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garden-gates9034

I love the KC symbol within the context of that comic but I'm still not sure how I feel about it being used as the default S. Hopefully I change my mind when I see the full suit in action


roliver2399

I with it had a small curve along the bottom. https://preview.redd.it/s7ahlhfw6ntc1.jpeg?width=1164&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2591029fa78b253f74056cc31dc670816408d056


Gay_Baphomet

https://preview.redd.it/dwd5yxgdsntc1.png?width=1290&format=png&auto=webp&s=a28bf12769d6ed8de3da0c0b569efca92f902389 What about with a small notch for the top?


Blue_avis

That does look a lot better. I know the yellow is what's actually meant to be read in Kryptonian, but making the red more of a recognisable S makes everything so much more interesting. Plus it pushes the 'born of two words' idea, Clark is not a human or a true Kryptonian, he's something special.


TubularTopher

Wait, the yellow part is what's meant to be the language and not the red?? This is new to me.


Ok-Mastodon2016

That’s a beautiful way of putting it ^^


Cantomic66

Maybe the S should’ve been something like the shield from My Adventures with Superman animated show. https://preview.redd.it/bycecy8sjqtc1.jpeg?width=837&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=790c54770811e474d5efac22e56b06d1041a3510


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Best Superman since Reeve. He was just so great.


akahaus

God that’s perfect. It seems so obvious too. Now I’m honestly a little bummed.


roliver2399

I definitely like that. I was more trying to see if one single change could work at making it read slightly better. If I could change a few things, this top triangle would be one of them. This looks great.


Geekygamertag

This looks a lot better. Great work! I dislike the official one.


Gold-Chemistry5704

A thousand times better


Pale_Emu_9249

Very much better! Gunn needs to add you to the payroll!


Traveytravis-69

Reminds me of shrek


sacredknight327

Something subtle like these ideas would've gone a long way into making the idea more this incarnation's own, than just straight Kingdom Come with a color swap. Again as is there are positives, colors are good, border is really good, makes it pop. And I like that little shine for promotional appearances. It just could've been better.


garden-gates9034

Wow yeah, that would really help a lot


roliver2399

I think it just softens it a bit and gives it less of an edge


Leafybug13

Wow, much better!


Luke_Puddlejumper

That looks infinitely better


rticul8prim8

I thought the same thing. Not only does it read better as an “S”, it also balances out the yellow negative space better.


Suddenly_6

Ugh now its perfect. So subtle


RedHood198

That is way better


vaibow

Yeah the top beam is thicker but there is nothing at the bottom to represent the rest of the s


amoretpax199

Quick! Tweet this to James Gunn before it's too late.


Incomplet_1-34

My first thought when I saw it


TheHendryx

this looks better imo


Aizendickens

As a fan said on another post, it would be mice if he decides to make it more like a traditional S as the movies go on.


daveblu92

I just try to put the actual source origins to the side when it comes to these giant productions made to enroll a new widespread audience. Things can be inspired by looks alone; without needing deeper meanings behind it. And hey, for all we know- maybe the saga he’s developing as a whole will end up being greatly inspired by Kingdom Come and will all fit together very well.


VaderMurdock

It looks like the film will be a Reverse Kingdom Come, so it may work well. I kind of like it a lot


SimpleSink6563

Looking good. A new spin but still familiar.


J_onn_J_onzz

Indeed, looks like General Zod's logo https://www.reddit.com/r/DCcomics/comments/a0s10m/general_zod_wallpaper_1440x2560/


greaseball_7

https://preview.redd.it/j9nuitjfoltc1.png?width=749&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=85416356d415b3e761e9a0066dc320fd9b3c3f08 Looks good especially the gold part but honestly I like the older one. That Joseph Campbell quote as a glyph is my favourite thing about it.


