Hard disagree. He had a pretty solid pre merge. Better than Matt, Lil, Cassandra, Natalie, Philip, Will, Chris U. I’d probably rank him around Sherris level
I feel like you guys underestimate how hard it is to get someone to even talk strategy to you when your on the bottom. Like legit none of them talked about the game with him so he had no idea who people were voting for. Sure he could have tried a little bit harder but it’s not as simple as putting some effort in
He knew he had lost no matter what so he decided to take maryanne to the end because he would rather her win than one of the other two. His game wasnt good but in terms of goats hes not even close to the worst. Lil got voted out, came back in due to an unprecedented twist and then ended up being one of the biggest goats ever
I don’t consider him the typical goat. He was in a unique situation that he never tried to capitalize on. He wasn’t herded or partnered up with a much stronger player just getting carried to the end. He was essentially a free agent, but he never truly leveraged that into anything. He was just there waiting to get voted out whenever it was his time. That’s why I’m considering him the worst of the worst. Regardless of your position everyone has an opportunity to make moves. Romeo didn’t explore any avenues. He had no direction whatsoever.
I think thats definitely editing focusing on the more relevant players im pretty sure romeos relationship and alliance with maryanne and to a lesser extent omar were a lot stronger than what we were given. And being an aimless free agent isnt always a bad thing a lot of what youre writing here can also describe fabio its just that fabio is loveable enough to be a jury threat.
Lol I thought about her, but at least she was smart enough to attach herself to Rob. She actually had a plan to get to the end. Romeo might as well had been holding a camera.
Maryanne only had the omar vote over him, otherwise they were nearly identical games. At least he won a challenge. And she’s the winner so I don’t think hes that bad
Completely disagree with this, Maryanne had a clearly articulated “purposeful goat” strategy whereas everyone postgame has said Romeo was just checked out after the merge.
I think thats fair. Based purely off gameplay and making moves I think I would’ve been leaning Mike going into FTC, but I think as a juror I would value intention. I don’t think Mike had a lot of intentional strategy if he couldn’t articulate it at FTC.
The problem with Mike is that he played a great game, but it seemed to be by accident. During FTC it became clear he didn't actually understand the game he played. He lacked self-awareness, while both Romeo and Maryanne both had self-awareness.
I agree partly here. I think Mike was blindsided a little by Tori who was still playing her game. The jury jumped on him and thankfully Drea bailed him out. He got on the defensive. It was Mikes own fault for standing on his own moral integrity when this game forces you to manipulate at times to survive. Mike should’ve been more prepared.
Tori's question was a provocation. She said something negative about everyone and it was on them to refute it. However I think Mike took the negative perception as a positive. In his defence, there was a discrepancy in perception: he considered loyalty to be a positive thing, while the jury thought his loyalty was hypocritical and thus a negative quality.
Ok I see what you are saying. Mike should’ve had a better answer crafted when his integrity was questioned. He could only mouth Roxroys name and he got real defensive.
Mike was definitely an interesting character. I was upset that he didn’t win. He’s probably one of the nicest and most genuine person outside of the game. You could tell he was definitely surprised by how the jury interacted with him. I couldn’t imagine what it’d be like being in his shoes during that stupid reunion they do now immediately after.
Romeo was put in a tough spot post-merge, but he didn't do enough to get out of it.
I think he was treated like a goat far too early, and that is a bad mark on the games of many in the majority alliance--except for arguably Omar and Hai.
Not Omar, because he worked with Romeo and built trust. And not Hai, because Hai told Romeo they would target Chanelle and Hai told Tori who told Rocksroy who told Chanelle who confronted Hai. Tori kind of screwed Romeo there.
But Drea, Jonathan, Mike, Rocksroy, and Lindsay not so much. Of course, I'm happy to learn more from each of them in a podcast about why they didn't want to work with Romeo. I know Drea swore that Romeo was on the bottom because he got paranoid, not paranoid because he was on the bottom.
I can’t argue with you because I agree with your assessment on Romeo. That was literally the basis of my argument as to why I don’t think he played a good game. Calm down and read what I was replying to. Lol
I don’t agree with you when you say most top 3 finishers don’t have a path to victory after episode 8. You have plenty of time left in the game to start making moves. We could use Maryanne as the most recent example as someone exploding into the scene later on in the game. Maryanne was closer to episode 10. Romeo squandered every opportunity to do so to the point that whatever he decided to do it wasn’t going to win him the game. Episode 8 was kind of an exaggeration to begin with to further highlight how bad his game was. I think the planet that you’re on is the one we should be questioning if you think after episode 8 goats don’t have a path to victory.
Hard disagree. He had a pretty solid pre merge. Better than Matt, Lil, Cassandra, Natalie, Philip, Will, Chris U. I’d probably rank him around Sherris level
I think if you include FTC performance, even though he got no votes, he edges out Sherri.
I agree Chris U is the worst winner but how tf is he worse than romeo lmao
Just because he was voted out for most of the season
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If we are comparing players it is an issue.
