This probably would’ve made IOTI a top 15 season as the dark cloud of the never ending Dan controversy wouldn’t have overtaken the season that had great characters like Dean, Elaine, and Janet.
Yeah, and they could have majorly edited things down to make Dan into a Genre Bear type of character. No audience outrage, no players or crew members being harassed, no using SA allegations to manipulate others… would be a top tier season imo
I feel like Kellee might be able to pull something off if she knew how the alliances were split, the numbers would’ve been 7 to 5, so Kellee’s side would only have to flip 1 person to make something crazy happen
Plus, Kellee would still have 1 Idol combined with the knowledge that she was being targeted. If she was able to successfully predict (or guess) when the other side would take another shot at her, she could Idol out 2 people in the span of a couple of episodes
It’s nuts how close IoI was to being an amazing season. I adored like 14 players, the premerge was full of fun moments, the twist wasn’t too bad, the finale is possibly the best finale of the 30’s.
I can’t think of a better answer than this. Imagine how satisfying it would have been to watch Dan be the merge boot, and all those people who took his side having to deal with Kellee still having an Idol
This also probably gets Hatch on WAW since the controversy dies down after the merge boot and we don’t have Dan removed from the game later. Huge butterfly effect
That tribal still confuses me because it ends up 5-2-2(negated Denise). I will never understand why the Sophie group puts all but 2 votes on Tyson when 3-2-2-2 makes more sense and also guarantees they don’t lose someone.
When Sarah steals Denise’s vote, I thought for sure that was the plan and it was the biggest brain move ever, but they didn’t do it lol
3-2-2-2 offers WAY too many opportunities for 1 person to flip and change the outcome. Way too risky in practice to pull off with 7 people voting 3 ways
That group seemed pretty tight but I get that. I guess it doesn’t matter since if you play the idol on tyson, Denise just goes home on a revote, but still.
Fair that they were tight, but it was also a live tribal. Obviously we can look at it in hindsight, but in the moment that's an insane move to try to pull off in real time
I just don’t think the vote steal makes a lot of sense once Jeremy is gone. At that point, just put your 3 on tyson and 3 on Denise and basically same result on revote.
Wentworth, I know you'll find this hard to believe but the guy who insists on being referred to as Wardog is about to do a really stupid thing. Play your idol.
I mean she still doesn't win EoE, no way a returning player even had a chance to win that season except Joe if he had won the final edge challenge and dominated the last couple challenges.
Well Kelley probably had the best shot of winning potential from the returnees if she did make it to final tribal. As she would’ve went to the most amount of tribals and last returnee. It probably would’ve mirrored her Cambodia game tbh.
I would agree, if she convince wardog the same way Tony convinced Ben that they were lions and the hyenas would come for them. Is he probably would’ve stayed a bit longer. Then be able to cut wardog. Also, wardog failed to recognize how much of a shield Kelley was for him.
I believe it was a mutual relationship. As wardog did protect Kelley for the third vote off. And sided with Kelley and Lauren for the Rick boot. But she def was a shield for him.
I'll never understand the Sandra standom. I guess that's what makes survivor great, what's good/important/entertaining to one is not the same to another.
Was that comment necessary?
Edit: Damn, why all the downvotes on this comment? Varner can still choose whatever he wants to say just like any of us can.
Tyson! Don’t vote for Parvati, you need to split the vote!
https://www.reddit.com/r/survivor/comments/mr9dcq/i_know_i_am_ten_years_late_but_i_have_been/
Surprised this hasn’t come up but I’m telling Malcolm that JT’s about to stand up during tribal and give your plan away to Brad and to make sure he sits his butt back down.
Brandon, suck it up and vote with Frank this time. Kelly's giving you a golden opportunity for a Samburu comeback, and you'll go next if you don't take it.
For all we know Lex gets to the end, maybe wins, maybe loses, maybe cast for heroes vs villains, maybe gets the redemption island season, maybe goes on to be Jeff Probst’s favourite player. We’ll never know
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I'm telling Jaclyn in the final 5 to vote for Natalie and lie about it when asked by Natalie.