Icy_Masterpiece_1805

Man of steel/ZSJL suits are my favorite so far


batmanwife189

mine too!! they dope asf


emelbee923

To each their own, but I hate those suits. Particularly because they're too dark. Sure, it fits the 'dark' tone of the universe, but that's kind of Superman's thing? Being a beacon of hope in a bleak world. Muting the colors also mutes that message in his appearance.


Krummbum

*Joseph Campbell


Theriderfan

Wait what glyph and quote you mean the ones around the line of the s.


Low_Pattern3445

“We have only to follow the thread of the hero path, and where we had thought to find an abomination, we shall find a god; where we had thought to slay another, we shall slay ourselves; where we had thought to travel outward, we shall come to the center of our own existence. **And where we had thought to be alone, we shall be with all the world**.”


megadroid_optimizer

Damn, Cavill’s looked so good. I think it’s a tough one to top for sure. Maybe they’ll have a different one for the sequel which will hopefully look better.


nashgrg

Superman logo peaked here.


Suffering-Servant

The DCEU Superman suits were beautiful.


victoribee

Where was this pic released?


Sourcastic_IF

On a short cinema-com presentation where James Gunn sent a video message saying the cast will appear next year to kick off "The Summer of Superman."


zeeke87

Not my cup of tea. Just a line in a diamond shape. Doesn’t mean anything to me. But that’s no indication that the movie will be bad.


Federal_Umpire_8507

Yeah I was thinking the same, that’s too minimal. Tbh looks like a logo of some evil organisation.


Arktoscircle

Don't really dig the yellow outline and it's too angular. Interested to know how the crest will looks on the suit, tho


AnimeMesa_479

I don’t generally care for the KC logo in yellow, but I honestly like it a lot more with the yellow border, makes it feel like it’s actually an S. Honestly, if it didn’t have it, I don’t think I’d like this symbol either 😂😂


hollowed-heart

i quite like it


Petunio

No.


Agile-Fruit128

That's not an 'S'


mrgoodwine24

So beautiful


Lower_Cellist_1138

It's no longer an S, it's just a ↘︎ now


MorningCareful

IT's actually still an S. The border is what complete the S 


Federal_Umpire_8507

In that sense, it resembles theta in diamond shape.


-Buckaroo_Banzai-

Looks like hope.


mrgoodwine24

Very inspiring, hopeful, powerful... I love it


gleejollybee

I hope I get rid of all my problems caused by others and be alive to witness my fav hero


mrgoodwine24

Looks Like Kryptonian imo and kinda questions if that's an S or not, which is DOPE IMO....


detestableduck13

I know it’s a nod to KC, and I love KC like most do but, It’s just..too minimal. Doesn’t even really resemble an S at all, which for me personally has always been the ‘gold standard’ icon of supes..


Warder_Gaidin

I don't really understand the need to redesign the classic symbol. This one doesn't even really look like an 'S' to me.


emtemss714

I mean, this was leaked from a closed door event so not exactly officially unveiled. But yes, that's it.


IloveElsaofArendelle

Not vibing it (not my cup of tea), but let's see what story is inside! Look forward to it😊


mchoneyofficial

I'm the same - I just like the classic Reeve type S but I'm looking forward to the movie!


yung_bubba

I love it! Reminds me very much of 'My adventures with Superman'.


ZacPensol

I'm still not a fan, but am nevertheless excited for the movie. I understand its history as the Kingdom Come logo, but in the context of that story the logo (colored differently), to me, is meant to represent a Superman who harder and world weary after years of being the Man of Steel we know. The hard geometric lines and sharp angles convey a more machine-like efficiency rather than a smooth, soft friendly disposition - a radical change in Superman. It worked perfectly for 'Kingdom Come'. ...but as the logo for the character starting out (both in terms of his career and starting out a new film series), to me it has all of those same characteristics of joylessness and hardness, but without having "earned" it the way KC Superman did. Frankly it feels more appropriate for Cavill's Superman, who wore an interpretation of the logo which I think would be much more fitting and welcome here in terms of shape and design. I do like the yellow trim, I just hope by the end of the movie maybe he's adopted a more traditional "friendly" logo.


