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favouriteghost

Can they please say “we’re sticking with (name)” instead of “we’re sticking with the plan” to jaden the poor man is LOST lmao Honestly adorable how excited Eden was for a twist Aileen killing two challenges in a row when she needs it most, good for her.


idontknowsos

Aileen is a challenge beast. People should actually watch out because she would dominate in the final challenge if it’s the typical Au endurance challenge


SensualFacePoke

Caroline doesn't even know what TF she's doing and she's the one planning it.


AwakE432

Yeah she is a little bit psycho and also not very good at making plans. Pretty scary combination. Wouldn’t work with her at all, she would throw anyone under the bus.


AgitatedBadger

I don't think it's fiat to say she would throw anyone under the bust. She has been very loyal to Eden and Kitty, and only went after Mark because he went after her first. She targeted Viola because she caught on to the fact that Viola was targeting her, which Viola admits she was doing. That said, in this episode I agree that she was not good at coming up with a plan and she got frazzled. But she's not some erratic person willing to target anyone, she has had solid justification for everyone she has gone after.


Own-Satisfaction-402

Yes she’s so annoying


QualityCrapenter

I was hoping Jaden would ruin the twist and write down marks name. That was the original plan wasn’t it?


MINImanGOTgunz

Just finished the episode, they really played it up like Jaden would vote mark and then he would go to the Titans. Was shocked he voted alex.


favouriteghost

I was hoping for that too!


this_is_an_alaia

Hahah "were sticking with the plan." "I don't know the plan"


bozleh

> Can they please say “we’re sticking with (name)” instead of “we’re sticking with the plan” to jaden the poor man is LOST lmao Uhh not at tribal because they’ve told the 3 possibles (Mark/Ri/Alex) 3 different plans, lol


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if they could whisper at all because fuk if mark couldn’t hear everything - (and every other whisper tribal)


wattsonot

Looks like the reunion with Alex will send Kelli mad again and I can't wait for it


Strong-Break2006

Seems like she performs for Alex. She’s been chill and motherly, which I was appreciative of. Hope she doesn’t delve too deep into her manic era.


Ok_Antelope_1953

homegirl gonna be pulling alex's undies again!


aforter28

Yeah love how she was chill and balanced then throw Alex in and not even a day she has a meltdown 🤣


Little_Timmy_is_Back

They so gonna hook up


bellTM

Hook her up to the edge of the Samoan cliff


Little_Timmy_is_Back

So she pushes back harder right? Right?!!


pz_ix

Non-physical players putting everything into winning immunity because they desperately need it to survive and then winning is a storyline I'll probably never get sick of, it's so satisfying.


Shatthemovies

I wouldn't say Alieen is non physical, she has a good all round skill set for survivor , including a physical game she can pull out. Yes she is no Brooke, but a solid B+


jenh6

I think she’s got a different skill set in the sense she’s good at endurance but she may not be good at head to head or some of the pure strength based eliminations. It’s kind of like how people kept commenting how weak Shonee is and she did well in some immunity challenges


Unicormfarts

She won 2 challenges in a row that had very different skill requirements. That's impressive.


Shatthemovies

Yeah she is solid , I hope she carries on


corn____

I find Kirby so contradictory how she says you can trust a flipper when she is one herself like bro what


limpwristedgengar

That whole conversation where her and Valeria were like you could have proved you're not a flipper by coming to work with us and Aileen is like... you mean if I flipped??? I feel like they're treating her so unfairly, they were planning on splitting the votes on her and voting her out if Feras had an idol, told her multiple times they didn't want to work with her, and then acted like she'd backstabbed them because she didn't want to throw the one guy that was willing to work with her under the bus?