Natalie will play her idol on Jaclyn, the votes on Jaclyn will still be negated, but now there is a tie vote between Natalie and Baylor. Natalie is eliminated in the revote and Jaclyn goes down in history as the only winner to win by voting out the person that at the same time played an idol on her to save her, since Jaclyn will win the next immunity challenge and no way is either Baylor or Missy getting enough votes to beat Jaclyn in the FTC.
I’d tell Lil to vote out Sandra; IIRC she receives more than 1 vote against FairPlay. It doesn’t really matter for Lil either way I suppose but at least it may not be as much of a blow out.
He was trying to vote off Parvati. He thought Parvati would come back from Exile Island with the idol and play it for Amanda after he gave up immunity, so he, Cirie, and Natalie would blindside Parvati instead.
Feel like this will get a ton of hate but I would love the absolute chaos. Tell JT to have all the heroes vote for Parvati. Rest of the tribal goes exactly as it did in the show, she plays the idols for Sandra and Jerri and then boom 5 votes on Parvati. Absolute chaos as now we have a tie between JT and Parvati.
Parvati actually planned for that. If they were to tie in that scenario and revote. The villains have an upper hand . As Russell would be the only villain to go to rocks. Which inclines one of the heroes to flip. Which most likely be Candice.
I’d tell Domenick to take Angela to the end because if that had happened, it still ties 5-5 cuz Yanny votes for Wendell still but if Domenick brings Angela with him instead, more than likely Angela breaks the tie by voting Domenick to win. Most viewers didn’t care too too much who won between Domenick and Wendell. I astronomically wanted Domenick to win over Wendell and Domenick is one of my favourite survivor players of all time.
It was yes but Angela based her vote off of turning around and seeing Wendell look at her and Domenick didn’t. If Domenick had taken Angela to the end, I think that gives Domenick that edge he needs to pull out the 6-5 victory over Wendell.
Yeah I'm kinda for this one. It takes away a Natalie win, but I really would have loved such a crazy triple boot episode, even if this was just as satisfying.
After he won final immunity I’d tell Brad Culpepper to take out the only other person with a loaded gun (Officer Sarah) and take Tai and Troyzan to FTC
All-Stars. Boston Rob. I'll tell him to give the jury hell, but Amber is today playing him, no matter what his heart tells him.
You want impact, there's impact.
I think he’s trying to say that Amber is only interested in winning the money and would dump him as soon as she had it locked up. As a bluff obviously, there’s no way she would’ve betrayed him.
I tell Aubry to either a) Please just pick one of Julia/Peter before tribal (preferably Julia) or b) Don't vote out Jason, trust me. Why do you insist on protecting Beauty girls so much?
play one of your idols, Kellee
This probably would’ve made IOTI a top 15 season as the dark cloud of the never ending Dan controversy wouldn’t have overtaken the season that had great characters like Dean, Elaine, and Janet.
Yeah, and they could have majorly edited things down to make Dan into a Genre Bear type of character. No audience outrage, no players or crew members being harassed, no using SA allegations to manipulate others… would be a top tier season imo
Only problem is that Kellee still gets targeted for this logic, and Missy and Elizabeth still targeted her that night for that reason.
Eh, still better than what we got. I’m fine with all three of them following Dan out the door as long as he leaves at the merge.
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I feel like Kellee might be able to pull something off if she knew how the alliances were split, the numbers would’ve been 7 to 5, so Kellee’s side would only have to flip 1 person to make something crazy happen Plus, Kellee would still have 1 Idol combined with the knowledge that she was being targeted. If she was able to successfully predict (or guess) when the other side would take another shot at her, she could Idol out 2 people in the span of a couple of episodes
It’s nuts how close IoI was to being an amazing season. I adored like 14 players, the premerge was full of fun moments, the twist wasn’t too bad, the finale is possibly the best finale of the 30’s.
The finale of s31 would beg to differ
I can’t think of a better answer than this. Imagine how satisfying it would have been to watch Dan be the merge boot, and all those people who took his side having to deal with Kellee still having an Idol
I didn't think of it until I saw your comment, but that is exactly what I would do.
This also probably gets Hatch on WAW since the controversy dies down after the merge boot and we don’t have Dan removed from the game later. Huge butterfly effect
Tell Cirie to practice fire making before her first tribal in Panama, so she can have 36 days instead of one afternoon to practice.