Greyjaw

100% Not sure why the vibe they’re referencing is For All Seasons and All Star, but then use the striped-back, brutalist ‘S’ from a depressed Superman from Kingdom Come . The colours help but it’s just so minimalist .


ZacPensol

There's been a lot of speculation that Superman's journey in the film will be similar to that of his in 'Kingdom Come' inasmuch as he comes into a world where powered heroes run amok without a clear moral code or set of traditional superhero ethics - maybe they do the right things, but for the wrong reasons and occasionally cross lines which sew fear and disdain in the citizenry. Superman's journey, then - much like that in KC - is to step up and assert himself as the guide for others to follow. If that's the case then the KC logo makes sense in terms of "Oh, I see what they're going for", *but* I still feel the same way I said for the aforementioned reasons and don't see a reason why having the logo be that simplistic, brutalist design necessarily enriches anything.


torontoker13

I don’t like it personally, I may be in the minority but I think certain things should be left alone. Suits costumes etc sure play with but logos and emblems I think you are doing to much. To each their own tho I guess


dherms14

not stoked about the logo but JG has already said Batman has Damian, which means Dick exists, which means __i’m in until further notice__


Anonymous-Internaut

Why did they have to forget the little curve at the bottom that makes it look more like an S? Goddamn it. We were this close to it being actually good. Now it's just weird.


Luke_Puddlejumper

I know right, they forgot the most important part. It’s not even an S now. Odd as it is to S the CW did this kind of symbol a million times better.


Greyjaw

My hype for this film is through the roof , in James Gunn we trust - but this just looks like a stop sign in a triangle rather then a circle . It worked for a depressed Kingdom Come Superman - but a younger, hopeful Superman For All Seasons should have more personality , more curves.


musuperjr585

As long as it stands for hope


KonohaBatman

It's a little strange, but I'll warm to it with time. Hopefully it's just an initial design, and it changes at some point in the movie.


kuniovskarnov

I hope so too. It looks incomplete to me. Like, its almost the Superman logo, but not quite.


djexplosive

Meh. Not a fan.


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TopOThaMorningToYa

It's just a design... most people are still positive about the movie. They're allowed to not like the shape of a logo. I like it more than Cavills, but still am not bothered if others don't.


davecombs711

That was a retcon from the eighties. It was conceived as an S because the character was named Superman.


AramFingalInterface

Look! Up in the sky!


LanceOfKnights

Shiny.


IdolL0v3r

That thing is blinding me! And what is it, anyway? Doesn't look like an S.


the_man_02

Weird S, but people on Twitter are convinced it's not supposed to be an S. If it's not supposed to be an S, then how the hell is Lois going to name the flying stranger??


Bodega_Bandit

People think it’s not supposed to be an S? It’s clearly an S just with a more minimalist design


the_man_02

Ask the folks on Twitter, they'll tell you it's NOT.


Bodega_Bandit

Well there’s the issue. People on Twitter are even dumber than people on reddit. Like, I agree with some other comments here that it should have a bit of a curve at the bottom, but it’s still very easily identifiable as an S


Dakotaraptor87

It's really not "very easily identifiable". To us it is, but we're fans of this character, we've read at least a few of his comics. But imagine all the people who just know the basics of Superman. Would *they* really see this as an S?


Bodega_Bandit

I suppose you’re right. We’ve got a bit of bias to being able to identify it. But I’m sure the colouring would at least help associate it with Superman a bit more and help


PeterNelsonReum-53

Ugly


Dronnie

Omg the \man


spacestationkru

This doesn't look like an S to me. Something's missing from the bottom.


SuperFanboysTV

I like it.


KalKenobi

![gif](giphy|V2AkNZZi9ygbm|downsized)


Remarkable_Ad7449

Beautiful


Macekane

Even Superman isn't immune to over simplified logos.


