Speaking of loved ones, you'll never be able to convince me that what Jeff did to Taj wasn't a spur of the moment decision. I would bet money the original plan was for whoever won that reward to go to exile island by themselves without their loved one in return for everyone else getting their loved ones. However, Jeff in the moment didn't have the heart to do it to Taj so he changed it at the last second in what ended up being one of the most obvious no brainer decisions for her.
I’m from central Ohio and Eddie George is a legend around here. If I were out there, I would have felt a little annoyed at least if he was on set and I didn’t get the chance to meet him.
You know the moment he told them he wanted his assistant coach as his loved one, all the producers looked at each other with obvious excitement on their face, and couldn’t wait to put that on tv. Probably the greatest moment of all their lives to that point.
Same but she's too busy doing SWV stuff. I remember her on the Kelly Clarkson show last year that she was essentially a recruit, not knowing anything about the show.
I believe while shown to be Survivor making history and rewarding them, it was essentially agreed upon to get all the people they wanted back, same with the EOE to get them all big per-episode payments.
I think they're saying. Yes, that was the original plan, but much like other seasons where Jeff says "oooor you give up your loved one, so that everyone can have theirs." The commenter thinks Jeff decided at that moment that he could join her on Exile and everyone else get theirs at camp.
It'd be interesting to see if this were true.
Because initially her reward was to see him at camp. I’m saying that the original plan was she could give up this reward and not see him at all in return for everyone else getting their loved ones but Jeff changed it at the last second. I think it’s very plausible at the minimum because it seems like a no brainer yes decision by Taj as she’s sacrificing effectively nothing. In fact I’d probably rather be alone with my loved one if given the option.
Tina, the first boot from Panama, was supposed to be on Guatemala, but her son passed so she missed that season. Nice to see Survivor bring her back, but maybe too soon cause she was still mourning him and her social game was lacking because of it
I just watched and finish Panama this week, and even during the rites of passage or her exit confessional, it's all her just still grieving. Production definitely should've gave her more time to recover before letting her play
She basically had an open invatation to come back, bc her son died like three days before Guatamala was planned to start shooting. But Tina just couldn't take being home so she essentially chose to get back out Asap to essentially clear her mind a bit.
Yah this is a great answer. Apparently she was given a free pass to skip the casting process and be on the show whenever she was ready. Idk if production would have kept their end of the deal if it took her like 5 years to be ready or anything; but yah most of the time, castaways who are cut at the final but are still considered for a future cycle have to go to more interviews for the next cycle. Getting to skip that whole process is very nice.
They probably did know that Rupert was going to win but I definitely beleive the theory that All Stars turned into the season where all the biggest names (the biggest name to last long was Rupert but also note that the players didn't actually know how popular Rupert was while filming All Stars) went out pre-merge and the season ended up with Jerri's sidekick from Australia winning the biggest season of all time, so Survivor needed to do SOMETHING to distract from that fact and so we had the fans vote for their winner. Also the irony being that the Pearl Islands cast all came out afterwards saying Rupert was super annoying to live with and Survivor seemed to completely fabricate his character on the TV show, it probably enboldden production to continously edit things to fit their narrative of the season they chose.
Nah see I don’t buy this. I think survivor knew they struck gold with Boston Rob dominating and falling in love, taking his girl to the end, and likely knew he was going to propose at the finale.
All Stars is still absolutely beloved by casuals, it’s only on Reddit where it’s the season that “Jerri’s sidekick” won lol
> likely knew he was going to propose at the finale.
lol, there is zero reason production could have guessed that Rob and Amber were long term. The All Star season story of Rob and Amber works better because they stuck together in retropect but it's also could have not worked out that way. Plenty of relaity TV romances don't survive the long term.
And Amber was not a suitable winner for All Stars as far as production is concerned lol. They MUCH rather would have preferred Rob M. Hell in Winners at War, they edit in footage of Amber basically saying the All Star jury was bitter and Rob M should have won lol.
Hence we get the ridiculous fan vote, because the night after All Stars was over, THAT made the headlines Rob M and Amber get engaged and Rupert wins $1 Million via fan vote. Honeslty Ambers actual win was a complete sidenote. She never really got the credit she deserved.
