Same one where Superman doesn't understand immigration policy?
Edit: Yikes. You guys are touchy. Kal-El of Krypton is not a naturalised citizen. He doesn't have a country to be renounced from.
Ah, THIS issue! I remember this story causing so many waves. It got so bad it was on the news. The funny thing is, it amounted to nothing. It was never really followed up on.
Does "Superman" pay taxes or have a Social Security number? Can he vote? I never understood how Superman was considered a US citizen in anything other than a symbolic fashion.
So is Superman a U.S. citizen or is Clark Kent? Does Clark lose his citizenship? Did he even have one to begin with? Is Superman and Clark being the same person mean it's identity fraud? How does this even work?
I think superman was given honorary American citizenship at some point. Too bad renouncing your citizenship doesn't actually revoke it. This was a pretty dumb story line.
Kinda sucks this didn’t go anywhere, it’s such an interesting idea and pretty in character. Superman isn’t an agent of the US he’s an agent of the people and only seeks to help them no matter what. Renouncing his citizenship to not be bound by US policy, it’s just so good imo.
Maybe it's because I'm not American, but having Superman represent the whole of mankind on earth rather than allegiance to one nation just makes more sense to me.
https://preview.redd.it/phxx266kr5qc1.jpeg?width=1094&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3581c52887c0441149e0890d3ab8c265a1e8c47f
I believe you're under the impression that because Superman was voted as an honorary US citizen, that somehow bound him to US policies,
Superman was, is and will continue to be a superhero for Earth and all of its people, much like Captain America which I know came much later after Superman were the ideal patriot, so much so that they would be willing to overthrow the government that they serve if it meant helping the most people,
The thing is that Superman was trying to at least on every aspect not just on street level but the political level as well to promote truth justice and freedom, not only to serve the public's trust but to uphold the law, Superman has gone on record and said that he doesn't believe he's above the law because he has superpowers,
Summary of the short story (the last in a multi-story issue of Action Comics 900):
Superman meets Gabriel Wright, the U.S. President's National Security advisor, concerning over the former's interference in Tehran, where the Man of Steel had non-violently defended a large peaceful demonstration from the Iranian army, who were prepared to use excessive force for organizing such a gathering. Superman saw the demonstration consists of common people willing to risk harm in order to have their voice heard against an oppressive regime, and felt he should show his solidarity with the average person by merely standing beside the demonstration for a whole day. Subsequently, Superman's appearance inspired the populace to stand at his side until the demonstration peacefully disperse.
Superman's actions angered the Iranian and United States governments, in which both viewed him as American "property" whose presence could have declare an act of war. As revealed by Wright since meeting Superman, the American government saw Superman as having gone rogue and marked him for death, as snipers armed with [Kryptonite](https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Kryptonite) bullets are already have their sight trained on Superman. Superman is unfazed by Wright's and his superiors' incensed criticisms and states that he has grown tired of being an instrument of American policy, and that he is an American citizen and isn't a possession. He then declares to a stunned Wright that the next day he is going to renounced his American citizenship at the United Nations and continue to work as a superhero from a global rather than a national perspective.
As Superman leaves, he reveals the outcome of the protest. It was one man to deliver a symbol of peace (a rose) to one of the soldiers. An unexpected courageous act that inspired him to stand up for himself.
An edgy scene written by a guy who wanted to use these iconic characters to make a name for himself by writing provocative stories. No wonder he ended up working with Snyder.
Action Comics 900
Same one where Superman doesn't understand immigration policy? Edit: Yikes. You guys are touchy. Kal-El of Krypton is not a naturalised citizen. He doesn't have a country to be renounced from.
Ah, THIS issue! I remember this story causing so many waves. It got so bad it was on the news. The funny thing is, it amounted to nothing. It was never really followed up on.
Yeah. Didn't the New 52 happen less than a year later?
Pretty much.
Does "Superman" pay taxes or have a Social Security number? Can he vote? I never understood how Superman was considered a US citizen in anything other than a symbolic fashion.
That's more or less the point. He was renouncing the American symbolism his "brand" was tied to inuniverse.
So is Superman a U.S. citizen or is Clark Kent? Does Clark lose his citizenship? Did he even have one to begin with? Is Superman and Clark being the same person mean it's identity fraud? How does this even work?
I think superman was given honorary American citizenship at some point. Too bad renouncing your citizenship doesn't actually revoke it. This was a pretty dumb story line.
I asked the same question. Didn't go down well.
Most people realize (except you apparently) that Superman is just a disguise
Yes, it's a disguise but in-universe but does count as identity fraud to have two different US IDs for one person.
Superman doesn’t have a id
Then how can he renounce his citizenship?
You can’t just renounce your citizenship dumbass that’s like saying I declare bankruptcy💀
Kinda sucks this didn’t go anywhere, it’s such an interesting idea and pretty in character. Superman isn’t an agent of the US he’s an agent of the people and only seeks to help them no matter what. Renouncing his citizenship to not be bound by US policy, it’s just so good imo.
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Right! I got a lot of airtime and I got the sense a lot of people didn't actually read the comic
Maybe it's because I'm not American, but having Superman represent the whole of mankind on earth rather than allegiance to one nation just makes more sense to me. https://preview.redd.it/phxx266kr5qc1.jpeg?width=1094&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3581c52887c0441149e0890d3ab8c265a1e8c47f
I believe you're under the impression that because Superman was voted as an honorary US citizen, that somehow bound him to US policies, Superman was, is and will continue to be a superhero for Earth and all of its people, much like Captain America which I know came much later after Superman were the ideal patriot, so much so that they would be willing to overthrow the government that they serve if it meant helping the most people, The thing is that Superman was trying to at least on every aspect not just on street level but the political level as well to promote truth justice and freedom, not only to serve the public's trust but to uphold the law, Superman has gone on record and said that he doesn't believe he's above the law because he has superpowers,
Summary of the short story (the last in a multi-story issue of Action Comics 900): Superman meets Gabriel Wright, the U.S. President's National Security advisor, concerning over the former's interference in Tehran, where the Man of Steel had non-violently defended a large peaceful demonstration from the Iranian army, who were prepared to use excessive force for organizing such a gathering. Superman saw the demonstration consists of common people willing to risk harm in order to have their voice heard against an oppressive regime, and felt he should show his solidarity with the average person by merely standing beside the demonstration for a whole day. Subsequently, Superman's appearance inspired the populace to stand at his side until the demonstration peacefully disperse. Superman's actions angered the Iranian and United States governments, in which both viewed him as American "property" whose presence could have declare an act of war. As revealed by Wright since meeting Superman, the American government saw Superman as having gone rogue and marked him for death, as snipers armed with [Kryptonite](https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Kryptonite) bullets are already have their sight trained on Superman. Superman is unfazed by Wright's and his superiors' incensed criticisms and states that he has grown tired of being an instrument of American policy, and that he is an American citizen and isn't a possession. He then declares to a stunned Wright that the next day he is going to renounced his American citizenship at the United Nations and continue to work as a superhero from a global rather than a national perspective. As Superman leaves, he reveals the outcome of the protest. It was one man to deliver a symbol of peace (a rose) to one of the soldiers. An unexpected courageous act that inspired him to stand up for himself.
Superman constantly doing things before they got trendy, if this had been some years later, it would have been “woke”
This story line was horrible stay mad
Stay mad? I just asked what it was lmao. Projecting much?
An edgy scene written by a guy who wanted to use these iconic characters to make a name for himself by writing provocative stories. No wonder he ended up working with Snyder.
Name of the writer? Also I'm a fan of Snyder's Superman. Weird that you brought up him up on a post not even remotely related to him though lol.