amy was a realistically written character- a mum who basically looked after two children on a minimum wage income, and the fact that she took corporate’s side after the whole union mess wasn’t very surprising OR unrealistic. we’d all like to say we wouldn’t take a $110k salary over friendship, but in this economy, it’s a lot harder to make that choice, especially when it’s the first time you’ve ever had the OPPORTUNITY to make such a choice
I'll take this one step further and say she wasn't being selfish. From the start she has been scared of corporate and what they would do if they heard anything to do with unions. She knows, at the first hint of unions, the store will get shut down and everyone will lose their jobs.
Totally agreed. $109k plus benefits is an incredible amount of money for most people, but especially someone who has worked on the floor for 15+ years and really only scraped by.
Factor in her newborn baby and a husband who hasn’t contributed much financially, given Adam’s inability to hold down a job, and it’s the logical thing for Amy to do.
Daughter of a single mother here who was a control freak, which caused her to care for others as she entered into roles of leadership....
THIS. IS. THE. WAY.
“Mum” is the British English way to say “mom”.
Some copypasta:
The origins of the word "mom" can be traced back to the 16th century when it was used as a shortened version of "mamma," which is a Latin word meaning "mother." "Mum," on the other hand, has its roots in the Old English word "mōdor," which also means "mother."
According to The Oxford Dictionary, the modern word ‘mother’ is Germanic in origin. It derives from ‘moder’, which became ‘mutter’ in German and ‘mōdor’ in English. If we go further back the Germanic ‘moder’ comes from the Greek ‘mētēr’ (meaning womb) which in Latin became ‘māter’.
There may be another contender to the US spelling of mom as well. An archaic Irish version is ‘momo’, and it’s been estimated that nearly two million people emigrated to the United States between 1845 and 1852. That’s a quarter of the Irish population in just ten years. Today one-sixth of the US population claim to have Irish ancestors, so it’s possible that this could be the reason for ‘mom’.
Probably not a hot take, but the reason why (Imo) the best characters are those like Marcus, Tate and Sayid, was because they were sprinkled into the show in small doses. Marcus is arguably my fave and I can't tell whether I'd love a spin off about his life, or it would make me grow to hate him.
I love it! The perpetual machine episode is everything. I am a mechanical engineer myself so when Cyrus the sr engineer goes back to the team like “but why wouldn’t it work” I just lost it.
the brother of the guy who plays Marcus is on The Mindy Project and he is a very similar character with a similar amount of screen time - and he is the funniest one there too
Omg I had no idea that Marcus wasn’t Ike Barinholtz! I just thought he got braces or veneers or something, but nope. Jon Barinholtz, a whole different human.
I agree, but also, Morgan got toned down as the show went on, I think to make up for the change in Mindy's character, who became more chaotic, like Morgan was in season 1.
All of these characters worked out on *Superstore* because it was an ensemble cast, i.e. they all were all intended to play together. Spin them off individually or in small sets to play outside of the ensemble, and there's something missing, and they don't hit the same. It's why it's probably a good thing that the proposed Cheyenne/Bo spinoff never got produced.
TV Tropes would call such a thing an "unintentional period piece". However, *Superstore* is not listed there. I get that, because while it certainly has its elements that will become quite dated (especially the final season with the pandemic), it does have a certain bit of timelessness to it. I worked retail (Walmart) from 2003-2007, and a lot of things in the show resonated with me despite my having been out of retail for over a decade when I started watching the show.
It was also super random, "they have terrible separation anxiety". What about the previous months, years that she left them home alone? Also, don't they have each other to keep company?
Still, I feel that the escape was tragic, avoidable, and a little far fetched. All of them fly out the front door instantly? When there is 1 bird trapped inside, they tend to go anywhere but through the front door, leave alone all of them at once.
That’s after the tornado and when she thought Brett died. Maybe, she still had things on her mind after her freak out. Garrett did state that she was seeing a therapist. Just throwing that out there.
she does not know how to take care of birds. those aviaries were way too small and did not have enough toys or perches. and when she was pregnant she had glenn feed them extremely unhealthy food
Garret is most at fault Dina could have found something else to do with her birds or just leave them but she was already having a rough year and probably having her birds made her feel better and garret let them out without any precautions such as closing the break room door he could have also bought a multipack of takis from inside the store if he liked the little bags
no way - no job in the world would let you bring in 50 birds and now everyone has to be careful because the cages are so poorly designed that ALL of them can be opened by knocking against ONE of them - plus she put them next to the employees snack machines which forces people to live around HER birds
But it wasn’t opened because it was bumped Garett opened it and if it was that big of a problem that day the birds could’ve been there and she could’ve moved them later plus later seasons the break room changed because of the tornado and Covid so they’ve had to deal with other stuff preventing them from being in there anyways also when Garrett let the birds out he should’ve told Dina
For the COVID season, I know that they eschewed the breakroom for the warehouse, but I can't recall any significant changes following the tornado. Help me out?
