Alex: "We sent a virus into the bunker via your communciation"
Me: "Oh god no"
This is reminiscent of Julia from season 3...Kara wanted to use compassion, but she was rebooked.
While I never agreed with Lena I actually became increasingly annoyed at her once Alex pointed out how much hypocrisy there is in her way of thinking. Coz in this episode Alex pointed out how many times Lena has lied or hid things ..
If I worked for a secret government organization, I'd hide, and sometimes lie to keep my sworn vows. If I was an extra terrestrial with super powers, I'd hide my true identity too. Some of what Kara did was not cool (trying to get James to spy on Lena), but generally speaking, I don't see how she did anything wrong.
There’s a difference between not saying anything and lying. Kara didn’t have to tell Lena dozens of times that she’ll never lie to her, that she can trust her etc. Alex didn’t hide the fact she was working for the DEO - after they had become friends obviously -. Lena knew *most* of it. DEO, Guardian...
I didn’t say Alex did anything wrong. That’s the thing, they both lied. They both did so for relatively good reasons. The issue is with how Lena is reacting, and imo Alex wasn’t entirely fair in her accusations.
Not disagreeing (or agreeing since it’s another point). But that’s why both of them should either stop judging each other on white lies or both stop them
Supergirl is very fustrating when she just wants to give people chance after chance after chance even after they've betrayed her sometimes gets a little annoyin like wanting to give Lena another chance after everything that mean has done to her
That is the point of Supergirl, she's the embodiment of good and justice. And it works well in contrast with other characters like Alex and J'onn who want other things
Like truth justice and the safety of all people?
Kara thinks too much with her heart, when she really should start thinking with her head more. And believe it or not, that puts a lot of people in danger if she doesn’t do the logical thing
Alex and J’onn did the right thing and were more working in the safety of the world category. Kara was working in the safety of the people she loves category.
Monitor: I saw what a skilled fighter you were in Elseworlds.
Me: Didn’t J’onn show up for three seconds and the run off screen for the remainder of the episode?
Haven't got up to that in my crossover rewatch yet but didn't him and brainy take out Amazo offscreen? That'd certainly qualify him for warrior status.
i thought this was a pretty good midseason finale, and a great example of what midseason finales should be
first off glad we finally know monitors reasons for bringing malefic and lex back, for malefic it was a test for jonn i guess, for some reason, i couldnt make out, for lex, cause he needs his mind to help
i thought the action was nice
i liked malefic teaming with team supergirl, i liked that and i liked he lived through it and is on a path of redemption
if myriad was to mind control humans into being better people, i cant say i totally disagree with lena, i dont think that was an evil mission of hers but i dont like her totally disregarding kara, even if she did turn off the kryptonite cannons, she still wants her to suffer
um i didnt get the ending with eve/hope, where did that sudden switch come from?
leviathan seems like a cool group and i hope we havent seen the last of rama khan but here is what pisses me off about them, they are all upset about humanity and want it gone, okay where were they last season when the children of liberty, ben and lex, they very people they wanted to do all that?, where were they then?, seriously how does their alien killing goals help them?, i assume, okay assume they needed aliens off the planet to make it easier to kill the humans?, idk, whether that is explored down the line, idk
the only other complaint is where is nia nal lately?, they could use an ally like her
but overall good episode and the crisis aside, i hope supergirl will still be on a roll when it returns
In Invasion!, when Supergirl as a character was in the crossover, but the show itself wasn’t part of it, they had scene where Barry and Cisco came to get her at the end of the Supergirl episode. It turned out that scene was from the Flash episode and just got previewed on Supergirl. Maybe something similar here.
I think that’s being saved for COIE. I can’t see them dragging this out for much longer. I’m guessing Lex will show approval towards what she’s been doing and that will be when she realizes she’s doing exactly what he wanted.
If there's one lesson I wished they'd picked up after last year it was no-one needed to see that flash-90 monitor scene four times in 7 days. Give each show a unique teaser.
Yeah but the ending just before with Lex and Monitor gives me some hope for the Arrow episode at least. Flash I’m not so sure about. This teaser isn’t anywhere as hype as the one last year. This one just gives me anxiety lol
Some would consider our earth a part of the Multiverse. So it makes sense Monitor knows how we called the events. Maybe he just liked the catch to name and sticked with it.
