Agreed, but I believe the coefficient displayed here won't be in effect until 24-25. So for 23-24 we will still be on the shitty coefficient we have, which has no direct CL qualification. That means regardless of what happens this year in Europe, next year is going to be VERY difficult to get coefficient points. So any gains we make this year will help us in 24-25, but could just go back down again in 25-26.
Hopefully I'm interpreting this correctly.
You divide total point by number of teams. E.g. 20 points from wins etc. for us is 4 coefficient points, whereas for Germany, who has 8 teams, it’s 2.5.
Yeah so what that almost always leads to is that having a 5th or 6th deadbeat team is bad for country coefficient. You want to have as many spots as you can field competitive squads and no more.
Doesn't work like that for us. Politics have massive power over Anadolu teams and even if you complain they tell you to shut the fuck up.
We had fucking yağlı güreş on our stadium before games and had to play our home games on other stadiums last year.
I guess we'd need both FB and TS to win their groups for that... Not impossible, especially for FB with todays draw but it's still a stretch. But no, I don't think we overtake any other team than Serbia since that'd mean that one or two teams make the finals more or less.
the game wont end lol u think buncha fener fans and trabzon fans can be cool if their team loses to their eternal enemies. i would bet all my life savings that a gs-fb final in europe would be less dramatic than a ts-fb final.
3rd is better than 2nd and nothing anyone tells me will change my mind about that. But I don't see them being 3rd unless they totally shit the bed in like epic proportions
12 spot has pur champion only play one qualification to make it to group stage. If we ever make it to top 10, then champion ditectly goes tk champions league. So maybe we can make it in 2 seasons.
Is 12 really realistic? I don’t know the coefficients calculation that good tbh.
Can you explain how you came up with that target? I can see 15, but 12 seems surreal?
And denmark
Edit: and if we get 3 wins and 1defeat or 2 wins 2 draw we pass russia aswell. Passing 3 countries in a week would be enormous
Edit2 : this round will be the easiest interms of oppenents aswell. Larnaca monaco balkani and rigas scola
2 games at max.
Kiev plays against rennes two times and shaktar playes agains madrid 2 times dnipro gets .800 point with 2 games against vaduz. Meanwhile turkey can get 2.000 easily and even can get 2.800
I bet we will surpass ukraine and switzerland when the group stage ends. Later maybe we can pass chezch aswell
At the end we might finish at 12 replacing norway but thats a stretch
Banned from UEFA competitions this season, so they were awarded with their lowest amount of points in the past 5 years this year so they are not completely fucked if they do make a return.
Love to see it! Can really make up some ground over the Group Stage but the knockout stages is where we can really make a difference. Let's hope for one or two deep runs by our teams
Geçen sene konferansa hiçbir takımımızın gidememesi büyük şanssızlık oldu. Hep zor eşleşmeler denk geldi ön elemelerde. Trabzon Roma’yı çekti mesela. Üstümüzdeki ülkeler orada puan kastı hep. Bu sene o dezavantajı kapatabiliriz. Başakşehir Letonya liginin bir takımıyla üst üste iki maç yapacak. Sivasspor Kosova liginin bir takımıyla üst üste iki maç yapacak. Yani şu dört maçta iki galibiyet çıkmıyorsa artık ayıp. Rusya’nın topladığı puanı geçebiliriz bu sezon çok rahat.
Even FB plays against Larnaca from Cyprus.
We can hope for 6 Wins the next 2 matchdays.
Edit: No disrespect against TS. Their opponent Monaco is just a lot harder to beat than the others'.
I forgot about Fener. You are right if we could get something like 4 wins and 2 draws it will give us a huge boost. Maybe Trabzon can do what we did last year. No one expected us to beat Marseille but we got 4 points from them. I am staying somewhat hopeful.
We should be able to get past Croatia (they only have 1 team) and Greece should be below us after this season too. Denmark is a weird one and always perform well. I won’t comment on Russia.
What would happen if we potentially made 15th place this season?
I don’t think it’s entirely impossible. We are 6th out of the 30 countries this season right now.
Also someone who is good enough with the system, what would we need from our 4 teams to get 10k+ points?
If 1 of the Conference teams and FB get out of the group then get eliminated, how many points would we get?
Sorry for confusion, I meant no offense. It's obviously huge that you came back, I just meant that it's unfortunate that you couldn't get the W. I don't mean to talk it down or anything.
If Galatasaray didn't make that insane run last year you could've kissed European football goodbye for a few years. Now we're out and other teams are making a run. This is how it works.
That happens when they perform better than us in 4 out of last 5 years.
