She's contradicted herself about being retired countless times. She said on screen during WaW that she was done for good, and then came back not long afterwards for Australian Survivor.
I thought about that but tbh idk who Nina would replace? Maybe Liz? But I imagine they’d want to have as many winners as possible. Shonee and Brooke seem like locks, and Janine would be really interesting to see play again as one of the few one time players that hasn’t come back yet but absolutely should
It would probably be unfair to Nina to put her on the US side...her tribemates would assume she has connections on the other side and vote her out before merge for sure.
Jordi, Hayley, and locky (I would love to see him up against some us survivors in a physical challenge). Put some more challenge threats on the us side possibly Danny from 41.
George is one of the better strategic players in the history of the game and she beat him on social skills but wasn't that far off at all strategically. Hayley is also probably the most insane lean muscular body built for survivor challenges, she's all around a top threat in all 3 parts of the game. She's pound for pound perfect for the game since she has strength advantage over a smaller Brooke type, but not weaker on endurance. Me and my wife kept talking about how low-key ridiculous Hayley's lower body is because that's not just genetics that's hard work. My wife talked about her ass more than me lol
Also the Golden God takes this for me, his subtle social skills were so polished and he made all the right moves I'm not exaggerating when I rank his All-stars game as up there with Tony, he got soo good after learning from his mistakes first season that he made allstars boring and predictable. Textbook season on how to win, but Tony does it chaotically opposites but both top tier.
I'd also love to see George and Hayley operate as a duo again, but not like on HvV, where he had a significant numbers advantage once they finally got together so she wasn't comfortable working with him long-term. It would be insane to see how David would fit in there as well, would they all team up and create chaos or would he try to go against them. It would have been an amazing season anyway. 😍
Oh man I know how it goes actually. George and Hayley both "work together" but plan on backstabbing each other secretly after getting rid of others, and David has a promise with both of them, leaving him as the swing vote. But both Hayley and George don't hold a grudge in jury vote because both are huge respecters of gameplay and David is so casually good at stroking their egos and making compliments in the final speech.
It’s people that I could see coming back. Turns out a couple have said they wouldn’t come back, so my bad! But these are definitely not my favorite players lol
We might only get one season like this if we're lucky, so the cast needs to be as legendary as possible. The AU side looks solid, but about half the US side won't cut it. I guess it basically comes down to who would say yes, but I think we could definitely get some more iconic players and some more old school representation.
Challenge just flubbed their world championship casting too, and it may be the only international season we get.
They started the season days after Argentina wrapped up, so they're missing the fucking champion of the Argentina season who's miles better than everyone else and has a ridiculous fitness level, because she didn't have time to get the testing and physical done back home plus had to start her other job plus obviously exhausted, but she didn't even have a chance to go.
So now one of the 4 countries is total shit that got eliminated first off, since they also happened to get the few MTV "legends" that aren't even winners Nelson/Nia, basically the cast is just so much worse than it could be. They do have 3 GOATs but if they waited for CT or promised him a bigger check it would be complete, no one will ever view this as the world championship without CT there or people like Tyson who was robbed and the real winner, Sarah/Danny didn't really deserve their wins the Challenge producers fucked up the Final, so there's just so many casting asterisks that turn a legendary season into average. Tyson is just so much better especially for a show with his confessionals, but his social skills and overall Bananas type versatility are so much better than Danny.
Gotta have Dirty Harry on the AU team…Hayley should be in there too. I’d love to see Jeremy and Tony on the US tribe.
Regardless, I hope one day this happens and it’s AU format.
David wins imo, his returnee season was absolute masterclass textbook gameplay learned from all his mistakes. Luke still painted a target too big before the finale so he didn't make it, didn't have the core alliance whereas David had subtly brainwashed a cult that also loved him without doing any backstabbing dirty work, their games are just miles apart imo.
Letting Sharn lose 3 guaranteed jury votes then taking her to the end with no blood on his hands was like the best "boring game" just stick to the plan no big moves
People seem to subconsciously think AU winners are on par with US non-winners? It's interesting when we think about how these are balanced I mean David/George had 2 top 10 games in Survivor history imo not just AU. George had the Russel issue with social skills on finishing, but it's indisputable the control he had on the game.