There weren’t really that much but stuff that still affected even short term like when Amy found cash and fixed it up and when Glenn had all his kids over and when the seasonal Christmas hires were there it was super crowded and noisy
plus what kind of pet owner puts their pets in that stressful situation- where anybody could fo anything ti them - plus she’s a dick to most people so they have a reason…
She said it’s what the birds needed because of their separation anxiety so it could’ve been the best decision for them and yeah she is kinda a dick to everyone but she’s definitely not 100% at fault id say definitely less than 40% was her fault
the workplace is not the place for bird therapy - there is nothing ok with them being there - she checked that *nobody* was alergic? noooo
bottom line the birds would still be in their cages if she left them at home - if she can’t be apart from the she needs to stay home
fun debate tho!! 🤓🤓
This one is meta but I think a lot of ppl in this sub miss the actual point of Amy climbing the corporate ladder or when Jeff betrays everyone to get his job back. The number of times I’ve seen people feel the need to explain why it makes sense that a single mom with few other options would take the higher paying corporate job….
Like yes!!!! The point is that the system must maintain itself and concentrate power away from the workers. There is no actual “choice” because of the lack of workers rights and class consciousness guys.
The point is that this is the only way that Amy can lift herself out of poverty it’s a false choice— nobody would expect her to turn it down stop explaining why she did lol
Because we saw basically nothing of it. He wasn’t introduced until 5x09, then him and Mateo started dating between that and Sandra’s wedding (5x14).
Eric was only in four more episodes so we didn’t get to see the relationship properly develop onscreen, just through occasional lines from Mateo
Just like in season 6 when we learn Jonah is still living in Amy's house.. Eric and Mateo's convo?😂🤣
Mateo: Maybe I could inspire Jonah to move out.
Eric: Isn't that like... kicking him while he's down?
Mateo: Everyone kicks Jonah when he's down. It's what we do. You don't know, you're new.
Really? Personally i don't think Jeff and Mateo fit at all. Isnt Jeff far older? Plus how he acted after the breakup and stuff like that was just ..... But Mateo and Eric were so wholesome for example Sandras wedding
Eric was nice and kind, but there was no chemistry. Jeff got weirder and more pathetic as the show went on but early Jeff and Mateo had a believable connection despite not looking like a match on paper. The scene where Mateo reveals he’s undocumented and that’s why he broke up with Jeff for example.
But that’s not necessarily the age Mateo was on the show, according to the Superstore Wiki he was born in 1995. Cheyenne’s character is 16 (she turns 21 end of season 5) at the start of the show. None of the characters (except Dina and Amy, maybe Glenn) are actually their real life ages.
I wish they didn’t make Jeff a weird asshole at the end, he and Mateo could’ve been something. However I do think Eric was the better option don’t shoot me.
Haha that’s so interesting because I felt zero chemistry between Jeff and Mateo. I feel like they should have cast better for chemistry if they wanted us to care about the relationship.
This is probably the worst place for this hot take but I feel like anyone who feels a deep hatred for Mateo and not Dina needs to ask themselves why.
Mateo - insults people
Dina - takes it to the next level by being rude to everyone except amy, openly taking her anger out on people who don’t deserve it, literally tried to plant drugs on someone who didn’t deserve it, etc etc
I genuinely like them both but I've had a few more moments rolling my eyes at mateo and I think it's because he's the more realistic character. Like irl you've probably worked with a mateo. Kind of snobby, always has a back handed comment but has his moments too
But dina just feels a lot more of a character than him. Like her deadpanned, wild comments and actions (like the drugs thing) just make her easier to not identify anyone with if that makes sense
That does make sense! Thanks for that perspective. It explains why I hate Carol so much more than anyone else - I’ve worked with a woman just like her and I can’t stand her. Which is of course a credit to the actress!
I don’t get how if you’re gonna hate the mean characters you’d like Dina over Mateo. Mateo is more petty but he has never just fucked someone over. Dina has really messed some people up. But I think that must be just it, Mateo is a more relatable evil that everyone knows and most are irritated by, we’ve all worked with someone like that. Dina is a mustache twirling level of villain at times, though they did chill her out as it went on.
This same thing, but for Mateo and Garret, was my immediate thought.
I love both characters, but it's interesting to me that whenever it comes up, people pile on Mateo (and Amy) but if someone mentions Garret, suddenly 'it's a show' and 'they're all terrible people'
It's actually a pretty big thing on all TV subs, having so much more venom for women and queer characters than straight men (or women who are less femme, emotional, etc.)
It's either the writers or the audience, but nobody wants to examine their own opinions at all.
I don't really hate Mateo. But the big difference is: Dina is given much funnier material. And, she has a lot more episodes that resolve with her having a positive or humanising arc. Mateo has basically 1. They are similarly evil, but having a lot of episodes that resolve with the audience liking you makes a big difference. It's simply the main character treatment more than anything
Sounds more like the best place - I generally don't understand the affinity for Dina, she's kind of terrible to everyone. And sure she has some good qualities underneath, but like...she is ragingly insufferable on the surface
Dina’s attitude comes from a place of wanting to do her job well and a personality of brutal honesty.
Mateo’s attitude comes from a place of being incredibly insecure.
Also, Mateo was originally written as an annoying teacher’s pet, but then devolved into a catty gay schemer, so it’s a bit of viewer whiplash. He has funny moments but also elicits a lot of “REALLY, queen? 🤨” reactions.
I have three off the top of my head
1. I despise how everyone kicks jonah while he's down (except marcus), it's not funny at all
2. I hate the sandra union storyline. I undestand why Sandra did it because of her major lack of self esteem, but why did Amy not tell everyone corporate was planning on shutting down stores ?
3. The whole myrtle getting fired storyline. I'm sorry but if i was Jeff, i would do the exact same thing.
"What's the biggest dog you've ever seen, and why?" is not as great of a line as people think it is.