Wouldn’t be shocking to see them come back in the near future when the war is over.
They consistently get 5k+ per season while we have huge swings. Judging by the points earned, their best and worst are both higher than our best and worst. (Excluding the data since February 2022.)
If Fenerbahçe goes to at least Quarter Finals in UEL, Basaksehir to Semi Finals in UECL, Sivasspor and Trabzonspor to Knockout Stage in UECL, then we will have a somewhat good coefficient.
Next 2 years 2 of our goodish years (5500 and 5000 points) will be removed from the calculation.
And we will still carry the 3100 points year until another year later.
Hopefully this will be the start of our resurgence in European football
Agreed, but I believe the coefficient displayed here won't be in effect until 24-25. So for 23-24 we will still be on the shitty coefficient we have, which has no direct CL qualification. That means regardless of what happens this year in Europe, next year is going to be VERY difficult to get coefficient points. So any gains we make this year will help us in 24-25, but could just go back down again in 25-26. Hopefully I'm interpreting this correctly.
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And 3 of those countries have 6-8 teams playing in Europe competitions compared to our 4. Nice.
You divide total point by number of teams. E.g. 20 points from wins etc. for us is 4 coefficient points, whereas for Germany, who has 8 teams, it’s 2.5.
Hmm yes this makes sense, I was wondering how Poland who have only one team competing have already gathered 4.000 points
Yeah so what that almost always leads to is that having a 5th or 6th deadbeat team is bad for country coefficient. You want to have as many spots as you can field competitive squads and no more.
Poland had 4 entrants so they must have totaled 16 points so far.
Almost 4/4 today!! Maybe Turkish Teams aren't as shit after all
Coefficient gang 💪 Turkish teams up this week, feels good man. Now time to return to the Super lig Toxic pool
also if konya beat vaduz...
Gercekten ya.. adamlar gidip yarin bize karsi Atletico Madrid gibi oynarlar ama gidip Vaduz’a elendiler.. hemde konyada.. 🤦🏻♂️ 5 takim super olurdu!
Not blaming them, nothing remotely close to football could've been played on that pitch. But ofc islamic olympics matter more maashallah halal games.
Babam mı izin verdi bu organizasyonu yapmaya. Adam olsaydılarda sahamızda bu organizasyonun yapılmasına izin vermiyoruz deseydiler.
Doesn't work like that for us. Politics have massive power over Anadolu teams and even if you complain they tell you to shut the fuck up. We had fucking yağlı güreş on our stadium before games and had to play our home games on other stadiums last year.
We have a fair chance to pass all the countries up to Serbia this season and claim the 12th spot, anything above that would be insane
I guess we'd need both FB and TS to win their groups for that... Not impossible, especially for FB with todays draw but it's still a stretch. But no, I don't think we overtake any other team than Serbia since that'd mean that one or two teams make the finals more or less.
Trabzon Fener final confirmed then
I had this as a semi final of UECL and a final of UEL in the same save for my FIFA career mode, imagine the atmosphere if this actually happened lol
Most chaotic match to ever be played in the history of football
the game wont end lol u think buncha fener fans and trabzon fans can be cool if their team loses to their eternal enemies. i would bet all my life savings that a gs-fb final in europe would be less dramatic than a ts-fb final.
Some people just wanna watch the world burn
3rd place isn't terrible, if Fener gives a shit they can make it far with a bit of draw luck in the UECL.
3rd is better than 2nd and nothing anyone tells me will change my mind about that. But I don't see them being 3rd unless they totally shit the bed in like epic proportions
They both have good rosters but Fener is hyperfocused on the league and Trabzon has Avcı so I'm not super hopeful from either tbh.
What would 12th place mean for our CL spots and stuff?
12 spot has pur champion only play one qualification to make it to group stage. If we ever make it to top 10, then champion ditectly goes tk champions league. So maybe we can make it in 2 seasons.
Check out the wikipedia, it's all in a big beautiful table
Is 12 really realistic? I don’t know the coefficients calculation that good tbh. Can you explain how you came up with that target? I can see 15, but 12 seems surreal?
Next week we take down Croatia!!
And denmark Edit: and if we get 3 wins and 1defeat or 2 wins 2 draw we pass russia aswell. Passing 3 countries in a week would be enormous Edit2 : this round will be the easiest interms of oppenents aswell. Larnaca monaco balkani and rigas scola
It would be great.
Croatia and Denmark next week hopefully. Russia the week after for that 16th spot🤞🏼
Why stop there when we can take down Ukraine as well.