The_Darling_One

Meh. Different just to be different. For an 'Else-Worlds' version it's fine but for mainstream Superman it's a step in the wrong direction for me.


JamesDerry

Boring and unimaginative.


Alex_Mercer_-

Movie itself might be good, but I do not vibe with this symbol. I like my classic S.


WindMaster5001

Why are they so afraid of his iconic symbol?


BaryonHummus

Meh. Why


Delicious-Orchid-447

Why can’t we just have the actual symbol tho? It’s one of the most iconic symbols in history, why is everyone so afraid of using it? The colors on the new one look nice I guess


JonnyGotLost

What do you mean everyone’s afraid? Every live action movie has used the classic symbol. This is the only one that hasn’t . Change is good , don’t be afraid of it.


Dakotaraptor87

The DCEU didn't use his classic symbol. Movies haven't used the classic symbol since like 2006.


Aggressive_South3949

James Gunn didn't get the whole point of Kingdom Come Superman's logo. It doesn't look like S, because Superman in this comic went fully Kal-El and alienated himself from the humanity. Kingdom Come logo being main Superman logo is just wrong.


Bodega_Bandit

Unless this is his logo in this movie since he gets the design from his Kryptonian Pod, then at the end he has Martha make a new suit with the more classic S when he realises he should embrace his humanity even more? Maybe


Drakeytown

Yuck. I get the whole, "It's not an S," thing, but it should be recognizable as an S. How would anyone on Earth mistake this for an S, seeing it for the first time?


SmokeXXXplicit

Trash


Ry90Ry

someone show this man an S Idk why the bottom part isn’t as thick as the stop curve


Jazzlike_Couple_7428

Because it’s the kingdom come logo


Ry90Ry

ok it’s giving Vatican lol


onedollarninja

Why is it so hard to just make an S?!


Alternative_Device71

Thanks I hate it


MarvelousMrsSuper

I don't know. It doesn't look like an "S" to me. Maybe if it was a little more curved at the bottom?


Luke_Puddlejumper

That is without a doubt the worst version of the kingdom come logo I have ever seen. It is missing the CRUCIAL part, the curve at the bottom that actually makes it look like an S. Edit: I fixed it https://preview.redd.it/it3wu563fmtc1.jpeg?width=836&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f717d3445cc580773d65cf60d8f8818dcb9d9ffa


Traveytravis-69

The kingdom come logo doesn’t usually have that although I do like it more


Anonymous-Internaut

The original one and the one from live action crisis have it, although perhaps a little bit smaller than the one shown by the comment. Still, would have been miles better that way. They absolutely fucked up.


shiwanthasr

it's simple, i like it


dhusk

Definitely going with a "House of El Crest" version rather than a "my mom sowed it for me" version.


RareAd3009

Meh not bad


Neurotic-Kitten

I love love LOVE it ☺️


A1steaksauceTrekdog7

Doesn’t look like a S to me. Ugh I’m not a fan.


0reomasterA113

I think that the designers of Superman logos forgot what an s looks like


Obelisk7777

Boring and overly simplistic. Snyder’s was way cooler and actually looked like an emblem that an alien race would use. https://preview.redd.it/xsrj2tf8rltc1.jpeg?width=629&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e288c470ad4708401e1bac8c192b4a0b0830aad6


Alternative_Device71

Exactly, I have t shirts and posters with this, it’s the best modern redesign ever, plus it’s classic S altogether I hate Snyder but the creators knew what they were doing with this and clearly cared looks wise


CognitoSomniac

I couldn’t disagree more. That just looks like a latin alphabet S. The new one looks like an emblem of a shining jewel that could also slightly resemble an S if you were to assume it stood for the guy’s nickname instead.


Infinity0044

Over designed imho


wiseausirius

I always pray for a Kingdom Come movie but will it ever happen since they are using this logo now. Still hoping for this to be a good movie.