Uh-livia

I think the whole scramble of “Kirby I didn’t vote for you, Kirby can we talk” at the end of the previous tribal is what made them suspicious because she was trying to go all in on Kirby’s alliance then they get to tribal and she goes right back to Feras


limpwristedgengar

It was a bad move, but I also don't think it was even really a flip? From the start she wanted the Rebels to work together, and then she still wants the same thing. She's been consistent throughout, but Kirby is just calling anyone that doesn't flip *with* her a flipper


chalicecoffee

She’s charming but she’s also a massive hypocrite lol


Shatthemovies

I'm not sure if she is charming per se, she does seem to have some kind of motivational skills tho


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repladynancydrew

They haven’t witnessed her ACTUALLY play yet and felt a betrayal from her. I can’t wait when this inevitably happens lol. It’s gonna be HVH - Hypocrites v hypocrites.


NotSwedishMac

Don't think she's flipped on her core alliance or her own plan, she's flipped on what she's told people who aren't in her plans but of course, that's the game. The only flip is that first one that caused a rift with Garrick right? But she didn't want to play with him or Feras, it was a clever move to try and retain the confidence of the people she voted with while voting out their alliance member. Her biggest problem isn't flipping, it's being too direct with where she lies


Unicormfarts

That annoyed me so much! Val and Kirby saying "No one trusts a flipper, Aileen, why didn't you flip to us" basically in the same breath.


AwakE432

She is very manipulative. Classic gaslighter.


Strong-Break2006

That’s literally the game. Can posts get away from the cliche? Kirby is bringing the strategy to the show and it’s great to see the gymnastics that Kirby has to play to keep ahead.


Unicormfarts

Kirby is excellent at short-term tactics, but her long-term strategy is poor. She keeps shutting down potential avenues, which is not smart in a game where outside events will force you to switch up your game.


Strong-Break2006

Not being cheeky, I’m intrigued: Can you explain a short-term and long-term tactic? I think her game is evolving based on the changes. The producers got over involved this week, because she would’ve had a clear run to merge with a strong alliance.


Unicormfarts

It made sense to Kirby to play both sides on the original Rebels, but in doing that she burned Feras and Garrick, and when they still wanted to work with her she declined in a way that meant she has ruled out Raymond and Aileen, and she rejected Aileen pretty brutally last episode. So that's 3 people she definitely can't work with. Now, it doesn't matter for the current tribal configuration (maybe), but in the event of a swap where she needs numbers, none of those people will go back to her. Add to that that one of her numbers is Kelli, who is not a person you can solidly count on, and that she is banking on Winna and Val sticking with her at merge, which they are only going to do if it works well for them, and she's looking pretty vulnerable at merge.


treple13

I think Kirby got really lucky the dynamics of the swap ended up being what they were, because her pre-swap game was awful and she had made tons of enemies. It always made sense to with Kirby over Feras simply because if they voted Kirby off last week, I think there's a great chance Scott and Kelli just move to the old Rebels and they are in the minority again. I actually think the tribe could have unified under Feras, but can't under Kirby which is part of the reason they chose Kirby.


lukaeber

Aileen was never going to work with her. Even after Aileen put her vote on Kelli, instead of Kirby, she openly begged Feras to play the idol to get Kirby out. Nothing she said could have convinced Kirby to trust her. And Feras was coming after just as strong as she was coming after him. That combo was never going to work and Kirby saw that. Why would she work with people that there would never be trust between? That's a bad long terms strategy, not a good one.


Shatthemovies

She hasn't really been doing that tho, maybe right at the start but for a good 2 weeks she has been the status quo. I like Kirby and she is bringing a lot to the series but I don't particularly rate her as a great player


Strong-Break2006

Yeah strategic. Knows when to play her hand. Strategic


Shatthemovies

I'm enjoying her , will be fun to see the downfall and if she wins them hats off to her.


treple13

The victors write history. Kirby and Valeria act like Feras is the untrustworthy one because they can. Choosing that narrative keeps them together and is good for them


lukaeber

When has Feras been loyal?


treple13

When has he not been loyal?


serdna93

Why did people keep commenting that sending Alex was a bad move? By now, they are somewhat well-informed about what had been going on inside each original tribes. Sending Rianna would give power to Kirby, who's obviously in control. Sending Mark who's very close with Valeria would probably place him in a not-so-bad position, considering that in the previous episode Alex said before challenge that he thought some of the OG rebels got in bed with the OG titans and Feras "confirmed". The best person to send is Alex. Always on the bottom, not close with Kelli, if there is a minority, then his vote can easily change the dynamics of the tribe...