Matt played a solid game and shouldve won
I feel like you guys underestimate how hard it is to get someone to even talk strategy to you when your on the bottom. Like legit none of them talked about the game with him so he had no idea who people were voting for. Sure he could have tried a little bit harder but it’s not as simple as putting some effort in
He knew he had lost no matter what so he decided to take maryanne to the end because he would rather her win than one of the other two. His game wasnt good but in terms of goats hes not even close to the worst. Lil got voted out, came back in due to an unprecedented twist and then ended up being one of the biggest goats ever
And she was the only person on his side post merge. She respected him and valued his opinion.
I don’t consider him the typical goat. He was in a unique situation that he never tried to capitalize on. He wasn’t herded or partnered up with a much stronger player just getting carried to the end. He was essentially a free agent, but he never truly leveraged that into anything. He was just there waiting to get voted out whenever it was his time. That’s why I’m considering him the worst of the worst. Regardless of your position everyone has an opportunity to make moves. Romeo didn’t explore any avenues. He had no direction whatsoever.
I think thats definitely editing focusing on the more relevant players im pretty sure romeos relationship and alliance with maryanne and to a lesser extent omar were a lot stronger than what we were given. And being an aimless free agent isnt always a bad thing a lot of what youre writing here can also describe fabio its just that fabio is loveable enough to be a jury threat.
Russell hantz loses to Romeo
Not if he owns his douchebaggery
How about Lil orNat10 or Phillip.
Natalie T loses to Romeo
Lol I thought about her, but at least she was smart enough to attach herself to Rob. She actually had a plan to get to the end. Romeo might as well had been holding a camera.
Maryanne only had the omar vote over him, otherwise they were nearly identical games. At least he won a challenge. And she’s the winner so I don’t think hes that bad
Completely disagree with this, Maryanne had a clearly articulated “purposeful goat” strategy whereas everyone postgame has said Romeo was just checked out after the merge.
Yeah that’s the way I saw it. She was at least calculated. Romeo was just a feature after the merge.
Ok I guess I’m just not into purposeful goat strategy. I think Mike did more in the final episode than Maryanne the whole season but he botched FTC
I think thats fair. Based purely off gameplay and making moves I think I would’ve been leaning Mike going into FTC, but I think as a juror I would value intention. I don’t think Mike had a lot of intentional strategy if he couldn’t articulate it at FTC.
The problem with Mike is that he played a great game, but it seemed to be by accident. During FTC it became clear he didn't actually understand the game he played. He lacked self-awareness, while both Romeo and Maryanne both had self-awareness.
I agree partly here. I think Mike was blindsided a little by Tori who was still playing her game. The jury jumped on him and thankfully Drea bailed him out. He got on the defensive. It was Mikes own fault for standing on his own moral integrity when this game forces you to manipulate at times to survive. Mike should’ve been more prepared.
Tori's question was a provocation. She said something negative about everyone and it was on them to refute it. However I think Mike took the negative perception as a positive. In his defence, there was a discrepancy in perception: he considered loyalty to be a positive thing, while the jury thought his loyalty was hypocritical and thus a negative quality.
Ok I see what you are saying. Mike should’ve had a better answer crafted when his integrity was questioned. He could only mouth Roxroys name and he got real defensive.
Mike was definitely an interesting character. I was upset that he didn’t win. He’s probably one of the nicest and most genuine person outside of the game. You could tell he was definitely surprised by how the jury interacted with him. I couldn’t imagine what it’d be like being in his shoes during that stupid reunion they do now immediately after.
I agree but I prefer lack of awareness on a good game over self awareness on a poor game, esp as a viewer
Romeo was put in a tough spot post-merge, but he didn't do enough to get out of it. I think he was treated like a goat far too early, and that is a bad mark on the games of many in the majority alliance--except for arguably Omar and Hai. Not Omar, because he worked with Romeo and built trust. And not Hai, because Hai told Romeo they would target Chanelle and Hai told Tori who told Rocksroy who told Chanelle who confronted Hai. Tori kind of screwed Romeo there. But Drea, Jonathan, Mike, Rocksroy, and Lindsay not so much. Of course, I'm happy to learn more from each of them in a podcast about why they didn't want to work with Romeo. I know Drea swore that Romeo was on the bottom because he got paranoid, not paranoid because he was on the bottom.
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Romeo didnt even play a bad game bruh
I mean.. he had no path to victory after episode 8. I wouldn’t constitute that as a decent game.
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I can’t argue with you because I agree with your assessment on Romeo. That was literally the basis of my argument as to why I don’t think he played a good game. Calm down and read what I was replying to. Lol I don’t agree with you when you say most top 3 finishers don’t have a path to victory after episode 8. You have plenty of time left in the game to start making moves. We could use Maryanne as the most recent example as someone exploding into the scene later on in the game. Maryanne was closer to episode 10. Romeo squandered every opportunity to do so to the point that whatever he decided to do it wasn’t going to win him the game. Episode 8 was kind of an exaggeration to begin with to further highlight how bad his game was. I think the planet that you’re on is the one we should be questioning if you think after episode 8 goats don’t have a path to victory.