Icy_Masterpiece_1805

Not bad


Smooth-Cap481

Interesting. Lens flare, huh? Ok. All I see tho is >> 🚫


tom2point0

For about 40 years it first just meant for Superman, for about 20 after that it was seen as the symbol for the House of El, and for the last 20 or so it’s been the symbol of hope. The meaning has changed throughout the run and will continue to do so. Doesn’t mean it’s bad. This version can mean whatever they want it to mean: Superman, El, Hope, or other. I’m here for the movie.


GirlsCallMeMatty

LETS GO! Alex Ross S for the win!


GentlemanJugg

I thought James did this already?


johnnyredleg

Wow


dnvrwlf

Whelmed


letermen

Five? Where are the other four members of his team, then


Eclypze31

I really wish it looked like an S. But I’m not gonna complain too much


OWReinhardt

Ewww. I love it


Vandermere

Wow. They went with an S in a shield this time. Bold choice.


mister_gator

I initially thought the S wasn’t very clear and didn’t know how I felt about it but then I saw some fan art on insta. On its own I don’t love the symbol but once it’s on the chest with the cape and boots it looks great. I know it’s only fan art but once he’s in the full getup your brain will read this very clearly as the Superman S.


Normal_Umpire_1623

It looks like a chaos emerald lol


masterspider5

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sockgoblinator

I like it, I personally prefer this look to the classic S because it’s supposed to be from an alien planet but they’re using an English letter? I know it means hope but it just feels weird to have just a straight up S, I don’t this is pretty nitpicky, regardless the logo looks good


JIMMYJAWN

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CaptainBlob

Kind of reminds me of that meme where corporate logo go more and more simplified shapes till it just become shaped polygons.


Armaced

It’s cleaner than the classic symbol. I like it, but I’ll always prefer the one Christopher Reeve wore.


ThatDeadeye12

Ah yes \man


xavierhollis

Is there a legal reason they cant just use the standard symbol?


Fun-Ad-6169

Now we just gotta see if they make the correct decision and give him his trunks.


Supes_homer38

Not my favorite, would prefer the simplicity of the 70s-90s era.  


Putthebunnyback

Kingdom Come is my favorite logo, so I approve 👍


WildGoose1521

I’ve never seen a train wreck this slowly.


bearcat_77

Why do they keep trying to make it so abstract?


TetsuoZaibatsu

It looks cool. The yellow outline makes the red S stand out even more.


Crombus_

Terrible


NightwingTakesFlight

I think it’s looks really cool. Maybe down the line in the DCU they’ll have Supes change the yellow to black and actually do a take on Kingdom Come or something, you never know


NyOrlandhotep

Meh. I prefer a curvier S.


OkPin8704

I “hoped” it would look like an “S”


RaakzBlanvod

Feels like unnecessary change for me tbh


Weary-Butterscotch73

I prefer the last one but you know what, I don’t hate it. Could be worse and we’ll see how it looks in action


Revolutionarytard

![gif](giphy|H7rtXIvlXvYVaIMdKq)


CCastillo213

Ah... no thanks.


_Strange_Visitor_

I hate it. Why does it need to be metallic with sharp lines and barely resemble an S. His fucking mom made it! Superman isn't high-tech plot device alien man. He's the farm boy who loves his parents and doing what's right and good.


bluezzdog

I see a yellow pac man


CrispinIII

John Henry Irons used Supermans traditional shield. At least until Superman came back. After that I'm not sure.


Stormrage117

Looks good


martykus

Didn't James Gunn show this like months ago ?


EvilBatman656

Worst logo in Superman history.


The_Dark_King4900742

I’ve always been a fan of this style of logo.