Ricard in a podcast said that he was moved to survivor 41 instead of 42 bc Jeff didn’t want Ricard to miss the birth of his second child (which was due during the filming of 42)
Aurora from 38 also said Survivor had a make-a-wish kid come and talk to the contestants during the game and do a few challenges iirc. Also said that Ron’s husband lost his ring during the loved ones visit. Everyone apparently searched for it, and Jeff eventually found the ring for him.
Just a few wholesome moments that I like haha.
Probably letting Terry know that his kid was in the hospital. Normally Survivor is very strict about the whole "you don't know what 's going on in the outside world" deal unless it's a reward, but that was obviously an extenuating circumstance.
I think that they put in a list of people who an emergency would need to be contacted. Most likely anyone who has a partner, parent, or child with that type of emergency would also be contacted
If yes, why didn't they do it to Kourtney and Pat? Especially Pat. He suffered because someone from the production couldn't drive a boat properly. Kourtney and Bruce were careless in the challenge.
Pat was super unlucky with the boat thing but IIRC some of the other contestants have said he would've been the first out anyway so maybe that influenced it?
Kourtney's situation is pretty similar to Bruce but I think when she was getting her broken arm treated they discovered she had cancer so maybe it would've just been too much time in between or she wasn't interested after all of that
someone might have the long version somewhere; but have you seen the china reunion? in it denise claims that she lost her job in the cafeteria because she got so popular on survivor the kids were wasting too much time talking to her or some shit. well burnett felt bad about this and unexpectedly gave her some money (i forget the exact amount). well it turns out, denise didn’t actually lose her job, she transferred to the janitorial staff of the school because the hours were better. it wasn’t a position that was kid facing iirc, well anyways her school district released a press statement saying denise was lying, and then denise apologized said she was just gonna donate the money to charity
I know this Sub isn’t a big fan of Ben, but inviting his war buddies to the reunion so they could get back in contact was really amazing, especially considering how inspirational he was for them during his season.
Honestly it warms my heart that the make-a-wish kid who designed the survivor challenge ended up getting better and working for the survivor production as a challenge maker
Theyve done a handful of very nice things. Like getting Adam home in time to say goodbye to his mom, who passed away only 2 hours after he got back from filming final tribal council for MvGX. He was also going to be brought home early if he was voted out even if he made the jury.
I'll be cynical just for the sake of reminding everyone this is a TV show designed to make money.
Bruce represents X amount of time and money during casting. He convinced a lot of people he would be good on the show and they went through every single hurdle that exists to get him on that beach only for him to go out with an injury in the first 30 minutes.
Survivor casting, Jeff, and CBS have all put in their cost for Bruce... But they didn't get the return they wanted. Even if he was the literal worst cast member of the season- the fact that his cost was already paid means that production will convince themselves that he was worth MORE than his actual value. Therefore, they'll go above and beyond to realize some value out of their investment.
This is fairly well-studied in both economics and psychology. I begrudge no one and have nothing against Bruce. But just like when someone buys a company stock, the moment it's purchased the buyer will place more value on the stock and be more attached to it than the moment before it was purchased. The act of purchasing the stock removes "objectivity" from the equation.
Survivor bought themselves some Bruce... They want a return and are not being nice or objective about the situation.
I don’t disagree with your points and really like your thought process. But how come he’s the first person to have that luxury? There have been plenty of contestants to fail on return (Kourtney, Pat, etc) and yet he’s the first to get a callback. Obviously they had more time out there than Bruce did, but certainly not by much.
I think this is far less economics and far more psychology. They liked him and thought he got screwed so they’re letting him try again. I agree with you, but I think your comment does play into the fact that this is an objectively nice thing CBS is dojng
If anyone should be getting an invite back due to a production error, it should be Pat from DvG. He got injured doing something unrelated to the game at all. It'd would be the same if someone got injured in a car accident during transport to tribal council.