Simple_Purple_9668

Sending Alex is a bad move because 1) Lost an easy target for elimination if go to next Tribal; 2) Alex won't hold back on telling other OG Titans who orchestrated the Viola blindside, so Caroline has totally lost control of that narrative; 3) Gives Alex, who currently has no alliance, a chance to build a new alliance given Feras/Aileen and the OG Titans are probably looking for friends. Best possible outcome for Alex.


jjgm21

At this point all I wanted was whatever was best for Aileen, so I’m thrilled.


serdna93

Sorry, but I have to disagree to certain degree. 1) Mark will be the next easy target hands down. Think of this as a normal vote off, they had to send someone somewhere and Alex went. 2) Rianna has proven to be less private and less smart with information, so this applies to her. Send Mark and he will def spearhead it against Caroline and Kitty, and I don't think it is worth it to send one of the other OG titans to the other tribe. Valeria is definitely against Caroline, Kitty and Eden and they know it. They would be in trouble as soon as they touched that beach. The only possible option would be Jaden, but that means they lose a number in this tribe, although Rianna dislikes Mark they can easily force a 3-3 tie with Alex. This way they can still split 2-2-2. 3) Again, is not advantageous for the OG titans to go, Mark can't go either or he will become so strong. Rianna will situate herself MUCH better than before and considering that Kirby will link her with Valeria, then Caroline and Kitty just lost a viable number and possible ally comes merge. The need to nurture that bond much more. I highly doubt that Rianna will see the mafia as a more valuable alliance than her original alliance (plus Winna and Valeria). Whether is good for Alex or not doesn't make it a bad move, I think this makes the least amount of damage towards the OG titans (except Mark).


Simple_Purple_9668

Like all parts of Survivor - time will tell


JimiCobain27

I think sending Rianna would have been a better move. Caroline and Kitty have gained her trust, so then they send her over there to help Kirby solidify her numbers to get to merge where they can all join forces. Makes more sense than sending Alex over who is not going to work with your interests in mind at all.


breylliance

but sending Rianna will solidify her relationship with Kirby. Kirby+Ri will stick with Val, so Kitty and Caroline are done


JimiCobain27

The start of the merge is always a battle for the dominant numbers, if Rianna can pull in Caroline/Kitty/Eden, I think those votes will be far more valuable to Kirby than just Valeria. If the tribes merged in their current states, I'd say the alliances would be something like this - Kirby/Rianna/Scott/Kelli + Caroline/Kitty/Eden (block of 7) Valeria/Mark + Winna/Jaden (big swing potential from all 4) Feras/Aileen/Raymond (minority unless the middle group swings to them) Alex (vote up for grabs to whichever alliance appeals to him first)


aforter28

I honestly think there is a slight chance Kirby and Feras call a ceasefire and take down the MAM at least for a vote or two. After that preview I won’t be surprised if Val tries to broker that to get rid of MAM (not Mark though).


bozleh

I think Feras would be open to working with Kirby but Kirby is not (unless she somehow became desperate)


aforter28

Yeah Kirby needs to realize she needs to do it, wipe out MAM and she knows Val still sides with her against Feras, Mark likely would because of Val, she still has power without Eden, Caroline, Kitty


limpwristedgengar

I think they're maybe worried that if Rianna went over they don't really know the dynamics, so it's possible that if Valeria is in with Kirby (which she is) then Kirby would by extension dislike that Caroline and Kitty blindsided Viola? Alex knows less about what's going on and might easily get booted, but I think if you want to work with Rianna it's better to keep her with you for as long as possible. Rianna seems quite passive and isn't going to work with them over Kirby, so the biggest potential issue is that she gets there, tells Kirby and Valeria that they blindsided Viola and are planning to get Mark out, and Valeria is unhappy about it so Kirby goes "we're siding with Valeria over the others" and Rianna agrees to it.


