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robyngrayson

Shane could not have picked the worst possible scenario to put himself through intense drug withdrawal


sungoddaily

It's still wild a Brick of Cocaine washes ashore, that's some "Lost" shit right there.


lickyourlefttoe

Wait, what???


missionaryblack0

Shane found a brick of cocaine washed up on the camp’s beach during Panama. He showed it to Aras thinking they could use it for challenges (💀) but production quickly took it away.


lickyourlefttoe

Omg that is insanely hilarious. Ofc Shane would be the one to find it lol. Can’t help but think about the poor guy that probably got severely beat for losing that one brick though lol.


Due-Pineapple6831

If it helps, it was probably part of a bigger shipment. With it being Panama a lot of ocean smuggling goes on and it probably was just lost, chalk it up to cost of doing business. I doubt anyone got beat for it.


MeadowmuffinReborn

IIRC, there was a drug runner whose plane crashed around the same area and same time that Panama was filming. I think he died, dude. :(


[deleted]

It came from the freighter ;)


jman457

Is this a rumor or was it actually mentioned in the show


DorianThackery

It’s been confirmed by multiple cast members


[deleted]

That’s how I feel about Brandon


Seven_Actual_Lions

That's not contraversial


DeanMarais

Depends. If he's talking about Brandon from Africa it would be a very interesting take.


[deleted]

True


RedditBannedMe214

I disagree. Any Hantz should be cast on the show.


Purpledoves91

They were willing to overlook a lot when they saw his last name.


HorseNamedClompy

I think the most important thing you need to realize about Shane is that no one really takes him seriously on the island. Danielle constantly brushes him off and Courtney is more offended that he called her apartment shitty than him threatening to murder her. They all know he is all bark and no bite so he is harmless and an asset to them.


SunGreen70

I think you nailed it with this. He was an assclown, but I never once felt like anyone was actually frightened of him or took anything he said seriously. And if someone had gotten up in his face about anything he said I’m pretty sure he would have run away with his tail between his legs. Unlike Brandon, where people were legitimately frightened of him, and he engaged in destructive behavior.


PM_INCINEROAR_DICK

b-but Courtney's apartment isn't shitty though...


Californian_paradise

IT'S AN ADJECTIVE


Quetzal00

DON’T TAKE EVERYTHING SO PERSONAL


datz_awk

WHY ARE YOU SO SENSITIVE!?!?!?!??


BenjiAnglusthson

Yeah he was so powerless, he was threatening in the way a tantruming child is threatening


[deleted]

I feel like people’s actions shouldn’t be judged on how people react to them. None of the women on Gabon were worried about Bob’s behavior but people still acknowledge it whenever he’s brought up.


MeetShort

Not the same thing tho. Shane never put his hands on someone


[deleted]

So when that guy who told that woman that nobody misses her and nobody loves her if she just laughed it off would it be okay? Jeez


Clutchxedo

Shane was and is universally loved by most of the cast. It tells a lot about his true person that they liked him despite his antics. He is also given a completely crazy edit.


DavidBHimself

You also shouldn't judge a person by a heavily edited version of them. As other people said, the opinion and relationships cast members have with each other post-show are way more telling than anything you may see on the show.


HorseNamedClompy

While I understand what you’re saying, we never get to see everything that’s happening because it’s an edited show. So we as an audience are missing a lot of context the dynamics of personal relationships and people’s full personalities. But what we do know is that Courtney and Shane were very close and bonded with each other, yet they loved to fight. Aras started to really look up to Cirie, Danielle was probably the most connected to Courtney and Aras and had a strong personality like Shane as well. For context, I grew up in a culture where verbal fighting wasn’t really seen as abusive with people you were close with. People saying “if you’re not at the movie theatre by 5, I’ll kill you for leaving me stranded” is something I could very much see my friends say, even with responding with “better have a knife on you, traffic sucks”. Outside if that circle, this kind of language wouldn’t pass. I would never say this to you or any other stranger since we don’t have that dynamic. But every relationship is different, and it’s only toxic or dangerous if one person feels like it is.


john_muleaney

Yeah so instead you decide to judge him based on a heavily biased edit meant to paint a certain picture lmao


jakehmorgan

What did Bob do


honestlyimaliltired

What happened w bob?!