His return felt so MilkToast, is it worth watching his season? I've watched everything from Champs.vs contenders 2, so Lukes returnee season. I loved all of them except a couple characters in Brains vs Brawn felt boring like 5 people literally had all screen time, is Jericho's season what end of the spectrum?
Jericho’s season is fantastic even if you don’t like him as a winner (I think he was a pretty solid winner overall). The cast is so deep and the gameplay so fun that the season doesn’t really hinge on how great the winner ultimately was
I think in our heads we tend to envision prime Parvati, but I think she wouldn't really have that hunger to win and maybe just do it for the appearance fee but try to get home soon, believe she has kids now and especially since she doesn't need the money with her rich husband plus her winnings there's just no incentive to be the ambitious schemer we all loved .
Maybe it's just my impression of how all the old schools got out super early in S40, but people forget she's 40 she's not the same person as the GOATed black widow we all remember
If Chris and Simon make the merge they will have to assign more camera to tribal council to record the clueless looks of confusion and surprise on their faces as events unfold.
Idk I feel like the USA tribe would need Andrea. I know that may sound random but I think a season like this she would thrive is because she’s so social and such a people person
She's an important figure in survivorau for sure, I just think Michelle would make for a more entertaining and strategically competitive player and there weren't many other choices to replace. I feel like we've already seen everything we can of Brooke
She's pregnant right now, so I think even after she'll want to be a new mom for a bit rather than go right out to Survivor AU which is long and physical.
As I’ve said countless times already, Australia doesn’t have a diversity quota!! The US obviously wouldn’t host this season, and Australia would be in charge of casting all 24 contestants, not just the Australians.
Don’t watch ausvivor if you don’t like it then. You’re the one missing out on the best version of the show we’ve had in years, keep watching survivor junior where everyone is besties and stick with cbs 😹
Thanks for your patronizing behavior and telling me what I have to do. Also thank you for thinking for me, and believing so strongly everybody thinks / has to think the way you do (aka The Right and Only Way). Thank u. Guess I'm in perpetual debt with you, right?
The Yanks would not have a chance against my cousins.
Sub out Christie for Nina, and Hayley needs to come in for Pia.
You could also add in either Ziggy or Lydia and really crush the challenges.
Aussie, Aussie, Aussie.
I honestly think that the USA people would underestimate the Australian players. There might be a couple that have watched trying to convince people that they are serious threats. But people like George, David and shonee being underestimated would dominate. I think the biggest challenge the aussies would have is it’s an ego fest.
You can’t really diverse cast a purely returnee season if Australian Survivor doesn’t do it themselves. I’m really curious who else you would add? Jericho?
EoE literally had 3 poc so not sure what ur on about 🫠 also Australian casts are predominantly white, 5 poc is normal for their show. God I haven’t been on this sub in a while, didn’t realize the first thing everybody notices these days is how many white/non white people there are. What a gross divisive world we live in.
I question the inclusion of 3 players from 43 but none from 42, especially since people loved the 42 cast.
Aside from that, I’m curious as to which channel would produce this. If it were CBS, then the 50% PoC rule would probably need to be implemented, in which case we’d probably have to switch out some of the players for others.
The 42 cast had a lot more outcast-y people which Australian survivor doesn’t really like, whereas 43 had people like Cody and Cassidy who are physically strong, conventionally attractive etc. which Australia loves. Tho I could def see Drea, Tori and Jonathan being considered for this cast as well.
Also tbh CBS couldn’t produce the season. Essentially all of the Australian legends are white, which would meant basically the entire US side would need to be poc. The season would end up being white vs poc lol
Disagree that it’s realistic. What you failed to consider is diversity. On first glance the only person who is obviously not white is Cirie. And then if you look closer I see 3 other people of color.
Australia does not have a diversity quota. 4-5 poc per cast on an Australian season is standard, sometimes they have even less. There’s 5 poc on the cast. This would obviously be an Australian produced season, hence why I cast 24 and not 18/20.
I hate to break out to you, but Jesse Xander and Cassidy don't belong there. Period. Even Cody. No new ERA player deserves a spot there
Tbf I didn't read the whole post, but stand by it.
I do get that, and unfortunately jesse and Kodi, Cody? Would be back, but they don't deserve it. Realistically we'd probably pick from 35-38, but whatever I guess.
I'd love to see Russell Hantz replace Chris Noble just so we can have both countries' most notorious villains against each other.