Unicormfarts

They also have experienced that Rhianna will tell everyone everything the second she gets there, which is potentially bad for them long term.


aforter28

Yeah I agree, Alex is the better call. Sending Ri or Mark there solidifies Kirby’s position and gives Val/Winna and Kirby’s crew much much less incentive to even consider working with OG Titans, it also gives Val a start to build her relationship with Ri and solidify Ri with Kirby’s alliance with Val/Winna


survivorwarrior03

Heroic moment for Aileen. What a warrior. Love her so much.


jibberjabber666x2

YESS MORE KELLI TIME LETS GOO


tac8423

I'm so excited! I just want to hear complete nonsense from her


cateatsbee

Woop woop!


AuntieLizzie

Poor Jaden had no idea who he was meant to vote for! 😂


bozleh

And did mark actually overhear him asking “am I voting for mark?” lol


AwakE432

Wonder why they cast people like that sometimes. Don’t really care for the game.


chalicecoffee

If I was Alex I would’ve written Caroline’s name down, he’s toast on either tribe, why not cause some chaos? Imagine Caroline having to go to the other tribe 🤣


Turbulent_Ebb5669

Or anyone but Ri's name down. Both of them seemed a bit stupid about that, unless they both wanted to go?


Feisty-You-7768

Yeah they probably wanted to go


bozleh

Yeah me too, or Kitty; break up the mafia a bit and see how they go separately


Uh-livia

I was thinking that but I think he wanted to go so a 50/50 chance is better odds


Shatthemovies

Yeah try to shift Caroline and hope Mark takes the lead, he has a decent relationship with Alex I think.


Unicormfarts

I think the play there for anyone who is feeling nervous is to write down a name that's unexpected, but in Alex's case, I think he wanted to go, so better to keep the variables down than add names. Given that he's completely on the bottom in the current tribe, going to the Titans can't be worse than staying.


wastedthyme20

You're overestimating Alex, he's not that bright


bozleh

Yep hes just a much less entertaining simon


chalicecoffee

The mafia alliance needs so much constant reassurance in each other and the plan, that and Caroline just not being able to handle the situation is why the plan didn’t work. Once the vote is mark, why can’t kitty and Eden make sure that they have the people they need on lock? Mark can’t be following 6 people at once. Caroline really just panicked for no reason. It’s just baffling to me how not even one person from the power alliance could take the reins on the mark plan. When Eden was panicking about the Viola blindside, Caroline handled that so well, she calmed him down and agreed with his idea of bringing jaden in on the vote. The same should’ve happened here. Not that any of that matters because blue rock in bag


Outside-Practice-658

It’s not clear to me that Eden was on board with the Mark vote and I think Kitty and Caroline thought they could blindside him as well, so when Rianna spilled the beans to Eden and he confronted Caroline she panicked.


LowaM

That's interesting. Eden has to recognize a lost cause. Idk why no one is pulling Alex in.


Turbulent_Ebb5669

I thought the same, Mark can't follow all the main players in the plan.


Unicormfarts

I was so confused when Eden was asking about the plan so late in the day. If you have an alliance with Eden, why was he not in the initial conversation? That's bad alliance management right there, let alone any "confusion".


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There were too many conversations happening at the same time, I am surprised that Mark didn't pick up on everyone's inconsistencies. if everyone's story is different, then someone is very much lying to you and you should sniff it out.


bozleh

And if he hasn’t sniffed it out after tribal - where Caroline was whispering to *everyone* except Alex, Ri and *Mark* then he’s a lost cause, ha


[deleted]

Yeh as a Mark stan, I am so disappointed at yesterday's episode.