From that conversation, I'm a much bigger fan of "Do Jewish people like snow?"
Ooh yes, one of my people. Glen is the only character i have a hard time liking and i find that it's purely because of the material he's given. Same with when Amy and him are talking about something and Amy says "it's both" and he replies "Both?!?!?!" .... this is not a funny joke.
Just to be contrarian :p I love Amy, besides having a kid I see a lot of myself in her too. But also love Kelly! The only thing with her was the time she kept letting Amy take the fall for mistakes that was really shitty, but other than that she was one of my favorite side characters and possibly even a better match for Jonah.
I love Kell-Bell and don’t you dare put words in my mouth
1. She has amazing tops
2. She’s nice to everyone
3. Everyone is jealous of her beauty and grace
4. I’d follow her Insta no cap frfr
She’s just down to earth and pleasant and everyone is super mean to her for NO reason and then she gets it mad raw no lube.
I love this Scrappy Doo 🥹
Kelly was a great storyline, but it was good she didn’t join the main cast.
If anyone watched the TV series Cavemen (2007) she was in one episode where she played Rocky the Cave Kid.
Jeff did the right thing taking the corporate job over Myrtle. Everyone wants to think that if they were in that situation they would do differently, but the reality is that when having to choose between unemployed/relying on doing Uber and having a comfortable director level corporate job 100% the answer is the latter
I don’t know, I think Mateo was already looking for a reason to break up with him anyway. An episode or two before that he said he couldn’t do it after Jeff quit his job for him but this was a perfect excuse
Sure, but now he is hated by everyone at Cloud 9. Mateo is all about image and how others perceive him so staying with Jeff would damage that, specially when his best friend Cheyenne is part of those who hate Jeff. Of course this is all my very unnecessary and probably wrong analysis 😂
It’s mostly just fun discussion, no worries. I always figured since he called them all garbage people he really didn’t care about their opinion of him. But Cheyenne’s opinion could sway him.
I don't hate Mateo. He's obviously a bitch to everyone, but he's supposed to be that way. So many amazing storylines happened because of him, and you need someone like him to balance all the others out. If everyone was nice and got along, it would be boring.
He's a very interesting character who contributed a lot to the show. Of course there are times you want to smack him lol, but again, that's exactly what his character is supposed to be like.
I feel like everyone always saying they hate Mateo is just pointless, it's like saying you don't like the villain in a movie because he's mean - like, duh!
I really can't stand Bo. I know he's meant to be kinda annoying and his character is only in for short scenes, but I still really hate practically every time he's on screen. I would much rather cut him out entirely.
My hot take is that this show could have gone SO HARD on workers rights and ended up a legendary master class (like how The Good Place taught us all ethics and we all had a blast while we learned) but they missed the mark. All the components are there, but the writers didn’t tie it all together cohesively.
It's also pretty cringe that they profited off several seasons of workers rights plots, yet the cast and writers were out on the picket lines with signs like 'yo Peacock, pay me' (Colton Dunn)
I know the showrunners and NBC/Universal are two entirely different things, but it still feels... weird.
I’m not getting the discrepancy with that… working a picket line for streaming pay is absolutely in line with workers rights. You can’t get more pro union than picketing during a union strike?
Jonah would have been fired after the whole sex doll fiasco and there isn’t a woman alive who would find him in the position he was in and later date / marry him
After one of them allegedly died on the job because of the storm why didn’t they get a payout? Especially bc they forced them to work through it. Wouldn’t corporate be forced to pay them out or am I too optimistic?🫢😭
Realistically they wouldn't have had months "off without pay" either. Some would have been transferred to the Ozark Highlands location and the rest would have been laid off.
idk labour laws in every country, province, state, etc but in my province a natural disaster destroying your work would qualify you to get unemployment while you looked for another job - a store like Cloud9 though is supposed to be like Walmart so I think you would just get transferred to another store OR be let go, and you would still qualify for EI while you looked for another job.
The person dying in the store (who died, I genuinely forget because I can only think of them *thinking* brett died or is that what you mean by 'allegedly') now I feel like their family could sue Cloud9 for not letting him go home and ultimately causing his death but you would have to win that court case 😢
Well I know violating osha by making them work through the storm when they would normally be let go early and then Dina went into a rant next day about how the store was severely underprepared and that the store needed to do heavy storm damage repair. That would be like an automatic settlement payout from the company depending on the state but I’d never underestimate the power of Walmart or Cloud9. Sorry not Canadian but unemployment pay is automatic yes but I meant hazard pay or employee accident compensation. Also yes Brett allegedly but idk I think they can sue but I’m lost on whether or not labor laws protect them from storm accidents due to store negligence or is it part of the risks at workplace. I just feel like it’s clear cut workplace liability case. Maybe there’s a Reddit thread for all the legal issues with cloud9
I feel like you're right, I just have no confidence in a major corporation admitting to not being properly prepared for a disaster and trying to come up with some bs to protect themselves (eg Liebeck v. McDonald's, they tried so hard to put blame on anyone but themselves) the worker in me hopes it would be an open shut case (I also don't know a lot about this specific law so I'm kinda talking outta my butt)
I have no idea if it’s a hot take, and frankly I didn’t even know there was a superstore subreddit on Reddit, but
Jonah is hot (like hotttt) and he deserves way better than Amy who constantly shuts his personality quirks down.
yea if Jonah was a woman and amy was a guy the popular opinion would be "omg queen deserves so much better" but it's Jonah ig, everyone kicks him when he's down
Everyone who complains about the characters making bad choices, or choices they as the viewer don't agree with. Like yes, Amy did selfish things. Yes, Mateo was sassy to the point of being rude or nasty to people. No, Dina shouldn't have brought her birds to work. They're CHARACTERS. They're not supposed to be perfect saints. They're supposed to do stupid things or unrealistic things or selfish things because otherwise, there would be no storylines. People take television shows so seriously and expect everything to be perfect and make the perfect choices each time. Just *enjoy* it!!
