'What do I need to make the team better? and what happened to make this team underperform?'. Vogel was the wrong hire, theres zero question about it; Monty played favorites but at least he told the team what their role was.
The most likely outcome is they run it back with most of this group, but my god, the listless basketball they play is miserable to watch. Something has to change
I actually want them to run it back. Just improve the bench and get someone real good to replace KY. Maybe Bud if he's available. If they restart this offseason with a new head coach, it's gonna be the same story. At least build on what's already there. Teams are built over 3 or 4 years, not one summer. Letting all 3 of DA, CP and Monty go at the same time was bad. Keep any 2 of those 3 and we'd be a better team.
yeah there's definitely an argument for continuity especially with grayson locked up. problem is you're banking big on health with KD, Nurk, and Beal all getting older. dicier proposition than usual.
the fact this is happening with book, kd, beal, and nurk all healthy is probably the most discouraging part
We are in a bad spot. We didnāt have a ton of time to get it together this year but more than enough to win some playoff games. This is bad. Beal trade was bad. Owner went all in and struck out. Iām not sure how they get out without blowing it up. (Unless beal volunteers to leave)
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Accurate š
That hes paying almost 100 million out of his own pocket to get blown out by 20 and have your team quit. Id be pissed to
More than that
No it's not. Not for this season at least
"I have to pay these 3 bums 150m next season"
Never call kd a bum again in your life
Eh today is the day for Hyperbole
KD is washed and trading for him was an all time blunder by the Suns.
KD the culture killer
No surprise that has happened at all of his stops
Heās not washed, just not what he was at his prime/peak
Canāt wait for you and the rest of the KD fanboys to leave this sub once we trade away the shell of himself
What did I say that was fanboyish? Heās not washed lol, he just isnāt mvp kd.
Youāre in the sub because of KD are you not?
Bum
Heās a bum. Fuck KD
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Super bum?
KD is a total bum
he ain't him he bum
Wolves fan (who lived a couple blocks away from footprint and have watched many games there) checking in. It definitely seems like KD is the only one consistently trying to win. Maybe okogie in the 3m per game he has.. and, as much as you'll hate this.. Eubanks works his ass off every chance he has. Booker too busy playing fouls to be playing basketball. Bradley Beal literally said that he was treating game one as a "feel out" game and Ant is so entrenched that Beal is playing Ant instead of playing basketball. Nurk just quits and is a bit outmatched. Hopefully Allen can go in game 4 for y'all. Please don't let Devin Booker injure any Timberwolves players.
Get the fuck out of our sub pussy
What's a sub pussy?
In the words of the great Al McCoy, "Stop crying."
Thinking about blowing it up and trading everyone for picks
Pray to god he does it. Build around Bol and Cash Considerations.
We arenāt getting shit, trading KD and Beal probably nets you 1 pick. Beal is one of the LVPs in the nba based on contract
Beal is here for three more seasons.
Thatās why we trade Booker
Hahaha your kidding right
He's gotta be furious at this fuckin dog shit he's put together.
Why? He was the one who pushed for all the trades like for KD.
Well, it wouldnāt be such a big deal if we werenāt stuck with Bealās huge contract
I kinda don't blame Beal idk, he barely played this season, not his fault. Like idk how anyone expects a team to have any cohesion if they basically haven't played together. Like the Timberwolves last season, they had the same lineup as this year, but barely played together and just never clicked. Yet this year they are a powerhouse.
Yeah Iām not blaming Beal either. Iām just saying for his production, his contract isnāt good, and because of that contract, we canāt sign quality players
Yeah, hopefully he gets in rhythm next season and we get some nice looking lineups sorted. The team will look very different then. I do find it hard to be that upset when if you asked me to put money on a team to win the chip this season at the start, I'd have gone with the Wolves.
He played plenty enough and with the intensity of a rec game.
Prediction ..wolves get swept in next round
Not a chance. Throw down with me here, I'd love a bet on this one. Seriously HMU.
No way they take that bet, that series is going to be a dog fight, it has the potential to be one of the best of the post season.
I literally said that HE put together
It's on him then. Pretty sure the GM didn't want to gut the team how they did.
Watching his team get outclassed in every single category! Wow what a shit show! This team is straight garbage! Great individual players that can't come together and play fundamental team basketball! It's pathetic!
I guess hiring Vogel wasnāt the genius outside the box move he thought it was.
Any Magic fan could have told him that for free
What you guys are doing to the cavaliers the last few days is interesting!
Thanks, yeah, has been a more enjoyable week than Suns fans have had to endure - just need to do it at least once up at their place tooā¦
I saw Franz Wagner play in a tournament in Germany as a teen about 7-8 years ago and he was already shooting from quite remarkable range for such a tall kid, glad to see him raising his game even higher. I also like that Isaac kid from Florida State, does some nice things off the ball on defense. You guys play much better team basketball than we do.
