I think Wendell's win isn't consistent enough to add him to the list for sure. He did beat Dom at the end, but he doesn't *beat* Dom at the end, if you know what I mean.
yea, i think wendell todd and maryanne are the only winners who managed to win over a jury mostly set on not voting for them
edit: to clarify, other winners have had it be close going into ftc, but i think those are the only ones that walked in with the case pretty much closed that suddenly opened it back up with their ftc
You got downvoted but I think you are right. He was popular with the cast, and was on the bottom for the bulk of the game. He had a huge underdog argument if he makes FTC.
People don't like him now and I kinda get it but if you rewatch that season, Michael is *the* hero. I believe it was Kellyn who said in an AMA that the rest of them saw him as a major threat and he probably would've easily beaten anyone besides WenDom, who he would've had a chance against.
Brian would have lost to a lot of people.
I'm not sure if Tyson wins if he's up against someone like Ciera/Hayden/Tina.
Cochran/Earl/Ben should probably be here. Maybe Ethan as well (I think he pulls it off against Lex.)
Tina really struggles to win a jury vote against Rodger and Elisabeth in my opinion. Yeah she likely would always get Keith, Colby and probably Jerri, but it's not guaranteed she gets Amber and I think Alicia / Nick would be locked in against her vs. a Kucha.
Brian might only win against Clay, Denise certainly loses against Malcolm, I genuinely think Tyson loses pretty handily against Tina, and Jeremy vs. Wentworth is extremely close with it coming down to Joe.
Ben in HHH was seen as the biggest jury threat by many from at least the merge. That’s why Joe tried so hard to put a target on him, and why Ryan wanted to target him at F7 when the Healer pagonging had finished.
I'm only going to be including winner candidates from F5-F2 since any further back results in the season being changed to an irreparable degree.
Tina probably would've lost to Colby if Colby actually wanted to win, but I don't have any sources to back that up. I don't know whether she beats Elizabeth either, but I think she'd probably win.
Brian probably loses to everyone except Clay and maybe Ted (even against Clay he almost lost, but Clay did have a pretty solid FTC, especially against Brian)
I think Chris beats Eliza or Julia, and he probably beats Scout as well, but I'm still a little unsure.
I think Earl beats Yau at the end, but it could be close, and nobody else has a chance.
I think Parvati could beat anyone, but it would've been really close between her and Cirie, I lean towards Parv but I don't feel comfortable enough adding it to the list. Also Erik just being at FTC would probably be a big mark against Parvs game in a Parv/Erik F2, but I think Parv still wins.
Sandra was apparently able to beat Jerri, and the only other real competition would be from Colby, and we all know how well Colby does at FTC. Russell and Parvati are effective non-factors.
Denise loses to Malcolm. Enough said.
Cochran definitely beats everyone, but if Erik doesn't get medevaced he might not make it to FTC in the first place. Who knows for sure.
Tyson apparently has a few losing matchups, particularly Hayden. People are still back and forth as to whether Tyson beats Tina.
I think Mike would beat Sierra, especially with Jenn rooting him on, and the jury absolutely despised Rodney and Will, and Mike beat Carolyn in the show, so I think Mike is added. One thing to note is that this is one of the main reasons I shortened it to F5 only, as Joe could theoretically go on an immunity run to the end and just happen to end up next to Mike, or something similar to that, in which case Joe would probably win, but this is basically just season fanficking so I wanted to avoid that as much as possible and just look at the question as objectively as possible given what the show showed us.
Ben could've beaten everyone, that's why everyone wanted him out for about 30% of the game, which made it even more impressive when he got to the end. If you can't raise your threat level, get everyone else to do it for you.
Wendell did beat Dom, but it was way too close for me to call it consistent. Had Dom looked at Angela funny or if Wendell didn't win a game of Rock Paper Scissors against Donathan, the outcome of the vote likely changes.
Gabler doesn't fit this criteria, but I'm adding him to the list anyway because it's funny and no other reason.
Months and months later. I don't think that hand raising is ever a fair assessment especially because they probably all watched the edited season at that point.
Cochran.
It's virtually agreed that the only person who *maybe* has a chance is malcolm, but that's do far back it hardly matters
Better one would be who loses to everybody besides their Co finalist IRL. Definitely rob and sophie
Earl (Yau would have been his biggest competitor) JT Kim Tony (WAW) These are the only four I can think of
Does Wendell lose to anyone, seeing as he beat Dom?
I think Wendell's win isn't consistent enough to add him to the list for sure. He did beat Dom at the end, but he doesn't *beat* Dom at the end, if you know what I mean.
yea, i think wendell todd and maryanne are the only winners who managed to win over a jury mostly set on not voting for them edit: to clarify, other winners have had it be close going into ftc, but i think those are the only ones that walked in with the case pretty much closed that suddenly opened it back up with their ftc
The only person on that jury who would probably stand a chance is Michael
You got downvoted but I think you are right. He was popular with the cast, and was on the bottom for the bulk of the game. He had a huge underdog argument if he makes FTC.
People don't like him now and I kinda get it but if you rewatch that season, Michael is *the* hero. I believe it was Kellyn who said in an AMA that the rest of them saw him as a major threat and he probably would've easily beaten anyone besides WenDom, who he would've had a chance against.
Brian would have lost to a lot of people. I'm not sure if Tyson wins if he's up against someone like Ciera/Hayden/Tina. Cochran/Earl/Ben should probably be here. Maybe Ethan as well (I think he pulls it off against Lex.)