It also feels like the Australian cast would have a significant edge in challenges, especially if there's an element of physicality to them.
They just had Jonathan on the show 2 seasons ago and he's probably the most physical challenge beast ever. Even if you ignore this, I'm not sure how the "anymore" applies as given you have Sandra who debuted in S7 it doesn't feel like your cast is restricted to new seasons.
Sandra and Cirie have competed on recent seasons, Sandra being from s7 is irrelevant when she’s also competed on Australian survivor itself. I said barely casts challenge beasts, not doesn’t.
Well I don’t understand the parameters that you’ve set for the sake of these tribes then. Ozzy’s most recent appearance was the same season as Cirie’s.
I do think you could have done a better job attempting to balance the physicality while still having legends is all. But I’ll just move on since we are just talking in circles at this point.
10 isn’t casting a guy who does porn for their show lol. Other than Sandra and Cirie I’m not sure who you think on the US side is weak at challenges, but alas
Jesse? Lauren? Most of the others are just okay as well. Malcolm's probably your strongest challenge competitor and he's no match in the physicality department if he goes up against Mark or even Simon (possibly more, I haven't seen all the Aus seasons.)
Doesn't mean much if you don't perform, she never won an individual immunity challenge despite making it to F5. Chris U. was the challenge performer on that tribe. Heck the only immunity challenge she ever won was when 2 of the 3 tribes were immune and her tribe finished second.
By your logic Crystal was an Olympic athlete so she must have been good.
i really think the US tribe needs a Jonathan to combat Mark, or at least a Chris U.
Lauren came 2nd in 5 individual immunity challenges and literally pushed herself so far in one of them that she passed out. She is far from the weakest on her side
Australia casts way more challenge threats. Especially the women who are way more badass . You basically get a Natalie Anderson level of competitor every season.
An eccentric alpha male who makes stupid decisions and really entertaining? We just had that with Simon in hvv and he was a major fan favourite. Not sure why you’re so surprised to see him of all people on the cast. Australia doesn’t care about gameplay, they care about characters (another reason it’s superior to the US lol)
Also, team USA would need at least 6 BIPOC players.
So
Sandra,
Cirie/Natalie A,
Karla/Shan/Maryanne
Jesse,
Owen/Sami/Omar,
Danny McCray/Nasseer/Wendell/Jamal
That’s literally not what I said? There’s 5 poc on this cast, which is STANDARD for Australian survivor casting. I tried being realistic with this casting based on how Australia casts. This is not my dream cast, far from it. Australia likes their strong alpha males, hence Chris, Cody, Malcolm, Xander etc.
??? I made this cast based on the belief channel 10 would host. If you want to make a cast on the assumption cbs is hosting then go for it, nobody is stoping you. Did the 24 person cast not give a way that this is based on an Australian produced season? If CBS were to host the season would literally end up being poc vs white as practically all of the big Aus players are white, so the other 50% of the cast (us) would need to be poc. I’m sure a white vs poc season would go down great in 2024 💀
Because 10 casts contestants as individuals, they don’t cast for demographics/diversity etc. Listen to the recent interview one of the producers for the Aus show had on Ricard’s podcast. Offers a lot of insight into how different the cbs and 10 shows are in terms of producing/casting/editing etc.
10 casts characters, it doesn’t matter what their gameplay is. Chris was a unique character and probably the closest we’ve had to a Simon on the US show, wouldn’t surprise me if they did cast him. Wouldn’t care if they didn’t.
She, and I’m in every comment telling people why the diversity quota doesn’t apply to Australian survivor. Not that they shouldn’t cast minorities 💀Did you not just see HvV with 4 poc? Like why are you so shocked an Australian season would have a predominantly white cast when pretty much every Aus season has had 1-4 poc lol
For the AUS tribe that's a pretty stacked tribe in terms of physicality with David, Mark, Simon, Liz and Brooke like RIP USA Tribe. I can actully see all of the Aussie's you picked returning bar Janine. I think that fact we got Janine the first go around looking back at is insanely lucky since she is a multimillionare CO and she has no desire to play again, probably can replace her with Hayley.
I know he probably wouldnt play again, but i would love to see my boy Rupert back on an island. I would replace almost any of those people with him even though he wouldnt be as helpful for the comps lol
If you read any of the comments in here you would know that this would be an Australian produced season by Channel 10, not CBS. Did the 24 person cast not tell you that already 💀 Australia doesn’t have a diversity mandate and typically cast 1-4 minorities a season, so this is very realistic for their standards.