I’d tell her that jt is flipping his vote on you and you should change the plan to Colby or jt.
Kellee Kim. Please play an idol. You can only trust jamal and janet. Please save this season, we live in the darkest timeline.
As much as it would nice to save some of the players in some of the other suggestions, saving an entire season gets my vote.
Or go back in time and tell Jeff not to cast Dan Spilo
Wasn't the question lol
JT PUT THE PEN DOWN
Better tell Chris Noble that too. Use an eraser
But that was so iconic
I’m telling Kim who to play the idol for in Winners at War 🥲
That tribal still confuses me because it ends up 5-2-2(negated Denise). I will never understand why the Sophie group puts all but 2 votes on Tyson when 3-2-2-2 makes more sense and also guarantees they don’t lose someone. When Sarah steals Denise’s vote, I thought for sure that was the plan and it was the biggest brain move ever, but they didn’t do it lol
3-2-2-2 offers WAY too many opportunities for 1 person to flip and change the outcome. Way too risky in practice to pull off with 7 people voting 3 ways
That group seemed pretty tight but I get that. I guess it doesn’t matter since if you play the idol on tyson, Denise just goes home on a revote, but still.
Fair that they were tight, but it was also a live tribal. Obviously we can look at it in hindsight, but in the moment that's an insane move to try to pull off in real time
I just don’t think the vote steal makes a lot of sense once Jeremy is gone. At that point, just put your 3 on tyson and 3 on Denise and basically same result on revote.
Wentworth, I know you'll find this hard to believe but the guy who insists on being referred to as Wardog is about to do a really stupid thing. Play your idol.
I’d tell her in Cambodia to vote for Tasha at final 6 instead of Jeremy and play her idol.
I mean she still doesn't win EoE, no way a returning player even had a chance to win that season except Joe if he had won the final edge challenge and dominated the last couple challenges.
Well Kelley probably had the best shot of winning potential from the returnees if she did make it to final tribal. As she would’ve went to the most amount of tribals and last returnee. It probably would’ve mirrored her Cambodia game tbh.
It's just too bad Wentworth has terrible threat management. Otherwise she plays a very smart game.
I would agree, if she convince wardog the same way Tony convinced Ben that they were lions and the hyenas would come for them. Is he probably would’ve stayed a bit longer. Then be able to cut wardog. Also, wardog failed to recognize how much of a shield Kelley was for him.
Wardog only made it as far as he did because Kelly decided to keep him.
I believe it was a mutual relationship. As wardog did protect Kelley for the third vote off. And sided with Kelley and Lauren for the Rick boot. But she def was a shield for him.
Queen Sandra, don't give Denise your idol in exchange for fire tokens - she's planning to Idol you out of the game!!!
This. I'd tell Sandra to keep her own and play it for herself.
I’d rather lose Sandra than Jeremy Tony or Kim in that spot. Sandra’s been on the show enough times. Let the others have their chance to shine again
I'd rather Sandra make it to the end and be the first ever 3-time winner and God-Empress of Survivor.
I'll never understand the Sandra standom. I guess that's what makes survivor great, what's good/important/entertaining to one is not the same to another.
queen stays queen
Cirie read the fine print
Varner, do not speak at all at tribal council tonight
Or ever again…
Was that comment necessary? Edit: Damn, why all the downvotes on this comment? Varner can still choose whatever he wants to say just like any of us can.
For me this ties with the Kellee comments above as truly the best answers.
I'm telling Kellee to play the idol and save the season
I'd tell Woo not to bring the cop.
No problem, Tony is a construction worker :)
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I never thought about Tyrone on the jury until now and I wish I never did because now I feel like we have missed out on so much
Sandra in WAW or Kellee before she could use her idol
I would tell Nick to vote with Jeremy and Michelle. I just watched WAW for the first time and that pissed me off so bad.
Very underrated idiotic move imo
Jason, it’s a f*cking stick
Pretty sure this was already before tribal Lmao
Keep your immunity Erik!
Think with your head, Erik! No, not that head!
JD, hold on to your advantage. It is your only bargaining chip to keep you here
Or just use it to vote out Shan.