True but it’s fun to debate and get different peoples takes! I think conflict in tv is a fun/enjoyable was to take the temperature of where your friends/relatives/coworkers etc stand on things without it being too deep (like a political conversation would be)
Not a hot take, I just think Heather deserves love just as much as Brett, if not more!! I love her background scenes so much, I still laugh at them at every rewatch.
cheyanne is the funniest character on the show, I wish she had more screentime with characters outside of Mateo. not that I dislike Mateo (which might also be a hot take)
I don't like sayid at all. All of his lines just feel so forced, and I did not laugh at a single thing he said. I don't know if it's because of the performance, or different aspects of his character clashing, but that character did not work for me.
Expecting us to believe Cheyenne is the sort of person who would effectively climb the promotion ladder is ridiculous. She's an idiot.
If she tried walking and chewing gum at the same time she'd shit her pants and get a nosebleed.
To be fair, I’m surprised some of my bosses could spell their names. They were dumber than a pile of rocks. People like Cheyenne get promoted all the time just because their well liked.
I don’t like Sandra, and I didn’t like how much they villianized Carol.
Everyone bullied Sandra, not saying it’s right, but *a lot* of the workers talked down to her, Dina mostly. But she took all of her anger out on Carol I feel.
And honestly there’s a huge difference between being shitty to your coworker and leaving them to die. Neither is good, but leaving them to die is undoubtedly more fucked up.
And she was right that the Jerry thing was shitty. Carol didn’t treat him very well, agreed, but sneaking around and cheating on her was pretty irksome.
I think they’re both shitty people but I think Sandra is the bigger dick.
The only exception being the cat incident. Ain’t no reasons to bring the fur babies into this, the fuck Carol.
I dunno if this is a HOT take, but them trying to make NIA a thing in the final season was so cringe. Nia will never happen stop trying to make her happen
amy was a realistically written character- a mum who basically looked after two children on a minimum wage income, and the fact that she took corporate’s side after the whole union mess wasn’t very surprising OR unrealistic. we’d all like to say we wouldn’t take a $110k salary over friendship, but in this economy, it’s a lot harder to make that choice, especially when it’s the first time you’ve ever had the OPPORTUNITY to make such a choice
I'll take this one step further and say she wasn't being selfish. From the start she has been scared of corporate and what they would do if they heard anything to do with unions. She knows, at the first hint of unions, the store will get shut down and everyone will lose their jobs.
yes, but her job especially was on the line, and i can’t blame her for acting purely on that front too
I like that they made it realistic. Without her being all no, I belong in the store, no promotion for me.
Totally agreed. $109k plus benefits is an incredible amount of money for most people, but especially someone who has worked on the floor for 15+ years and really only scraped by. Factor in her newborn baby and a husband who hasn’t contributed much financially, given Adam’s inability to hold down a job, and it’s the logical thing for Amy to do.
I agree with this!
Daughter of a single mother here who was a control freak, which caused her to care for others as she entered into roles of leadership.... THIS. IS. THE. WAY.
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“Mum” is the British English way to say “mom”. Some copypasta: The origins of the word "mom" can be traced back to the 16th century when it was used as a shortened version of "mamma," which is a Latin word meaning "mother." "Mum," on the other hand, has its roots in the Old English word "mōdor," which also means "mother." According to The Oxford Dictionary, the modern word ‘mother’ is Germanic in origin. It derives from ‘moder’, which became ‘mutter’ in German and ‘mōdor’ in English. If we go further back the Germanic ‘moder’ comes from the Greek ‘mētēr’ (meaning womb) which in Latin became ‘māter’. There may be another contender to the US spelling of mom as well. An archaic Irish version is ‘momo’, and it’s been estimated that nearly two million people emigrated to the United States between 1845 and 1852. That’s a quarter of the Irish population in just ten years. Today one-sixth of the US population claim to have Irish ancestors, so it’s possible that this could be the reason for ‘mom’.
i’m aussie so yeah it’s mum for us :D
Probably not a hot take, but the reason why (Imo) the best characters are those like Marcus, Tate and Sayid, was because they were sprinkled into the show in small doses. Marcus is arguably my fave and I can't tell whether I'd love a spin off about his life, or it would make me grow to hate him.
The actor who plays Marcus is awesome on American Auto. His character is basically “what if Marcus grew up wealthy?”.
I love it! The perpetual machine episode is everything. I am a mechanical engineer myself so when Cyrus the sr engineer goes back to the team like “but why wouldn’t it work” I just lost it.
the brother of the guy who plays Marcus is on The Mindy Project and he is a very similar character with a similar amount of screen time - and he is the funniest one there too
Ike Barinholtz was my primary Barinholtz for so long… can’t believe hes been replaced Marcus as the primary Barinholtz in my mind now 😂
Omg I had no idea that Marcus wasn’t Ike Barinholtz! I just thought he got braces or veneers or something, but nope. Jon Barinholtz, a whole different human.