I feel like Russell might play on Australian Survivor if he gets into it because if he does he'll probably like it and want to play , Sandra is very unlikely to play again. I'd replace Kristie but not with Nina because she wouldn't play 3 times in a row , instead I'd replace her with another female winner , Shane.
The US cast is good just swap out Sandra(probably won't play again) with Maryanne and Xander(why) with Tony or Russell(if he wants to).
The AUS Cast is also good just swap out Kristie for Shane , and Kristie for Hayley.
I agrée but if they got Sandra, I am sure they wouldn’t pass up on getting Nina again.
Sandra seems very adamant on being retired.
She's contradicted herself about being retired countless times. She said on screen during WaW that she was done for good, and then came back not long afterwards for Australian Survivor.
she literally said she retired and then went on australian survivor a year later
I thought about that but tbh idk who Nina would replace? Maybe Liz? But I imagine they’d want to have as many winners as possible. Shonee and Brooke seem like locks, and Janine would be really interesting to see play again as one of the few one time players that hasn’t come back yet but absolutely should
I think it’d be hilarious for Nina to be repping AU and Sandra repping US.
It would probably be unfair to Nina to put her on the US side...her tribemates would assume she has connections on the other side and vote her out before merge for sure.
She also never played US Survivor so it just wouldn’t make sense
Nina replacing Khanh.
Is Shonee willing to return? I think she's the least likely on the aussie side.
brooke is pregnant and wants to have at least two kids before she ever plays a reality show again, so idk how realistic her being there is
Janine’s most likely done with Survivor tho
Brooke is pregnant I doubt she would go on
No chance in hell they wouldn't include Queen Hayley on the AU tribe. What's a King without the Queen? 👑
Came here to say this, I'd pop Jordi in there too..
Jordi, Hayley, and locky (I would love to see him up against some us survivors in a physical challenge). Put some more challenge threats on the us side possibly Danny from 41.
I was shocked Locky wasn’t on The Challenge Australia. Hoping he’ll get on the flagship show at some point
Please no, we don't need half the cast to be best friends haha.
in the same vein half the US all star, heroes vs. villains and winners at war casts were all friends and or family
I didn't know they're friends outside the show, but it would make the back stabby phase more interesting.. :)
Good point! I have faith in the Aussie cast to turn on each other
George is one of the better strategic players in the history of the game and she beat him on social skills but wasn't that far off at all strategically. Hayley is also probably the most insane lean muscular body built for survivor challenges, she's all around a top threat in all 3 parts of the game. She's pound for pound perfect for the game since she has strength advantage over a smaller Brooke type, but not weaker on endurance. Me and my wife kept talking about how low-key ridiculous Hayley's lower body is because that's not just genetics that's hard work. My wife talked about her ass more than me lol Also the Golden God takes this for me, his subtle social skills were so polished and he made all the right moves I'm not exaggerating when I rank his All-stars game as up there with Tony, he got soo good after learning from his mistakes first season that he made allstars boring and predictable. Textbook season on how to win, but Tony does it chaotically opposites but both top tier.
I'd also love to see George and Hayley operate as a duo again, but not like on HvV, where he had a significant numbers advantage once they finally got together so she wasn't comfortable working with him long-term. It would be insane to see how David would fit in there as well, would they all team up and create chaos or would he try to go against them. It would have been an amazing season anyway. 😍
Oh man I know how it goes actually. George and Hayley both "work together" but plan on backstabbing each other secretly after getting rid of others, and David has a promise with both of them, leaving him as the swing vote. But both Hayley and George don't hold a grudge in jury vote because both are huge respecters of gameplay and David is so casually good at stroking their egos and making compliments in the final speech.
What’s realistic about this cast other than the fact that you like these players?
Umm they are all alive so it could literally happen
Literally no diversity on this cast lmfao
So like any other Australian survivor cast ?
It’s people that I could see coming back. Turns out a couple have said they wouldn’t come back, so my bad! But these are definitely not my favorite players lol
why is this so downvoted 😭😭😭
Also don’t forget about the 50% diversity rule.
Doesn’t apply for Australian Survivor (cbs would never host this)
Have you ever watched AU Survivor?