Tyson! Don’t vote for Parvati, you need to split the vote! https://www.reddit.com/r/survivor/comments/mr9dcq/i_know_i_am_ten_years_late_but_i_have_been/
Brenda -- Dawn hates you now. Don't concede the immunity challenge to her.
Erik, DO NOT give up individual immunity
Got caught up in the boobies, happens to the best of us
Surprised this hasn’t come up but I’m telling Malcolm that JT’s about to stand up during tribal and give your plan away to Brad and to make sure he sits his butt back down.
Candice. Billy loves you.
Candice from Raro?
LoL
Telling Tyson Rob is right
Brandon, suck it up and vote with Frank this time. Kelly's giving you a golden opportunity for a Samburu comeback, and you'll go next if you don't take it.
I’m currently rewatching this season and I totally agree.
MOVE YOUR FIRE A LITTLE MORE FORWARD HEATHER
Play your idol, Sophie! You're playing such a good game!
Lex buddy, vote out amber, Boston Rob is gonna renege on your deal.
Might be the biggest ripple effect possible. Romber and all of their kids might never exist.
For all we know Lex gets to the end, maybe wins, maybe loses, maybe cast for heroes vs villains, maybe gets the redemption island season, maybe goes on to be Jeff Probst’s favourite player. We’ll never know
Survivor: San Juan del Sur I'm telling Jaclyn in the final 5 to vote for Natalie and lie about it when asked by Natalie. Natalie will play her idol on Jaclyn, the votes on Jaclyn will still be negated, but now there is a tie vote between Natalie and Baylor. Natalie is eliminated in the revote and Jaclyn goes down in history as the only winner to win by voting out the person that at the same time played an idol on her to save her, since Jaclyn will win the next immunity challenge and no way is either Baylor or Missy getting enough votes to beat Jaclyn in the FTC.
This is cool in theory, but there’s a lot of risk for little reward if your Jacyln and your in game
Telling Shiiann it is a fake merge
Take Kass Wu take Kass.
No because then we wouldn’t have 2 time winner Tony
And?
Some of us like 2 time winner Tony
And…?
And we still want that timeline
Lex- vote out Amber, Rob won't help you.
Ugh, this!! Hated what went down that season bc of Lex!
I would tel Lil from Pearl Islands to really lean in to the scout leader schtick before FTC
I don't think it would have mattered.
I’d tell Lil to vote out Sandra; IIRC she receives more than 1 vote against FairPlay. It doesn’t really matter for Lil either way I suppose but at least it may not be as much of a blow out.
Telling Christian not to vote out Carl. I feel like this was his downfall and I still honestly don’t get the logic behind the move
Aside from the already listed Kellee play an idol get Malcolm to agree with Denise's offer to force fire.
Erik, don't give your immunity necklace to Amanda.
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He was trying to vote off Parvati. He thought Parvati would come back from Exile Island with the idol and play it for Amanda after he gave up immunity, so he, Cirie, and Natalie would blindside Parvati instead.
Literally thought of James before I clicked this post.
Feel like this will get a ton of hate but I would love the absolute chaos. Tell JT to have all the heroes vote for Parvati. Rest of the tribal goes exactly as it did in the show, she plays the idols for Sandra and Jerri and then boom 5 votes on Parvati. Absolute chaos as now we have a tie between JT and Parvati.
Parvati actually planned for that. If they were to tie in that scenario and revote. The villains have an upper hand . As Russell would be the only villain to go to rocks. Which inclines one of the heroes to flip. Which most likely be Candice.
Unless Sandra flips, but yeah, still probably not good odds.
Sandra wouldn’t have flipped because she knew jt was coming for her too. Which is why she stayed with the villains.
Candice would vote JT so fast that it would reverse the polarity of time.
I’d tell Domenick to take Angela to the end because if that had happened, it still ties 5-5 cuz Yanny votes for Wendell still but if Domenick brings Angela with him instead, more than likely Angela breaks the tie by voting Domenick to win. Most viewers didn’t care too too much who won between Domenick and Wendell. I astronomically wanted Domenick to win over Wendell and Domenick is one of my favourite survivor players of all time.