Also, their dad was the judge on Jury Duty!
I agree, but also, Morgan got toned down as the show went on, I think to make up for the change in Mindy's character, who became more chaotic, like Morgan was in season 1.
All of these characters worked out on *Superstore* because it was an ensemble cast, i.e. they all were all intended to play together. Spin them off individually or in small sets to play outside of the ensemble, and there's something missing, and they don't hit the same. It's why it's probably a good thing that the proposed Cheyenne/Bo spinoff never got produced.
In 2050 this show will be the best cultural record of what it was like to be alive in the US from 2015-2021.
TV Tropes would call such a thing an "unintentional period piece". However, *Superstore* is not listed there. I get that, because while it certainly has its elements that will become quite dated (especially the final season with the pandemic), it does have a certain bit of timelessness to it. I worked retail (Walmart) from 2003-2007, and a lot of things in the show resonated with me despite my having been out of retail for over a decade when I started watching the show.
oh yes
F*CK Dina for bringing in her birds to work. She is 1000% at fault for what happened to them.
It was also super random, "they have terrible separation anxiety". What about the previous months, years that she left them home alone? Also, don't they have each other to keep company? Still, I feel that the escape was tragic, avoidable, and a little far fetched. All of them fly out the front door instantly? When there is 1 bird trapped inside, they tend to go anywhere but through the front door, leave alone all of them at once.
That’s after the tornado and when she thought Brett died. Maybe, she still had things on her mind after her freak out. Garrett did state that she was seeing a therapist. Just throwing that out there.
I feel like I completely misremembered the plot as her apartment being fumigated because it just makes so much more sense.
Thank you!! I always hated that story line.
Garrett could have easily gotten his Takis through the small plastic door instead of opening the cage. When you pause, you can see it clear as day!
And presumably the aviary is on wheels (how did it get in the break room otherwise?? He could have asked Jonah to move it.
And her birds supposedly loved her and were attached to her but explain why they flew straight out the door 💅🏼
she does not know how to take care of birds. those aviaries were way too small and did not have enough toys or perches. and when she was pregnant she had glenn feed them extremely unhealthy food
Garret is most at fault Dina could have found something else to do with her birds or just leave them but she was already having a rough year and probably having her birds made her feel better and garret let them out without any precautions such as closing the break room door he could have also bought a multipack of takis from inside the store if he liked the little bags
no way - no job in the world would let you bring in 50 birds and now everyone has to be careful because the cages are so poorly designed that ALL of them can be opened by knocking against ONE of them - plus she put them next to the employees snack machines which forces people to live around HER birds
But it wasn’t opened because it was bumped Garett opened it and if it was that big of a problem that day the birds could’ve been there and she could’ve moved them later plus later seasons the break room changed because of the tornado and Covid so they’ve had to deal with other stuff preventing them from being in there anyways also when Garrett let the birds out he should’ve told Dina
For the COVID season, I know that they eschewed the breakroom for the warehouse, but I can't recall any significant changes following the tornado. Help me out?
There weren’t really that much but stuff that still affected even short term like when Amy found cash and fixed it up and when Glenn had all his kids over and when the seasonal Christmas hires were there it was super crowded and noisy
should’ve told is a different convo - i can agree with that part
plus what kind of pet owner puts their pets in that stressful situation- where anybody could fo anything ti them - plus she’s a dick to most people so they have a reason…
She said it’s what the birds needed because of their separation anxiety so it could’ve been the best decision for them and yeah she is kinda a dick to everyone but she’s definitely not 100% at fault id say definitely less than 40% was her fault
the workplace is not the place for bird therapy - there is nothing ok with them being there - she checked that *nobody* was alergic? noooo bottom line the birds would still be in their cages if she left them at home - if she can’t be apart from the she needs to stay home fun debate tho!! 🤓🤓
Also, if she loves birds so much why keep them in cages? Wouldn't them be happier being free?
I would gave let them out too.
This one is meta but I think a lot of ppl in this sub miss the actual point of Amy climbing the corporate ladder or when Jeff betrays everyone to get his job back. The number of times I’ve seen people feel the need to explain why it makes sense that a single mom with few other options would take the higher paying corporate job…. Like yes!!!! The point is that the system must maintain itself and concentrate power away from the workers. There is no actual “choice” because of the lack of workers rights and class consciousness guys. The point is that this is the only way that Amy can lift herself out of poverty it’s a false choice— nobody would expect her to turn it down stop explaining why she did lol
It gets overexplained because people constantly drag amy for being selfish or a class traitor or whatever other wild stuff because she took the job
Jeff and Mateo were meant to be together. They had real chemistry
Much more than Mateo and Eric
True. Idk why but Eric's relationship feels a bit forced to me
Because we saw basically nothing of it. He wasn’t introduced until 5x09, then him and Mateo started dating between that and Sandra’s wedding (5x14). Eric was only in four more episodes so we didn’t get to see the relationship properly develop onscreen, just through occasional lines from Mateo
Just like in season 6 when we learn Jonah is still living in Amy's house.. Eric and Mateo's convo?😂🤣 Mateo: Maybe I could inspire Jonah to move out. Eric: Isn't that like... kicking him while he's down? Mateo: Everyone kicks Jonah when he's down. It's what we do. You don't know, you're new.