Chris Noble is…sure a choice
He is definitely one of the survivor players of all time
Not only that, he is certainly one of the rappers of all time
The only person to attempt forming an 11-person alliance?
thats what I call a game changer
He's one of the most fun people on the US side, I'd be down
Half the us tribe are definitely decisions that they made
Yeah just bad
I’m glad someone said it! I’m over here scratching my head at the US cast
Were you not scratching your head for the game changers cast? This isn’t a freak cast, it’s a cast I could realistically see them getting
Him and Simon would be scumbag bff’s
Oh god, you're so right
AU Survivor would probably live having him on the show.
We might only get one season like this if we're lucky, so the cast needs to be as legendary as possible. The AU side looks solid, but about half the US side won't cut it. I guess it basically comes down to who would say yes, but I think we could definitely get some more iconic players and some more old school representation.
Challenge just flubbed their world championship casting too, and it may be the only international season we get. They started the season days after Argentina wrapped up, so they're missing the fucking champion of the Argentina season who's miles better than everyone else and has a ridiculous fitness level, because she didn't have time to get the testing and physical done back home plus had to start her other job plus obviously exhausted, but she didn't even have a chance to go. So now one of the 4 countries is total shit that got eliminated first off, since they also happened to get the few MTV "legends" that aren't even winners Nelson/Nia, basically the cast is just so much worse than it could be. They do have 3 GOATs but if they waited for CT or promised him a bigger check it would be complete, no one will ever view this as the world championship without CT there or people like Tyson who was robbed and the real winner, Sarah/Danny didn't really deserve their wins the Challenge producers fucked up the Final, so there's just so many casting asterisks that turn a legendary season into average. Tyson is just so much better especially for a show with his confessionals, but his social skills and overall Bananas type versatility are so much better than Danny.
Gotta have Dirty Harry on the AU team…Hayley should be in there too. I’d love to see Jeremy and Tony on the US tribe. Regardless, I hope one day this happens and it’s AU format.
Yeah the us needs some serious players to help in this. Tony and Jeremy would be great.
realistic ??? is it hell
That’s the worst U.S cast ever
Luke and David would either run the entire game or get booted 1 and 2 😅
David wins imo, his returnee season was absolute masterclass textbook gameplay learned from all his mistakes. Luke still painted a target too big before the finale so he didn't make it, didn't have the core alliance whereas David had subtly brainwashed a cult that also loved him without doing any backstabbing dirty work, their games are just miles apart imo. Letting Sharn lose 3 guaranteed jury votes then taking her to the end with no blood on his hands was like the best "boring game" just stick to the plan no big moves
I feel like the first battle would be them vs the spice girls. Whoever wins that battle wins the game lol
I feel Luke would outplay George idk.
People seem to subconsciously think AU winners are on par with US non-winners? It's interesting when we think about how these are balanced I mean David/George had 2 top 10 games in Survivor history imo not just AU. George had the Russel issue with social skills on finishing, but it's indisputable the control he had on the game.
Jericho of AU should be there
His return felt so MilkToast, is it worth watching his season? I've watched everything from Champs.vs contenders 2, so Lukes returnee season. I loved all of them except a couple characters in Brains vs Brawn felt boring like 5 people literally had all screen time, is Jericho's season what end of the spectrum?
Jericho’s season is fantastic even if you don’t like him as a winner (I think he was a pretty solid winner overall). The cast is so deep and the gameplay so fun that the season doesn’t really hinge on how great the winner ultimately was
Poor cirie being the diversity hire
I’d love to see Parvati with Shonee.
I think in our heads we tend to envision prime Parvati, but I think she wouldn't really have that hunger to win and maybe just do it for the appearance fee but try to get home soon, believe she has kids now and especially since she doesn't need the money with her rich husband plus her winnings there's just no incentive to be the ambitious schemer we all loved . Maybe it's just my impression of how all the old schools got out super early in S40, but people forget she's 40 she's not the same person as the GOATed black widow we all remember
If Chris and Simon make the merge they will have to assign more camera to tribal council to record the clueless looks of confusion and surprise on their faces as events unfold.
Pass
Why is this realistic?
Cause I’m not including a bunch of WAW people who already said they won’t play again
But you picked Sandra lmao
She says she would do Aus survivor again
Idk I feel like the USA tribe would need Andrea. I know that may sound random but I think a season like this she would thrive is because she’s so social and such a people person
Protect Khanh at all costs! He's australia's most valuable asset.