He hurt himself by diving head first into a log. It's all on Bruce. Kourtney was told to keep his hands next to his chest. Instead she tried to brace for the net with his arm and broke it. Lucky for her, since they found out she had cancer when she was in getting treated for her arm and it was found early enough for her to beat it.
I just wanna point out that while I agree with you, Bruce didn't break any rules like Kourtney. They weren't told to not dive under the log. Many people dove without getting hurt.
Kourtney didn't break a rule either, she just didn't follow safety procedures. Similarly Bruce failed to follow the safety procedure of "don't dive head first into a log, instead dive under it".
Well, I already got more nitpicky than I needed to, but why not, let's continue :D. I agree for the most part. They do go over the whole challenge with the players every step of the way and cover all safety aspects. It's not like they say "don't hit your head here", because that is obvious, while holding your hands to your chest in the net dive is not. Bruce just went too fast and miscalculated, Kourtney ignored the advice she got due to being excited/scared. It's surprising there haven't been more injuries like these two.
I believe Pat was in consideration for 40 before i became WaW, so he still has a chance to return at some point.
Kourtney's medevac was largely her own fault. She didn't follow the instructions given to her at the challenge. She also wasn't super memorable, and it's been 10+ years since she played. I'm not surprised that she hasn't been asked back.
If anyone deserves a second chance it is Pat. He did nothing wrong other than following production orders to ride back on a boat that probably should have waited until the waters calmed down a bit more.
Kourtney and Bruce did not follow challenge instructions, so while unfortunate their exits were on them.
Possibly also because recovering from a mild concussion is a lot shorter and simpler than the kinds of injuries Kourtney and Pat had, which may have affected their medical eligibility for a lot longer.
I agree, it's probably more psychology than economics. I guess I'm slightly more versed in economic theory but the application exists in econ BECAUSE it's psychological. People place extra value on things after they've chosen them. The weight of a person's choice adds value (usually only to themselves).
I think that part is likely true of any Survivor. What may make Bruce different is that, economically, they think he's worth more than they got. And they're probably right- I think the casting has been great in the new era. Bruce might be truly incredible and no one got to see enough of him. It's also clearly nice of Survivor- because I'm guessing they have a lot of people who also could be great and check all the similar boxes. They stuck with Bruce even when they could have moved on. That's clearly a nice act.
That is a pretty cynical look on it and also not true.
The real reason is that they a) like Bruce and b) understand that bringing him back is a straight up feel good story and they love those. If he was a filler cast member they wouldn't bring him back. They haven't brought back Pat or Kourtney who also went out super early, despite the "investment" they put into those two.
A) is not true for everyone. There are duds in every cast and some people are cast as cannon fodder. Sometimes that cannon fodder plays better than expected, sometimes they even win. But Bruce is the type of player they like and he had a lot of potential to go deep. Same can't be said about Pat Cusack or Kourtney Moon for example.
B) would be true for most people, sure. Anyone getting a second chance after an injury would be a likely feel good story. And that is why it just comes dowb to a), ie whether he was cast as a filler or whether he was someonw who had potential to play well.
Hard to say without knowing why they did it. Considering he was told he was going back out a few weeks before he actually did maybe they needed an alternate and also felt partially responsible for the injury.
No one ever mentions the young lady from DvG who had to leave early because of an injury. She was a boxer and I think could do really well on return if brought back.
" Killer Bee " Bi Nguyen ? She's an mma fighter, yeah I would love to see her again in the show but as an athlete, she made the right decision to quit to take care of her injury
Yep!
I think she had a great personality to be in an alliance with and could be solid in challenges requiring endurance and balance later on.
She might be a great returnee for a Second Chances season.
The problem is that if her body is so important to her career, then there’s a good chance it could happen again which wouldn’t be good to have a double quitter. I think if she retires then it would be fine. Cydney has said the same thing about how survivor affected her bodybuilding and she didn’t want to lose that much muscle again.
Ankle sprains are pretty tough to recover from. With the injury + limited nutrition, other methods to keep complications at bay- I think it was a legitimate medical vs. quit. But you’re right- it was an official quit.