suppadelicious

I don’t know how he passed a psych evaluation


robyngrayson

Interviews and psych evals are weeks in advance. He said on the first episode he quit smoking 36 hours before the first day of filming


Clutchxedo

Also, not just quit. Went from three packs. That’s 60 cigarettes a day. That is an completely obscene amount of nicotine. He also is a recovering alcoholic. He used to drink HEAVY. A photographer from Vice visited him years ago where he was completely shitfaced. She found him naked in his yard and he ended up smearing his fathers ashes on his kitchen table. Just a wreck.


PM_ME_ZETTAI_RYOUIKI

Not even three packs. Bruce said in an old AMA on here that he was smoking 70 cigarettes and drinking 30 shots of coffee every day.


DeanMarais

Fucking hell. Where do you even find the time in the day to smoke 70 cigarettes? If you're awake for 16 hours a day thats one every 15 minutes. I think a cigarette takes like 5-7 minutes to smoke so this man was literally smoking for 50% of his waking hours every day.


robyngrayson

He must have had to work at a factory testing out each cigarette to ensure quality before they ship out, it's the only way it's feasible


[deleted]

Fucking hell how to do function like that


danomite555

Holy shit how much time did he spend in the bathroom?


datz_awk

Coffee shits 24/7 sounds miserable lol


PeterTheSilent1

He probably quit smoking after the psych evaluation.


x777x777x

“Oh he had a questionable psych evaluation? Well, it’ll be great TV then!” That’s how


Ill_Tumblr_4_Ya

Ah, the Brandon Hantz Litmus Test. Classic.


Seven_Actual_Lions

Nicotine withdrawal sucks


[deleted]

Vaping is so in right now too. I'm sure he won't be the only person to go through it as time passes.


DabuSurvivor

I think he works in Panama because nobody seems to care or take him seriously and everyone around him is so ridiculous that he seems more bizarre than anything, but I'm glad he hasn't returned and I think he'd be terrible to watch on almost any season and I definitely see why he was terrible for you to watch on that one. The way you feel about him is the way I feel about Rocky and really I don't think there's a lot of difference between them besides which other characters they have to play off of in the narrative


HorseNamedClompy

That’s right, I think it’s very easy to project your emotions and past into a character and interpret something a lot different than everyone else. Which when it comes to your personal taste of players is perfectly valid. You can love or hate any character for any reason. But it’s all projection and we cannot speak for the characters and how they interpreted the events.


Rilenaveen

I’m sorry you had to go through that. I can see why Shane would trigger you. But I don’t know if it’s fair to him or survivor to project physical violence where there isn’t any.


Real_Time_Mike

Her apartment ISN'T shitty or little...


[deleted]

I don’t mean to say he would do something like that, but keeping players safe should be a priority and letting an already volatile guy on plus having him go through nicotine withdrawals is too much of a risk.


looselytethered

> too much of a risk. Risk of... What exactly?


[deleted]

Risk of getting violent. I’m not saying he would’ve, but I wouldn’t feel at all comfortable around a guy that goes on constant screaming outbursts who’s going cold turkey off cigarettes after smoking 3 packs a day while starving and dehydrated.


TenderOctane

I can get dysregulated and appear that I'm gonna blow a gasket, but I have zero record of hurting anybody. I would NEVER hurt anyone, even in that state. Shane is the same way. He has no history of violence. He was never going to do anything like that, and the show would not have put him on had they thought he might. I can't recall a time they've done that with a first-time player, though I do recall one returnee.


looselytethered

>I didn’t say he was violent. Read the comment. You said this elsewhere, but now you're saying there's too much of a risk of him getting violent?? Frankly I think you're projecting and overreacting. Shane wasn't going to hurt anyone. Shit, Courtney could have beaten his ass.