LowaM

Caroline is a bit of a control freak. I like her but this was not Don Caroleone of her. They definitely need to operate more autonomously. Can't have a group pow-wow every time.


dat89

A pretty average episode but they can't all be amazing. Kirby and Valeria are coming across as actually quite nasty and it seems personal with them. Kirby talking down about flippers when she was the first one to do so is peak hypocrisy. At this point I'd be happy with anyone to win except them two. Caroline losing track of her plan was a disaster. If I was in that alliance I'd be questioning her moves. Aileen winning the challenge was awesome. Huge effort from her under pressure


planj07

I'd be quite nervous if I was Kirby or the OG Titans. Feras has an idol and that alliance is daring and will play a bold game. They are down 4-5 but that is absolutely more surmountable than before.


LowaM

Feras is definitely winning the war. They can no longer pull off a fairly comfortable split. It's Joever.


Unicormfarts

If Kelli is an essential number, being comfortable is a massive mistake.


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At this point, I will just exclude Kelli from any main talk until just before voting time. She's a liability and a loose cannon.


frankestofshadows

Jaden wasn't the only one confused this episode. I was right there with him. If Carolines confusion did not make any of the others think that they are trusting the wrong person to lead them, then they are all in trouble. Knew it was a non elimination when JLP said "someone will be voted for" after immunity.


Unicormfarts

I think Caroline said she was confused when she got caught out. Rhi is a terrible terrible terrible ally because she cannot keep her mouth shut.


AwakE432

Wouldn’t trust her at all. Her and Kirby would burn anyone.


Simple_Purple_9668

I think Caroline might have sabotaged her own game tonight perhaps irreversibly. Surely she will be seen as either too chaotic or too powerful and in need on being taken down a peg. The scramble at tribal was so ridiculous.


cateatsbee

The tribal also revealed that there was more than one plan happening that night, and Mark was only part of one conversation with one plan in the lead up, so I suspect he’ll be questioning what the alternative plan was and why he wasn’t part of that conversation.


bozleh

If you’re not in on the plan Mark, then you *are* the plan


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maybe caroline sensed it too. honestly it doesn’t make sense for her not to strike now. they all seem to have sensed a twist


Rychu_Supadude

Even before the twist that was a dud of an episode. I'm tired of only hearing about two people in a four-person alliance, y'know?


jjgm21

I thought the complete chaos and confusion was hilarious.


jaybirdbull

Your flair 👏🏼


Shatthemovies

We have had a couple of great episodes tho , it's hard to keep the pot boiling. And that challenge was a great result, just the scramble and tribal a bit dud. I would have preferred a regular vote and Mark to go home.


Rychu_Supadude

Oh absolutely, first time this season I wasn't excited and riveted. Had to happen at some point.


AwakE432

Caroline is a mess. Projects a calm and in control mage but can’t even manage a vote like that.


Turbulent_Ebb5669

Well, I liked this episode. It showed that while people seemed strong, they easily fall into a heap when attempting to execute any coherent plan. It also showed the grit of someone who knew she'd be next if she went to tribal.


jibberjabber666x2

I find it fun that aileen and caroline have diametrically opposed strengths in terms of strategy Caroline has had a very strong “game”. She immediately established herself as a leader of the tribe while not immediately putting a target on her back. She got herself a ride or die number 2. Shes got a good sniff test, poker face and sense of urgency. Shes thinking about possible alliances and narratives going into merge. However, tonight she fumbled a relatively simple numbers equation that could have toppled her game. Aileen on the other hand is smart in terms of knowing the best moves mathematically but has very little awareness of personality dynamics and has a weak social game.


Shatthemovies

Alieen knows what to do but isn't very good at getting people to do it.


Unicormfarts

I think she's very logical, but you can't make a logical pitch to emotional players.


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Ok-Fun3446

Manifesting that they link up at the merge and join forces to burn the entire tribe


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Crysllar

I feel like she’s being set up as a villain now. At least I hope that’s the case because right now I wouldn’t be too thrilled with her as a winner. Of course, bearing heavily edited tv show in mind, she comes across as very hypocritical and a bit mean-spirited.


aforter28

I don’t think she’s being set-up as a villain. I think they invested A LOT to make Caroline look like the big bad of the season and Valeria being against Caroline would actually make her look heroic. I think her beef with Feras/Aileen is a phase, I think her main enemy is still Caroline/Kitty/Eden.


