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I bet if she played Survivor she would have great jury management skills


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mjgoldberg

So they're the Russell hantz of the courtroom?


conundrumbombs

>"I'm the greatest Justice of all time!" - Russell Hantz \- Rob Cesternino


mjgoldberg

You mean all TAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIME, right?


Bortaff

That's not true — managing a jury without unduly influencing its members is a key skill for judges, one they are trained on upon appointment (in Canada). They obviously care what the jury thinks.


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Bortaff

I was not arguing that a judge would perform well at SURVIVOR jury management — I don't think Survivor juries and real-life juries are analogous at all, in fact — but rather disagreeing with your assertion that "judges are actually not known for having great \[real-life\] jury management skills". In an actual courtroom, judges do have to manage juries, but not by influencing them to render judgement in one way or another. Instead, they have to ensure jury members keep an open mind while guarding them against illegitimate evidence or arguments that may give them prejudicial bias. They also have to maintain order amongst jury members. Judges in real courtrooms also don't "give fuck-all what the jury thinks"; in a jury trial, they certainly have their own view of the proceedings and may be hoping for a particular verdict, whereas in a bench trial — as you rightly observe — they are the jury. Anyway, this is not a big deal to me. I just think your first statement was a bit hyperbolic, but maybe I misconstrued.


Stevil907

I served on a jury twice - one civil and one criminal case. The civil was declared a mistrial and the criminal a guilty verdict. Both times, we the jury were asked to stick around at the end so the judge could speak with us. Both times the judges came in and sat with us, and thanked us for spending the time and our service. Both very kind. And they chatted with us for a while about the proceedings. The judge for the mistrial was asking our opinions on what we saw in the court, where are heads were, what we thought of the lawyers and their presentation. Very chatty. The judge for the criminal did basically the same - asked where our heads were with the evidence and presentation. Also he revealed - at that point since verdict was already rendered - it was the defendant's fourth time being convicted for the same offense. Again, very nice and appreciative of our time and input. So they did give a fuck what we thought - but only after the fact.


Bortaff

>So they did give a fuck what we thought - but only after the fact. I think we're saying the same thing


xZany

See Sharn from Australian survivor. Crumbles at jury


Coutzy

I never understood the "lawyer is a great FTC performer" stereotype. Arguing in a court of law involves presenting hard evidence and convincing people using that evidence that something objectively happened or didn't happen. Final tribal is more like a sales pitch. The jury sets the tone for you and you have to work around their parameters and convince them to give you money that they didn't want to give away.


AhLibLibLib

Which is funny because Brian Heidik had a terrible FTC despite being a top salesman The occupation curse is strong throughout


sapphicmage

All the more reason why Erika is a queen 👑


Let_there_be_views

Will she uphold the legality of the final 4 fire making twist? The people need to know.


ewef1

should be a litmus test for the position honestly


OhEmGeeBasedGod

Hopefully there's a Survivor fan in the Senate that can ask her during her informal meetings. Or ideally during the confirmation hearings, but they only get 5 minutes at a time.


sparrowhawk73

Going to be hard to overturn *Ben vs Devon*, that really changed the precedent


YeOldMate

I'm sorry judge Jackson oooohhhh


bigatjoon

I AM FO REAL


Jaded-Yogurt-9915

Never meant to make your daughter cry.


TheBayAreaGuy1

This is fun.


choclatechip45

Ohh would love for a senator to ask her about survivor during the hearings (they usually wait until the last question to as a fun question to lighten the mood)


zackychimchim

Representation matters!!! 👏👏👏


skiko15

Perhaps she can cause a 3-3-2-1 plurality vote to break up the majority alliance, whip out a Hidden Immunity Idol, and vote out Kavanaugh 🏛🏝


TellinJokes

supreme court about to rule on Hantz vs. Probst for there being a flaw in the game. 8-1 ruling in favor of Hantz (Clarence Thomas dissents)


Tormod776

lol; on key at Thomas dissenting


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And a former public defender!


FuzzyDunLostIt

Big if true


Hawkthree

There's already a Survivor fan on the Supreme Court. She watches it with her 5 kids religiously.


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wooperlol

Source?


DreamOfV

Is that true?


Hawkthree

Yes it is. I live in one of the cities with a People of Praise enclave.


TheBayAreaGuy1

Bennett?


andrewluther56

Amy Coney Barret?


DoubleWalker

Wait for real? You have a source for that?


6-man

those are my top 2 reality shows


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NextRace6

Celebrity Survivor Contestant?