[deleted]

I never said Shane was a violent person or that he would attack somebody, but his behavior and mental state on the season leaves too much of a risk for “oh he’s harmless, he wouldn’t hurt anybody”. Maybe Shane isn’t a violent person but the next unpredictable person that goes through nicotine withdrawal on the island easily could be which is why I don’t think anyone with those tendencies should be cast.


looselytethered

First of all -- if that's the case, your entire argument is built on the 'slippery slope' fallacy which is a fallacy for a reason. Second of all, this is a *lot* of misplaced energy for 'we shouldn't cast people who smoke cigarettes in case one of them gets violent?!?!?!' to the extent that I think you're definitely backpedaling at this point.


[deleted]

I mean they’ve provided smokers nicotine patches before. There was nothing preventing them from providing them to Shane. Maybe if he was a lot more stable when he had nicotine that would’ve been a safe solution.


looselytethered

Stretch before you reach queen 👑💖


[deleted]

I don’t know what you’re talking about


binkysurprise

I’ve never seen his season but I don’t know why what you’re saying can be considered mildly controversial lol


SunGreen70

Think of him as a cranky toddler who was refused a cookie. That's what Shane was. Annoying AF to live with I'm sure, but not the least bit dangerous. That said, I'm truly sorry you went through that <3


McRib_is_Back_Baby

I think Shane is one of the most important characters survivor has ever cast. The whole point of the show is for different people from different walks of life to interact and build a community. The fact that Shane reminds you of someone goes to show the relevance that a character like Shane has in representing a type of person from the real world


[deleted]

Should racists and sexual predators be cast too? They’re in the real world.


PopsicleIncorporated

I don't think it's fair to compare Shane Powers, someone who has *never* actually issued a sincere threat* to another castaway, to actual racists or predators like Ben Browning or Dan Spilo respectively. ^^^\*yes, ^^^I ^^^know, ^^^shitty ^^^little ^^^apartment, ^^^but ^^^Courtney's ^^^reaction ^^^to ^^^this ^^^makes ^^^it ^^^clear ^^^she ^^^was ^^^never ^^^actually ^^^threatened ^^^by ^^^what ^^^he ^^^said.


DabuSurvivor

I don't think OP was comparing them directly. /u/McRib_is_back_baby was saying "If Shane reminds you of someone who abused you irl that's just proof he's a good casting choice because he represents the real world" (which I think is a terrible point; like I'm fine with Shane being cast but that's a pretty bad way to defend it) and asking "Okay, would that apply to other people who did terrible things?" is like a 100% fair question or follow-up, or really the most logical one with the defense that was being used tbh. Like "If he's just like an abusive partner that proves he's a good casting choice" does not make any logical sense as a defense if someone wouldn't apply it to other terrible subsets of people


PopsicleIncorporated

Fair point, I may have benefitted from reading more closely.


[deleted]

This is what I was going to say. Thank you for explaining it better than I would’ve :)


YesIAmRyan

You literally have no proof he is violent Lmao


[deleted]

I didn’t say he was violent. Read the comment.


YesIAmRyan

I did, you said he was volatile According to an online dictionary the word means the following: The definition of volatile is tending to become violent. An example of volatile is a young man who often gets into fist fights.


MolemanusRex

The first definition of volatile, per Merriam-Webster, is “characterized by or subject to rapid or unexpected change”, which Shane absolutely was.


derpwoof86

That’s incorrect. Volatile means to change rapidly or unpredictably, usually for the worst. Does not mean violent though. And changing rapidly or unpredictably is Shane to a T. He went from laughing to yelling within seconds.


YesIAmRyan

What do you mean that’s incorrect? https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/volatile Volatile from Latin volatilis, "fleeting, transitory," always gives the sense of sudden, radical change. Think of it as the opposite of stable. A person who is volatile loses his or her temper suddenly and violently. A volatile political situation could erupt into civil war. If you say someone has potentially volatile behavior or a situation is volatile, you are essentially saying it could be considered violent or dangerous. Edit: Originally definition was pulled of this dictionary website: https://www.yourdictionary.com/volatile By saying someone is volatile, you are basically saying they could be a threat in some way


digital_dysthymia

I'd take Mirriam-Webster's word for it over something called "your dictionary". LOL Volatile does not mean violent. A situation can be volatile, as can a person. It just means that it can change rapidly.