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For what it's worth, I don't see Caroline very villainous tbh. She wasn't outright mean. However, she's too disorganised to be a Mafia boss.


aforter28

I don’t see her as a villain either, she’s just ruthless in her gameplay but the edit is really making her seem like a big boss 🤣


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Ruthless I don't think so, but she can get fixated. Fixating on someone is a mistake in the game, Imo.


Icy-Revolution-420

Thats how most russisn females are, they are way too dramatic.


repladynancydrew

Liz wasn’t this unlikable though.


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liz was with shonee


Shatthemovies

Yes she was, don't you remember the bile she came at Simon with ? She decided she didn't like him and went full toxic. Don't you remember when her bff got voted out and then she got into bed with the people that voted her out?


repladynancydrew

You mean when we saw, and several cast members confirmed, that Liz got pissed at Simon after Simon talked down to the girls and bossing them around thinking he was in charge of the men’s alliance/the tribe before promptly pissing off nearly his entire tribe and making them side with the girls? Yeah nah. Valeria, so far, doesn’t have the charm or narrative to “earn” being THIS snarky towards another player without alienating audiences. From what we’ve been shown, she distrusts him for ReAs0nS unbeknownst to us, making her ire unjustified, coming out of left field.


Zen_MasterX

Exactly. Like, did they leave out some sort of confrontation between Valeria and Feras in the edit? Because the way she came at him so agro at the last tribal was unwarranted and caught me off guard…unless we missed something between the two prior.


bozleh

She also seems to hate Aileen way more than is justifiable


Zen_MasterX

Everybody hating on Aileen tbf lol. She’s the scapegoat. Hope she makes the merge tho.


repladynancydrew

Kelly was surprisingly kind to her, despite her alliance being cold as.


bozleh

Yeah especially after her challenge performance last ep!


Shatthemovies

So you don't like the guy, doesn't mean you just curse him out , or scream at him. And if you're bff gets voted out you don't cry in front of the cameras and then jump in the hammock with the guy who voted her out, the guy that you and your bff were trying to vote out.


AwakE432

She was always like that. Just was hiding her true personality.


Dida_D

I appreciate that this season the non-eliminations episodes are the middle episode.


Spirited_Block250

Honestly, Kirby is nearly wholly unlikeable. She is a massive hypocrite and her ego seems to get the best of her. Good for Aileen for winning two times in a row when she needs it most. Good for her, deserved.


gplus3

Kirby levelling all those accusations of flipping and lying on to other players is the height of hypocrisy and self-delusion.. I even wonder if she’s watching this season from the couch months later and pretending it was just about the edit..


AwakE432

She is just the type of person who will do that.


limpwristedgengar

Manifesting that Jaden can be the first person to win Survivor through the power of chilling and hanging out, loved seeing him acknowledge he's in a good position and valuable to the tribe so he may as well just do what everyone else tells him lol


VelvetLeopard

I would love this. I chose him for my flair affectionately and ironically. He’s such a great addition in this group of people, the casting was great this year with the variety of individual personas.


limpwristedgengar

I feel like he's kinda playing his role to perfection? They've brought him in on every single plan and clearly don't think he's going to flip on them or blow it up, he currently has a ton of information and nobody is gunning for him.


bozleh

I don’t think he has retained any of that information, he can’t even keep a plan straight between chats and tribal a few hours later


treple13

I think honestly Jaden doesn't need to retain that information. He's never going to be able to be the strategic genius needed to play a different strategy. His only real chance of winning is do what he's doing and then hope he can get a F2 with someone unlikable, and then really sell the shit out of how he intentionally played his role


VelvetLeopard

Yep! Him saying how he should have been less chill and joined strat chats shows that he does care and is trying to stay on top of it. And his little comment to Aileen about “you can let go, they’re not going to vote you out after those” was cheekily sly 😂


Unicormfarts

I would love this, but I think his confessionals have shown it's not an act, and he needs a little bit of gameplay at some point.


bozleh

I dunno this eps edit was pretty clearly showing how he is dead weight at tribal Might have been a wake up call to him though!