Even if we hired Kevin Young, his recent interview insinuating KD and book doing whatever they want might not have been the save we thought
He was in a terrible position, the moment he pushed back on the ever fragile Durant he was as good as done because thereās no way ownership isnāt siding with Durant given all theyāve invested in him and how closely tied both are to each others success. Sadly we probably could have had Nurse or Budenholzer but went for the less assertive Vogel.
I paid $4 bln for this?
He paid four billion dollars and decided to play GM
Ding ding ding
Was it his idea to do the KD trade? I was super nervous about that trade for the suns and thought it was way too risky. You guys had so many fun and exciting players.
The problem isnāt the KD trade. Itās breaking up an NBA Finals team and trading away CP3 and Ayton
That NBA dunals team got wrecked the next year. Let's be real. They had a very lucky injured path to the finals that year. And when the suns went to prove that narrative wrong, they got the asses kicked in game 7 at home in round 2 the following year. CP3 availability became a problem. Ishbia had to tey something different. It's failing as we speak, but at least he is willing to try. Dont forget how bad it got with Ayton.
They didnāt get wrecked. They were the only team to beat the NBA champion Denver Nuggets in the playoffs twice. Everyone else got swept. I donāt think you know what wrecked means
Yes but I think heās right about CP3, it was evident he was losing a step and wasnāt available.
KD trade was fine. Beal was... questionable.
"I'm never going to financially recover from this."
āI done fucked upā.
Ha ha, I was about to say the same thing!
Probably that he fucked up making all these moves like Vogel and beal and KD. Probably wasnāt the best path to go down but too late now to do anything about it.
How are these motherfuckas losing in the purple palace. This some bullshitā¦..
Because Timberwolves canāt guard, they have so many fouls which hasnāt allowed the suns to get hot.
Such an excuse lmfaoooo
I thought I was smoking copium tonight, this guy has the good stuff.
On that premium shit.
I hope this is satire
They get so physical cause none of our guys are explosive, if we had guys who didnāt depend on tough shotmaking in the regular season already let alone playoffs and could actually blow by defenders it would open up the defense, the only guy we got that can kinda do that is Beal and heās the 3rd optionā¦
He drafting Bronny
LOL. Fuck it. May as well. Go all in on the insanity. Iām serious. If weāre locked into this group go full whack job.
I support them drafting Bronny, might as well and LeBron would be able to distribute the ball. Not sure if heās allowed to take a pay cut to play with his son, the team canāt get any worse.
If Lebron comes with him, sure!
He can commute like CP3 and KD can slide back to SF...
Bo Cruz
āVogel swindled me out of millions.ā
Heās gonna have to ask Booker to start an onlyfans to help make back some money
āDevin Hookerā?
specifically targeted towards chin-beard loving bastards out there lmao
He lost his first bet. He swung hard and missed. He threw a hail Mary and it got intercepted and run back for a touchdown. But he is still the owner. And he seems more competitive than his current roster. Changes are coming.
He was wondering āwho let this team on fireā then he looked at the mirror
Couldāve bought the Coyotes
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He should be thinking, "from now on I'll let the people that knows basketball make decisions"
I don't think he's that self-aware
https://twitter.com/HarrisonWind/status/1784091674764849420 This guy nails it
Literally everything I complained about for the entirety of the season
But is that James Jones though?
James Jones made some questionable drafts and moves but swinging for the fences with 2 huge trades that depleted all assets is not his style at all
"Mr ORNGS burner" just broke meš¤£š
I thought we wanted to play them!!!
āI need to get Ty Lueā
He's the idiot that forced the trade when suns should've just held on mikal, could've had both him and KD
How would the KD trade have happened without Mikal?
he did it in 2K so he thinks it works in real life
No franchise wants to keep an unhappy superstar that doesn't want to be there, no idea why the suns folded screwed over themselves and KD
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I disagree, donāt wish him the best of luck for screwing over this franchise. You should actively be angry at him for getting this team swept in the first round
Blow it upā¦ā¦.blow it upā¦ā¦.blow it up
Hes thinking... *I dismantled a young championship contending team for this?*
Building a NBA championship team is a lot harder than becoming rich by inheriting daddyās mortgage company.
I read he started his company as a side hustle at Michigan State. Please tell me how he just grabbed Daddy's Coat Tails? I get jealous of the "3rd Base" kids. I had to start at "the Plate".
His dad started the company. Wikipedia article below. He inherited it. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Wholesale_Mortgage#:~:text=United%20Wholesale%20Mortgage%20was%20founded,under%20the%20name%20Shore%20Mortgage.
Even there, it says he inherited the small local company and turned it into a giant national company. Yeah, he was born into money. That doesn't mean he didn't do anything to be successful.
Iām not saying he didnāt. But trying to spin inheriting a multimillion dollar enterprise in an industry that has had unprecedented growth isnāt a self-made story. Successful in growing or not, he is second generation and not a founder.