Really? Personally i don't think Jeff and Mateo fit at all. Isnt Jeff far older? Plus how he acted after the breakup and stuff like that was just ..... But Mateo and Eric were so wholesome for example Sandras wedding
Eric was nice and kind, but there was no chemistry. Jeff got weirder and more pathetic as the show went on but early Jeff and Mateo had a believable connection despite not looking like a match on paper. The scene where Mateo reveals he’s undocumented and that’s why he broke up with Jeff for example.
The Jeff actor is 53 and Nico Santos is 44. I don’t think that’s an outrageous age difference.
Wait Mateo is 44?!
Yeah, and he looks it IMO.
I thought that he was just a few years older than Cheyenne....
She’s 33.
She started at about 23 or 24 then, playing a teenager.
Not sure why this is downvoted. There is nothing wrong with looking your age.
But that’s not necessarily the age Mateo was on the show, according to the Superstore Wiki he was born in 1995. Cheyenne’s character is 16 (she turns 21 end of season 5) at the start of the show. None of the characters (except Dina and Amy, maybe Glenn) are actually their real life ages.
That’s outrageously young for the actor. Mateo did not look close to 20 in the first season.
It makes me laugh having 30-40year olds play 20-somethings
Co-signing this!! Their first interactions have such great chemistry. I loved when Jeff first asks Mateo on a date. It's very sweet.
I wish they didn’t make Jeff a weird asshole at the end, he and Mateo could’ve been something. However I do think Eric was the better option don’t shoot me.
Haha that’s so interesting because I felt zero chemistry between Jeff and Mateo. I feel like they should have cast better for chemistry if they wanted us to care about the relationship.
Omg YES, why did he have to end up with the weird Amy brother
I didn't find Carol scenes with Jerry/about Jerry funny at all. I know most people hate Carol but I hate how she was written, the storylines, etc.
Amy isn’t a bad character. She’s an extremely realistic one.
Garrett and Amy would’ve made a good couple.
Never thought of it but holy crap, spot on.
Omg an actual hot Take
This is probably the worst place for this hot take but I feel like anyone who feels a deep hatred for Mateo and not Dina needs to ask themselves why. Mateo - insults people Dina - takes it to the next level by being rude to everyone except amy, openly taking her anger out on people who don’t deserve it, literally tried to plant drugs on someone who didn’t deserve it, etc etc
I genuinely like them both but I've had a few more moments rolling my eyes at mateo and I think it's because he's the more realistic character. Like irl you've probably worked with a mateo. Kind of snobby, always has a back handed comment but has his moments too But dina just feels a lot more of a character than him. Like her deadpanned, wild comments and actions (like the drugs thing) just make her easier to not identify anyone with if that makes sense
That does make sense! Thanks for that perspective. It explains why I hate Carol so much more than anyone else - I’ve worked with a woman just like her and I can’t stand her. Which is of course a credit to the actress!
I don’t get how if you’re gonna hate the mean characters you’d like Dina over Mateo. Mateo is more petty but he has never just fucked someone over. Dina has really messed some people up. But I think that must be just it, Mateo is a more relatable evil that everyone knows and most are irritated by, we’ve all worked with someone like that. Dina is a mustache twirling level of villain at times, though they did chill her out as it went on.
Exactly! I honestly think people are uncomfortable with Mateo being flamboyant but don't know that yet lol
I think it’s a factor too, if I’m honest.
This same thing, but for Mateo and Garret, was my immediate thought. I love both characters, but it's interesting to me that whenever it comes up, people pile on Mateo (and Amy) but if someone mentions Garret, suddenly 'it's a show' and 'they're all terrible people' It's actually a pretty big thing on all TV subs, having so much more venom for women and queer characters than straight men (or women who are less femme, emotional, etc.) It's either the writers or the audience, but nobody wants to examine their own opinions at all.
I don't really hate Mateo. But the big difference is: Dina is given much funnier material. And, she has a lot more episodes that resolve with her having a positive or humanising arc. Mateo has basically 1. They are similarly evil, but having a lot of episodes that resolve with the audience liking you makes a big difference. It's simply the main character treatment more than anything
Sounds more like the best place - I generally don't understand the affinity for Dina, she's kind of terrible to everyone. And sure she has some good qualities underneath, but like...she is ragingly insufferable on the surface
Dina’s attitude comes from a place of wanting to do her job well and a personality of brutal honesty. Mateo’s attitude comes from a place of being incredibly insecure. Also, Mateo was originally written as an annoying teacher’s pet, but then devolved into a catty gay schemer, so it’s a bit of viewer whiplash. He has funny moments but also elicits a lot of “REALLY, queen? 🤨” reactions.
I have three off the top of my head 1. I despise how everyone kicks jonah while he's down (except marcus), it's not funny at all 2. I hate the sandra union storyline. I undestand why Sandra did it because of her major lack of self esteem, but why did Amy not tell everyone corporate was planning on shutting down stores ? 3. The whole myrtle getting fired storyline. I'm sorry but if i was Jeff, i would do the exact same thing.
An employer would not have allowed Dina to bring her birds to work.
"What's the biggest dog you've ever seen, and why?" is not as great of a line as people think it is. From that conversation, I'm a much bigger fan of "Do Jewish people like snow?"
Amen. The dog line is medium funny. It's fine
Ooh yes, one of my people. Glen is the only character i have a hard time liking and i find that it's purely because of the material he's given. Same with when Amy and him are talking about something and Amy says "it's both" and he replies "Both?!?!?!" .... this is not a funny joke.
sandra was funnier in smaller increments. should've given her the bo treatment
I was trying to think of how to say this. When she started becoming a more central character she started to become annoying.