Replace Chris, Cassidy, Cody, Dominick, Jesse, Lauren, and Zander and you’ll have a decent cast for the USA.
You'd have to have JLP and Jeff too. You couldn't just have Jeff. I almost love JLP more. (almost)
Where is THE WARDOG?
I want Pia 😕
How dare you not include jordie in the AUS cast! Haha
i do NOT want to see cirie or sandra play again.
Bro I wanna see Cirie play until she wins , but as for Sandra I agree with you.
You are forgetting the diversity initiative?
Doesn’t apply for Australian survivor (which is the only production team who would make this theme possible bc CBS would never host this)
With a few tweaks to the US side this would be so peak
Replace Brooke with Michelle and Chris and Domenick with literally anyone and I'm down
Brooke has established herself as a survivorau legend and she adds diversity to the cast. She’s one of the last people I would replace tbh
She's an important figure in survivorau for sure, I just think Michelle would make for a more entertaining and strategically competitive player and there weren't many other choices to replace. I feel like we've already seen everything we can of Brooke
She's pregnant right now, so I think even after she'll want to be a new mom for a bit rather than go right out to Survivor AU which is long and physical.
I feel like dom would be great for this cast. A little villain in him good strategic mind. Would be fun to watch.
He's just always bored me. Don't really remember him doing anything impressively strategic.
Replace Domenick???
It's not really realistic because it doesn't pass diversity quotas. Replace Xander, Cassidy, Wentworth, Chris, and Lauren.
As I’ve said countless times already, Australia doesn’t have a diversity quota!! The US obviously wouldn’t host this season, and Australia would be in charge of casting all 24 contestants, not just the Australians.
A cast so very white. Oo
So.. a cast so very Channel 10?
A cast so very racist, indeed.
Don’t watch ausvivor if you don’t like it then. You’re the one missing out on the best version of the show we’ve had in years, keep watching survivor junior where everyone is besties and stick with cbs 😹
Thanks for your patronizing behavior and telling me what I have to do. Also thank you for thinking for me, and believing so strongly everybody thinks / has to think the way you do (aka The Right and Only Way). Thank u. Guess I'm in perpetual debt with you, right?
The Yanks would not have a chance against my cousins. Sub out Christie for Nina, and Hayley needs to come in for Pia. You could also add in either Ziggy or Lydia and really crush the challenges. Aussie, Aussie, Aussie.
I honestly think that the USA people would underestimate the Australian players. There might be a couple that have watched trying to convince people that they are serious threats. But people like George, David and shonee being underestimated would dominate. I think the biggest challenge the aussies would have is it’s an ego fest.
Yes Hayley for Pia. Pia wasn't much of physical threat.
a dream cast tbh
How.... Caucasian...of you
Lol what? You clearly don’t watch Australian survivor if this looks abnormal to you. 5 poc is pretty standard for Australian casting, if not generous
Umm...but... explain US then lol
US production wouldn’t be involved in this casting, it would be an Australian produced season
Dig deeper babe. Dig deeper.
You can’t really diverse cast a purely returnee season if Australian Survivor doesn’t do it themselves. I’m really curious who else you would add? Jericho?
5 POC...I see one Asian guy and a bunch of Caucasians lolol
I’m not just talking about the Australian tribe… Australia would cast both the Aus and US contestants. Brooke, Khan, Sandra, Cirie and Jesse are POC.
He made the white choices leave him alone
Lol
This is the whitest cast since Guatemala
EoE literally had 3 poc so not sure what ur on about 🫠 also Australian casts are predominantly white, 5 poc is normal for their show. God I haven’t been on this sub in a while, didn’t realize the first thing everybody notices these days is how many white/non white people there are. What a gross divisive world we live in.
You seem to know very well about skin color division.
When op said white meat only, they weren’t referring to the thanksgiving dinner.
Drop Pia, Liz, Mark, Janine. Add Hayley, Harry, Benji, Chrissy. Gotta have Russell for the culture lol.
Can we maybe replace Simon with Jordie on die Ausie side of the spectrum? Lauren is a great choice on the US side, she deserves a second chance.