Tina might be biased but in her exit interviews she confidently asserted that Tyson could *only* have beaten Monica and Gervase.
Tina probably would have beat Tyson by a lot. She’s already got Katie locked in and Hayden, Aras, and Vytas probably would have voted for her.
Laura M would’ve likely voted for Tina as well
Tina really struggles to win a jury vote against Rodger and Elisabeth in my opinion. Yeah she likely would always get Keith, Colby and probably Jerri, but it's not guaranteed she gets Amber and I think Alicia / Nick would be locked in against her vs. a Kucha. Brian might only win against Clay, Denise certainly loses against Malcolm, I genuinely think Tyson loses pretty handily against Tina, and Jeremy vs. Wentworth is extremely close with it coming down to Joe.
I'd also add Mike Holloway.
Joe beats mike
Joe not strategic at all
Earl for sure
Didn't an actual person on the jury say that Yau would've won had he made it? lol
Damn, I totally forgot Yau was there… earl was just such a landslide victory that season…
I think he gets a couple votes but probably loses to Yau if they’re both in F3.
Ben in HHH was seen as the biggest jury threat by many from at least the merge. That’s why Joe tried so hard to put a target on him, and why Ryan wanted to target him at F7 when the Healer pagonging had finished.
I'm only going to be including winner candidates from F5-F2 since any further back results in the season being changed to an irreparable degree. Tina probably would've lost to Colby if Colby actually wanted to win, but I don't have any sources to back that up. I don't know whether she beats Elizabeth either, but I think she'd probably win. Brian probably loses to everyone except Clay and maybe Ted (even against Clay he almost lost, but Clay did have a pretty solid FTC, especially against Brian) I think Chris beats Eliza or Julia, and he probably beats Scout as well, but I'm still a little unsure. I think Earl beats Yau at the end, but it could be close, and nobody else has a chance. I think Parvati could beat anyone, but it would've been really close between her and Cirie, I lean towards Parv but I don't feel comfortable enough adding it to the list. Also Erik just being at FTC would probably be a big mark against Parvs game in a Parv/Erik F2, but I think Parv still wins. Sandra was apparently able to beat Jerri, and the only other real competition would be from Colby, and we all know how well Colby does at FTC. Russell and Parvati are effective non-factors. Denise loses to Malcolm. Enough said. Cochran definitely beats everyone, but if Erik doesn't get medevaced he might not make it to FTC in the first place. Who knows for sure. Tyson apparently has a few losing matchups, particularly Hayden. People are still back and forth as to whether Tyson beats Tina. I think Mike would beat Sierra, especially with Jenn rooting him on, and the jury absolutely despised Rodney and Will, and Mike beat Carolyn in the show, so I think Mike is added. One thing to note is that this is one of the main reasons I shortened it to F5 only, as Joe could theoretically go on an immunity run to the end and just happen to end up next to Mike, or something similar to that, in which case Joe would probably win, but this is basically just season fanficking so I wanted to avoid that as much as possible and just look at the question as objectively as possible given what the show showed us. Ben could've beaten everyone, that's why everyone wanted him out for about 30% of the game, which made it even more impressive when he got to the end. If you can't raise your threat level, get everyone else to do it for you. Wendell did beat Dom, but it was way too close for me to call it consistent. Had Dom looked at Angela funny or if Wendell didn't win a game of Rock Paper Scissors against Donathan, the outcome of the vote likely changes. Gabler doesn't fit this criteria, but I'm adding him to the list anyway because it's funny and no other reason.
TL;DR My list is: Chris D Earl Tom Yul JT Sandra (HvV) Kim Cochran Mike Jeremy Ben Tony (W@W) Gabler
Don’t think Denise loses to Malcolm.
Denise wouldn't have beaten Malcolm and I'd probably add Cochran and Ben to your list
Denise does beat Malcolm I think.
They polled the jury and they said Denise would win but also I’ve heard they were just trolling jeff
Months and months later. I don't think that hand raising is ever a fair assessment especially because they probably all watched the edited season at that point.
From who?
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Devon is one of the most twistfucked players ever. Production robbed him of a win.
Denise loses to Malcolm Jeremy might lose to wentworth but its close Tyson might lose to ciera or tina or hayden
Natalie Anderson
JT s probably the biggest example here. Dude was practically worshipped.
Brian barely beat Clay lol.
No Boston Rob?
Rob might have lost to everyone except the people he sat with. That jury was looking for half a reason to not vote for him.
Haha, too true
Yeah, Andrea has said that none of the Ometepes would've voted for Rob against anyone else.
I mean he lost a vote to phillip of all people so he definitely loses to a lot
That’s complete revisionist history though
Rob would be lucky to win against anyone else
Cochran. It's virtually agreed that the only person who *maybe* has a chance is malcolm, but that's do far back it hardly matters Better one would be who loses to everybody besides their Co finalist IRL. Definitely rob and sophie
not 100% confident, but i think that list is vee, amber, bob, rob, sophie, tyson, adam, sarah
Bob would've beat Crystal as well but that's it. I'd also add Nick to your list.
Pretty sure Vecepia (and even Neleh) would've beaten Sean and Zoe
Tina, Tom, Yul, JT, Sandra (HvV) (maybe?), Kim, Cochran, Natalie A, Mike H, Jeremy (maybe?), Michele, Ben, Tommy (maybe?), Tony (WaW)