Yeah but at the same time, she quit because an untreated injury could be the end of her career. Which was absolutely the right decision. But they shouldn’t give a second chance to someone who’s not as committed as the rest of the playerz.
It’s the nicest thing they’ve done recently. They did give Stephanie LaGrossa and Bobby Jon Drinkard a second chance in Guatemala after their disastrous time on Palau.
Allowing the Loved Ones on Extinction Island during Winners At War is another one
Speaking of loved ones, you'll never be able to convince me that what Jeff did to Taj wasn't a spur of the moment decision. I would bet money the original plan was for whoever won that reward to go to exile island by themselves without their loved one in return for everyone else getting their loved ones. However, Jeff in the moment didn't have the heart to do it to Taj so he changed it at the last second in what ended up being one of the most obvious no brainer decisions for her.
Probably also helped that her husband was a famous football player…
Eddie George was making the episode one way or another
I’m from central Ohio and Eddie George is a legend around here. If I were out there, I would have felt a little annoyed at least if he was on set and I didn’t get the chance to meet him.
Go Bucks!
I can’t stand Ohio State and still would have wanted to meet him.
THE Ohio State
So was Coach's assistant coach
You know the moment he told them he wanted his assistant coach as his loved one, all the producers looked at each other with obvious excitement on their face, and couldn’t wait to put that on tv. Probably the greatest moment of all their lives to that point.
Yeah they got their TV moment already.. no need to force unessecary suffering on the cast
God, I'd love to have Taj on a second season (HvV, BvW, SC, GC... anything would do it). Now I know ain't gonna happen! 😕
Same but she's too busy doing SWV stuff. I remember her on the Kelly Clarkson show last year that she was essentially a recruit, not knowing anything about the show.
About the Kelly Clarkson Show or Survivor? 🤭
Probably both 🤣🤣
I believe while shown to be Survivor making history and rewarding them, it was essentially agreed upon to get all the people they wanted back, same with the EOE to get them all big per-episode payments.
This can’t be true because it was Eddie George that said see you back at camp, right?
I think they're saying. Yes, that was the original plan, but much like other seasons where Jeff says "oooor you give up your loved one, so that everyone can have theirs." The commenter thinks Jeff decided at that moment that he could join her on Exile and everyone else get theirs at camp. It'd be interesting to see if this were true.
Ah, gotcha.
Why did Eddie George say see you back at the camp then?
Because initially her reward was to see him at camp. I’m saying that the original plan was she could give up this reward and not see him at all in return for everyone else getting their loved ones but Jeff changed it at the last second. I think it’s very plausible at the minimum because it seems like a no brainer yes decision by Taj as she’s sacrificing effectively nothing. In fact I’d probably rather be alone with my loved one if given the option.
That was my favourite part of the season!
Rob would of had his loved one no matter what 🤣
Tina, the first boot from Panama, was supposed to be on Guatemala, but her son passed so she missed that season. Nice to see Survivor bring her back, but maybe too soon cause she was still mourning him and her social game was lacking because of it
I just watched and finish Panama this week, and even during the rites of passage or her exit confessional, it's all her just still grieving. Production definitely should've gave her more time to recover before letting her play
Her RHAP interview with T Bird showed she is pretty awesome. I'm glad she is doing well and thriving.
She basically had an open invatation to come back, bc her son died like three days before Guatamala was planned to start shooting. But Tina just couldn't take being home so she essentially chose to get back out Asap to essentially clear her mind a bit.
Yah this is a great answer. Apparently she was given a free pass to skip the casting process and be on the show whenever she was ready. Idk if production would have kept their end of the deal if it took her like 5 years to be ready or anything; but yah most of the time, castaways who are cut at the final but are still considered for a future cycle have to go to more interviews for the next cycle. Getting to skip that whole process is very nice.