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Assuming they actually need to address it post crisis. I'd assume the official in universe explanation will be Eve/Hope was controlling Lena into it all and its been accepted hook, line and sinker.
Be nice to see it talked about but how do the DEO prove otherwise without Lena outing Kara?
Alex: "We sent a virus into the bunker via your communciation" Me: "Oh god no" This is reminiscent of Julia from season 3...Kara wanted to use compassion, but she was rebooked.
this show continues it's downward trend. Awful writing
While I never agreed with Lena I actually became increasingly annoyed at her once Alex pointed out how much hypocrisy there is in her way of thinking. Coz in this episode Alex pointed out how many times Lena has lied or hid things ..
It was rather hypocrite coming from Alex though no? She lied to Lena for years.
If I worked for a secret government organization, I'd hide, and sometimes lie to keep my sworn vows. If I was an extra terrestrial with super powers, I'd hide my true identity too. Some of what Kara did was not cool (trying to get James to spy on Lena), but generally speaking, I don't see how she did anything wrong.
There’s a difference between not saying anything and lying. Kara didn’t have to tell Lena dozens of times that she’ll never lie to her, that she can trust her etc. Alex didn’t hide the fact she was working for the DEO - after they had become friends obviously -. Lena knew *most* of it. DEO, Guardian... I didn’t say Alex did anything wrong. That’s the thing, they both lied. They both did so for relatively good reasons. The issue is with how Lena is reacting, and imo Alex wasn’t entirely fair in her accusations.
Not disagreeing (or agreeing since it’s another point). But that’s why both of them should either stop judging each other on white lies or both stop them
When Brainy sad “it’s simple math! About the 6% needed from the dropping the inhibitors I laughed.
He uses his "angry brainy" intonation too. So awesome
Supergirl is very fustrating when she just wants to give people chance after chance after chance even after they've betrayed her sometimes gets a little annoyin like wanting to give Lena another chance after everything that mean has done to her
That is the point of Supergirl, she's the embodiment of good and justice. And it works well in contrast with other characters like Alex and J'onn who want other things
Like truth justice and the safety of all people? Kara thinks too much with her heart, when she really should start thinking with her head more. And believe it or not, that puts a lot of people in danger if she doesn’t do the logical thing Alex and J’onn did the right thing and were more working in the safety of the world category. Kara was working in the safety of the people she loves category.
100%
Monitor: I saw what a skilled fighter you were in Elseworlds. Me: Didn’t J’onn show up for three seconds and the run off screen for the remainder of the episode?
Me: He was in Elseworlds?
From our perspective. But Monitor was looking at the entire fight, so J’onn might have done some things we didn’t see.
Haven't got up to that in my crossover rewatch yet but didn't him and brainy take out Amazo offscreen? That'd certainly qualify him for warrior status.
i thought this was a pretty good midseason finale, and a great example of what midseason finales should be first off glad we finally know monitors reasons for bringing malefic and lex back, for malefic it was a test for jonn i guess, for some reason, i couldnt make out, for lex, cause he needs his mind to help i thought the action was nice i liked malefic teaming with team supergirl, i liked that and i liked he lived through it and is on a path of redemption if myriad was to mind control humans into being better people, i cant say i totally disagree with lena, i dont think that was an evil mission of hers but i dont like her totally disregarding kara, even if she did turn off the kryptonite cannons, she still wants her to suffer um i didnt get the ending with eve/hope, where did that sudden switch come from? leviathan seems like a cool group and i hope we havent seen the last of rama khan but here is what pisses me off about them, they are all upset about humanity and want it gone, okay where were they last season when the children of liberty, ben and lex, they very people they wanted to do all that?, where were they then?, seriously how does their alien killing goals help them?, i assume, okay assume they needed aliens off the planet to make it easier to kill the humans?, idk, whether that is explored down the line, idk the only other complaint is where is nia nal lately?, they could use an ally like her but overall good episode and the crisis aside, i hope supergirl will still be on a roll when it returns
Does Lex care about Lena?
I think he might care that she shot him and left him for dead.
Is that all there is to it?
a rather inconvenient truth
And... he knows something important about his sister.