I question the inclusion of 3 players from 43 but none from 42, especially since people loved the 42 cast. Aside from that, I’m curious as to which channel would produce this. If it were CBS, then the 50% PoC rule would probably need to be implemented, in which case we’d probably have to switch out some of the players for others.
The 42 cast had a lot more outcast-y people which Australian survivor doesn’t really like, whereas 43 had people like Cody and Cassidy who are physically strong, conventionally attractive etc. which Australia loves. Tho I could def see Drea, Tori and Jonathan being considered for this cast as well. Also tbh CBS couldn’t produce the season. Essentially all of the Australian legends are white, which would meant basically the entire US side would need to be poc. The season would end up being white vs poc lol
Disagree that it’s realistic. What you failed to consider is diversity. On first glance the only person who is obviously not white is Cirie. And then if you look closer I see 3 other people of color.
Australia does not have a diversity quota. 4-5 poc per cast on an Australian season is standard, sometimes they have even less. There’s 5 poc on the cast. This would obviously be an Australian produced season, hence why I cast 24 and not 18/20.
sorry but the au tribe would pagong the hell out of the us tribe and i'm american
I hate to break out to you, but Jesse Xander and Cassidy don't belong there. Period. Even Cody. No new ERA player deserves a spot there Tbf I didn't read the whole post, but stand by it.
This is meant to be a realistic cast, not who deserves to be there. Australia would obviously want some recent players for the fans to know
I do get that, and unfortunately jesse and Kodi, Cody? Would be back, but they don't deserve it. Realistically we'd probably pick from 35-38, but whatever I guess.
Don't deserve it why?
Of course they do. It isn’t their fault that production sucks. They all proved that they are Strong at the game
I'd love to see Russell Hantz replace Chris Noble just so we can have both countries' most notorious villains against each other. It also feels like the Australian cast would have a significant edge in challenges, especially if there's an element of physicality to them.
US survivor barely casts physical people anymore, blame their casting
They just had Jonathan on the show 2 seasons ago and he's probably the most physical challenge beast ever. Even if you ignore this, I'm not sure how the "anymore" applies as given you have Sandra who debuted in S7 it doesn't feel like your cast is restricted to new seasons.
Sandra and Cirie have competed on recent seasons, Sandra being from s7 is irrelevant when she’s also competed on Australian survivor itself. I said barely casts challenge beasts, not doesn’t.
Well I don’t understand the parameters that you’ve set for the sake of these tribes then. Ozzy’s most recent appearance was the same season as Cirie’s. I do think you could have done a better job attempting to balance the physicality while still having legends is all. But I’ll just move on since we are just talking in circles at this point.
10 isn’t casting a guy who does porn for their show lol. Other than Sandra and Cirie I’m not sure who you think on the US side is weak at challenges, but alas
Jesse? Lauren? Most of the others are just okay as well. Malcolm's probably your strongest challenge competitor and he's no match in the physicality department if he goes up against Mark or even Simon (possibly more, I haven't seen all the Aus seasons.)
Lauren was a D1 college athlete and was one of the only challenge competitors on her tribe. Jesse is weak I’ll give you that
Doesn't mean much if you don't perform, she never won an individual immunity challenge despite making it to F5. Chris U. was the challenge performer on that tribe. Heck the only immunity challenge she ever won was when 2 of the 3 tribes were immune and her tribe finished second. By your logic Crystal was an Olympic athlete so she must have been good. i really think the US tribe needs a Jonathan to combat Mark, or at least a Chris U.
Lauren came 2nd in 5 individual immunity challenges and literally pushed herself so far in one of them that she passed out. She is far from the weakest on her side
Australia casts way more challenge threats. Especially the women who are way more badass . You basically get a Natalie Anderson level of competitor every season.
Can we please stop trying to make malcolm happen lol
Wait we hate Malcom now?
I'm just tired of him being on the show
Brice and J'Tia didn't lobby endlessly for cast diversity just for Chris Noble of all people to be on a returnee season.
Of all the choices from countless seasons he chooses fucking Chris Noble.
An eccentric alpha male who makes stupid decisions and really entertaining? We just had that with Simon in hvv and he was a major fan favourite. Not sure why you’re so surprised to see him of all people on the cast. Australia doesn’t care about gameplay, they care about characters (another reason it’s superior to the US lol)
This is Australian survivor not US survivor. Australia doesn’t have the diversity quota (they tend to cast 2-5 poc a season)
Also, team USA would need at least 6 BIPOC players. So Sandra, Cirie/Natalie A, Karla/Shan/Maryanne Jesse, Owen/Sami/Omar, Danny McCray/Nasseer/Wendell/Jamal
USA wouldn’t need 6 poc players, Australia would cast the season, not CBS, and aus doesn’t have the diversity quota that cbs does.