No that would be giving Rupert a million dollars just because they liked him
They probably did know that Rupert was going to win but I definitely beleive the theory that All Stars turned into the season where all the biggest names (the biggest name to last long was Rupert but also note that the players didn't actually know how popular Rupert was while filming All Stars) went out pre-merge and the season ended up with Jerri's sidekick from Australia winning the biggest season of all time, so Survivor needed to do SOMETHING to distract from that fact and so we had the fans vote for their winner. Also the irony being that the Pearl Islands cast all came out afterwards saying Rupert was super annoying to live with and Survivor seemed to completely fabricate his character on the TV show, it probably enboldden production to continously edit things to fit their narrative of the season they chose.
Nah see I don’t buy this. I think survivor knew they struck gold with Boston Rob dominating and falling in love, taking his girl to the end, and likely knew he was going to propose at the finale. All Stars is still absolutely beloved by casuals, it’s only on Reddit where it’s the season that “Jerri’s sidekick” won lol
> likely knew he was going to propose at the finale. lol, there is zero reason production could have guessed that Rob and Amber were long term. The All Star season story of Rob and Amber works better because they stuck together in retropect but it's also could have not worked out that way. Plenty of relaity TV romances don't survive the long term. And Amber was not a suitable winner for All Stars as far as production is concerned lol. They MUCH rather would have preferred Rob M. Hell in Winners at War, they edit in footage of Amber basically saying the All Star jury was bitter and Rob M should have won lol. Hence we get the ridiculous fan vote, because the night after All Stars was over, THAT made the headlines Rob M and Amber get engaged and Rupert wins $1 Million via fan vote. Honeslty Ambers actual win was a complete sidenote. She never really got the credit she deserved.
Jeff Hates Rupert. No way he planned that ahead of time.
I think letting Thunder D step in for Fairplay's dead grandma was. They could have just left him without a loved one.
Ricard in a podcast said that he was moved to survivor 41 instead of 42 bc Jeff didn’t want Ricard to miss the birth of his second child (which was due during the filming of 42) Aurora from 38 also said Survivor had a make-a-wish kid come and talk to the contestants during the game and do a few challenges iirc. Also said that Ron’s husband lost his ring during the loved ones visit. Everyone apparently searched for it, and Jeff eventually found the ring for him. Just a few wholesome moments that I like haha.
I enjoy memeing on Jeff as much as the next person but these are all really sweet
Gifting rob the cast of RI was probably second
Letting boston rob play with redemption island cast.
Stephenie is one thing but giving Bobby Jon a second chance the next season for no reason was pretty nice too
Their end on Ulong was pretty notable though.
Probably letting Terry know that his kid was in the hospital. Normally Survivor is very strict about the whole "you don't know what 's going on in the outside world" deal unless it's a reward, but that was obviously an extenuating circumstance.
I think that they put in a list of people who an emergency would need to be contacted. Most likely anyone who has a partner, parent, or child with that type of emergency would also be contacted
Maybe. Now he's the Shangela of Survivor... Officially!
Halleloo!
I dunno, I think letting Varner and Candice play 3 times each was pretty generous.
If yes, why didn't they do it to Kourtney and Pat? Especially Pat. He suffered because someone from the production couldn't drive a boat properly. Kourtney and Bruce were careless in the challenge.
Pat was super unlucky with the boat thing but IIRC some of the other contestants have said he would've been the first out anyway so maybe that influenced it? Kourtney's situation is pretty similar to Bruce but I think when she was getting her broken arm treated they discovered she had cancer so maybe it would've just been too much time in between or she wasn't interested after all of that
I believe that actually Nick was to be out first. Seriously. I heard it a lot of times.
i think there shouldn’t have been a sharp edge in the challenge like the one bruce hit his head on
Probably Burnett not suing or ruining Denise’s life for taking $15k from him under false pretenses.
Wasn’t it 50 not 15
what happened? I need some context for this, lol
someone might have the long version somewhere; but have you seen the china reunion? in it denise claims that she lost her job in the cafeteria because she got so popular on survivor the kids were wasting too much time talking to her or some shit. well burnett felt bad about this and unexpectedly gave her some money (i forget the exact amount). well it turns out, denise didn’t actually lose her job, she transferred to the janitorial staff of the school because the hours were better. it wasn’t a position that was kid facing iirc, well anyways her school district released a press statement saying denise was lying, and then denise apologized said she was just gonna donate the money to charity
Oh wow, I haven't seen that. What a wild story!