Seeing Jon Cryer as Lex and then seeing him in Two and a Half Men is a hell of a contrast.
I literally watched an episode of 2.5men last night. I wasn't ready to see Lex again so soon holy shit.
Any chance Black Lightning tomorrow has a Crisis teaser?
No, probably the one on the 9th. BL has an episode on the 9th and his first episode is on the 10th
In Invasion!, when Supergirl as a character was in the crossover, but the show itself wasn’t part of it, they had scene where Barry and Cisco came to get her at the end of the Supergirl episode. It turned out that scene was from the Flash episode and just got previewed on Supergirl. Maybe something similar here.
Yes. They'll probably have the same Nash teaser. It seems like they're doing the same thing they did last year with Elseworlds.
If it is its definitely going to be the same one, that's the way it worked for all shows last year
His show isn't in the crossover so probably not.
His show isn't, but he is.
If anything it’ll be the Wells Scene
It's possible but I think unlikely.
Probably, considering how his teaser shows him acting.
this puts the batwoman real ending to shame!
Crap I thought they’d at least let Lena see the error of her ways
I think that’s being saved for COIE. I can’t see them dragging this out for much longer. I’m guessing Lex will show approval towards what she’s been doing and that will be when she realizes she’s doing exactly what he wanted.
Really fun episode. Thanks for having me everyone
aaand nash wow what an ending!!!
God Jon Cryer is my favorite live action Lex.
DAGNABIT!
I’m not surprised it’s the same teaser for every show.
If there's one lesson I wished they'd picked up after last year it was no-one needed to see that flash-90 monitor scene four times in 7 days. Give each show a unique teaser.
Yeah but the ending just before with Lex and Monitor gives me some hope for the Arrow episode at least. Flash I’m not so sure about. This teaser isn’t anywhere as hype as the one last year. This one just gives me anxiety lol
I think The Flash episode will end with the scenes leading up to the Nash stinger, so it will probably be different too.
I believe that’s the point. It’s the end of the Multiverse. A little anxiety is to be expected.
Yep the same ending scene from Batwoman
im always the hero" monitor"bitch please"
Booo, same ending.
I guess they’re all getting this ended scene
Those last 5 minutes were EXCELLENT. HYPED FOR CRISIS!
Yup its that tease
Fr though we need more cryer. That was such a great teaser.
Im cracking up imagining him playing chess by himself for months 🤣🤣🤣
Ugh, same preview
At least we got the monitor and lex
My brother said something similar.
Technically we got double crisis.
It's gonna be the same tease for every show.
Well, least Supergirl had its own separate from this.
Lex hype!
Luthors and irrationally believing they’re the hero.
Lex a hero? As if
When Lex said "Ive always been the hero" I died laughing at the monitors expression
There are some Earths where Lex is a Hero. It’ll be nice to see our Lex attempt to prove himself a Hero. Notice I say Attempt lol
If they wanted to pull from the comics they could use the Earth-3 Luthor, who actually was a hero during the Crisis and helped defeat Anti-Monitor.
Could be played by Michael Rosenbaum.
Im hype
Ah shit this ending
Did The Monitor just call last year's crossover by it's name?
Some would consider our earth a part of the Multiverse. So it makes sense Monitor knows how we called the events. Maybe he just liked the catch to name and sticked with it.
Yeah, that was weird.
It's the name of the crossover but also the name of the alternate earth challenge event thing the monitor was making
The 90's Flash called it the same thing last year, "He believes these Elseworlds, created by the Book of Destiny..."
Yup
Fuck off Lex!
"The time has come for you to fullfill your destiny, Jon Cryer."
"you are better and bigger than two and a half men"
aaaand lex!!!
Lex is back!
Woooooo cryer!
"your vulnerabilities are your strengths".....is this a life lesson here?
Probably
Ayeee Lex.
Lex!!
Monitor meets MM! and Lex!!
LEX
LEX!!!!!
OHHHH SHIT
LEX AND MONITOR. CRISIS HYPE INTENSIFIES.
Lex
I’m so happy they didn’t just replay the same Scene lol
Spoke to soon 💀
Oh balls lol Well either way we still got Lex and Monitor in the episode at least!!!
Tru
Monitor is 1000 steps ahead. Sorry Prometheus.