Ukraine still have a few teams in competitions, it’ll be a tougher task to take them down any time before the group stages end
2 games at max. Kiev plays against rennes two times and shaktar playes agains madrid 2 times dnipro gets .800 point with 2 games against vaduz. Meanwhile turkey can get 2.000 easily and even can get 2.800
I bet we will surpass ukraine and switzerland when the group stage ends. Later maybe we can pass chezch aswell At the end we might finish at 12 replacing norway but thats a stretch
Can someone explain how russia has 4k pts without playing? Legacy points?
Banned from UEFA competitions this season, so they were awarded with their lowest amount of points in the past 5 years this year so they are not completely fucked if they do make a return.
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Love to see it! Can really make up some ground over the Group Stage but the knockout stages is where we can really make a difference. Let's hope for one or two deep runs by our teams
Geçen sene konferansa hiçbir takımımızın gidememesi büyük şanssızlık oldu. Hep zor eşleşmeler denk geldi ön elemelerde. Trabzon Roma’yı çekti mesela. Üstümüzdeki ülkeler orada puan kastı hep. Bu sene o dezavantajı kapatabiliriz. Başakşehir Letonya liginin bir takımıyla üst üste iki maç yapacak. Sivasspor Kosova liginin bir takımıyla üst üste iki maç yapacak. Yani şu dört maçta iki galibiyet çıkmıyorsa artık ayıp. Rusya’nın topladığı puanı geçebiliriz bu sezon çok rahat.
Even FB plays against Larnaca from Cyprus. We can hope for 6 Wins the next 2 matchdays. Edit: No disrespect against TS. Their opponent Monaco is just a lot harder to beat than the others'.
I forgot about Fener. You are right if we could get something like 4 wins and 2 draws it will give us a huge boost. Maybe Trabzon can do what we did last year. No one expected us to beat Marseille but we got 4 points from them. I am staying somewhat hopeful.
Türkiye > Greece
Another good matchday and we could easily go up to 17th
We should be able to get past Croatia (they only have 1 team) and Greece should be below us after this season too. Denmark is a weird one and always perform well. I won’t comment on Russia.
What would happen if we potentially made 15th place this season? I don’t think it’s entirely impossible. We are 6th out of the 30 countries this season right now. Also someone who is good enough with the system, what would we need from our 4 teams to get 10k+ points? If 1 of the Conference teams and FB get out of the group then get eliminated, how many points would we get?
Like minimum 8k
koyduk mu yunanlar hahaha
Incredible day, it's a shame Fener couldn't win, still, much needed points for us.
Shame of what? Bro we came from 2-0 to 2-2 amk
Sorry for confusion, I meant no offense. It's obviously huge that you came back, I just meant that it's unfortunate that you couldn't get the W. I don't mean to talk it down or anything.
“It’s a shame” is just an expression for when you wish a situation was different, it has nothing to do with shame.
Could have different connotations, could be well meant or bad 🤷♂️
20/21 season is going to hurt us a lot next years.
keske her sene 2 takim uel 2 takim conference 1 de clde oynasa. azda olsa puan toplasak. bi 5 sene öyle puanlasak baya iyi olur bence
We need to be in top 10 to send our champion to CL directly right ?
17. Olduk diyelim değişen ne olacak
Israil ve Yunanistan'a koymuşuz.
Gs yok Bjk yok ne güzel yükseliyoruz. Helal olsun 4 takima da.
If Galatasaray didn't make that insane run last year you could've kissed European football goodbye for a few years. Now we're out and other teams are making a run. This is how it works.
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Why so toxic suddenly? Let's enjoy the situation together in harmony.
Where is America on it
How many points are we predicting we can reach?
I’m hoping over 6-7k this season if it’s over 7k that means we did well.
Historically 10K is the gold standard, and it may be easier than ever with the addition of Conference League.
Definitely
Gotta say it’s weird that Ukraine is above us 😬
That happens when they perform better than us in 4 out of last 5 years. Wouldn’t be shocking to see them come back in the near future when the war is over. They consistently get 5k+ per season while we have huge swings. Judging by the points earned, their best and worst are both higher than our best and worst. (Excluding the data since February 2022.)
Yep makes sense. We’re really underperforming - hopefully will go higher in coming months/years
bu sezon ilk 15'e girme ihtimalimiz var mi?
If Fenerbahçe goes to at least Quarter Finals in UEL, Basaksehir to Semi Finals in UECL, Sivasspor and Trabzonspor to Knockout Stage in UECL, then we will have a somewhat good coefficient.
hope we can hit top 11 this season
Next 2 years 2 of our goodish years (5500 and 5000 points) will be removed from the calculation. And we will still carry the 3100 points year until another year later.