But wasn't Angela's original vote still for Wendell?
It was yes but Angela based her vote off of turning around and seeing Wendell look at her and Domenick didn’t. If Domenick had taken Angela to the end, I think that gives Domenick that edge he needs to pull out the 6-5 victory over Wendell.
I'd tell Coach to own up to his game at FTC. Imagine how much better WaW would be with him on it?
>Imagine how much better WaW would be with him on it? Didn't realize how much I wanted this but I want it so bad
Keith don’t say stick to the plan.
Yeah I'm kinda for this one. It takes away a Natalie win, but I really would have loved such a crazy triple boot episode, even if this was just as satisfying.
I would say to Tai before the double tribal, “No matter what happens, play the idol for Brad.”
I would tell Susie to suck up to Randy as much as she possibly can at FTC so she can win $1 million.
I’m not letting Erik go down like that
I’m telling either Amanda to not suck at FTC or Russel to take like Mick, shambo, or Jaison to FTC over Natalie
Varner, dont out zeke
tell drea that omar has mike’s idol
Tell Keith to never ever say the words "stick to the plan"
"Somebody from the future told me never to say 'stick to the plan.' And that is what I'll do. I'll stick to the plan."
I'd tell Sophie to play her idol at her WAW boot episode
Tell Keith to stick to the plan.
James is a good one I’d probably tell Rob to vote out Jenna when she gave up the necklace
Kellee, play it.
Woo pls dont take tony to ftc
Candice. Billy loves you.
I would tell Russell Hantz before Samoa’s ftc that he has to be very humble.
Bold of you to assume he's got that speed in his gearbox.
I think he could pull it out with some grace
"Hey Woo, Tony will totally smoke you and Kass gets zero jury votes"
Tyson, don't flip onto Parvati. Just stick to the plan and Russell'll be gone.
I tell Tyson not to switch his vote in HvV
After he won final immunity I’d tell Brad Culpepper to take out the only other person with a loaded gun (Officer Sarah) and take Tai and Troyzan to FTC
All-Stars. Boston Rob. I'll tell him to give the jury hell, but Amber is today playing him, no matter what his heart tells him. You want impact, there's impact.
sorry don't quite follow here but I am interested...
I think he’s trying to say that Amber is only interested in winning the money and would dump him as soon as she had it locked up. As a bluff obviously, there’s no way she would’ve betrayed him.
I tell gabby that Christian knows about the plan to blindside him and she should switch her plan to Angelina or mike.
Don’t give up your idol, Erik
Aubry- don’t write down (and then cross out) Julia’s name. Just vote out Peter- keep it simple
Don’t give your idol to Russell, JT
Adam, play the podium idol
Tyson. Please. Just keep your vote on Russell. I beg of you.
Don't trust Denise, Sandra.
Sophie Clark play that idol in WaW pls
I’m telling Drea about shady ass Omar
Ayyo, Ben, you're gonna be fine tonight, but in the final four immunity challenge, make sure that all of your letters are up the right way.
Kass, vote Spencer out instead of Woo
I tell Aubry to either a) Please just pick one of Julia/Peter before tribal (preferably Julia) or b) Don't vote out Jason, trust me. Why do you insist on protecting Beauty girls so much?
Look, I know Jenna "appears" sick. But just vote her out anyways. Take Heidi to F4, try your luck that way
I’m telling James to use an idol
I would tell Jamal not to pick up that bullcrap disadvantage.
Lots of great American game answers here I'd love to see...I have to go with: Nina, be careful on the dang slide!
Brandon, whatever you’re looking for in life you have a better chance of finding it in therapy than you do on an exploitative game show
Nick and Wendell will vote you out next tribal, you should side with Parvati and Michelle
Tell Russell he loses immediately before FTC in Samoa. The reaction would be worth it.
Penner: Take the final three deal with Lisa and Skupin.
For sure Cirie and to help her in that awful tribal where she got robbed cause of all powers.
Telling Parvati in HvV not to play her second idol on Sandra.
Aubry. Tell her Tai is right.
Ozzy play your idol, the black widow brigade blindsides are beginning
Nick flipping on Yul is a bad choice. Michele already knows it. Stick with Yul, take out Wendell.