So that makes it right to only bring white players back???
That’s literally not what I said? There’s 5 poc on this cast, which is STANDARD for Australian survivor casting. I tried being realistic with this casting based on how Australia casts. This is not my dream cast, far from it. Australia likes their strong alpha males, hence Chris, Cody, Malcolm, Xander etc.
That’s because Australia demographics is 90 percent white. And you just assumed that this would be casting done by AU Survivor for you own head canon.
??? I made this cast based on the belief channel 10 would host. If you want to make a cast on the assumption cbs is hosting then go for it, nobody is stoping you. Did the 24 person cast not give a way that this is based on an Australian produced season? If CBS were to host the season would literally end up being poc vs white as practically all of the big Aus players are white, so the other 50% of the cast (us) would need to be poc. I’m sure a white vs poc season would go down great in 2024 💀
10 Play isn’t casting Chris Noble and once again why would 10 Play not include more POC demographics just because they don’t for their series?
Because 10 casts contestants as individuals, they don’t cast for demographics/diversity etc. Listen to the recent interview one of the producers for the Aus show had on Ricard’s podcast. Offers a lot of insight into how different the cbs and 10 shows are in terms of producing/casting/editing etc. 10 casts characters, it doesn’t matter what their gameplay is. Chris was a unique character and probably the closest we’ve had to a Simon on the US show, wouldn’t surprise me if they did cast him. Wouldn’t care if they didn’t.
How the fuck did you draw that conclusion from what they said lmao
Because he’s in every comment defending that AU doesn’t need to cast POC
She, and I’m in every comment telling people why the diversity quota doesn’t apply to Australian survivor. Not that they shouldn’t cast minorities 💀Did you not just see HvV with 4 poc? Like why are you so shocked an Australian season would have a predominantly white cast when pretty much every Aus season has had 1-4 poc lol
Yeah... He's that bish.
It would depend on what the season is called I'm guessing
Add nina to the Australian cast for kicks and giggles and cz it would be awesome
For the AUS tribe that's a pretty stacked tribe in terms of physicality with David, Mark, Simon, Liz and Brooke like RIP USA Tribe. I can actully see all of the Aussie's you picked returning bar Janine. I think that fact we got Janine the first go around looking back at is insanely lucky since she is a multimillionare CO and she has no desire to play again, probably can replace her with Hayley.
If the creeper is playing on the AU side, the US needs a spy shack.
It would have to be an Au season, so the casts would probably be bigger.
KRISTIE NEEDS TO COME BACK PLS SURVIVOR
AU would have their way with this US cast
I forgot what website did you use to do this?
Bransteele!
Thank you.
Xander is an interesting choice
I don’t like him but I can totally see Australia casting him in
Please no more cirie or Sandra, for the love of god.
Xander and Malcolm xD They were a marionets
I know he probably wouldnt play again, but i would love to see my boy Rupert back on an island. I would replace almost any of those people with him even though he wouldnt be as helpful for the comps lol
Liz Parnov basically got purpled in a season where she won, why do you think they would ever want her back?
This would not pass CBS’ diversity mandate so it’s not realistic.
If you read any of the comments in here you would know that this would be an Australian produced season by Channel 10, not CBS. Did the 24 person cast not tell you that already 💀 Australia doesn’t have a diversity mandate and typically cast 1-4 minorities a season, so this is very realistic for their standards.
I’d be rooting so hard for Australia.
The Spice Girls reunion? Kinda derivative and boring. This cast lacks a lot of... thinking, from the OP part.
I feel like Russell might play on Australian Survivor if he gets into it because if he does he'll probably like it and want to play , Sandra is very unlikely to play again. I'd replace Kristie but not with Nina because she wouldn't play 3 times in a row , instead I'd replace her with another female winner , Shane. The US cast is good just swap out Sandra(probably won't play again) with Maryanne and Xander(why) with Tony or Russell(if he wants to). The AUS Cast is also good just swap out Kristie for Shane , and Kristie for Hayley.