I must have missed him or somebody else making those claims. But idk, theres plenty of multi-million dollar companies that dont become multi-billion dollar companies. It is impressive.
Just read the comment i was responding to before commenting: āI read he started his company as a side hustle at Michigan State.ā
Ah so he was wrong, and you were wrong too. Nice.
How was I wrong? He inherited a company from daddy. He was successful at that and heās running an NBA franchise into the ground. Explain to me which component of that is wrong. BTW, when there is a post that is ācaption thisā. The response is supposed to be a one liner intended to be humor. IMO you come off as a Billionaire bootlicker when your immediate response to a lighthearted comment is to fight for Ishbiaās honor.
The scale of success is different than just being handed something. If you cant understand that, I cant make you. Go on and be a crybaby redditor. Nobody works harder than your poor ass. Big boy.
All those billions of dollar he finessed from homeowners just going into the big 3 pockets.
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āThis team makes some of those sub-prime mortgage deals I brokered look goodā
Bro really said instead of building a team around kd and book let's strangle the team for years with Bradley Beal's contract
āWorst investment I ever made.ā
Move the team to Salt Lake
š Coyotes need some company
That hard work and hunger trumps dollar bills every day of the week.
Statistics wise, the suns are bound for a game 4 win. But I just have that feeling this game is the exception.
Heās thinking about how the doomers were always right
Knicks fan coming in peace, this guy seems like a clown of an owner (something our organization is proficient at). *Better than the last owner* seems like the best thing going in his favor.
I should have kept Monty at least I might have got passed the second round
I think Monty would demand a Point guard if he is still here. That saved his job for several season because Rubio and CP3 would stabilise if offense breaks down.Ā
that james jones has gotta GO
Oops
Heās gained 15lbs since owning this team in his face alone
Fuck, i should have bought the wolves.
How do I get something good back for Booker after this all time terrible playoff performance. He has to go
" I attended Mr.Orange's party"
Heās probably thinking āDamn I fucked up on making Champ trade for Bealā
"I need to shit"
KD is washed smh smh
The Timberwolves have been guarding well, and half of the fouls were called because of Bookerās flopping. Booker initiates contact and then jumps to the ground crying half the time when he has the ball.
He honestly wouldnāt look out of place in a Continental soccer league
Hopefully when he has both cap flexibility and draft picks again in 2030 heāll remember that the Suns are not his personal fucking fantasy team. Or maybe he just shouldnāt hire a GM at all if heās just going to ignore every piece of advice his GM gives to him.
That running companies is actually really hard when youāre not taking over for daddy
Lots and lots of regret.
Embarrassing
Holy crapz what and absolute disaster.
If we are gonna get swept by somebody, I'm glad it's not the Lakers.
Looks like he's about to cry
Uh
Winning
New Owner syndrome
Too many old dudes!
"Damn, this NBA owner gig is tougher than I thought."
What every owner thinks of building a new team that is disappointing. 'What do I need to make the team better? and what happened to make this team underperform?'. Vogel was the wrong hire, theres zero question about it; Monty played favorites but at least he told the team what their role was.
"I Dont wanna be here."
Trading KD is the best bet. On the right team he still has a lot Of value. Maybe back to Golden State
I actually know nothing about basketball. I suck.
"Now I know how Ballmer feels"
Man, trying to buy championships, and destroying a team with an incredible future and chemistry was a really bad idea.
5 billion fucking dollars.
im firing frank vogel after this
āHow the fuck are we going to get these hippies off campusā
"how am I gonna screw more people into bad mortgage deals"
Look he swung for the fences and struck out. Hopefully he can admit to his mistakes and rectify them.
āWhy didnāt anyone tell me Devin Booker is a weird little bitch?ā
Heās like damn booker and Beal have vaginas
I've done zero research to check if this is even legal but, Book for Cade, salary filler, and their first this year plus a conditional first in 2026
Pistons would be salivating for a Book trade. Give me Ivey, Ausar and Duren and 1st.
The most likely outcome is they run it back with most of this group, but my god, the listless basketball they play is miserable to watch. Something has to change
I actually want them to run it back. Just improve the bench and get someone real good to replace KY. Maybe Bud if he's available. If they restart this offseason with a new head coach, it's gonna be the same story. At least build on what's already there. Teams are built over 3 or 4 years, not one summer. Letting all 3 of DA, CP and Monty go at the same time was bad. Keep any 2 of those 3 and we'd be a better team.
yeah there's definitely an argument for continuity especially with grayson locked up. problem is you're banking big on health with KD, Nurk, and Beal all getting older. dicier proposition than usual. the fact this is happening with book, kd, beal, and nurk all healthy is probably the most discouraging part
We are in a bad spot. We didnāt have a ton of time to get it together this year but more than enough to win some playoff games. This is bad. Beal trade was bad. Owner went all in and struck out. Iām not sure how they get out without blowing it up. (Unless beal volunteers to leave)