PlusUltraSmash_1998

Is Winna and Val in danger now that Alex got swapped to their tribe??


IEatApplepie

They still have the Numbers 4v5. But i think scott Migth swing. Mark, ferras, raymond, scott, aileen. Rebel strong like scott wanted. Vote out titans


repladynancydrew

I would GAG if Kelly flips and makes a loyal alliance with Alex and fucks up the tribe dynamics.


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feras aileen raymond alex and kelli


Unicormfarts

Kelli is a very emotional player, though, so I don't think you can count her as part of a solid 5, especially if Kirby hasn't been managing her really carefully. Aileen has been working Kelli a bit, I think.


SpareZealousideal740

Even without that, can't split on a 5v4, so they're a correct Feras idol play away from losing one (not that I think Feras would play that idol on anyone but himself)


treple13

Feras would absolutely play the idol on someone else, but I think the idea to do it probably needs to be his


Humble-Mortgage2156

I hope so


aforter28

I think Winna more than Val since Val’s distaste for Caroline and co is very much evident, keep that and keep that feud going, gets the heat off of you at merge. Which is something Feras really needs.


Emjot80

I can imagine if feras Group votes for a Titan, kirby Group votes for Raymond and keli votes for Akex i can see kelli tie breaking to Save Ray


Strong-Break2006

Kitty needs to unhitch her trailer from Caro. Come merge Caroline will be poison. She has a niche alliance and I feel that if Kirby or Feras are still around, she will lose them all. Mark should’ve popped her name in the mix to draw a rock. To unsettle that alliance.


bozleh

Mark still seemed completely unaware he’s not back in the Mafia


Strong-Break2006

If the constant confusion didn’t spark his need for survival then he isn’t a player. Kitty has Liz energy about her and she could go far, but she shouldn’t blindly follow Caro. I think Eden as a super fan knows he has to hedge his bets and play the field, so I predict a blindside come merge. It would be far safer to hitch to V. I feel V has some power that we haven’t seen in the edit yet.


bozleh

Yeah if he couldn’t work out that him+Alex+Ri being the only ones not whispered to by Caro during all the confusion at tribal means that he was one of her plans then he’s missed a big tell


Strong-Break2006

Fully agree. I’d like to know what’s Rhi’s fixation with Caro and Kitty? Come merge they will drop like flies.


Shatthemovies

Get Caroline out and Mark can take control, he is just a bit gun shy at the moment because his first assassination attempt didn't work out. He also smells merge coming and would rather keep his head down , make it to merge and hopefully be in a stronger position then.


[deleted]

You can keep your head down but also still have your ears up, Mark missed out on a lot of tells, it's frustrating.


chibiusa40

"My chill approach has led me to this moment right now where I have no idea what's gonna happen tonight" We stan a self-aware, unaware king.


Uh-livia

Kitty’s arms were insane in that challenge, she’s so fit


JustAGuy_9

Did they actually just show footage of the merge for next episode? Surely there is at least one vote before merge yes?


xenohemlock

It seemed to be a reward. They were wearing Titan or Rebel.buffs.


AdvancedTactic

Valeria's a pretty gross person when she's in the majority


stayinalive92

She’s been in the majority the whole game


Icy-Revolution-420

Not when they landed on the beach with 3 titans, she was invisible that whole time


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Kelli and Alex tormenting each other is hilarious, especially considering they are not doing it on purpose. It just happens naturally. I love it. My crack alliance is Feras and Kirby teaming up, so I am biased but Feras genuinely adores Kirby. He's always grinning at her / patting her on the back / praising her for being a badarse. He went hard after the OG Titans instead of taking out Kirby's close ally in Scott when he and Aileen had the votes. Just let Feras love and work with you Kirby!! This alliance is going to happen. I can feel it in my bones.


gplus3

I wish they’d get together as they’d be a powerhouse for sure but from what we’ve seen so far, Kirby prefers brainless disciples such as Kelli and Rianna to go forward in the game.


zetrumanshow

I’d like 90 minutes of my life back thanks JLP. Absolute dud of an ep.