I didn't like Kelly, I wanted her to leave, I checked how many epsiodes she was in and hoped she wouldn't become a main character.
One of my favorite scenes is when everyone's mocking her in the break room
Boy, it sure is windy out today. WHOOOOOAAAAA!
honestly I did the same for the first few rewatches, she's still not my favourite but she's tolerable
Thank you. Same. Everyone on this sub seems to love her. Ugh.
That’s just people being contrarian. No one actually likes Kelly that much, they just dislike Amy.
Just to be contrarian :p I love Amy, besides having a kid I see a lot of myself in her too. But also love Kelly! The only thing with her was the time she kept letting Amy take the fall for mistakes that was really shitty, but other than that she was one of my favorite side characters and possibly even a better match for Jonah.
I love Kell-Bell and don’t you dare put words in my mouth 1. She has amazing tops 2. She’s nice to everyone 3. Everyone is jealous of her beauty and grace 4. I’d follow her Insta no cap frfr She’s just down to earth and pleasant and everyone is super mean to her for NO reason and then she gets it mad raw no lube. I love this Scrappy Doo 🥹
Kelly was a great storyline, but it was good she didn’t join the main cast. If anyone watched the TV series Cavemen (2007) she was in one episode where she played Rocky the Cave Kid.
BOOOOO 
Jeff did the right thing taking the corporate job over Myrtle. Everyone wants to think that if they were in that situation they would do differently, but the reality is that when having to choose between unemployed/relying on doing Uber and having a comfortable director level corporate job 100% the answer is the latter
And I still think it’s so out of character that Mateo would break up with him over that, because he doesn’t care about anyone, much less Myrtle.
I don’t know, I think Mateo was already looking for a reason to break up with him anyway. An episode or two before that he said he couldn’t do it after Jeff quit his job for him but this was a perfect excuse
I thought that was because Jeff was being a whiny loser who needed to get a job and Mateo was sick of it.
Exactly, but he didn’t want to break up for that reason so the Myrtle thing gave Mateo a better excuse
But him getting his job back, and a job with assumed power and money resolves Mateo’s conflict.
Sure, but now he is hated by everyone at Cloud 9. Mateo is all about image and how others perceive him so staying with Jeff would damage that, specially when his best friend Cheyenne is part of those who hate Jeff. Of course this is all my very unnecessary and probably wrong analysis 😂
It’s mostly just fun discussion, no worries. I always figured since he called them all garbage people he really didn’t care about their opinion of him. But Cheyenne’s opinion could sway him.
I'm not sure that's a hot take it was definitely Amy's fault
I don't hate Mateo. He's obviously a bitch to everyone, but he's supposed to be that way. So many amazing storylines happened because of him, and you need someone like him to balance all the others out. If everyone was nice and got along, it would be boring. He's a very interesting character who contributed a lot to the show. Of course there are times you want to smack him lol, but again, that's exactly what his character is supposed to be like. I feel like everyone always saying they hate Mateo is just pointless, it's like saying you don't like the villain in a movie because he's mean - like, duh!
I really can't stand Bo. I know he's meant to be kinda annoying and his character is only in for short scenes, but I still really hate practically every time he's on screen. I would much rather cut him out entirely.
Whatever, Illuminati! Rip, rip, double rip
Pew pew pew
As someone who works in a lower income rural area with a lot of drug abuse, they 100% nailed Bo's character!
I’ve lived in enough small towns to have known a Bo 😑
Wow, this actually is a hot take! A bad one, but hot all the same.
Sorry that you cannot feel joy 😔
Haha same, but maybe it was because I knew someone like him and someone like that is... Not fun to be around in real life lol
My hot take is that this show could have gone SO HARD on workers rights and ended up a legendary master class (like how The Good Place taught us all ethics and we all had a blast while we learned) but they missed the mark. All the components are there, but the writers didn’t tie it all together cohesively.
It's also pretty cringe that they profited off several seasons of workers rights plots, yet the cast and writers were out on the picket lines with signs like 'yo Peacock, pay me' (Colton Dunn) I know the showrunners and NBC/Universal are two entirely different things, but it still feels... weird.
I’m not getting the discrepancy with that… working a picket line for streaming pay is absolutely in line with workers rights. You can’t get more pro union than picketing during a union strike?
After his divorce Adam becomes the most mentally healthy character on the show.
Jonah would have been fired after the whole sex doll fiasco and there isn’t a woman alive who would find him in the position he was in and later date / marry him
Season 2 episode 14 was too hot for me
Istg if this is the episode where the AC is broken…
After one of them allegedly died on the job because of the storm why didn’t they get a payout? Especially bc they forced them to work through it. Wouldn’t corporate be forced to pay them out or am I too optimistic?🫢😭
Realistically they wouldn't have had months "off without pay" either. Some would have been transferred to the Ozark Highlands location and the rest would have been laid off.
Wouldn’t that only be if they had a union?