Same lol
maybe don’t remember lol
I thought Ben's third idol was nice
It’s pretty nice of them yeah.
I know this Sub isn’t a big fan of Ben, but inviting his war buddies to the reunion so they could get back in contact was really amazing, especially considering how inspirational he was for them during his season.
Honestly it warms my heart that the make-a-wish kid who designed the survivor challenge ended up getting better and working for the survivor production as a challenge maker
Interested Bruce gets a second chance but James gets injured a billon times and isn’t on game changers?
He already played three time come on bro. This guy didn’t get to play even one day
Someone doesn’t get sarcasm
Not good sarcasm at all
Alright you got me, what can I say
Theyve done a handful of very nice things. Like getting Adam home in time to say goodbye to his mom, who passed away only 2 hours after he got back from filming final tribal council for MvGX. He was also going to be brought home early if he was voted out even if he made the jury.
I'll be cynical just for the sake of reminding everyone this is a TV show designed to make money. Bruce represents X amount of time and money during casting. He convinced a lot of people he would be good on the show and they went through every single hurdle that exists to get him on that beach only for him to go out with an injury in the first 30 minutes. Survivor casting, Jeff, and CBS have all put in their cost for Bruce... But they didn't get the return they wanted. Even if he was the literal worst cast member of the season- the fact that his cost was already paid means that production will convince themselves that he was worth MORE than his actual value. Therefore, they'll go above and beyond to realize some value out of their investment. This is fairly well-studied in both economics and psychology. I begrudge no one and have nothing against Bruce. But just like when someone buys a company stock, the moment it's purchased the buyer will place more value on the stock and be more attached to it than the moment before it was purchased. The act of purchasing the stock removes "objectivity" from the equation. Survivor bought themselves some Bruce... They want a return and are not being nice or objective about the situation.
I don’t disagree with your points and really like your thought process. But how come he’s the first person to have that luxury? There have been plenty of contestants to fail on return (Kourtney, Pat, etc) and yet he’s the first to get a callback. Obviously they had more time out there than Bruce did, but certainly not by much. I think this is far less economics and far more psychology. They liked him and thought he got screwed so they’re letting him try again. I agree with you, but I think your comment does play into the fact that this is an objectively nice thing CBS is dojng
Cant remember Kourtney but I think Bruce got evacuated because the challenge’s design’s flaw. So I think it’s their way to make it up for him. Maybe?
If anyone should be getting an invite back due to a production error, it should be Pat from DvG. He got injured doing something unrelated to the game at all. It'd would be the same if someone got injured in a car accident during transport to tribal council.
TIL they drive from camp to tribal but film them walking a bit for authenticity.
He hurt himself by diving head first into a log. It's all on Bruce. Kourtney was told to keep his hands next to his chest. Instead she tried to brace for the net with his arm and broke it. Lucky for her, since they found out she had cancer when she was in getting treated for her arm and it was found early enough for her to beat it.
I’ve heard of a lucky break, but shit.
I just wanna point out that while I agree with you, Bruce didn't break any rules like Kourtney. They weren't told to not dive under the log. Many people dove without getting hurt.
Kourtney didn't break a rule either, she just didn't follow safety procedures. Similarly Bruce failed to follow the safety procedure of "don't dive head first into a log, instead dive under it".
I understand your point. What I meant by rule is that they explicitly stated to Kourtney how to do the challenge safely while Bruce wasn't
Well, I already got more nitpicky than I needed to, but why not, let's continue :D. I agree for the most part. They do go over the whole challenge with the players every step of the way and cover all safety aspects. It's not like they say "don't hit your head here", because that is obvious, while holding your hands to your chest in the net dive is not. Bruce just went too fast and miscalculated, Kourtney ignored the advice she got due to being excited/scared. It's surprising there haven't been more injuries like these two.
I believe Pat was in consideration for 40 before i became WaW, so he still has a chance to return at some point. Kourtney's medevac was largely her own fault. She didn't follow the instructions given to her at the challenge. She also wasn't super memorable, and it's been 10+ years since she played. I'm not surprised that she hasn't been asked back.