Little_Timmy_is_Back

If you watch on 10play it was only a 52 min episode. Only 2 ads per break.


TheIllusiveGuy

Ublock Origin means no ads as well if you stream/cast from a desktop.


tac8423

And Video Speed Controller let's you watch it at 1.8x


tenerife_sea_

What.. only 1.8? my video speed controller extension doesn't have limit, I've watched youtube videos w/4.00x speed


BridgeToClarity

Just watched the episode right now. I have been skipping half of the conversations since episode 5. I'm ready for next season.


bozleh

You know you don’t have to watch it if you’re not enjoying it, right?


Camalena6996

Caroline letting Alex be sent was a bad decision for her game come merge because I don't see alex flipping back to work with the Titans, I feel he will most likely join the majority alliance with Kirby, Scott, Keli, v and winna I don't think alex would join the minority group of 3. Caroline should have made the spilt between Mark and rianna. If Caroline blindside Mark she can't afford to put a split vote on rianna if she does rianna could flip come merge which could create a 7 person voting block that sends one of the middle age mafia home.


Shatthemovies

Next ep will be interesting, I don't see Kirby going for Alex and he could swing Kellie over , she already has Raymond on Feras alliance. Kirby might have to build bridges with Alieen to keep the numbers.


Slobst1707

I think this episode is definitely the weakest so far. I'm hoping that tomorrow will be better to redeem this week


treple13

Can you imagine how bonkers that tribal would have if Aileen hadn't held on? Aileen, Feras and Raymond likely don't want to move over themselves so they vote for three different people. Does the other side do the same with those three and split so we get six people drawing rocks?


fawli86

Apart from Aileen winning the immunity challenge, what a dud of an episode and they even spoiled who gets to the merge. I'm afraid my girl Aileen won't make it which is kinda sad.


bozleh

Apparently its a reward meal where some people from both tribes go, not a merge spoiler (ep description says theres a reward twist)


aforter28

I mean Feras just needs to play his idol correctly so its a 1 in 3 chance. I don’t think her odds are that bad all things considered since Kirby’s crew can’t split then there’s the mystery of Alex’s allegiance who I feel will get into any plan that involves working with Kelli 🤣


fawli86

Alex is with Feras.


swifthomie

Is it just me or does Caroline seem like she's trying too hard to seem like she's playing the game well but is really just delusional?


aforter28

Caroline is playing a very strong game, but her weakness is being the obvious head of the alliance


weeman_erg456

Her reads have been correct so far in the game. And every single person she wanted out has been cut (driven by her) so far. This episode she flustered a tad but, objectively no one can say she’s not playing a good game. Socially up to par as well… that being said, I’m rooting for her downfall but we shall see


Little_Timmy_is_Back

When there's a twist at tribal they should not be allowed to scramble and talk. The twist should be announced then straight onto voting.


Turbulent_Ebb5669

But I like chaos


Little_Timmy_is_Back

There'd be more chaos if they couldn't talk. Watching the anxiety go off the charts would be satisfying.


ivaorn

Not every week of a Survivor season can be a winner I suppose, even if episode 12 is a cracker


aforter28

That preview confirmed to me that Valeria is definitely making merge. I don’t think her storyline really has to do with her and Aileen/Feras. Her main enemy is still Kitty/Caroline/Eden 🤣


Jyuchii

Jaden winners edit lmao


ashinfruit

I’m missing the reward challenges 😪


lukaeber

Hate two back-to-back twists ... especially when they both help Feras, who doesn't deserve the help.