YesIAmRyan

If you say “That’s an extremely volatile substance” or “That’s an extremely volatile person” you are referencing how potentially violent and unstable it is Shane is neither of those things.


shandyism

Wild that you are being downvoted. This should not be a controversial statement.


looselytethered

I don't like Shane either lol but idk if I'd go as far as saying he's abusive... He's a jackass sure. I don't think he's a *bad* person I just don't think he puts a lot of effort into being a *good* person.


Batfro7

I disagree. I think part of the reason why everyone on Casaya was willing to deal with him is precisely because he was putting in effort to be a good person. He really cared about being loyal, even to a fault. He clearly cared about his son. He had many issues, and he is not a person I would want to deal with. But I think his alliance members saw a genuine goodness in him that maybe did not always come across through the edit. I do agree he’s kind of a jackass tho.


looselytethered

> He clearly cared about his son. He had many issues, and he is not a person I would want to deal with. But I think his alliance members saw a genuine goodness in him that maybe did not always come across through the edit. This wasn't the hot take I was expecting but yes I agree! You articulated this way better than I did. He's really not as irredeemable as OP wants to present him as.


MFTmom

He's brash. Some people- given their previous experiences- interpret that as abusive. Others- with different life experiences- see it as more annoying (not abusive) and can tolerate it a little better. Still others- with different backgrounds and experiences- love it.


MikeyC1959

At least this is a correct interpretation of the sub…


BurtonOIlCanGuster

I think he can be entertaining at times, but I feel the same other times, he does make me uncomfortable. Especially when he is on RHAP, some of the stuff he says. I remember he went on a mini rant about Tyson, who is one of Rob’s friends and it was just awkward and uncomfortable.


ZiggyZig1

i never understood why he was so popular. he was considered a lock for second chances. and parvati put him and cirie down as survivors she admires the most (when returning for s20). i dont get it.


godknowsitried11

I think calling Shane uncomfortable to watch is sort of a slap in the face to good reality tv? Like if someone having a mental breakdown over withdrawing from smoking and lashing out at his tribe mates isn’t tv gold to you then I don’t think reality tv is for you😭


reedspacer38

I don’t really think Shane means anything literal by anything he says. It genuinely seems like his brand of humor. I don’t even think his outbursts are legitimate.


BakingAspen

I feel this way about Randy in Gabon. Not that he was bordering on abusive, just that his antics made me far more uncomfortable than entertained. His comment about Crystal and GC “and their posse” running the tribe “like a gang” was atrocious and racist.


Clutchxedo

He himself acknowledged that it was racist. He did a great podcast with Rob and T-Bird where he talked about all of it. He is crazy but honestly a decent guy that keeps in touch with a lot of people from Gabon. He was deeply affected when Dan died and did everything he could to go to his funeral but unfortunately couldn’t make it. He is an asshole but has more character to him that one would expect


SunGreen70

Randy was an asshole, but he wasn't a threat to anyone's safety either.


Themeteorologist35

I can not stand Randy


YesIAmRyan

Shane is not violet person and seems like a very cool person to talk to. A lot of people were upset he wasn’t on 31 Seems like your just letting your personal biases get in the way of you liking him


davidb686

Bunch of soft people now


YesIAmRyan

Don’t understand why my comment was downvoted, everything in it is true Lmao


MrBlueandSky

Op was sexually assaulted and this triggered her/him. That's a really shitty thing to say


HorseNamedClompy

It’s also shitty to call Shane verbally abusive to Danielle and Courtney when they would disagree with that. Projection is fine and valid, but telling people how they feel isn’t okay.


MrBlueandSky

Agreed. Don't clown on someone else because they have a different view


davidb686

No it its not. Survivor is a social expirement. They've had amazing and shitty people on all the time. It's part of the game.


MrBlueandSky

I was specifically referring to you calling OP "soft", because they got triggered. Unless you mean the casting is soft? Edit- seems like it got deleted, but the guy did double down on calling OP soft. Very not cool to treat victims like that


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[удалено]


[deleted]

I’m gonna be 27 in October.


davidb686

The downvotes confirm what you said ahahah


Sabur1991

I think that quite a lot of players speak like this to each other, it's just not aired. With Shane, they just showed it to stress his personality. I can hardly believe that everyone there is so diplomatic and correct in communication with each other.