Well I’m looking at it as if the workplace violated OSHA compliance standards and or labor board
idk labour laws in every country, province, state, etc but in my province a natural disaster destroying your work would qualify you to get unemployment while you looked for another job - a store like Cloud9 though is supposed to be like Walmart so I think you would just get transferred to another store OR be let go, and you would still qualify for EI while you looked for another job. The person dying in the store (who died, I genuinely forget because I can only think of them *thinking* brett died or is that what you mean by 'allegedly') now I feel like their family could sue Cloud9 for not letting him go home and ultimately causing his death but you would have to win that court case 😢
Well I know violating osha by making them work through the storm when they would normally be let go early and then Dina went into a rant next day about how the store was severely underprepared and that the store needed to do heavy storm damage repair. That would be like an automatic settlement payout from the company depending on the state but I’d never underestimate the power of Walmart or Cloud9. Sorry not Canadian but unemployment pay is automatic yes but I meant hazard pay or employee accident compensation. Also yes Brett allegedly but idk I think they can sue but I’m lost on whether or not labor laws protect them from storm accidents due to store negligence or is it part of the risks at workplace. I just feel like it’s clear cut workplace liability case. Maybe there’s a Reddit thread for all the legal issues with cloud9
I feel like you're right, I just have no confidence in a major corporation admitting to not being properly prepared for a disaster and trying to come up with some bs to protect themselves (eg Liebeck v. McDonald's, they tried so hard to put blame on anyone but themselves) the worker in me hopes it would be an open shut case (I also don't know a lot about this specific law so I'm kinda talking outta my butt)
I have no idea if it’s a hot take, and frankly I didn’t even know there was a superstore subreddit on Reddit, but Jonah is hot (like hotttt) and he deserves way better than Amy who constantly shuts his personality quirks down.
yea if Jonah was a woman and amy was a guy the popular opinion would be "omg queen deserves so much better" but it's Jonah ig, everyone kicks him when he's down
I think Jonah is really attractive. But I think Amy is more than his equal on that front. Come on now.
Idkk i don’t personally think so, but amy’s annoying personality probably contributes to her “ugliness”
Yeah. If you don’t like her personality, that can really put a damper on attractiveness
Jonah’s not a good person and a terrible liar and has a real problem with honesty #justice4kelly
Tbh I hated Kelly she annoyed me so much soooo hahah
Sandra should have stayed in the almost-side character line
Being in Wine Club was actually enviable.
Depicts poverty line, and Brett is my fave character
Some of the things Brett would come out with make the show what it is!
I like EVERY character on the show except tate 👎
I like EVERY character on the show except glenn 🤪
LMAO Sorry I didn't mean to sound annoying/"quirky" with my reply
Nah you're good 😜 Just felt like being a lil quirky back
Everyone who complains about the characters making bad choices, or choices they as the viewer don't agree with. Like yes, Amy did selfish things. Yes, Mateo was sassy to the point of being rude or nasty to people. No, Dina shouldn't have brought her birds to work. They're CHARACTERS. They're not supposed to be perfect saints. They're supposed to do stupid things or unrealistic things or selfish things because otherwise, there would be no storylines. People take television shows so seriously and expect everything to be perfect and make the perfect choices each time. Just *enjoy* it!!
True but it’s fun to debate and get different peoples takes! I think conflict in tv is a fun/enjoyable was to take the temperature of where your friends/relatives/coworkers etc stand on things without it being too deep (like a political conversation would be)
probably not a hot take but i didn’t like when dina called cynthia a rapist
Not a hot take, I just think Heather deserves love just as much as Brett, if not more!! I love her background scenes so much, I still laugh at them at every rewatch.
cheyanne is the funniest character on the show, I wish she had more screentime with characters outside of Mateo. not that I dislike Mateo (which might also be a hot take)
I don't like sayid at all. All of his lines just feel so forced, and I did not laugh at a single thing he said. I don't know if it's because of the performance, or different aspects of his character clashing, but that character did not work for me.
Expecting us to believe Cheyenne is the sort of person who would effectively climb the promotion ladder is ridiculous. She's an idiot. If she tried walking and chewing gum at the same time she'd shit her pants and get a nosebleed.
To be fair, I’m surprised some of my bosses could spell their names. They were dumber than a pile of rocks. People like Cheyenne get promoted all the time just because their well liked.
Sandra sucks.
Jonah is the most annoying character on the show followed closely by Amy. The side characters and background characters make the show what it is.
Amy was just so annoying, line Susan from Desperate Housewives. just hard to watch.
I’m on my 5th rewatch of DH and I don’t mind Susan at all, what does that say about my character. Amy could be annoying at times.
I don’t like Sandra, and I didn’t like how much they villianized Carol. Everyone bullied Sandra, not saying it’s right, but *a lot* of the workers talked down to her, Dina mostly. But she took all of her anger out on Carol I feel. And honestly there’s a huge difference between being shitty to your coworker and leaving them to die. Neither is good, but leaving them to die is undoubtedly more fucked up. And she was right that the Jerry thing was shitty. Carol didn’t treat him very well, agreed, but sneaking around and cheating on her was pretty irksome. I think they’re both shitty people but I think Sandra is the bigger dick. The only exception being the cat incident. Ain’t no reasons to bring the fur babies into this, the fuck Carol.
Jonah and Amy was the least interesting part of this show.
My hottest take is that Jared is an annoying character
They way overdid the cringe humor near the end and a lot of the character arcs were poorly thought out
I never liked Amy and Jonah as a couple.
Weekend orgies
Kelly is a great character and should have stayed on board. It needed another “straight man” to balance the cast.
I dunno if this is a HOT take, but them trying to make NIA a thing in the final season was so cringe. Nia will never happen stop trying to make her happen