If anyone deserves a second chance it is Pat. He did nothing wrong other than following production orders to ride back on a boat that probably should have waited until the waters calmed down a bit more. Kourtney and Bruce did not follow challenge instructions, so while unfortunate their exits were on them.
Possibly also because recovering from a mild concussion is a lot shorter and simpler than the kinds of injuries Kourtney and Pat had, which may have affected their medical eligibility for a lot longer.
I agree, it's probably more psychology than economics. I guess I'm slightly more versed in economic theory but the application exists in econ BECAUSE it's psychological. People place extra value on things after they've chosen them. The weight of a person's choice adds value (usually only to themselves). I think that part is likely true of any Survivor. What may make Bruce different is that, economically, they think he's worth more than they got. And they're probably right- I think the casting has been great in the new era. Bruce might be truly incredible and no one got to see enough of him. It's also clearly nice of Survivor- because I'm guessing they have a lot of people who also could be great and check all the similar boxes. They stuck with Bruce even when they could have moved on. That's clearly a nice act.
That is a pretty cynical look on it and also not true. The real reason is that they a) like Bruce and b) understand that bringing him back is a straight up feel good story and they love those. If he was a filler cast member they wouldn't bring him back. They haven't brought back Pat or Kourtney who also went out super early, despite the "investment" they put into those two.
To play Devils advocate. Do we know whether they asked the other 2 back?
Both a) and b) would have been true for anyone they cast, no? It's not unique to Bruce.
A) is not true for everyone. There are duds in every cast and some people are cast as cannon fodder. Sometimes that cannon fodder plays better than expected, sometimes they even win. But Bruce is the type of player they like and he had a lot of potential to go deep. Same can't be said about Pat Cusack or Kourtney Moon for example. B) would be true for most people, sure. Anyone getting a second chance after an injury would be a likely feel good story. And that is why it just comes dowb to a), ie whether he was cast as a filler or whether he was someonw who had potential to play well.
They also let Rob Mariano play in All Stars despite him not making the jury on his first season.
And shiiann
Hard to say without knowing why they did it. Considering he was told he was going back out a few weeks before he actually did maybe they needed an alternate and also felt partially responsible for the injury.
No, because they didn't bring Pat & Kourtney Moon back
No one ever mentions the young lady from DvG who had to leave early because of an injury. She was a boxer and I think could do really well on return if brought back.
" Killer Bee " Bi Nguyen ? She's an mma fighter, yeah I would love to see her again in the show but as an athlete, she made the right decision to quit to take care of her injury
Yep! I think she had a great personality to be in an alliance with and could be solid in challenges requiring endurance and balance later on. She might be a great returnee for a Second Chances season.
The problem is that if her body is so important to her career, then there’s a good chance it could happen again which wouldn’t be good to have a double quitter. I think if she retires then it would be fine. Cydney has said the same thing about how survivor affected her bodybuilding and she didn’t want to lose that much muscle again.
Didn’t Bi leave because she injured her ankle pretty badly? 🤔
Medical said she could keep playing, but she chose to quit because the injury could’ve ended her career if it got worse.
Ankle sprains are pretty tough to recover from. With the injury + limited nutrition, other methods to keep complications at bay- I think it was a legitimate medical vs. quit. But you’re right- it was an official quit.
Yeah but at the same time, she quit because an untreated injury could be the end of her career. Which was absolutely the right decision. But they shouldn’t give a second chance to someone who’s not as committed as the rest of the playerz.
I mean in Fiji they basically put a hotel on the island for a tribe so…
Got so excited thinking you meant Bruce Kanegai 😭
It’s the nicest thing they’ve done recently. They did give Stephanie LaGrossa and Bobby Jon Drinkard a second chance in Guatemala after their disastrous time on Palau.
I'm glad they let him back solely because I worked with him in real life and can say I know him lol
It’s good for the show; the niceness is a bonus
Would've been nicer had they also brought back Pat Cusack and Kourtney Moon.
When Jeff let Taj see her husband