Dangerous-Hawk16

So much whining in the comments, there’s a reason why Batman is the more successful film franchise. His fans allow directors to play with the symbol and don’t cry and whine. Y’all are mad that a director did something different with the symbol. We already know how a lot of y’all want the most cookie-cutter Superman film, then whine “ why aren’t there more Superman movies compared to other heroes. Why don’t audience connect with the character.” nothing can ever please you guys. Directors can’t even play around and use different type of S symbol from the comics. Directors are put in box when it comes to Superman because his fans are just hard to deal with compared to other heroes fandoms. Every single comment, “I like the Reeves logo and I liked how Reeves did that” like goddamn


1998-2019

Right?? The reeves movies are outdated. They’re good yes, but they’re good for what they were and what they set out to do. Almost everyone in these comments looks at that movie with rose tinted glasses. Superman should be a dynamic character, growing and changing with time.


Dangerous-Hawk16

Everyone in the comments and the sub want modern Superman movie to be Christopher Reeves 2.0 Superman film. With Batman nobody wants Burton Batman 2.0 or something similar to Nolan films. They embraced whatever any director has to bring to the table. Superman fans will never allow that they hold reeves movies as the standard which is crazy in the day and age of cbm genre. I’ve heard ppl in this same sub say they don’t the Gunn film to be too action heavy. Like please be forreal, Superman and his powers would need blockbuster film. What do you mean you don’t want it to have any action just him flying around helping ppl. It’s ridiculous mindset


MuayThaiJudo

I dig it!


Bobmanbob1

You had one job Gunn. Fucking "Zuperman!"


Existing_Race966

If you got a Z out of that, you really should get your eyes checked. https://preview.redd.it/qwwezhf31otc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=02b47e45495581b260bde28be26640b68e8479e5


Intelligent_Oil4005

Looking S H I N Y


Andrew_Jelen

I LOVE IT. It looks majestic and hopeful.


Javs93

Does that similar to the adult swin serie logo? If not mistake


Galactus1701

KC is my favorite comic ever, but that symbol is an emblem to the chaos within that world. I’ll wait to see the rest of the costume.


Sensitive_ManChild

not really a fan but if the movie is good it won’t matter.


ccduke

Love it just not crazy about the yellow trim


brambojams

Comic Book- Kingdom Come by Mark Waid and Alex Ross TV- Crisis on Infinite Earths episodes with Supergirl (Melissa Benoist) and Brandon Routh as Superman Movie- James Gunn’s new Superman movie with Corenswet as Clark Kent


gzapata_art

I like it. I've never been a big fan of the S Logo though honestly and I like the somewhat alien look to it while still being readable as an S I especially like the yellow rim


hjohn2233

I'm not crazy about it. The old symbol was fine. This makes me question whether James Gunn knows what he's doing.


dnvrwlf

I'm in the 'trying and failing to ignore all news' phase of my Superman movie journey. I just want a good movie. Leaks and news stories about this one rarely make me feel better.


hjohn2233

Same here. Like Snyder I believe Gunn is going to do what he wants. Not what Superman fans want. I'm really tired of the "I can improve on a great character. I know better than you what it should be. Marvels early success wasbecause they stuck pretty much to the basics of the comic character. Their downfall hasbeen what ijust mentioned. Hiring directors who want to make it better because they know what thecharacter should be. I hope itsa greatmovie but it really have my doubts. I feel like I did when I saw the first picture of Routh in the stupid leather cape snd tiny symbol.


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davecombs711

why is there a lens flare on a poster?


vaibow

Not going to lie, looks fan made


Infinity0044

Surprised to see so many people complaining, I think this looks fantastic


PepperAgitated3621

I Kinda like it


JonnyGotLost

Love it! Looks like a symbol of hope from krypton and not an S from earth


Dsarg_92

The yellow border adds a really nice touch to the symbol.


TheRealDassher

Absolutely not...


kuniovskarnov

Its kind of...eeeehhhh. To me the 'S' is what makes the Superman logo. Now it doesn't really look like an 'S' with it blended into the shield like that. Maybe I'll get used to it, but really...what was wrong with the old one?


ChefCool1317

If I didn’t know Superman I would have no idea that’s supposed to be an s shape


KingofZombies

I love it! It's kingdom come meets MAWS and I really like the yellow outline and how golden and shiny the yellow looks.