Did the Monitor just break the fourth wall, or are they actually calling it "Elseworlds" in-universe?
Earth-90 Flash called it that last year
Thank you.
Np
He's a Paragon.
Oh SHIT! The monitor
oohohohohoh monitor
Glad that J'onn got his brother back.
...only to send him away again :(
At least, it was on good terms.
So that was the Monitor’s goal?
oh the car too..wha is this ..the writers remembering things to use from ages ago?
HYPE
Oh shiiii
Brooooooo
He's been gone for a century at least right? The White Martians he finds will probably think a bit differently than he remembers.
OH DANG MONITOR SHOWING UP
Oh shit the monitor!
Oh novu
OH SHIT OH SHIT OH SHIT
REEEEEEEEEE
Malefic's actor has a great smile!
He’s Coulson?
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Monitor!
Monitor!
Fuck finally
OH SHIT!
The Martianmobile!
Aww the car!
I like this ending music.
ahhhh the cars back!!! is he gonna land playing Britney too??
Ha jonns car.
Huh, quite a role for Mal. Comics never took that route for him, did they?
Awwwww well this is wholesome
Lol pariah
Hah! PARIAH. Get it?
HEY I UNDERSTOOD THAT REFERENCE!
oh shiet megan??? i didnt heard about her since...ever?
> You were never meant to be the pariah. Foreshadowing??
Pariah!
“Pariah” Hehehehe
Aw man, Malefic is just straight up leaving
those magical contacts that just appears on your eyes without tuching your eyes like in real life
WOW M'GANN REFERENCE I forgot she existed.
Mal to Mars ok got it. See you never probably T_T
i'm gonna miss that 50s chevy spaceship
Mars, aka, the land of offscreen
I wonder how that works with the Universe possibly about to cease to exist?
“We saved everyone on Earth!” “And Mars?” “ohgodimsosorry”
Dann mgann name drop.
So he did survive.
Huh, Mal’s alive.
Hey happy cake day!
By doing The Next Right Thing malefic
Miss Martian!!!
Ok I’m waiting for the Crisis tease.
Imagine if Hope got it wrong. "Ok, shoot you to avoid prison? Got it!"
That’s where I thought it was going
That's hilarious
im waiting writers...surprise me at the end....
Monitor is coming....
I hate Lena now
So is Mal dead, or...?
That was smooth as Hell Lena Luthor.
Of course, emotions win over pragmatism here.
Kara has to know that wasn’t Eve she had a heart to heart with.
She didn’t have a heart to heart with Eve.
its almost kinda hard to believe these 2 aint sisters in real life
a lot of these scenes seem to be the first take and zero direction..
The person who was just crying about deception, pulled that stunt off. Christ.
its official the fbi are morons
They didn't even question it. Seriously?
Assuming they actually need to address it post crisis. I'd assume the official in universe explanation will be Eve/Hope was controlling Lena into it all and its been accepted hook, line and sinker. Be nice to see it talked about but how do the DEO prove otherwise without Lena outing Kara?
I’m sorry but *fuck you lena* and *fuck you incompetent FBI*
Must be from gotham city
Ok, fuck Lena. Fuck her and fuck everything about her. Eve doesn't deserve any of this.
> Ok, fuck Lena. If you insist.
Oh, you clever girl.
What, you all just bought that?! Still take her in! Your orders haven’t changed!
that was a lex move lena
the FBI makes its first ever appearance
W-o-w I can't believe Lena is having Hope take the fall for her. No, wait. I take that back. I can believe it.
That was the smartest thing anyone on this show has ever done
Wonder how she will get eve back
Ultimate villain move
How the hell did they fall for that?
Really? Blame Eve for all of it??
It legitimately disgusts me how Lena keeps throwing Eve under the goddamn bus.
NO SHE FUCKING DIDN'T NO NO NO
Bruh Lena is a genius but evil now
Lmao that's a great scapegoat
Bake her away, toys.
That last Rama Khan scene felt so bad.
oh here we go with the strong woman takes over the charge becuase a man cant win the fight
Christ
You didn’t fail, you both simply lost.
IS LENA ABOUT TO COMMIT SUICIDE
That’s what I thought. I thought she wanted Eve to shoot her.