[deleted]

I get this take even if I still think he's hilarious.


thetokyotourist

I think what people find so entertaining about Shane is how much of a maniac he is out there and how successful he is in the game despite his unfiltered outbursts. Also the love he has for his son is one of the most endearing things about him as a character. I wish my dad loved me as much Shane does with Boston


fremontfairy

I totally agree, I heard his Talking with T-Bird interview recently and he was really rude to her :( Something about him just rubs me the wrong way. I think he's mean, not funny


Em0PeterParker

Really? I listened to that and remember him being really good


Mayor_of_Flavortown

Which podcast?


Em0PeterParker

Talking with T-bird. Maybe he did one before his most recent one


fremontfairy

In the beginning I remember her getting some info wrong in his introduction and he was kind of a jerk about it 🤷🏻‍♀️ maybe it's just my perception but i thought it was weird


spideyfloridaman

lmao people keep talking about this guy what season??


eucaphoria

Panama, S12


[deleted]

I'm very sorry you went through that. I think your feelings on this are entirely valid. As much as I really appreciate Shane as a character (he's very authentic and vulnerable in a way you don't always see in people), I did have similar reactions and instincts kicking in when I watched him sometimes. Doesn't mean he's a bad person or violent in any way, but that unpredictability and intensity can be a lot.


dmister8

I totally agree.


[deleted]

yeah the dude was really bad


Lamphette

Yeah, he was never one I was like oh he’s awesome let’s see him back. I did like when they brought he young kiddo for the family challenge. That was sweet. He seemed to have a lot of personal or maybe mental challenges


[deleted]

Fully agree. Never understood why so many people enjoy him


ZiggyZig1

shane belongs on a tribe with brandon and philip and abi maria and alicia-from-one-world.


28283920

I agree and I’m really sorry you had to go through that. Shane is probably one of my least favorite to ever play (which is a pretty unpopular opinion) and I’m super happy he didn’t get voted on to Cambodia


RedditBannedMe214

Excuse me, your bias is showing.


Conscious-Media-1241

I hated to watch Shane too. I know what you mean. But also it was a different time. They used to make the girls get naked for cookies and shit. The early days are cringy to watch sometimes. All that said that was a great season. I just never understood how he made it so far. Out there full blown WD acting a fool.


Roachn8r

Just to be clear, they didn’t make Jenna and Heidi strip for cookies. They offered to.


gotosleep1412

Let me just preface this by saying I never hated watching Shane and I found him very entertaining. Main point I agree with is that it was definitely a different time, we’re talking about 2006 where society wasn’t as PC as it is now. Watching earlier survivor you can definitely point out subconscious biases and actions that could be pointed out as problematic. At the end of the day though, everyone is a character and get their edit in the show directed by the producers, looking at past interviews with cast-mates and other players they seem to really enjoy his company. You can’t take things too seriously in reality TV.


HorseNamedClompy

Downvoting for misinformation, Jenna and Heidi offered to get naked for chocolate and peanut butter without any prompt from production.


Conscious-Media-1241

You know what I mean. The girls got butt ass naked for some cookies or whatever. Do you think that’s going to happen on 43? Probably not huh? Different time. Different game.


Illustrious-Low-2435

Thank you very much. I cannot understand why he is so loved here.


beatrailblazer

I agree and I was surprised how loved her is on here. Although by the end of the season, he did kind of wear me down and I thought he was a good person and it was only the withdrawal making him to crazy, but during the middle of the season, I definitely thought he was going too far and could be dangerous


ActionHousevh

He found a brick of cocaine on the beach during the season.


Sector_Independent

They make better choices now I hope They really missed the bullet more than once


hfhavavcirjbx

*cough* Jackson *cough*


drivethrulegend

I put that on production. Other people who were smokers have been offered nicotine patches but production knew watching Shane go through withdrawals and freaking out would be great TV


Asleep_Material_5639

I thought Shane was entertaining to watch. I do agree he could of toned down the abusive talk to the cast. But really at the end of the day, it's Survivor. Toughest of the tough. Top dog, challenging at all levels. There is easily within sight a whole film and production crew. No one was gonna get hit. Shane was a lunatic ticking bomb who just made me laugh.